[02:35] anybody working on the new rekonq beta? [02:37] wow, there's ktorrent 4.0 too... we're going to be so busy :) [02:38] gotta package libktorrent now, too [02:42] launchpad now support build recipies :) [02:42] you can now ask it to build your packages right into a ppa [02:42] the future is now [02:42] hrmhrm [02:42] shtylman: did the Qt import ever work? [02:43] nope [02:43] not yet [02:43] :( [02:43] I will poke at it more tomorrow... [02:43] it may just be too big or something [02:43] heh, a good way to stress-test the new system, at any rate [02:43] yep [02:43] pinged any #launchpad guys about it? [02:44] not yet [02:44] but I will [02:44] exciting times [02:44] yep [02:44] * JontheEchidna uploads rekonq 0.4.90 [02:45] rekonq is so lovely and small. Very short build time [02:45] cool [02:45] openoffice is not lovely and small [02:46] * JontheEchidna starts to giggle uncontrollably [02:47] Start in 34 seconds (12505) What's this? < -Gotta love the build scores for P3A's [02:50] heh === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [05:46] im uploading kdeartwork to the ppa,there was a power outage so couldnt upload earlier :P [06:18] hahaha... my build is stuck at "Starting in 4 seconds" :P [06:27] lex79: are you around? [06:27] ok um any other ninja? [06:41] ok if i uploaded the package to the ninja PPA,do i also have to upload the various changes in debian/ to the bzr branch? [06:42] Riddell: sorry for the delay, QT4 is now being looked at [06:45] ok what if i need to add multiple lines of change in bzr log? [07:05] oh nvm [07:09] Riddell: kdeartwork was uploaded and built,its in the ninja PPA :) [07:17] shadeslayer: It should go in bzr too. [07:17] ScottK: just the debian/ folder too? [07:17] -too [07:17] Yes. Just debian dir. [07:18] ScottK: ok im making a bzr branch and ill ask for a merge :) [07:19] ScottK: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeartwork/ubuntu [07:20] * ScottK is about to go pass out for a few hours. [07:20] :) [07:21] well the first * is not aligned properly.. apart from that everything seems good :) [08:17] My kubuntu works again! :D [08:51] please review : https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeartwork/ubuntu/+merge/26019 [09:31] allee [10:00] placed 10 kubuntu CDs at the water cooler two hours ago - all gone [10:03] al: heh [10:03] al: nice! how big is your office? [10:04] jussi: overall ~800 people, but around this particular water cooler ;) only ~50 [10:04] nice [10:17] al: how many of them will actually install it? :P [10:17] thats the main question :D [10:24] ok small question,the maverick package for kdeartwork is -1ubuntu3 and for lucid its -1ubuntu2 in the ppa,which one should i keep if im backporting? [10:28] wait.. the package version in lucid is -1ubuntu1 not 1ubuntu2 [10:28] ok ive versioned it as 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu1~ppa1 , any problems? [10:38] Riddell: ping [10:45] morning shadeslayer [10:46] if 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3 is the version you're backporting to lucid then the backport is 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~lucid1 [10:48] Riddell: i thought so.. ill upload to the ppa then.. lucid package is also finished.. no need to change anything :) [11:27] Riddell: um.. do we have kde-sc-dev-latest in karmic? [11:27] shadeslayer: nope [11:28] Riddell: i added a build dep on it in the lucid package as we [11:28] *well [11:28] so you need to build-dep on kdelibs5-dev (>= beta version) [11:29] okies [11:31] Riddell: ok thats not in the repo... so i guess kdeartwork for lucid will have to wait [11:31] or is it under kde4libs? [11:31] ah yes [11:33] yes that's the definitive kde build-dep :) [11:36] Riddell: thanks,btw kde 4.5 beta 1 is going to be out today.. no delays expected :P [11:37] ok ill bbl.. after the upload is complete [12:07] hey,will it be possible to use the same source for maverick and lucid for building a package and if yes then how do i do it? [12:08] shadeslayer: the packaging will need to change if it build-deps on kde-sc-dev-latest for example [12:09] Riddell: um of course,i meant that can the pristine tarball be used for both maverick and lucid? [12:10] so that i dont have to upload 70 MB's of files again :P [12:10] shadeslayer: it even has to be the same [12:10] yes, do your source build with debuild -S instead of debuild -S -sa so the .orig doesn't get included in the .changes [12:10] Riddell: and btw i deleted the kdeartwork package for lucid and uploaded the same version,but launchpad rejects it [12:11] shadeslayer: launchpad takes a while to delete packages [12:11] same version with some more changes [12:11] ok.. [12:11] just upload a ~lucid1~ppa2 (assuming your first was ~lucid1~ppa1) [12:12] Riddell: ok.. but when launchpad deletes the original ones... [12:12] what do i do :P === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [12:13] you will still have the new ones uploaded [12:13] ok.. [12:18] Riddell: ok just uploaded kdeartwork for lucid... with changed build dep,should build now.. [12:20] Riddell: can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeartwork/ubuntu/+merge/26019 if youre free [12:25] shadeslayer: aurorae is a kwin style isn't it? [12:25] yes, the description says that [12:25] :) [12:26] shadeslayer: was it considered to put those files in kdeartwork-theme-window? (not saying that's the right thing to do just wondering if it was a concious decision not to) [12:26] Riddell: well we had a discussion yesterday [12:27] and lex told me to put it that way :) [12:27] ooh let's not argue with lex then [12:27] I'll merge it in [12:27] oh wait [12:27] Riddell: one sec [12:28] Riddell: it was ScottK and Jontheechidna [12:29] well I'm certainly not arguing with them, that echidna has spikes on his back! [12:29] hehe [12:30] shadeslayer: 4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~ppa1 is wrong though, should be 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1 [12:31] debian and ubuntu version parts get reset when doing new upstream versions [12:31] hmm.. so i should change and upload... but then launchpad will complain of versioning [12:32] no one told me that yesterday though :P [12:32] shadeslayer: don't worry about the upload, it's only a private PPA, the final upload will use the correct version [12:32] shadeslayer: merged! you are now a kubuntu ninja. have a black belt [12:32] \o/ [12:32] Riddell: thanks :) [12:33] Riddell: ok and i should leave the package as it is for now right? [12:34] yes [12:36] oh noes.. FTBFS >< [12:37] Riddell: hehe : https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1757113/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kdeartwork_4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [12:40] seems like lucid needs some work in the PPA [12:42] yep.. [12:42] Riddell: weird that it cant find most of the packages,when they are in the ppa itself [12:54] Riddell: i think the problem is in kdebase-workspace... [12:54] not sure though [12:55] ah both kdelibs and kdebase dont have lucid packages [12:55] Riddell: both kdelibs and kdebase dont have lucid packages [13:01] Riddell: im sure that this is causing it : kdebase-workspace-dev (>= 4:4.4) : we dont have kdebase workspace 4.4 in main :P [13:01] doh! [13:02] ignore that :P === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [13:34] Rekonq 0.5 beta is looking spiffy (after I fixed the fonts, at any rate) http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktophc1463-jpg.jpg [13:35] eww @ jpeg compression, tho [13:35] (ksnapshot's fault, not rekonq's) [13:35] hi JontheEchidna, care to do some more sponsoring? :) [13:36] debfx: I could. Thinking about it we probably missed some cmake stuff for things that depend on kdebase-workspace-dev but not cmake, too [13:36] JontheEchidna, Quintasan: only root can change full name with chfn -f "Foo Bar" So we still need the patch. [13:37] JontheEchidna: yeah I noticed that too [13:37] fixes are at the bottom of https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDECMakeBuildDependTransition [13:37] ok. Let me upload kdeaccessibility to -ninjas and I'll get on that [13:37] and some more debdiff at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QtWebKitBuildDependTransition [13:38] thanks === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [13:41] [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100526124114-jx9m9t82vyvsrn1q * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed) [13:41] * New upstream release: - Bump kde-sc-dev-latest build-depend version to 4.4.80 [13:41] - Update kde-icons-mono.install - Update kttsd.install * Switch to source format [13:52] debfx: I get FTBFS for kdesudo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439874/ [13:54] JontheEchidna: i think the docbook needs to pass through EBN [13:56] JontheEchidna: http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/sanitizer/?component=kde-4.x [13:57] shadeslayer: kdesudo's not in KDE svn [13:57] JontheEchidna: well you can just upload the docbook.. [13:57] the page isn't loading :( [13:58] hmm... weird.. same thing here [13:59] i think... its down :( [14:01] debfx: If you'll say that it pbuilt with a maverick pbuilder I'll believe you. I am pbuilding against a KDE 4.5 ppa [14:01] JontheEchidna: yeah, builds fine for me [14:02] debfx: can you look at this : https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1757113 ? [14:02] idk why it fails [14:02] shadeslayer: "Not allowed here" [14:02] debfx: oh.. [14:03] debfx: try this : https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1757113/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kdeartwork_4:4.4.80-1ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:04] shadeslayer: It's a private ppa [14:04] JontheEchidna: so even the logs are not visible? [14:04] yeah [14:05] :( [14:05] debfx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439878/ [14:06] shadeslayer: you gotta wait for kdebae-workspace to build in the ppa [14:06] +s [14:07] once it's there, you can hit the rebuild button [14:07] JontheEchidna: the lucid release right? i though so.. [14:09] ubuntu.com just changed its looks :D [14:09] * JontheEchidna notes that we, sadly, haven't :( [14:10] JontheEchidna: yeah... were still following the wiki style... [14:10] that handheld looks pretty awesome with ubuntu on it... [14:13] * shadeslayer goes to download Lost S6 Ep 17 [14:15] BugDay tomorrow is epiphany browser [14:15] anything we want to do? === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [14:17] kopete memory leak! [14:17] txwikinger: ^ [14:17] :) [14:18] rgreening: bug triage? [14:19] txwikinger: rekonq? [14:19] would be good to get a feel for what the issues are with that [14:20] rekonq has no open bugs :D [14:20] Riddell: there aint alot of bugs on LP about rekonq :P [14:20] bugs.kde.org has some though [14:20] * JontheEchidna reported a rekonq one to b.k.o a few minutes ago [14:20] JontheEchidna: id? [14:20] Riddell: yeah good idea.. are there already bugs for it in launchpad? [14:21] well.. if they are in b.k.o we do not need to have a bug day for it [14:21] kontact/kmail? [14:21] I bet there are lots of bugs for kontact/kmail [14:21] ya [14:21] ok.. lets take that then [14:21] or kopete :P [14:21] yep. either of those would be good or amarok [14:21] that mandatory tab preview thingy in rekonq is a bit annoying. I might file a wishlist report for that [14:22] JontheEchidna: ++++ [14:22] :) [14:22] hahaha [14:22] and the fact you cant remove preview items [14:22] hi there, I'm trying to investigate a ktorrent plasmoid memory leak, does anyone know where I can find the libbtcore api or documentation? where does it come from? (google ain't too helpful) [14:22] it slows things down too, when you just want to change tabs [14:22] i think rekonq looks better in gnome... [14:23] * rgreening thinks gnome looks better in qt [14:23] hehe :) [14:23] well all i needed to do was reduce font size... [14:24] * txwikinger agrees with rgreening [14:24] amichair: normally you'd probably find it at api.kde.org, but it is down at the moment [14:24] * txwikinger did a Fedora13 testdrive yesterday [14:25] JontheEchidna: is libbtcore part of kde, or an external lib? I have all of kde checked out and don't see it [14:25] * rgreening slaps txwikinger for touching that [14:25] :) [14:25] rgreening: industrial espionage :p [14:25] was boring anyway [14:25] lol [14:25] amichair: it's a library originating from ktorrent, but if it has doxygen api documentation then api.kde.org will have it [14:25] since it's in KDE svn [14:26] amichair: libbtcore is part of ktorrent [14:26] I doubt it has any docs on api.k.o [14:27] * amichair feels silly looking at ktorrent svn checkout and still not seeing it [14:27] englishbreakfastnetwork has docs for playground, if they're present [14:28] amichair: recently ktorrent split off some libs into a libktorrent, so that might be why you're having a hard time [14:28] ah, I was just about to ask if they renamed it to libktcore or that's something else [14:30] oh now I see there's both a libktcore and libktorrent... but the latter indeed seems to be the place [14:30] JontheEchidna, Riddell: Thanks! [14:30] (it's a helluva memory leak, about 1M/minute here) [14:31] heh [14:31] I installed it to see the work I did there a year ago (only now caught up to the kubuntu distribution version, I guess), and after leaving it overnight saw plasma-desktop taking up hundreds of megs [14:32] oh well [14:32] we'll plug'em one at a time :-) [14:32] :) [14:52] Riddell: in which package should the translation of rekonq go in maverick? [14:53] there will also be translations of the documentation [14:54] .po files can go in the rekonq package, they'll get stripped anyway [14:56] documentation translations probably in a separate package [14:56] Riddell: should we also ship an separate data package? [14:57] and I also have an -dbg package in the daily repro [14:57] There's not enough data right not to justify a -data package atm, imo. Once we get translations we'll probably have a rekonq-l10n package [14:58] *doc translations [14:58] separate data packages only exist to keep the archive size down, I don't think there's enough data to justify that [14:58] bulldog98: have you spoked to debfx about the packaging? [14:58] Riddell: not by now [14:59] debfx: what about packaging rekonq in the offical repro? [15:00] I guess he's not awake yet but he's been doing the packaging in debian presumably with the aim of getting it synced in kubuntu [15:00] ok [15:01] then it would be fine if I speek with him about that if he’s back [15:01] but that will propably be tomorrow, cause I’ve got few time today === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [15:07] * shadeslayer heads over the wiki to start on another package [15:08] Riddell: what do the --- represent in the wiki? [15:08] shadeslayer: that there's nothing to do for those (no new release, etc) [15:09] ah ok... [15:09] ill take kde-games then :) [15:09] check for any new dependency on gluon there [15:10] Riddell: sure.. i think gluon is already in the archive.. right? [15:14] Riddell: oh btw version should have -0ubuntu1 right? [15:17] Riddell: apparently someone just made a empty patch folder :P [15:17] shadeslayer: yes, new upstream versions == go back to 0ubuntu1. [15:18] JontheEchidna: can i remove the empty patch folder? [15:18] shadeslayer: yeah [15:18] follow Debian's packaging (unless good reason not to) [15:19] okies [15:21] Change QtCurve by Oxygen-Molecule theme in Kcm-gtk, it is better [15:22] Oxygen-Molecule doesn't follow colorschemes, it's a pixmap theme engine [15:22] JontheEchidna: btw im trying to add ktown in dolphin,what port number do i need? [15:22] also what user name? [15:22] shadeslayer: dunno about port, but the username is ftpubuntu [15:23] ah ok [15:24] ubuntu's new site is up [15:24] oh and QtCurve does it, JontheEchidna? I didn't know [15:25] EagleScreen_: yeah, QtCurve supports color schemes. [15:25] following the KDE settings [15:25] * Riddell uploads kipi-plugins [15:25] okay, good reason to keeo it [15:26] It would be nice if QtCurve was more pixel-perfect, I will admit [15:32] bulldog98: rekonq is sitting in debian NEW [15:33] we won't see that for a few weeks then ;) [15:34] Unless we pull some strings. [15:35] Riddell: rekonq just released 0.5 beta.. in case you guys didnt know :P [15:35] but of course.. you know everything :P [15:35] shadeslayer: already in maverick ;) [15:35] :P [15:36] debfx: you should show bulldog98 where the svn is for the packaging so the distro packaging and daily packging can be kept in sync [15:36] Hey, wiki.kubuntu.org's SSL info shows up correctly with 0.4.90 [15:37] score [15:37] JontheEchidna: do we need readme.packagers with 3.0 ... [15:38] hehe.. it seems to say Corrupt in git [15:38] shadeslayer: README.source went away because it described how to use quilt, but with source format 3.0 the patches are automatically applied when the source package is unpacked [15:38] ok... so keep other README files... [15:38] README.packagers are what upstream usually uses to give packagers info, and isn't generally in the debian dir [15:39] is this REAME.packagers in the debian dir? [15:39] JontheEchidna: no [15:39] shadeslayer: definitely leave it alone. We don't want to touch upstream stuff without a patch system [15:39] :P [15:40] bulldog98: the debian rekonq package lives in svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-kde/kde-extras/rekonq/trunk/debian/ [15:40] bulldog98: viewvc frontend: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/rekonq/trunk/debian/ [15:40] or just open in dolphin :P [15:41] Riddell: seems to be working without gluon for now.. but then again its just started LO [15:41] :P [15:41] shadeslayer: what does the cmake output say? [15:42] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439917/ [15:42] well its optional.. [15:43] KDE has squillions of optional dependencies, we like to make use of them unless there's a good reason not to [15:44] so probably a good idea to check out the state of our gluon packaging and twisted too [15:44] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439918/ [15:44] Riddell: we have gluon in the ppa.. ill check out twisted [15:45] !info python-twisted maverick [15:45] python-twisted (source: twisted): Event-based framework for internet applications (transitional package). In component main, is extra. Version 10.0.0-2ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 11 kB, installed size 92 kB [15:47] Riddell: gluon is only in the ppa,not in the official archives,so i guess we either push for a new package in archives or leave gluon... [15:47] ill try out a debuild with twisted till then [15:47] shadeslayer: we can get it into the main archive [15:48] so do add it to the PPA, we'll want to add it at some point, may as well make that point now [15:48] Riddell: twisted has unmet deps [15:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/439920/ [15:50] some version skew going on somewhere [15:50] !info python-twisted-conch maverick [15:50] python-twisted-conch (source: twisted-conch): The Twisted SSH Implementation. In component main, is extra. Version 1:10.0.0-3 (maverick), package size 257 kB, installed size 1496 kB [15:53] shadeslayer: looks like twisted-conch is expecting a newer version of twisted, might be time for you to get into twisted packaging :) [15:54] bah... i dont that much time :P [15:54] is the newer version of twisted-conch in debian? if so can it be merged and uploaded to ubuntu [15:54] alas packaging is not always a quick business [15:54] Riddell: lets check it out :) [15:55] wheres the upload queue of debian> [15:55] use packages.debian.org [15:56] heh.. its at 8.1.0 :P [15:56] so it's probably a bug in the ubuntu packaging of twisted [15:56] making it have too tight a depends on twisted-conch [15:56] oh thats only lenny [15:57] http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-twisted-conch [15:57] same thing in debian :( [15:57] http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-twisted that's the one you need [15:57] so merge that with the python-twisted in ubuntu [15:58] hmm.. merge.. ill have to ask for one.. [15:59] or just do it yourself [15:59] Riddell: how? [15:59] ill have to read up on it :P [16:00] !merge [16:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging [16:00] grab the ubuntu package, grab the debian package [16:01] work out what's been changed in the ubuntu package [16:01] Riddell: from the changelog [16:01] yes [16:01] make that same change to the debian package [16:01] merge the changelogs [16:01] voila [16:01] aha! [16:01] i now know merging :P [16:02] Riddell: i should just dget the file right? [16:02] fregl: o/ [16:02] lo everyone [16:03] apachelogger: hi! [16:03] fregl: I committed all sorts of goodness to the plasma theme just now [16:03] * fregl huggles apachelogger [16:03] apachelogger: what plasma theme? :P [16:03] shadeslayer: yes [16:04] * apachelogger rehuggles fregl [16:04] shadeslayer: for fluffy [16:04] * apachelogger needs to leave for travelling to Graz in less than an hour :( [16:04] apachelogger: ah :) [16:04] apachelogger: your installer slideshow in german on the cd you gave me is most horrible [16:04] my oh my [16:04] Riddell: wheee... package.ubuntu.com shows no package for python-twisted [16:05] that said, I never did a german install [16:05] * apachelogger takes note to run translated installs too [16:05] launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-twisted knows all [16:05] Riddell: dpm is on that annoyance of fregl's? [16:05] fregl: I forwarded your e-mail to dpm [16:05] ah :) [16:05] Riddell: thanks :) [16:05] Riddell: i get : Lost something? [16:05] shadeslayer: p.u.c isn't updated to work for maverick yet. [16:05] * fregl hugs Riddell also [16:05] so I expect he's whipping appropriate arses right now [16:06] * apachelogger puts on that very special smile of his ^^ [16:06] Riddell: nvm [16:06] shadeslayer: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/twisted [16:06] ScottK: ok [16:06] Riddell: yeah found it :P [16:08] seaLne: pingy ... for the kde mm + edu sprint last week we created #kde-sprinters, I was thinking that maybe it should be registered and reused for other sprints, what do you think about that? [16:09] fregl, apachelogger, after Riddell forwarded me the e-mail, I contacted the German translation team to look into it. fregl, you did the right thing in submitting the suggestions for the corrections. In the future though, you can contact the translation team directly at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-de (not that I mind if you tell me or Riddell as well, just letting you know that you can talk to them directly) [16:11] Riddell: btw whats a debdiff? [16:12] shadeslayer: a diff created between debian source packages [16:12] it is a special app too [16:12] debdiff --help [16:12] ah ok [16:12] comparing file lists in 2 packages :) [16:13] no no [16:13] debian _source_ package [16:13] not the binary deb [16:13] it can also compare binaries [16:13] ah, it can? [16:13] * apachelogger didnt know ^^ [16:13] dpm: thanks :) I just know Riddell, so I talked to him [16:14] and finding out who to contact is time that I don't really have [16:14] * nixternal whistles a tune while waiting for the stats to produce a darn report [16:15] apachelogger: well thats what the man page says :) [16:15] fregl: btw, I was thinking that we maybe should go with a panel after all, I kind of loose track of time too easily without a clock that is visible at all times ^^ [16:15] apachelogger: +1 for having a pink panel [16:15] as long as it's fluffy enough [16:16] fluffy it is alright [16:16] I was thinking about having a straight border in the non-composited case too, so it doesn't look as crappy [16:16] *nod* [16:16] Riddell: ah theres only one different entry.. [16:17] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/439931/ [16:18] shadeslayer: there must be an accompanying change in debian/ which actually did what the changelog describes [16:18] apachelogger: hmm, i think previously sprints have just used there "normal" irc channel? [16:18] that's what needs ported over to the new debian package (assuming the new debian package isn't for the same reason) [16:19] Riddell: actually the script which rebuilds the cache is in the debian package as well [16:19] shadeslayer: ah then maybe we can just sync from debian [16:19] Riddell: seems so [16:20] seaLne: that generates noise if you want to fool around and stuff, I think having a seperate channel you can flood with sprint related stuff is good, at least we also had a lot of fun because of the channel ^^ [16:20] Riddell: all the contents of debian/ in both the packages seem to be same [16:21] shadeslayer: this seems different http://paste.ubuntu.com/439935/ [16:22] Riddell: yeah i was going through that [16:22] Riddell: mine is like http://paste.ubuntu.com/439936/ [16:22] a bit differently formatted :P [16:23] diff -u is your friend, diff is always better with a -u [16:23] Riddell: ok so im applying the same thing to the debian package [16:24] groovy [16:24] merge in the ubuntu changelog entries at the appropriate place [16:24] dch -i and add a -3ubuntu1 changelog entry saying [16:24] merge with debian, remaining change: [16:24] - whatever the change is [16:25] debuild -S and get the files to me for upload [16:25] you can also build it locally if you want to crack on with kdegames before it's built in the archive [16:26] dudes: looks like we have these merges still to do for main.. [16:26]