[01:12] anyone awake :) [01:13] looking for anyone here who has successfully done a simple video montage by putting clips of video to music [01:13] for example [01:13] cuz that's what i am trying to do, but kino doesn't seem to have any features for doing this [01:14] try openshot or pitivi [01:15] ok yeah pitivi has the audio+video sequencing [01:15] now the tricky part :) [01:15] how can i crop [01:16] well i dont know [01:16] e.g. have 4 different vid clips playing in e.g. four "boxes" [01:16] but i should be easy [01:17] when i did video plus audio i used xjadeo only for the video and edited the audio on ardour [01:17] right well i already recorded a song in ardour [01:17] so that's done, that was a fairly decent experience, ardour is nice [01:18] will be nicer when it has midi, but fundamentally i don't want to be making midi music anyway [01:18] well import the audio to pitivi [01:18] i guess maybe i need openshot now, don't think pitivi will crop [01:18] and the video [01:18] yeah i already did that [01:18] that'll be fine, but now i need to crop/collage/montage [01:18] i think i used openshot [01:18] e.g. multiple clips in the same vid [01:18] k i'll try openshot next [01:18] yeap, maybe openshot suit best [01:19] sleep time now [01:19] cya and good luck [01:19] comes with 10.04 but not 9.10 :( [01:19] well pooh [01:39] abstrakt? === acerimmer_ is now known as acerimmer [05:02] ok so now that i've created my video in openshot [05:02] i wanted to export it as h264 and mp3 [05:02] and, probably, flv [05:03] but if i choose flv then i only see h263 in the other list [05:03] what's up with that? [08:13] hello [08:13] does ubuntustudio have repositories that are more upto date for multimedia applications ? [08:13] or video editing software? [08:26] bawww: Ubuntu Studio uses the same repositories than Ubuntu vanilla, so no external repos with more up-to-date applications, sorry. [13:18] Oh word. [13:18] Anyone know if theres a PC keyboard controllable virtual midi I can use with energyxt? [14:16] anyone know if theres a gnome applet that connects to google bookmarks [15:00] what does the Enable Nice option in Ubuntu Studio Controls mean? [15:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix) [15:02] That explains it better than I could attempt to right now :) [15:07] ok thnks, whats the recommended nice for running music apps [15:07] depends on what else you have running on the machine [15:07] and how much power you really have [15:07] I wouldn't mess with it unless I needed to [15:08] dual core, just wondering since im running a RT kernel and i set jack to RT and i get more xruns than when im using softmode in generic kernel [15:09] Are you seeing high utilization and load? [15:10] no [15:10] I don't think nice will help you, then. [15:10] ok [15:11] However, it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot. [15:11] you may be able to improve overall performance, but I doubt it. [15:11] the guys in #jack may be able to help, too [15:17] yay! [19:40] re [19:41] I had a strange experience the last 2 hours :) [19:41] I had blacklisted snd_hda_indel to have my ews88mt as primary soundcard with no interference [19:42] after reboot, I booted into -rt kernel for testing, I experiened horrable x-lags [19:42] after trying everything with nvidia drivers / compiz / metacity $whatever, I just un-blacklisted snd_hda_intel and [19:42] voila, all is back to normal. [19:42] it seems pulseaudio was hogging the system. [19:43] I suppose it had something to do with the intel card being selected in the pulse audio settings. [19:44] now wanting to switch those setting to the ews88mt I had to realize, that the hardware tab in sound preferences just lists no card at all [19:44] (should be three: onboard intel, ews88mt & bt848 tv card) [19:45] how do i start to debug here? [20:53] argl. this pulse audio will kill me one day .. garl [20:59] it is unbelievable. once pulse has a problem and doesn't start properly, the whole system lags like not see nbefore [20:59] htop shows nothing, but the whole X is lagging like hell [21:11] anyone here familiar with this pulseaudio mess? [21:37] hi, where can i find expander ladspa plugin for ardour which has sidechain option [21:40] i found only one expander - at tap dynamics, but it lacks the sidechain [21:52] hey Reaby [21:52] have you asked in #ardour ? [21:53] also, #opensourcemusicians [21:53] just asked at #ardour [21:53] im sure there is one available [21:53] did you talk to las Reaby ? [22:12] holstein: nope, i got some tips from #ardour [22:13] :) [22:21] ok, so far I got pulse using my 8 channel card as default output. is it possible with pulse to have apps on selected outputs? (like on channel 1&2 and not 3-8? [22:21] (actually pulse puts the mplayer putput to all 8 channels) [22:21] or is that definitive a job for jack? [22:24] JACK artisan [22:25] that should do it [22:25] route whatever you want really [22:27] holstein: ok, so, how do I integrate jack & pulse? (as there seems to be no real option to just uninstall pulse) [22:33] ok, just wile testing, i got for the first time ever multiple pulse outputs into jack and multiple system captures into pulse :) [22:33] looks good! [22:34] artisan: in my lucid set upt [22:34] up* [22:34] and the way it should work [22:34] pulse gets suspended when you start Qjackctl [22:35] if you want to use pulse through jack [22:35] you want... [22:35] funny though, that pulse has 8 sinks and sources and my ews88mt now has 12 captures and 10 playbacks (it is only 8 channels each in hw .. so I thought) [22:35] well [22:36] at least you want to read about [22:36] https://launchpad.net/kxstudio [22:36] yay, another approach :) [22:36] jack-pulse bridge i think? [22:36] i havent tried it yet [22:36] BUT i know it works [22:37] I have tried it a couple of times, but always pulse was on the wrong card, jack coughed somehow and went onto the same card. [22:38] suddenly with all my testing today, the multichannel card got card0 in alsa, and voila [22:38] now pulse-jack even works for me. [22:38] I never really understood why it didn't work :) [22:38] now it does and I won't touch it again, lol [22:38] kxstudio is a fork of ubuntustudio? [22:38] OH [22:38] thats a whole different thing actually [22:39] rly? [22:39] ive never heard about a sucessful 2 card test [22:39] ooops, you now what: [22:39] i got an 8 channel card too [22:39] external has 8, internal has 2 and tv card has 2 .. makes 12 [22:39] but i just use it with JACK sans pulse [22:39] artisan: nice :) [22:40] uh, funny :) [22:40] never knew it works [22:40] kxstudio is pretty sweet [22:40] (have the falk-t-x ppa there, must be jack2 :) [22:40] ckeck it out [22:40] and falktx hangs out in the ubuntu-devel channel and #opensourcmusicians [22:41] why is kxstudio not the same as ubuntustudio (lost track of dev efforts for ubuntustudio) [22:41] good to know! [22:41] kx is just his [22:41] AFAIK [22:41] ic, and he is in ubuntustudio as well? [22:41] falk's personal project [22:41] k [22:41] its lucid based [22:41] BUT [22:41] you can use his repos and cutom packages [22:42] with lucid [22:42] so I do, nice to get the latest development nicely packaged for testing :) [22:43] yup [22:43] i havent done it yet [22:43] BUT lots of folks say its solid [22:43] and the guy is really on the ball it seems [22:44] well, it looks solid .. 12 in 10 out .. o.O [22:44] a thing everybody always said would never work. [22:44] but hey, I expect samplerate problems :) [22:45] and no, there is no output on the onboard card :) [22:45] thats awesome [22:45] you should check out the wiki over there at #opensourcemusicians [22:45] if you feel like sharing that setup [22:46] hm, nah, actually there is *no* sound on the internal [22:46] thats supppose to be the output card? [22:47] nope, supposed output card is the 8 channel. which works [22:47] OH [22:47] i gotcha [22:47] 8 out [22:47] but I was just curious and connected sound to the left over 12 channels [22:47] i got 8 in [22:47] (9-12) [22:48] yeah, and 8 in as well [22:48] ok [22:48] but there is actually 12 in in qjackctl and 10 out, which is funny [22:48] maybe some spidif out it doesnt know about? [22:49] hm, could be [22:51] there are supposed to be some digital ins and outs I seem to have forgotten (and jack never showed them up before as well) [22:51] what unit? [22:51] ews88mt from terratec [22:52] good to know [22:53] i bet you can get a used one now pretty reasonalbe [22:53] whats the latency like? [22:53] decent? [22:56] yeah, now I remember whats the tricky part with that setup .. [22:56] you can't easily restart jack, as pulse freaks out [22:56] with that custom distro [22:57] KXstudio [22:57] jackk is running at login [22:57] yeah, here too, but wanna change frames? reboot .. [22:57] hmm [22:58] I was working with 16ms latency, just wanted to test with 2ms [22:58] not bad [22:59] and now, with a freaking pulse, X isnt responding properly. hehe, i was trying all afternoon finding out why my system lags like hell, until i discovered pulse is the source for that [23:00] holstein: is there only reboot as a way to restart sound services in that kind of setup? [23:00] no [23:00] theres a restart.d or seomthing [23:01] hmm [23:01] i cant remember though [23:01] OH [23:01] i used jack_control -something [23:01] that didnt get pulse though [23:01] ah [23:02] jack_control is a very good hint! thx [23:02] * holstein cant remember.... [23:03] hmm, dbus: jack server could not be started .. [23:03] *sigh* [23:03] hmmmm [23:03] no other errors? [23:03] can you kill it [23:04] and start is with qjackctl in the terminal [23:04] OR look that the 'massages' window [23:04] in Qjack? [23:05] 00:04:49.338 D-BUS: JACK server could not be started. Sorry [23:05] thats all [23:06] hmmm [23:06] sudo killall jackd ? [23:06] maybe something is still hanging on [23:06] OH [23:06] wait [23:06] you changes settings right? [23:07] i bet thats it [23:07] no jackd running, no pulse running. [23:07] new started qjackctl, yields the error above .. [23:08] what changes did you make? [23:08] just swithc from 256 frames/period to 32 [23:08] but, I believe it is a pulse issue [23:08] someone is sitting on alsa [23:08] that must be pulse [23:10] E: module.c: Failed to load module "module-jack-sink" (argument: "channels=8"): initialization failed. [23:10] thats what pulse sez [23:10] because jack isnt running [23:10] jack i cant start, because there is something borked. [23:10] no sound apps running so far [23:11] doesnt seem to want all your 8 channels now [23:11] hmmm [23:13] funny thouhg, starting jackd from cli works. [23:14] and pulse just started itself. [23:14] hm, to much automagic for me :) [23:35] holstein: ever tried different realtime kernels? https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa/ [23:35] so, does one want lowlatency or realtime .. hmmmmm [23:36] i just use the RT one [23:36] ive used other distro's RT kernels [23:38] yey, I 'll try alesio's :) [23:38] artisan: it depends what you want to do with it [23:38] if you run a RT kernel on you laptop you will dry much faster the battery [23:38] usually i want to have a decent low latency for audio. [23:39] and on a lappi suspend would be fantastic. [23:39] but for what? f [23:39] dj mixing [23:39] ok [23:39] so you need RT maybe [23:39] to prevent xruns .. [23:40] why is rt using more battery? [23:40] you dont really need low latency though [23:40] for DJ'ing [23:40] well to prevent XRUNS low dow you latency [23:40] up your latency sorry [23:40] you dont need 8 ms latency for djing [23:41] if you dont need it, i wouldnt push it [23:41] yeah [23:41] 20 ms is ok [23:41] 60+ even [23:41] who cares [23:41] your not needing to sync up with anything [23:41] yeah, you are not worring if a frame drops or not, it doesnt matter for that job [23:42] and also RT kernel uses more power , because it is contantly assigning task and scheduling for audio usage or other usages [23:42] RT is for all the system :D [23:48] well, but to use mixxx properly you need jack, jack without rt usually sucks alot [23:48] artisan: no it doesn [23:48] it works great with the generic kernel in 10.04 [23:48] never experienced jack without rt running without xruns .. [23:48] just tested on my t41p [23:49] i use it with ardour plus firewire sound interface plus Puredta and it works ok :D [23:49] hm [23:49] maybe the cpu with 1.7ghz single core pentium m isn't decent enough anymore for that kind of tasks :) [23:49] the last generic kernel on ubuntu, actually have some rt capabilities, or elese you couldnt use jack :D [23:50] and you configure jack at install time for that :D [23:50] artisan, maybe you need to increase the latency [23:51] rlameiro: hm, cant remember to have jack configured. otoh it was a dist upgrade .. [23:51] either the frame/period or period buffer [23:51] well, it should work [23:52] Cannot lock down memory area (Cannot allocate memory) [23:52] 00:52:27.670 XRUN callback (1). [23:52] alsa_driver_xrun_recovery [23:52] **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 34.126 msecs [23:52] just after starting jack with qjackctl [23:53] hummm [23:53] thats a nasty one too [23:53] 512 frames, 2 periods/buffer [23:53] ack [23:54] well the settings did changed from 9.10 to 10.4 [23:54] the limits.conf is in diferent place for audio [23:54] hm, so do you think a pentium M 1.7ghz should be enough for mixxx/jackd without RT ? [23:54] oh. /etc/security/limits.conf or another one? [23:55] it changed in this release [23:55] let me digg up the help wiki [23:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation [23:55] thre is a note somewhere about it [23:56] etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf [23:56] hm [23:57] maybe it didnt changed it on the dist upgrade [23:57] or you didnt accept the window that usualy appears on install time [23:57] ack, it just took the settings from the former limits.conf [23:59] well put the buffer at 1024 :D [23:59] its my normal usage for playing stuff