/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/26/#kubuntu-devel.txt

JontheEchidnaanybody working on the new rekonq beta?02:35
JontheEchidnawow, there's ktorrent 4.0 too... we're going to be so busy :)02:37
JontheEchidnagotta package libktorrent now, too02:38
shtylmanlaunchpad now support build recipies :)02:42
shtylmanyou can now ask it to build your packages right into a ppa 02:42
shtylmanthe future is now02:42
JontheEchidnahrmhrm02:42
JontheEchidnashtylman: did the Qt import ever work?02:42
shtylmannope02:43
shtylmannot yet02:43
JontheEchidna:(02:43
shtylmanI will poke at it more tomorrow...02:43
shtylmanit may just be too big or something02:43
JontheEchidnaheh, a good way to stress-test the new system, at any rate02:43
shtylmanyep02:43
JontheEchidnapinged any #launchpad guys about it?02:43
shtylmannot yet02:44
shtylmanbut I will02:44
JontheEchidnaexciting times02:44
shtylmanyep02:44
* JontheEchidna uploads rekonq 0.4.9002:44
JontheEchidnarekonq is so lovely and small. Very short build time02:45
shtylmancool02:45
shtylmanopenoffice is not lovely and small02:45
* JontheEchidna starts to giggle uncontrollably02:46
JontheEchidnaStart in 34 seconds (12505) What's this? < -Gotta love the build scores for P3A's02:47
shtylmanheh02:50
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shadeslayerim uploading kdeartwork to the ppa,there was a power outage so couldnt upload earlier :P05:46
shadeslayerhahaha... my build is stuck at "Starting in 4 seconds" :P06:18
shadeslayerlex79: are you around?06:27
shadeslayerok um any other ninja?06:27
shadeslayerok if i uploaded the package to the ninja PPA,do i also have to upload the various changes in debian/ to the bzr branch?06:41
NCommanderRiddell: sorry for the delay, QT4 is now being looked at06:42
shadeslayerok what if i need to add multiple lines of change in bzr log?06:45
shadeslayeroh nvm07:05
shadeslayerRiddell: kdeartwork was uploaded and built,its in the ninja PPA :)07:09
ScottKshadeslayer: It should go in bzr too.07:17
shadeslayerScottK: just the debian/ folder too?07:17
shadeslayer-too07:17
ScottKYes.  Just debian dir.07:17
shadeslayerScottK: ok im making a bzr branch and ill ask for a merge :)07:18
shadeslayerScottK: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeartwork/ubuntu 07:19
* ScottK is about to go pass out for a few hours.07:20
shadeslayer:)07:20
shadeslayerwell the first * is not aligned properly.. apart from that everything seems good :)07:21
jussiMy kubuntu works again! :D08:17
shadeslayerplease review : https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeartwork/ubuntu/+merge/26019  08:51
alleeallee09:31
alplaced 10 kubuntu CDs at the water cooler two hours ago - all gone10:00
shadeslayeral: heh10:03
jussial: nice! how big is your office?10:03
aljussi: overall ~800 people, but around this particular water cooler ;) only ~5010:04
jussinice10:04
shadeslayeral: how many of them will actually install it? :P10:17
shadeslayerthats the main question :D10:17
shadeslayerok small question,the maverick package for kdeartwork is -1ubuntu3 and for lucid its -1ubuntu2 in the ppa,which one should i keep if im backporting?10:24
shadeslayerwait.. the package version in lucid is -1ubuntu1 not 1ubuntu210:28
shadeslayerok ive versioned it as 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu1~ppa1 , any problems?10:28
shadeslayerRiddell: ping10:38
Riddellmorning shadeslayer 10:45
Riddellif 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3 is the version you're backporting to lucid then the backport is 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~lucid110:46
shadeslayerRiddell: i thought so.. ill upload to the ppa then.. lucid package is also finished.. no need to change anything :)10:48
shadeslayerRiddell: um.. do we have kde-sc-dev-latest in karmic?11:27
Riddellshadeslayer: nope11:27
shadeslayerRiddell: i added a build dep on it in  the lucid package as we11:28
shadeslayer*well11:28
Riddellso you need to build-dep on kdelibs5-dev (>= beta version)11:28
shadeslayerokies11:29
shadeslayerRiddell: ok thats not in the repo... so i guess kdeartwork for lucid will have to wait11:31
shadeslayeror is it under kde4libs?11:31
shadeslayerah yes11:31
Riddellyes that's the definitive kde build-dep :)11:33
shadeslayerRiddell: thanks,btw kde 4.5 beta 1 is going to be out today.. no delays expected :P11:36
shadeslayerok ill bbl.. after the upload is complete11:37
shadeslayerhey,will it be possible to use the same source for maverick and lucid for building a package and if yes then how do i do it?12:07
Riddellshadeslayer: the packaging will need to change if it build-deps on kde-sc-dev-latest for example12:08
shadeslayerRiddell: um of course,i meant that can the pristine tarball be used for both maverick and lucid?12:09
shadeslayerso that i dont have to upload 70 MB's of files again :P12:10
debfxshadeslayer: it even has to be the same12:10
Riddellyes, do your source build with  debuild -S  instead of debuild -S -sa  so the .orig doesn't get included in the .changes12:10
shadeslayerRiddell: and btw i deleted the kdeartwork package for lucid and uploaded the same version,but launchpad rejects it12:10
Riddellshadeslayer: launchpad takes a while to delete packages12:11
shadeslayersame version with some more changes12:11
shadeslayerok..12:11
Riddelljust upload a ~lucid1~ppa2 (assuming your first was ~lucid1~ppa1)12:11
shadeslayerRiddell: ok.. but when launchpad deletes the original ones... 12:12
shadeslayerwhat do i do :P12:12
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Riddellyou will still have the new ones uploaded12:13
shadeslayerok..12:13
shadeslayerRiddell: ok just uploaded kdeartwork for lucid... with changed build dep,should build now..12:18
shadeslayerRiddell: can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeartwork/ubuntu/+merge/26019 if youre free12:20
Riddellshadeslayer: aurorae is a kwin style isn't it?12:25
Riddellyes, the description says that12:25
shadeslayer:)12:25
Riddellshadeslayer: was it considered to put those files in kdeartwork-theme-window?  (not saying that's the right thing to do just wondering if it was a concious decision not to)12:26
shadeslayerRiddell: well we had a discussion yesterday12:26
shadeslayerand lex told me to put it that way :)12:27
Riddellooh let's not argue with lex then12:27
RiddellI'll merge it in12:27
shadeslayeroh wait12:27
shadeslayerRiddell: one sec12:27
shadeslayerRiddell: it was ScottK and Jontheechidna12:28
Riddellwell I'm certainly not arguing with them, that echidna has spikes on his back!12:29
shadeslayerhehe12:29
Riddellshadeslayer: 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~ppa1 is wrong though, should be 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa112:30
Riddelldebian and ubuntu version parts get reset when doing new upstream versions12:31
shadeslayerhmm.. so i should change and upload... but then launchpad will complain of versioning12:31
shadeslayerno one told me that yesterday though :P12:32
Riddellshadeslayer: don't worry about the upload, it's only a private PPA, the final upload will use the correct version12:32
Riddellshadeslayer: merged!  you are now a kubuntu ninja.  have a black belt12:32
shadeslayer\o/12:32
shadeslayerRiddell: thanks :)12:32
shadeslayerRiddell: ok and i should leave the package as it is for now right?12:33
Riddellyes12:34
shadeslayeroh noes.. FTBFS ><12:36
shadeslayerRiddell: hehe : https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1757113/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kdeartwork_4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz 12:37
Riddellseems like lucid needs some work in the PPA12:40
shadeslayeryep..12:42
shadeslayerRiddell: weird that it cant find most of the packages,when they are in the ppa itself12:42
shadeslayerRiddell: i think the problem is in kdebase-workspace...12:54
shadeslayernot sure though12:54
shadeslayerah both kdelibs and kdebase dont have lucid packages12:55
shadeslayerRiddell: both kdelibs and kdebase dont have lucid packages12:55
shadeslayerRiddell: im sure that this is causing it : kdebase-workspace-dev (>= 4:4.4) : we dont have kdebase workspace 4.4 in main :P13:01
shadeslayerdoh!13:01
shadeslayerignore that :P13:02
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JontheEchidnaRekonq 0.5 beta is looking spiffy (after I fixed the fonts, at any rate) http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktophc1463-jpg.jpg13:34
JontheEchidnaeww @ jpeg compression, tho13:35
JontheEchidna(ksnapshot's fault, not rekonq's)13:35
debfxhi JontheEchidna, care to do some more sponsoring? :)13:35
JontheEchidnadebfx: I could. Thinking about it we probably missed some cmake stuff for things that depend on kdebase-workspace-dev but not cmake, too13:36
alleeJontheEchidna, Quintasan: only root can change full name with chfn -f "Foo Bar"    So we still need the patch.13:36
debfxJontheEchidna: yeah I noticed that too13:37
debfxfixes are at the bottom of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDECMakeBuildDependTransition13:37
JontheEchidnaok. Let me upload kdeaccessibility to -ninjas and I'll get on that13:37
debfxand some more debdiff at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QtWebKitBuildDependTransition13:37
debfxthanks13:38
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CIA-92[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100526124114-jx9m9t82vyvsrn1q * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)13:41
CIA-92* New upstream release: - Bump kde-sc-dev-latest build-depend version to 4.4.8013:41
CIA-92- Update kde-icons-mono.install - Update kttsd.install * Switch to source format13:41
JontheEchidnadebfx: I get FTBFS for kdesudo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439874/13:52
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: i think the docbook needs to pass through EBN13:54
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/sanitizer/?component=kde-4.x13:56
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: kdesudo's not in KDE svn13:57
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: well you can just upload the docbook.. 13:57
JontheEchidnathe page isn't loading :(13:57
shadeslayerhmm... weird.. same thing here13:58
shadeslayeri think... its down :(13:59
JontheEchidnadebfx: If you'll say that it pbuilt with a maverick pbuilder I'll believe you. I am pbuilding against a KDE 4.5 ppa14:01
debfxJontheEchidna: yeah, builds fine for me14:01
shadeslayerdebfx: can you look at this : https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1757113 ?14:02
shadeslayeridk why it fails14:02
debfxshadeslayer: "Not allowed here"14:02
shadeslayerdebfx: oh..14:02
shadeslayerdebfx: try this : https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1757113/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kdeartwork_4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:03
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: It's a private ppa14:04
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: so even the logs are not visible?14:04
JontheEchidnayeah14:04
shadeslayer:(14:05
shadeslayerdebfx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439878/14:05
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: you gotta wait for kdebae-workspace to build in the ppa14:06
JontheEchidna+s14:06
JontheEchidnaonce it's there, you can hit the rebuild button14:07
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: the lucid release right? i though so.. 14:07
shadeslayerubuntu.com just changed its looks :D14:09
* JontheEchidna notes that we, sadly, haven't :(14:09
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: yeah... were still following the wiki style...14:10
shadeslayerthat handheld looks pretty awesome with ubuntu on it... 14:10
* shadeslayer goes to download Lost S6 Ep 1714:13
txwikingerBugDay tomorrow is epiphany browser14:15
txwikingeranything we want to do?14:15
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rgreeningkopete memory leak!14:17
rgreeningtxwikinger: ^14:17
rgreening:)14:17
txwikingerrgreening: bug triage?14:18
Riddelltxwikinger: rekonq?14:19
Riddellwould be good to get a feel for what the issues are with that14:19
JontheEchidnarekonq has no open bugs :D14:20
shadeslayerRiddell: there aint alot of bugs on LP about rekonq :P14:20
shadeslayerbugs.kde.org has some though14:20
* JontheEchidna reported a rekonq one to b.k.o a few minutes ago14:20
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: id?14:20
txwikingerRiddell: yeah good idea.. are there already bugs for it in launchpad?14:20
txwikingerwell.. if they are in b.k.o we do not need to have a bug day for it14:21
rgreeningkontact/kmail?14:21
txwikingerI bet there are lots of bugs for kontact/kmail14:21
rgreeningya14:21
txwikingerok.. lets take that then14:21
shadeslayeror kopete :P14:21
rgreeningyep. either of those would be good or amarok14:21
JontheEchidnathat mandatory tab preview thingy in rekonq is a bit annoying. I might file a wishlist report for that14:21
rgreeningJontheEchidna: ++++14:22
rgreening:)14:22
shadeslayerhahaha14:22
rgreeningand the fact you cant remove preview items14:22
amichairhi there, I'm trying to investigate a ktorrent plasmoid memory leak, does anyone know where I can find the libbtcore api or documentation? where does it come from? (google ain't too helpful)14:22
JontheEchidnait slows things down too, when you just want to change tabs14:22
shadeslayeri think rekonq looks better in gnome...14:22
* rgreening thinks gnome looks better in qt14:23
shadeslayerhehe :)14:23
shadeslayerwell all i needed to do was reduce font size...14:23
* txwikinger agrees with rgreening14:24
JontheEchidnaamichair: normally you'd probably find it at api.kde.org, but it is down at the moment14:24
* txwikinger did a Fedora13 testdrive yesterday14:24
amichairJontheEchidna: is libbtcore part of kde, or an external lib? I have all of kde checked out and don't see it14:25
* rgreening slaps txwikinger for touching that14:25
rgreening:)14:25
txwikingerrgreening: industrial espionage :p14:25
txwikingerwas boring anyway14:25
rgreeninglol14:25
JontheEchidnaamichair: it's a library originating from ktorrent, but if it has doxygen api documentation then api.kde.org will have it14:25
JontheEchidnasince it's in KDE svn14:25
Riddellamichair: libbtcore is part of ktorrent14:26
RiddellI doubt it has any docs on api.k.o14:26
* amichair feels silly looking at ktorrent svn checkout and still not seeing it14:27
JontheEchidnaenglishbreakfastnetwork has docs for playground, if they're present14:27
JontheEchidnaamichair: recently ktorrent split off some libs into a libktorrent, so that might be why you're having a hard time14:28
amichairah, I was just about to ask if they renamed it to libktcore or that's something else14:28
amichairoh now I see there's both a libktcore and libktorrent... but the latter indeed seems to be the place14:30
amichairJontheEchidna, Riddell: Thanks!14:30
amichair(it's a helluva memory leak, about 1M/minute here)14:30
JontheEchidnaheh14:31
amichairI installed it to see the work I did there a year ago (only now caught up to the kubuntu distribution version, I guess), and after leaving it overnight saw plasma-desktop taking up hundreds of megs14:31
amichairoh well14:32
amichairwe'll plug'em one at a time :-)14:32
JontheEchidna:)14:32
bulldog98Riddell: in which package should the translation of rekonq go in maverick?14:52
bulldog98there will also be translations of the documentation14:53
Riddell.po files can go in the rekonq package, they'll get stripped anyway14:54
Riddelldocumentation translations probably in a separate package14:56
bulldog98Riddell: should we also ship an separate data package?14:56
bulldog98and I also have an -dbg package in the daily repro14:57
JontheEchidnaThere's not enough data right not to justify a -data package atm, imo. Once we get translations we'll probably have a rekonq-l10n package14:57
JontheEchidna*doc translations14:58
Riddellseparate data packages only exist to keep the archive size down, I don't think there's enough data to justify that14:58
Riddellbulldog98: have you spoked to debfx about the packaging?14:58
bulldog98Riddell: not by now14:58
bulldog98debfx: what about packaging rekonq in the offical repro?14:59
RiddellI guess he's not awake yet but he's been doing the packaging in debian presumably with the aim of getting it synced in kubuntu15:00
bulldog98ok15:00
bulldog98then it would be fine if I speek with him about that if he’s back15:01
bulldog98but that will propably be tomorrow, cause I’ve got few time today15:01
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* shadeslayer heads over the wiki to start on another package15:07
shadeslayerRiddell: what do the --- represent in the wiki?15:08
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: that there's nothing to do for those (no new release, etc)15:08
shadeslayerah ok...15:09
shadeslayerill take kde-games then :)15:09
Riddellcheck for any new dependency on gluon there15:09
shadeslayerRiddell: sure.. i think gluon is already in the archive.. right?15:10
shadeslayerRiddell: oh btw version should have -0ubuntu1 right?15:14
shadeslayerRiddell: apparently someone just made a empty patch folder :P15:17
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yes, new upstream versions == go back to 0ubuntu1.15:17
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: can i remove the empty patch folder?15:18
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yeah15:18
Riddellfollow Debian's packaging (unless good reason not to)15:18
shadeslayerokies15:19
EagleScreen_Change QtCurve by Oxygen-Molecule theme in Kcm-gtk, it is better15:21
JontheEchidnaOxygen-Molecule doesn't follow colorschemes, it's a pixmap theme engine15:22
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: btw im trying to add ktown in dolphin,what port number do i need?15:22
shadeslayeralso what user name?15:22
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: dunno about port, but the username is ftpubuntu15:22
shadeslayerah ok15:23
shtylmanubuntu's new site is up15:24
EagleScreen_oh and QtCurve does it, JontheEchidna? I didn't know15:24
JontheEchidnaEagleScreen_: yeah, QtCurve supports color schemes.15:25
JontheEchidnafollowing the KDE settings15:25
* Riddell uploads kipi-plugins 15:25
EagleScreen_okay, good reason to keeo it15:25
JontheEchidnaIt would be nice if QtCurve was more pixel-perfect, I will admit15:26
debfxbulldog98: rekonq is sitting in debian NEW15:32
Riddellwe won't see that for a few weeks then ;)15:33
ScottKUnless we pull some strings.15:34
shadeslayerRiddell: rekonq just released 0.5 beta.. in case you guys didnt know :P15:35
shadeslayerbut of course.. you know everything :P15:35
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: already in maverick ;)15:35
shadeslayer:P15:35
Riddelldebfx: you should show bulldog98 where the svn is for the packaging so the distro packaging and daily packging can be kept in sync15:36
JontheEchidnaHey, wiki.kubuntu.org's SSL info shows up correctly with 0.4.9015:36
Riddellscore15:37
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: do we need readme.packagers with 3.0 ...15:37
shadeslayerhehe.. it seems to say Corrupt in git15:38
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: README.source went away because it described how to use quilt, but with source format 3.0 the patches are automatically applied when the source package is unpacked15:38
shadeslayerok... so keep other README files...15:38
JontheEchidnaREADME.packagers are what upstream usually uses to give packagers info, and isn't generally in the debian dir15:38
JontheEchidnais this REAME.packagers in the debian dir?15:39
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: no15:39
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: definitely leave it alone. We don't want to touch upstream stuff without a patch system15:39
shadeslayer:P15:39
debfxbulldog98: the debian rekonq package lives in svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-kde/kde-extras/rekonq/trunk/debian/15:40
debfxbulldog98: viewvc frontend: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/rekonq/trunk/debian/15:40
shadeslayeror just open in dolphin :P15:40
shadeslayerRiddell: seems to be working without gluon for now.. but then again its just started LO15:41
shadeslayer:P15:41
Riddellshadeslayer: what does the cmake output say?15:41
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439917/15:42
shadeslayerwell its optional.. 15:42
RiddellKDE has squillions of optional dependencies, we like to make use of them unless there's a good reason not to15:43
Riddellso probably a good idea to check out the state of our gluon packaging and twisted too15:44
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439918/15:44
shadeslayerRiddell: we have gluon in the ppa.. ill check out twisted15:44
shadeslayer!info python-twisted maverick15:45
ubottupython-twisted (source: twisted): Event-based framework for internet applications (transitional package). In component main, is extra. Version 10.0.0-2ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 11 kB, installed size 92 kB15:45
shadeslayerRiddell: gluon is only in the ppa,not in the official archives,so i guess we either push for a new package in archives or leave gluon...15:47
shadeslayerill try out a debuild with twisted till then15:47
Riddellshadeslayer: we can get it into the main archive15:47
Riddellso do add it to the PPA, we'll want to add it at some point, may as well make that point now15:48
shadeslayerRiddell: twisted has unmet deps15:48
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/439920/15:49
Riddellsome version skew going on somewhere15:50
shadeslayer!info python-twisted-conch maverick15:50
ubottupython-twisted-conch (source: twisted-conch): The Twisted SSH Implementation. In component main, is extra. Version 1:10.0.0-3 (maverick), package size 257 kB, installed size 1496 kB15:50
Riddellshadeslayer: looks like twisted-conch is expecting a newer version of twisted, might be time for you to get into twisted packaging :)15:53
shadeslayerbah... i dont that much time :P15:54
Riddellis the newer version of twisted-conch in debian?  if so can it be merged and uploaded to ubuntu15:54
Riddellalas packaging is not always a quick business15:54
shadeslayerRiddell: lets check it out :)15:54
shadeslayerwheres the upload queue of debian>15:55
Riddelluse packages.debian.org15:55
shadeslayerheh.. its at 8.1.0 :P15:56
Riddellso it's probably a bug in the ubuntu packaging of twisted15:56
Riddellmaking it have too tight a depends on twisted-conch15:56
shadeslayeroh thats only lenny15:56
shadeslayerhttp://packages.debian.org/sid/python-twisted-conch15:57
shadeslayersame thing in debian :(15:57
Riddellhttp://packages.debian.org/sid/python-twisted  that's the one you need15:57
Riddellso merge that with the python-twisted in ubuntu15:57
shadeslayerhmm.. merge.. ill have to ask for one..15:58
Riddellor just do it yourself15:59
shadeslayerRiddell: how?15:59
shadeslayerill have to read up on it :P15:59
shadeslayer!merge16:00
ubottuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging16:00
Riddellgrab the ubuntu package, grab the debian package 16:00
Riddellwork out what's been changed in the ubuntu package16:01
shadeslayerRiddell: from the changelog16:01
Riddellyes16:01
Riddellmake that same change to the debian package16:01
Riddellmerge the changelogs16:01
Riddellvoila16:01
shadeslayeraha!16:01
shadeslayeri now know merging :P16:01
shadeslayerRiddell: i should just dget the file right?16:02
apacheloggerfregl: o/16:02
apacheloggerlo everyone16:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: hi!16:03
apacheloggerfregl: I committed all sorts of goodness to the plasma theme just now16:03
* fregl huggles apachelogger16:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: what plasma theme? :P16:03
Riddellshadeslayer: yes16:03
* apachelogger rehuggles fregl16:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: for fluffy16:04
* apachelogger needs to leave for travelling to Graz in less than an hour :(16:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: ah :)16:04
freglapachelogger: your installer slideshow in german on the cd you gave me is most horrible16:04
apacheloggermy oh my16:04
shadeslayerRiddell: wheee... package.ubuntu.com shows no package for python-twisted16:04
apacheloggerthat said, I never did a german install16:05
* apachelogger takes note to run translated installs too16:05
Riddelllaunchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-twisted knows all16:05
apacheloggerRiddell: dpm is on that annoyance of fregl's?16:05
Riddellfregl: I forwarded your e-mail to dpm 16:05
apacheloggerah :)16:05
freglRiddell: thanks :)16:05
shadeslayerRiddell: i get : Lost something?16:05
ScottKshadeslayer: p.u.c isn't updated to work for maverick yet.16:05
* fregl hugs Riddell also 16:05
Riddellso I expect he's whipping appropriate arses right now16:05
* apachelogger puts on that very special smile of his ^^16:06
shadeslayerRiddell: nvm16:06
Riddellshadeslayer: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/twisted16:06
shadeslayerScottK: ok16:06
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah found it :P16:06
apacheloggerseaLne: pingy ... for the kde mm + edu sprint last week we created #kde-sprinters, I was thinking that maybe it should be registered and reused for other sprints, what do you think about that?16:08
dpmfregl, apachelogger, after Riddell forwarded me the e-mail, I contacted the German translation team to look into it. fregl, you did the right thing in submitting the suggestions for the corrections. In the future though, you can contact the translation team directly at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-de (not that I mind if you tell me or Riddell as well, just letting you know that you can talk to them directly)16:09
shadeslayerRiddell: btw whats a debdiff?16:11
apacheloggershadeslayer: a diff created between debian source packages16:12
apacheloggerit is a special app too16:12
apacheloggerdebdiff --help16:12
shadeslayerah ok16:12
shadeslayercomparing file lists in 2 packages :)16:12
apacheloggerno no16:13
apacheloggerdebian _source_ package16:13
apacheloggernot the binary deb16:13
debfxit can also compare binaries16:13
apacheloggerah, it can?16:13
* apachelogger didnt know ^^16:13
fregldpm: thanks :) I just know Riddell, so I talked to him16:13
fregland finding out who to contact is time that I don't really have16:14
* nixternal whistles a tune while waiting for the stats to produce a darn report16:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: well thats what the man page says :)16:15
apacheloggerfregl: btw, I was thinking that we maybe should go with a panel after all, I kind of loose track of time too easily without a clock that is visible at all times ^^16:15
freglapachelogger: +1 for having a pink panel16:15
freglas long as it's fluffy enough16:15
apacheloggerfluffy it is alright16:16
freglI was thinking about having a straight border in the non-composited case too, so it doesn't look as crappy16:16
apachelogger*nod*16:16
shadeslayerRiddell: ah theres only one different entry..16:16
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439931/16:17
Riddellshadeslayer: there must be an accompanying change in debian/ which actually did what the changelog describes16:18
seaLneapachelogger: hmm, i think previously sprints have just used there "normal" irc channel?16:18
Riddellthat's what needs ported over to the new debian package (assuming the new debian package isn't for the same reason)16:18
shadeslayerRiddell: actually the script which rebuilds the cache is in the debian package as well16:19
Riddellshadeslayer: ah then maybe we can just sync from debian16:19
shadeslayerRiddell: seems so16:19
apacheloggerseaLne: that generates noise if you want to fool around and stuff, I think having a seperate channel you can flood with sprint related stuff is good, at least we also had a lot of fun because of the channel ^^16:20
shadeslayerRiddell: all the contents of debian/ in both the packages seem to be same16:20
Riddellshadeslayer: this seems different http://paste.ubuntu.com/439935/16:21
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah i was going through that16:22
shadeslayerRiddell: mine is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/439936/16:22
shadeslayera bit differently formatted :P16:22
Riddelldiff -u is your friend, diff is always better with a -u16:23
shadeslayerRiddell: ok so im applying the same thing to the debian package16:23
Riddellgroovy16:24
Riddellmerge in the ubuntu changelog entries at the appropriate place16:24
Riddelldch -i and add a -3ubuntu1 changelog entry saying16:24
Riddellmerge with debian, remaining change:16:24
Riddell - whatever the change is16:24
Riddelldebuild -S  and get the files to me for upload16:25
Riddellyou can also build it locally if you want to crack on with kdegames before it's built in the archive16:25
Riddelldudes: looks like we have these merges still to do for main..16:26
Riddellkonversation, taglib, strigi, arora, qscintilla2, libqalculate, libssh, network-manager-pptp, oxygencursors, quassel, raptor16:26
JontheEchidnazomg!16:26
shtylmanheh16:26
JontheEchidnaoh yeah, that reminds me16:26
ScottKRiddell: No need to merge quassel.16:26
JontheEchidnaagateau: the message indicator patch fails to apply against konversation 1.3 beta :(16:26
JontheEchidnaagateau: If you could update it, it would be very much appreciated16:27
* Riddell grabs taglib16:27
agateauJontheEchidna: ok, will do16:27
JontheEchidnaagateau: thanks :)16:28
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439939/16:28
shadeslayerthats diff -u on both the folders16:28
Riddellshadeslayer: mm, that's missing the debian/rules change16:30
Riddelloh I see16:30
Riddellit's a diff against current ubuntu16:30
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah.. and in the last line it says changelog~ ive remove that file too16:30
shadeslayerso now it looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/439942/16:30
Riddelloh roar paste.ubuntu.com why can't I use wget 16:31
Riddellbecause the sysadmins won't let me, roar16:31
ScottKRiddell: Exactly why I don't use it.16:32
shadeslayerhehe.. 16:32
Riddellme neither16:32
Riddellthat and the non word wrap issue16:32
shadeslayerwhich one do you prefer?16:33
macothe word wrap one is why i generally dont16:33
Riddellkubuntu.pastebin.com for me16:33
macopastebin.com lately, as pastebin.ca is slow16:33
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/6q63d9vL16:34
Riddellshadeslayer: s/lucid/maverick/ :)16:35
shadeslayerRiddell: ah yes..16:35
nigelbshadeslayer: ah, you've made the mistake we all make *every* time :)16:35
shadeslayernigelb: hehe :P16:36
nigelbIf I didn't install lucid, I might send with karmic even ;)16:36
shadeslayernigelb: well im on a lucid system.. so i forgot,ill probably upgrade to alpha116:36
nigelbshadeslayer: if you can deal with it.  I never install alpha, beta, or rc because my system's hardware isn't that great16:36
shadeslayernigelb: hmm.. what does hardware have to do with alpha's?16:37
nigelbmy screen always flickrs, so I dunno if its X or hardware16:37
shadeslayerbut anyways i have a XPS so i dont have to worry that much...16:37
nigelbwow, nice :)16:37
shadeslayernigelb: M1530 :P16:38
shadeslayerits out of production now though :(16:38
shadeslayerand out of warranty too ;)16:38
nigelbWell, you were wise to buy dell, I made the mistake of buying hp16:38
shadeslayernigelb: i would say otherwise16:39
shadeslayeralmost everything on my system had to be replaced,apart from the HD and the mobo16:39
nigelbshadeslayer: ok, then we got the worst hardware from our respective OEMs :D16:40
shadeslayerRiddell: ill send you the files in a few mins :)16:40
shadeslayernigelb: :P16:40
Riddellshadeslayer: I've already uploaded16:42
Riddell"twisted 10.0.0-3ubuntu1 (Accepted)"16:42
Riddellshadeslayer is now an ubuntu general packaging ninja, have an aubergine belt!16:43
ScottKRiddell and shadeslayer: Don't bother with sending the diff back to Debian.  It doesn't actually seem to fix the bug it was put in there to fix.16:43
shadeslayerScottK: hehe16:44
shadeslayerRiddell: :P16:44
shadeslayerRiddell: i think the changelog had one missing entry16:44
Riddellrgreening: we should put arora back to universe for this release, do you think we should maintain our diff or drop it?16:44
shadeslayerrgreening: http://pastebin.com/5WnrSTzT16:45
Riddellrgreening: looks like watch file, x-www-browser, flash install and upstream fixes are our diff16:45
shadeslayerRiddell: how long before it builds?16:46
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/5WnrSTzT16:46
Riddellshadeslayer: it'll be an hour or two before it's ready to download16:47
shadeslayerRiddell: ok... ill work on the kdegames package then16:47
shadeslayerRiddell: is there some log of sorts which can tell me the status of the package?16:49
Riddellhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/twisted/10.0.0-3ubuntu1 will link to the build servers16:50
Riddellarm is already running looks like16:50
shadeslayercool16:51
debfxRiddell: libssh can be synced16:52
Riddelldebfx: what was changed in it?16:52
debfxRiddell: some conflicts/replaces with old libssh-* packages were added16:53
Riddelldebfx: what's your launchpad id?16:54
debfxRiddell: debfx16:54
Riddellgroovy, synced16:55
debfxRiddell: raptor can be synced too, ubuntu diff has been picked up by debian16:57
Riddellsyncing raptor, also strigi16:58
Tonio_got a stupid question here17:03
Tonio_if I install a package on a livecd session17:03
Tonio_and then install17:03
Tonio_will this package be installed in the process ?17:03
Riddellno17:04
Riddellubiquity copies the compressed filesystem not the live one17:04
ScottKBTW, rekonq is accepted in Debian.17:06
Riddellgoodness17:08
nixternala bunch of responses to this survey17:09
debfxScottK: are you responsible for that? ;)17:11
Tonio_Riddell: hum, what if the problem is that I need an updated kernel to be able to boot ?17:11
debfxTonio_: you can chroot into your newly installed system17:11
debfxand install new packages17:12
nixternalRiddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Feedback/Lucid17:14
ScottKdebfx: I might have expedited it.17:14
shadeslayernixternal: wheee!17:15
shadeslayerdoes ubuntu have logo?17:19
shadeslayerthe programming language17:19
ScottKrmadison logo says not.17:20
shadeslayerdapper had this : http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/junior-programming17:20
shadeslayerim going to install 10.04 on the desktop and logo is a absolute must for my sister :P17:21
shadeslayeryeah lucid has it too17:21
Riddellkturtle17:23
RiddellNCommander: what did you make of qt?  can we poke a soyuz person to make the timeout longer?17:26
shadeslayerRiddell: something gnomeish :P17:26
shadeslayershipit sent me 2 ubuntu cd's when i asked for 1 ubuntu and 1 kubuntu cd :P17:27
Riddellsigh17:27
shadeslayershtylman: got a sec?17:27
Riddellshipit@ubuntu.com will be interested in that, they're ment to have high quality controls at the factory17:27
shtylmanshadeslayer: sure17:28
shadeslayershtylman: what was the site you told me,the one that hosted kubuntu.org pre-release?17:29
shtylmanshadeslayer: what do you mean pre-release?17:30
NCommanderRiddell: I'm talking with lamont on it, but I'm making sure it will actually finish given unlimited time (which is a personal check I do before I go fiddle with timeouts)17:30
NCommanderRiddell: basically "watch this spot"17:30
RiddellNCommander: hugs17:30
NCommanderRiddell: once I know it builds, I'll have lamont increase the timeout, and retry it17:31
NCommanderand if that succeeds, I'll retry the rdepends17:31
shadeslayershtylman: weird thing is, i didnt bookmark it :P17:31
shtylmanshadeslayer: are you talking about the new kubuntu.org site design?17:32
shadeslayershtylman: yes17:32
shtylmanRiddell: ^ link?17:32
Riddellwell it doesn't exist, the sysadmins haven't made it17:32
Riddellwhich is embarracing now that ubuntu.com has been updated17:32
shtylmanRiddell: right.. but there was some image with the screenshot or something17:33
Riddellofir knows17:33
shtylmanI myself don't have the link either... and yes... I will cry nightly now that we are still on the old site17:33
shadeslayershtylman: +++++17:33
shadeslayershtylman: just call upon me,ill help :P17:34
shtylmanshadeslayer: unfortunately it is out of our hands17:35
shadeslayershtylman: :(17:35
shtylmanthe sysadmins (whoever they are) have to do it17:35
shtylmanif it was up to us... we would have done it ages ago17:35
shadeslayershtylman: we must find these sysadmins...17:35
shadeslayersomeone from lp must be involved...17:36
shtylmanshadeslayer: they know about it... they just have lots of thinks they do :/17:37
shtylman*things17:37
shadeslayershtylman: hmm.. well hope that their TODO list has this somewhere17:37
shtylmanheh17:38
shadeslayerhow awesome will it be if maveric releases at 10.10 am on 10/10/1017:40
shtylmanshadeslayer: 10.10 am is relative...17:40
shtylmanunless you mean UTC17:41
shadeslayerUTC of course :)17:41
shadeslayerwell.. if they dont make the UTC time,any other timezone :P17:41
shadeslayerok im going off for now... cya in about 2 hours :_17:44
shadeslayer:)17:44
JontheEchidnaOoh, official soprano and akonadi tarballs for beta17:57
* JontheEchidna peers around for lex17:58
JontheEchidna!seen lex7917:58
ubottuI have no seen command17:58
JontheEchidna~seen lex7917:58
kubotulex79 was last seen 10 hours, 37 minutes and 7 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Remote host closed the connection)17:58
Riddellnew tars with release in an hour?  demanding upstream this one17:59
JontheEchidnathere weren't tarballs before18:03
Riddellexactly18:08
JontheEchidnaoh, so we're in agreement then :)18:09
JontheEchidnathey've never been good about giving us kdesupport stuff early on18:09
ScottKClearly the legend of the Kubuntu Packaging Ninjas has spread and everyone assumes an hour is no problem.18:09
Riddellwhich is weird given the discussion about external dependency freeze on kde-core-devel18:09
Tm_TRiddell: possibly not everyone consider kdesupport as external18:40
RiddellTonio_: network-manager-pptp  is listed on https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html but it doesn't seem to have ever had anything to do with the Debian package according to the changelog, so I don't think I'll bother merging it18:44
Riddellrgreening: I merged arora though, and moved it to universe18:44
Riddellwhich leaves only konversation (blocked on agateau porting patch) and quassel (scottk's baby)18:45
ScottKQuassel is effectivlye forked.  There's no need to worry about merging it.18:45
ScottKThe Debian maintainer wasn't that interested in our changes.18:45
CIA-92[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100526174925-i7wow3o3331l1b1v * debian/ (3 files) Remove old files18:49
lex79JontheEchidna: where's soprano?18:49
lex79the official tarball18:50
Riddellhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/soprano/files/Soprano/2.4.63/soprano-2.4.63.tar.bz2/download18:50
JontheEchidnalex79: http://sourceforge.net/projects/soprano/files/Soprano/2.4.63/soprano-2.4.63.tar.bz2/download18:50
lex79thanks18:51
JontheEchidnalex79: I forgot to delete some files in bzr for kdepimlibs, and that f****d everything up18:51
JontheEchidnafixing now18:51
lex79ok no problem18:52
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lex79uhm JontheEchidna, why kdepimlibs-data.install and kdepimlibs5.install are gone? lol18:55
JontheEchidnalex79: split into all those little packages18:55
lex79omg18:55
Riddellinsy winsy little packages18:56
lex79I have to redo the package :(18:56
JontheEchidnalex79: soz :(18:56
lex79we need something to don't forget bzr add and bzr remove when we push to bzr18:57
JontheEchidnaheh, yeah18:57
JontheEchidnabrb, rebooting18:57
lex79Riddell: we have kdebindings built in the beta1, it's a miracle eh? :D18:58
ScottKSpeaking of mythtv, does anyone know if plasma-mediacenter speaks the Myth protocol?18:59
Riddelllex79: hallelujah!18:59
lex79:)19:00
neversfeldelex79: wow19:09
lex79eh :)19:09
jtechidnawhew19:16
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JontheEchidnaKDM seems to be messed up19:18
lex79JontheEchidna: did you upgrade to beta1?19:19
JontheEchidnayeah19:19
lex79oh you're brave :)19:20
ghostcube_maemoo/19:20
JontheEchidnabarely made it :D19:20
JontheEchidnalex79: http://pastebin.com/EjK6rWUi19:20
lex79JontheEchidna: just that problem?19:21
JontheEchidnalex79: that, and kdepimlibs being broken19:21
lex79ok19:22
JontheEchidnaRiddell: the advanced tab is gone in System Settings now, rejoice!19:22
RiddellJontheEchidna: oh?  where did it go?19:23
JontheEchidnaRiddell: they totally reorganized SS19:23
Riddellsooner or later everyone does19:24
JontheEchidnahttp://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoptu2530-jpg.jpg19:24
JontheEchidnathe Lost and Found group is a bit annoying, though19:24
ScottKJontheEchidna: Looks like the first one needs to go back to -data and the second needs a replaces.19:26
ScottKActually conflicts/replaces since we want the old package to go away.19:26
lex79freespacenotifier should be removed from archive?19:28
ScottKI think so.  It's in -workspace now.19:28
* ScottK looks over at Riddell.19:29
Riddellqui moi?19:29
Riddelloh right, removal19:29
Riddell2010-05-26 18:30:20 INFO    7 packages successfully removed.19:30
ScottKlex79: Done.19:31
lex79ok19:32
debfxRiddell: more removal: bug #58283019:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 582830 in plasma-widget-logout (Ubuntu) "Please remove the package plasma-widget-logout" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58283019:32
Riddelldebfx: voila19:35
Riddellhow do I add a comment on Mom?19:37
ScottKRiddell: There's an invisible hot spot you click on.19:38
ScottKLook at ~ where the comments are for other entries.19:38
Riddellgoodness so there is19:38
macoRiddell: get a pen and tell her to hold out hre hand19:39
ScottKIt's very web 2.0, not designed for us old folks.19:39
CIA-92[kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100526184340-rlx1jh78h1d5z1ml * src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Change System Settings category to the new one for KDE 4.519:44
binarylookshey dear kubuntu makers. I have a question about the qt4.7 in the experimental ppa19:46
binarylooksdid you test it? I can't compile the plasma-mobile packages19:46
binarylookspeople tell me it works with qt compiled from sources19:46
rbelemlet me check19:47
Riddellbinarylooks: yes it was tested. a compile error would help19:47
binarylooks(lots of undefined refrence compile errors)19:48
binarylooks(copy paste from kdevelop is very difficult)19:49
* lex79 uploaded akonadi, soprano, kdebase-workspace to ppa19:49
rbelemit is complaining about qt declarative19:49
binarylooksrbelem: yes. undefined refrences and stuff19:50
binarylooksplasma tells me it works with qt from sources. bt they change things often in git19:50
binarylooksalthough that it suddenly doesn't work at all would be weird19:51
rbelemprobably the code is outdated19:51
rbelemlet me check again19:51
binarylooksrbelem: thanks for the help19:51
rbelemnp ;-)19:51
binarylooks(BTW, you kubuntu guys are doing a great job. sometimes it needs to be said :-)19:51
Tonio_Riddell: right don't merge network-manager thingy20:00
Riddellooh I can do the magic comment thing20:01
* rbelem still debugging20:05
* binarylooks is also debugging20:05
debfxRiddell: something went wrong with the arora merge20:14
debfxbut I've fixed that: http://debfx.fobos.de/ubu/arora_0.10.2-1ubuntu2.debdiff20:15
Riddelldebfx: thanks!20:16
debfxin fact could you please sponsor all debdiff from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QtWebKitBuildDependTransition :)20:16
Riddellsure20:17
Riddelldebfx: done google-gadgets  merkaartor  nmapsi4  qzion20:27
RiddellI think that's all20:27
rbelembinarylooks, i think the problem is that cmake does not have qt declarative info20:28
binarylooksrbelem: is that easy to fix=20:28
rbelemyep20:28
binarylookss/=/?20:28
* binarylooks begs rbelem to tell him the secret20:28
binarylooks:-)20:28
rbelemehehehe20:29
rbelemRiddell, do you who installs the cmake qt info?20:30
Riddell# dpkg -S /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindQt4.cmake20:30
Riddellcmake-data: /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindQt4.cmake20:30
Riddellthat'll be cmake-data20:31
rbelemcool20:31
rbelemthanks Riddell 20:31
Riddellwe're doing good for universe merges too, just these packages I can see we should care about kmess, kover, kphotoalbum, kredentials, kst, ktechlab, qwit, skim, taskjuggler20:32
Riddellnixternal: can kredentials die?20:32
rbelembinarylooks, try building using a maverick chroot20:32
binarylooksrbelem: is it something that I can do locally or do I need to wait for a new cmale package?20:32
binarylookshmmm, cmale sounds really strange20:33
shadeslayer4.5 beta 1 is out :)20:33
binarylooksyay!20:33
shadeslayerhttp://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.5-beta1.php20:33
Riddellwe should probably backport cmake20:33
shadeslayerbinarylooks: we dont have packages :(20:33
binarylooksI have spare cookies to give20:34
binarylooksnewly baked ones20:34
* Riddell test builds new cmake on lucid20:34
binarylooksI guess people want to test qml, so a backport would make many a poeple happy20:34
shadeslayerbinarylooks: do they have the kubuntu logo on them? :P20:34
binarylooksi can get my scissors :-)20:35
* rbelem is build a newer cmake for lucid20:36
* binarylooks wants to hug all of you20:37
rbelembinarylooks, join #kubuntu-mobile20:37
Tm_T-mobile ?20:37
shadeslayerchromium is very intelligent... switches buttons to left when in gnome and right when in jde20:37
shadeslayer*kde20:37
binarylookshey, i want kubuntu-mediacenter :-p20:38
debfxRiddell: yes, thanks20:38
shadeslayerbinarylooks: hahaha20:38
shadeslayerbinarylooks: theres a plasma-media-center in the works20:38
binarylooksshadeslayer: I'm the main developer :-p20:38
binarylooksATN at least20:38
binarylookss/ATN/ATM20:38
shadeslayerbinarylooks: oh yeah :D20:38
shadeslayerbinarylooks: awesome work!20:38
binarylookstogether with alessandro20:38
binarylooksthanks20:39
shadeslayerbinarylooks: i cant make it start properly though..20:39
* binarylooks blushes furiously20:39
neversfeldesomeone knows, if kdelirc was removed from kdeutils?20:39
shadeslayerdoesnt seem to play vides :P20:39
shadeslayer*vids20:39
binarylooksshadeslayer: you need gstreamer20:39
shadeslayerbinarylooks: ah that beast20:39
shadeslayerbinarylooks: phonon-backend-gstreamer?20:39
binarylookswhat do you mean with "start properly"?20:39
binarylooksshadeslayer: yes20:39
binarylooksand than prepare fro blueness all around20:40
shadeslayerbinarylooks: like how do i start it? plasma-mediacenter?20:40
binarylooksshadeslayer: yes20:40
binarylooks-f to not have fullscreen20:40
* binarylooks wants to note that we are in have development and PMC is only 50% functional20:40
binarylookss/have/heavy20:40
binarylooksI wrote a loooong blog post about it: blog.binarylooks.com20:41
rbelembinarylooks, cool! :-)20:42
shadeslayerbinarylooks: small problem.. when i click on a video,nothing happens :P20:42
shadeslayerbinarylooks: a problem with the slot i think : plasmediacenter(3622) MediaBrowser::slotIndexActivated: finished20:42
binarylooksshadeslayer: it is added to the playlist20:42
debfxRiddell: two more syncs: bug #582621, bug #582616 and a debdiff: http://debfx.fobos.de/ubu/uim_1.5.7-6ubuntu1.debdiff20:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 582621 in kmess (Ubuntu) "Sync kmess 2.0.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58262120:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 582616 in kover (Ubuntu) "Sync kover 1:4-7 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58261620:43
shadeslayerbinarylooks: where is the playlist?20:43
binarylooksshadeslayer: you need to click play or just start from the playlist20:43
binarylooksshadeslayer: also, the player does not resize correctly ATM20:43
binarylooksshadeslayer: it should be visible in videomode, right side20:43
shadeslayerbinarylooks: lemme just update my svn copy20:44
shadeslayerbeen 2-3 weeks :P20:44
binarylooksshadeslayer: that explains it :-)20:44
shadeslayerhehe ... rebuilding20:44
neversfeldeseems to be replace be kderemotecontrol20:44
binarylooksneversfelde: do you know if it is actively devloped?20:45
shadeslayerbinarylooks: bah.. now it says cant find mediacontroller :P20:45
neversfeldebinarylooks: ?20:46
binarylookskdebuildsyscoca420:46
binarylooksneversfelde: you talked about the remote control library20:46
neversfeldebinarylooks: yes20:46
neversfeldepackaging kdeutils20:47
binarylooksneversfelde: you meant the package for kubuntu I guess20:47
neversfeldeyes20:47
binarylooksshadeslayer: if you want more info, join plasma-mediacenter20:47
shadeslayerbinarylooks: coming20:47
Mamarokshadeslayer: did you see the answer you got for your libre.fm question?20:55
Mamarokthere is a script for that: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Amarok2LibreFM?content=10733920:56
shadeslayerMamarok: no :(20:56
shadeslayerMamarok: i did install that,but when i play it didnt get scrobbled20:56
shadeslayeroh wow20:56
Mamarokthen talk to the script author, this is out of our control20:57
shadeslayerbinarylooks: your mediacetre crashed amarok :P20:57
shadeslayerwait.. might be gstreamer20:57
shadeslayeryep gstreamer20:57
binarylooksshadeslayer: ufff, you made my heart stop for a second there21:01
shadeslayerbinarylooks: hehe :D21:01
shadeslayerbinarylooks: well both mediacentre and amarok are compiled,so anything can happen :P21:01
binarylooksrbelem: when do you think  the cmake package will hit the ppa's?21:05
binarylooksor could you post your deb somewhere?21:06
rbelembinarylooks, probably Riddell will upload to lucid-backports. I will upload mine package to my server21:09
binarylooksrbelem: thanks a lot21:10
shadeslayerbinarylooks: those are not recommended packages21:11
binarylooksshadeslayer: i know, i know. as I said, I want qt quick21:12
shadeslayerbinarylooks: idk the exact details but apachelogger was explicit about not using the experimental ppa21:12
binarylooksshadeslayer: it was announced on kubuntu.org wans't it?21:12
shadeslayerbinarylooks: no21:12
shadeslayeroh waut21:13
shadeslayerthats new... 21:13
binarylookshttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/qt-4.721:13
shadeslayerbinarylooks: yeah i guess i dont visit kubuntu.org that often :P21:13
binarylooks:-p hehe21:13
shadeslayerbinarylooks: ok ill upgrade and check21:14
apacheloggerall this travelling :(21:17
apacheloggerseaLne: so, what to do with the channel?21:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: are the Qt 4.7 packages ready to use?21:18
apacheloggereh21:18
shadeslayeryou said a few days ago not to use them21:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: experimental ppa21:18
apacheloggerRiddell: I think that kind of news should not be on kubuntu.org21:18
shadeslayeri agree21:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: that depends on whether you mean by use ... trying to create qt quick/qml apps21:18
* binarylooks notes that the qt4.7 packages work nicely on his computer (except a small bug in plasma-netbook21:19
apacheloggerbecause if you do not, then I would not say so21:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: well.. i will be working on creating a app,so ill upgrade...21:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: not an app, a qml app :P21:20
binarylooksmaybe there should be a note on kubuntu.org about the need for a newer cmake version to get qml working21:20
shadeslayerkubotu: google qml21:20
apacheloggerthere is no reason why you would want to upgrade to a beta qt unless you want to build upon new technologies it got21:20
kubotuResults for qml: 1. Qt Labs Blogs » Qt Declarative UI: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/05/13/qt-declarative-ui/ | 2. QML: http://www.questml.com/ | 3. QML : Metals and Logistics: http://www.qml.us/21:20
apacheloggerIMHO it makes more sense to test using the static SDK from qt.nokia.com anyway :P21:20
shadeslayerRiddell: python-twisted still not built completely :(21:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: hmm21:22
seaLneapachelogger: sorry i was out, just back21:23
neversfeldeyes, I have the same opinion, experimental packages should not be announced21:23
neversfeldeexperienced users will find them, the rest shouldn't :)21:24
shadeslayer:D21:24
shadeslayerhaha : http://twitpic.com/1rbswq21:25
binarylooks<pprkut> binarylooks: I had that bug to with QtWebKit 2.0. It's either fixed or worked around in newer rekonq versions21:26
binarylooksshadeslayer: ^21:26
binarylooksfrom the rekonq issue21:26
shadeslayerbinarylooks: ah.. well like i said,must have been fixed in Git :)21:26
binarylooksstrange that it only appeared today21:26
binarylooksit happens because of the tabpreview21:27
neversfeldeI will not finish kdeutils today, but I think it will be ready tomorrow evening21:28
neversfeldeif I block a release, someone else will have to do it21:28
=== shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_
shadeslayer_afk for a while... need to study :P21:28
shadeslayerafk for a while... need to study :P21:29
=== shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_
rbelembinarylooks, http://media.rbelem.info/cmake/21:31
binarylooksrbelem: you definitely are my today's hero21:32
rbelemehehe :-)21:32
* apachelogger needs to do loads of university work :(21:34
rbelembinarylooks, my build still failing21:37
binarylooksrbelem: mine too :-(21:38
binarylooksI guess it's time to go to bed and hope tomorrow morning the problem will just have gone away ;-)21:40
shadeslayer_Riddell: same problem with new package21:48
shadeslayer_Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/Km74rgCQ21:50
shadeslayer_Riddell: i think the problem is that we named the package 10.0.0 but it should be 10.0 , or we make the depends as 10.0.0 ...21:53
shadeslayer_anyways im off to sleep :)21:54
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/58609222:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 586092 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "0x00007fffe957d90b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkcal.so.4 " [Undecided,New]22:43
BUGabundoare we sending KDE bugs upstream this early in maverick?22:44
lex79~seen Quintasan22:56
kubotuQuintasan was last seen 1 day, 2 hours, 49 minutes and 24 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Remote host closed the connection)22:56
lex79Riddell: are you doing cmake backport?23:01
lex79JontheEchidna: I'm wondering where usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/kaddressbookimprotocol.desktop should go in kdepimlibs since -data is gone23:22
lex79in libkontactinterface4.install ?23:22
JontheEchidnalex79: libakonadi23:36
JontheEchidnalex79: that's where the file originates in the kdepimlibs source23:36
lex79ok thanks :)23:37
JontheEchidnalex79: libakonadi-contact423:37
JontheEchidnaoh my, there appears to have been a binary incompatible change to the KCModule code :(23:38
lex79kk, added23:38
lex79Riddell: I uploaded cmake backport to ninja23:41
JontheEchidna!find /usr/lib/libkcmutils.so23:51
ubottuPackage/file /usr/lib/libkcmutils.so does not exist in lucid23:51

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