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paissadhi all, i would like to retreive the public key of the ppa/compiz repository01:29
paissadi did "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 42C24D89", but the server seems down  or unreachable01:29
paissadhttps://launchpad.net/~compiz/+archive/ppa01:29
paissadis there another way to retreive the public key ?01:30
paissadso that i do something like this --> cat <<"eof" | sudo apt-key add -01:30
paissadthanks in advance for helping ...01:30
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nxvlhello, a couple of scripts just got broken because of a call to import launchpadbugs, which use to come with python-launchpad-bugs package that isn't present in lucid07:22
nxvlany idea why?07:22
nxvlare there any docs on what should i change in my scripts to make them work again07:22
lifelessI'm ont sure07:26
lifelessperhaps launchpadbugs was screen scraping07:26
lifelessand you should switch to launchpadlib now ?07:26
nxvlyeah i assume the same, but there should be any bug report or something about that07:27
lifelesspresumably the bug requesting removal of python-launchpad-bugs would say07:37
geserpaissad: use one of the many other available keyservers07:39
wgrantnxvl: python-launchpad-bugs has been deprecated for years.07:41
wgrantA launchpadlib port of your scripts should be reasonably easy.07:41
nxvlwgrant: it was in the archive for karmic07:41
geser"upstream authors say the project is dead and the package doesn't work in Lucid anyway (LP: #552953)"07:41
nxvlok, thanks!07:41
wgrantnxvl: Yes, but it had been deprecated for a very long time.07:41
nxvlwill try to check tht07:41
nxvlthat*07:41
om26erwhat do I do if I want a package to be build(in my ppa) for two different versions of ubuntu07:53
maxbIs there any nicer way in launchpadlib to get the ID of a SPPH to be able to call getBuildSummariesForSourceIds, other than spph.self_link.split('/')[-1] ?09:10
noodles775maxb: No... that method was originally added for some AJAX work where the SPPH ids were already present on the page. I'm not sure why (in this specific case) we wouldn't just expose the id... do we have a policy against this?09:12
maxbI suppose I could iterate the builds for the SPPH and summarize them myself, but I'd rather not do gratuitiously more roundtrips09:13
maxbSee this is why I haven't bothered to port my screenscraper to the API until now. It's ~250% slower09:36
maxb:-(09:36
bigjoolsurgh09:58
bigjoolsmaxb: did you file a bug describing the functionality you want?09:59
jetienneq. i deleted all my packages from the ppa, and it still show im using 136mbyte ... how come ? https://launchpad.net/~jerome-etienne/+archive/neoip/+packages10:03
jetienne0 source packages (132.5 MiB) 0 binary packages (3.7 MiB) <- this is what is on the page10:06
bigjoolsjetienne: you need to wait for the packages to be deleted from the repository area, it's not instant10:06
jetiennebigjools: not instant = how long ? minutes? hours? days?10:07
bigjoolsgood question, I can't remember!10:07
jetienneok :)à10:08
cjwatsonNormally branch format upgrades I request through the UI happen within minutes.  I requested an upgrade of lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/partman-partitioning/ubuntu last night before I went to bed, and it's still pending.  Is something stuck?10:11
bigjoolsthumper: still around?  ^^10:14
thumpercjwatson: how big is the branch?10:16
thumpercjwatson: alternatively, the upgrade script operates in serial10:16
thumpercjwatson: there could be a big branch before you10:16
cjwatson<cjwatson@sarantium ~/src/ubuntu/partman-partitioning>$ du -cs .bzr10:16
cjwatson1752    .bzr10:16
cjwatsonmust be honking enormous10:16
cjwatsonI wouldn't have asked except that this is approximately six hundred times longer than it's taken in the recent past :-)10:17
thumper-cs means?10:18
* thumper doesn't run that very much10:18
cjwatsonhabit.  the output is in kilobytes10:18
thumper1.7 meg?10:18
cjwatsonyes10:18
thumperthat isn't that big10:18
* thumper looks at the log file10:18
mwhudsonha ha, like that will tell you anything10:19
mwhudson:(10:19
thumperuseless bloody log file10:20
thumperit will say more once my other branch lands10:20
thumpercjwatson: sorry, can't tell right now10:21
cjwatsonwhen should I ask again?10:21
jetiennebigjools: fyi the deleted space got updated in less than 15min10:21
bigjoolsjetienne: great10:21
cjwatsonput another way, would a LOSA be able to tell whether it's stuck?10:31
lifelessyes10:31
lifelesswhen they wake up10:31
lifelessthey are sprinting this week10:31
cjwatsonok10:32
lifelesswe are losaless10:32
paolobHi guys! A launchpad user set his user name as a terrible blasphemy in italian. What should we do in order to get it changed?10:48
paolobhttps://launchpad.net/~b1130560 is his account10:48
lifelesshave you tried talking to him ?10:53
paolobI've sent him a email now.10:56
paolobbut has launchpad some respect guidelines?10:58
cooloneyhi guys, is that possible for us to remove my initial upload to a PPA?11:01
cooloneysince my first upload build failed, i am planning to upload again but don;t wanna to change my version number11:01
bigjoolscooloney: no you can't do that.  Ideally you should check your build works before you upload11:04
cooloneybigjools: it is weird, because my build locally works and people tested my build on their hardware11:06
cooloneybigjools: then i upload it to PPA11:06
cooloneybut it build failed11:06
cooloneyso i fixed it in my local package and wanna upload again11:06
cooloneyit was rejected11:06
maxblosa: loggerhead appears broken11:07
cooloneybigjools: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Deleting11:07
cooloneybigjools: how about this? ^^^11:07
maxbYou can delete packages, you can't delete the metadata that records that that version is used11:07
noodles775cooloney: did you build it locally using pbuilder (or equiv. stripped down build environment)... I'm surprised if it failed on the PPA but built in pbuilder.11:07
maxbThis is good. It would be confusing if it was allowed11:07
cooloneyoh, my package is a kernel package for ti-omap4 hardware11:08
cjwatsonversion numbers are cheap11:08
cooloneyso i just built it locally by normal kernel building method11:08
cooloneycjwatson: ok, looks like i have to bump my ABI11:09
cjwatsoneven in kernel packaging land, bumping your version does not mean bumping your ABI11:09
cooloneycjwatson: i am new to the packaging version. so how to bump my verision without touch my ABI?11:10
cjwatson2.6.34-4.11 - "2.6.34-4" is the ABI, you can bump "11" at will11:12
cjwatsonthough I assume you also have something like ~ppa1 as a suffix or whatever11:12
cjwatsonanyway, ask your colleagues on the kernel team, they've done this before11:12
cooloneycjwatson: ok, thanks a lot.11:13
cjwatson(btw this is purely a kernel convention, no other package works this way)11:15
jetienneq. ppa builder are ok now ? yesterday i had like 20min of queuing top... and currently i got one package which is queing since 1h50m and is estimated to start in 44m11:58
bigjoolsjetienne: the load on the build farm and the number of available builders is constantly changing11:59
bigjoolsthis will affect your waiting times11:59
jetiennebigjools: so those kind of variations are normal. an average has been measured ?12:00
bigjoolsjetienne: an average for what?12:01
jetiennebigjools: of the queuing time. like if you push a new version, on average it gonna start building in X min*12:01
bigjoolsjetienne: we keep some stats internally, I don't know if that's one of them off-hand12:02
jetiennebigjools: ok thanks12:02
bigjoolsbut we do base the build ETAs on the previous build times for all the packages in the queue12:03
bigjoolsbut if one of the packages is new then it's total guess work12:03
jetiennebigjools: i understand. just trying to see how i could organize my work.12:04
bigjoolsjetienne: sure, ok12:05
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slytherinCan anyone please tell me what does the 'package' corresponds to on this link https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gnusim8085/trunk/+lang/de12:54
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stickystyleIs  there any kind of markup that can be used in reporting bugs in launchpad?  Such as <code> ?14:28
bilalakhtarLP bugs timeouts are reocurring right now.14:45
intellectronicabilalakhtar: do you have a url of an example bug that times out for you?14:55
intellectronicaor even better, an OOPS number?14:56
bilalakhtarintellectronica: It occurs randomly14:56
bilalakhtarintellectronica: Just a min, will recreate that14:56
intellectronicabilalakhtar: when you get a timeout, it will be good to paste an OOPS here. that way we can check why it timed out14:57
bilalakhtarintellectronica: ok14:57
bulldog98could an admin look in this PPA if the packages were deleted? https://edge.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/+archive/invertika/+packages14:58
bulldog98would be nice if he would delete them then, thanks14:58
bilalakhtarintellectronica: Good, It is fine now.14:59
grizlurkHi, I am trying to fill bug report/questions via launchpad.net and I keep getting timeout error. Any other way to fill a report than the website?15:50
jjardonHello, I'd like to update the info from: https://launchpad.net/gtk15:54
jjardonHow can I do that?15:54
jcastrojjardon: I can update things, what do you need?16:07
marktheunissenhi team16:08
marktheunisseni'm seeing an issue where commits from a certain user are not appearing the comments/commits feed on a merge proposal16:08
marktheunissenany ideas why that may happen?16:08
jjardonhey jcastro, set the branch of developemt, the stable branch, obsolete. Also set the branding, maybe some announcement16:08
marktheunissenthe commits are simply skipped16:08
jjardonjcastro, something like  https://launchpad.net/glade-316:09
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jcastrojjardon: ugh, I can't seem to be able to figure out how to do any of that16:23
jcastroAlso, lp still apparently doesn't resize images for branding/icons. Really.16:23
jjardonjcastro, I used gimp to resize glade-3 images ;)16:27
jjardonjcastro, I can create some images for GTK+ if you want16:27
jcastrojjardon: let's do this since you've been around long enough. I've made you admin, fix what you need. :)16:29
jcastrothen when you're done hand it back over to the registry16:29
sinzuiyou do not need to give it back to the registry if you want to maintain the lp information16:30
jjardonjcastro, oh, thanks a lot ;)16:31
jjardonyeah, I'll mantain the lp info if you want16:32
jcastrojjardon: you seem to be the best person to maintain it anyway. <316:34
* jjardon blushes :)16:38
grizlurkHi, I am trying to fill bug reports/questions via launchpad.net and I keep getting timeout error. Any other way to fill a report than the website?16:45
bullgardEvery time when I am going to send an error message to Launchpad, I received during the last three times: "Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad." Last time I needed to wait almost 24 hours reading: "Trying again in a couple of minutes might work." Just now It's 3 hours yet and no end to be seen of it. -- Who does a bad job here?16:52
bullgard(Error ID: OOPS-1607E2129)16:57
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1607E212916:57
sinzuijjardon, ping16:58
jjardonsinzui, pong16:58
sinzuijjardon, I just remembered that by taking gtk, you may become the victim of bug spam16:59
sinzuijjardon, I am working on a policy change to not send bug mails to project maintainer when the project *does not* use launchpad bugs.17:00
sinzuijjardon, if you get spammed, feel free to return it to ~registry.17:00
xnoxTHANK YOU  =)))))17:01
jjardonsinzui, I'm already a bug contact of gtk bugs, so no problems ;)17:01
* xnox off to test branch recipes =)17:02
GarrettS-Montreaare there any Canonical LOSAs here today?17:02
sinzuijjardon, you are either brave or your inbox is /dev/null There17:02
jjardonhehe17:02
jjardonwell, not a lot of bugs are filled agains GTK+17:03
jjardongenerally are filled against apps17:03
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jjardonlp:gtk launchap is only a mirror of master upstream branch, rigth?17:11
jjardonupstream, we have a branch for each release: gtk-2-20 ... etc ..17:12
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sinzuiyes master should be the focus of development17:12
sinzui^ jjardon We want to automate builds from tip, so it is fine to have many series, but the series that is an import of master must be the focus of development17:14
jjardonmmm17:14
jjardonthere is a problem here17:14
jjardoncurrent gtk master is towards GTK+317:14
jjardonShould I create another project for this?17:15
sinzuino17:15
jjardonMaybe https://launchpad.net/gtk3/17:15
sinzuijjardon, We really only want one project. The problem here is that Lp does not have a clear way of dealing with leading and and trailing series17:16
sinzuijjardon, Ubuntu's development series is built from the GTK and GNOME development series (tip, master, trunk, head)17:17
jjardonsinzui, note that GTK+3 will have a gtk+-3.0 package17:17
jjardonThis is because GTK+3 will break the abi and the api17:18
sinzuiyes, but that does not mean it is a new project17:18
jjardonok17:19
sinzui We want a 2x series and a master series (3x) and both will provide packages for Ubuntu17:19
jjardontrue17:19
sinzuiI think most project use trailing series where they build in tip, then fork/cut/tag the series for maintenance.17:20
sinzuiWhen Ubuntu hits beta1, GNOME and GTK will be creating the 3.x branches17:20
xnoxFor gcc i did get 4 imports approved17:21
xnoxcurrently there are imports running for lp:gcc (trunk) lp:gcc/4.5 lp:gcc/4.4 & lp:gcc/4.317:22
xnoxand then you will be able to use recipes to build any of them17:22
jjardonsinzui, no, no 3.x branch will be created until GTK+3 is released17:22
sinzuijjardon, We never settled on a policy for this situation. It is a lot of work to create a series for each stable GNOME/GTK. We certainly do need to do this for 3x17:22
xnoxsinzui, you really need 3 series "trunk 2 3"17:22
xnoxand series can point to the same branch17:23
sinzuino, because that breaks milestones17:23
sinzuixnox, milestones/releases are unique to the project and that is also key to understanding that there is one project with one trunk17:24
xnoxtrue then you can just have "2 3" series with appropriate milestones and a dev-focus pointing to one or the other17:24
xnoxthen you will end up with lp:gtk lp:gtk/2 lp:gtk/317:24
xnoxand you milestones can only live in the "2" or "3" series17:25
xnoxsinzui, look at launchpad.net/bzr17:25
xnoxor launchpad.net/lp17:25
sinzuixnox, milestone/release 3.0 can only exist once. if we choose to not place milestones on trunk, then there is no issue. Users often do place milestones on trunk that get stuck17:25
xnoxsinzui, forget about "trunk" series. Just delete it.17:25
sinzuixnox, bzr uses leading series. it is not a good model since FreeDesktop, GTK, and GNOME are using trailing series17:26
sinzuiNo the name is not important, but there must be a series that is a mirror of master set as the focus of development17:26
xnoxsinzui, damnit you are right. I thought you can set "dev-focus" to any branch. But you can only set particular series to become "dev-focus" e.g. lp:gtk17:28
xnoxthat's a pain.17:28
xnoxsorry for the noise.17:28
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sinzuixnox, yes, it is a pain :(17:29
xnoxit looks like you will need to keep trunk series - replica of the master and _not_ do any milestones/releases on it17:29
xnoxshame17:29
xnoxsinzui, there is another approach =) not to use series/releases at all17:30
xnoxrequest as many imports as you want into lp:~vsc-imports/gtk/XX.Y17:30
xnoxand use those for automatic builds =)17:30
sinzuiThe series abstraction has flaws. I do not know how to solve them. Part of the problem is the upsteam mindset. A lot of projects use DVCS-branch model like svn17:30
xnoxfor my project is easy =) we only have trunk & tags. And we don't do point release updates =)17:31
xnoxQuestion about recipe-building on launchpad: Does it append Ubuntu series?17:32
xnoxname/version17:32
sinzuixnox, I do not know, but I think abentley does17:32
abentleyxnox, yes, it will.17:33
jjardonGTK+ and lot of GNOME projects has branches for each release17:33
xnoxabentley, well I left the version number as 3.1.3-3~{revno}~ and I'll see what will happen in 3hours =)17:34
abentleyxnox, it will fail.  The feature doesn't work yet.17:34
xnoxabentley, so it's just the UI & scheduling implemented? =( at least I can setup all of my recipes =)17:35
abentleyxnox, yes, the actual building doesn't work yet.  There are holes that need to be punched in firewalls, etc.17:37
GarrettS-MontreaChex , mbarnett , spm ... around?17:45
xnoxabentley, I'll be waiting for it =)17:45
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jjardonok, all the GTK+ info updated.17:52
xnoxabentley, will firewalls get punched wtih 10.5 release?17:56
abentleyxnox, it should be sooner than that.17:56
xnoxok thanks17:56
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ftai38612 670 jobs (5 hours 50 minutes)  ??? doing old hardy builds??18:16
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zelazhello, I've been looking through documentation and can't figure this out: I have a branch hosted on launchpad.  i started coding on machine X, and pushed it to launchpad18:45
zelazthat was successful.  then, I made a few revisions on machine X, did a commit and then a push, that worked also18:45
zelazthen, i copied the files over to another machine, and began working there, NOT as a branch... let's call that machine Y18:46
bilalakhtarzelaz: It would be better if you branch that branch into that machine18:46
zelaznow machine Y has the same code as my branch.. in the three files that are the same... but then I added a lot of files to machine Y's code directory18:46
zelazso if I created another branch on launchpad, with that code, by doing a push to myproject/new ... so i try to do a merge from myproject/new to myrpoject/trunk18:48
zelazif i am merging to divergent branches, one with 3 files, the other has the same 3 files (modified) plus another 200 files, how are the additions 'merged' into the first branch19:14
zelazhello bilal19:18
zelazso what you were saying before, is that you recommend i do the merging entirely on my local machine?19:18
zelazissue is that the *new* branch has 200+ new files19:18
zelazplus the original 3 files that have changed19:19
zelazwhen i do the merge on launchpad, the 3 existing files are updated, but the new files are not added19:20
zelazerror: these branches have diverged19:22
maxbzelaz: Do you have more than one revision in the second branch?19:30
maxbIf not, it would be simplest to simply disregard the fact that it is a branch, and copy that tree over a checkout of the first branch, and commmit19:30
maxbOr, is the issue that you have worthwhile history in both branches?19:31
zelazno worthwhile history19:44
zelazi just want to add the new files to my branch19:45
zelazand have bzr/lp accept those new files as now new files19:45
godbykI received this email about two hours ago:19:46
godbyk"On 2010-05-26 15:00z (50 minutes ago), you uploaded a translation19:46
godbyktemplate for ubuntu-manual in Ubuntu Manual lucid-e1 in Launchpad."19:46
godbykBut I see no reason why the translation template was updated.  There have been no commits recently that seem relevant.19:46
godbykAny ideas?19:46
zelazi thought that by copying the files over into my pulled from trunk branch, and doing a bzr add ./ & then bzr commit -m 'comment' , and then pushing to the trunk on LP would work...19:48
zelazonly the updated file's changed were captured though, not the addition of new files19:48
zelazall i'm told is 'has conflicts' are the 'conflicts' listed anywhere?19:55
beunozelaz, bzr conflicts19:56
zelazthis is on launchpad though19:58
zelazbzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged.  See "bzr help diverged-branches" for more information.19:59
zelazrunning bzr conflicts returns nothing20:00
MethsWhat does 'bzr st' show?20:09
maxbzelaz: copying and bzr add was the right thing to do20:30
maxbI don't think you can make merge work for this scenario very well20:30
zelaz:( problem is, that I did bzr add, and commited on my local20:47
zelazbut then when i push to LP, the trunk doesn't have the new files20:47
maxbzelaz: this indicates you didn't actually add&commit everything21:08
zelazmaxb, you are more correct than you know!21:19
zelazi'm not sure exactly where i messed up, I did, starting with a fresh branched trunk, copying in files add commit and push worked just fine :)21:24
zelazthank you for being sanity checks ;)21:24
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