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knomeDarth_Tux, no, the ntfs partition would still be broken if that is the case now.00:07
knomegood night->00:15
Nemo296Hi02:53
Nemo296I need some advice for Xubuntu, I'm new to it.02:54
ochosi!hi03:14
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!03:14
fabjoa_mwozhola03:33
fabjoa_mwozmy task list is invisible, any idea why?03:34
fabjoa_mwozit's here, i can click on it but it doesnt show on the screen03:37
fabjoa_mwozcool i found how to do it, i didnt know there was a restart panel function03:41
fabjoa_mwozi love xubuntu03:42
vnheya, since I went from karmic to lucid, no sound..anyone can give me a lead on how to solve this problem?04:35
likemindeadPossible answers here, vn -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146725104:36
vnthanks04:37
vnremove purge and reinstall from that page did it, thanks!04:54
razerdoes anyone know how to get xfree86 keyboard shortcuts to work in xfce?05:49
visitor1, i installed xsane form the ubuntu package manager, but when i start xsane it says no devices avaiable but the scanner is connected and i can print with it08:06
visitor1hi people, need help to get a canon mp640 under xubuntu 10.04 working,i downloaded the latest sane from the sane webpage and i did ./configure, make,make install08:06
visitor1hi people, need help to get a canon mp640 under xubuntu 10.04 working,i downloaded the latest sane from the sane webpage and i did ./configure, make,make install08:06
visitor1, i installed xsane form the ubuntu package manager, but when i start xsane it says no devices avaiable but the scanner is connected and i can print with it08:06
visitor1any way to use single click on desktop?08:48
well_laid_lawnnot afaik visitor1 ...08:51
visitor1i just changed to single click in thunar becuase of the bug but i cant change it for the desktop icons08:54
TheSheepvisitor1: just put the launchers on your panel instead08:59
TheSheepvisitor1: desktop should be clear anyways :)08:59
well_laid_lawn+109:04
frnknstnWhat CD-burning program is recommended for use in xubuntu?10:41
well_laid_lawn!info xfburn10:43
ubottuxfburn (source: xfburn): CD-burner application for Xfce Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3-1 (lucid), package size 431 kB, installed size 1924 kB10:43
well_laid_lawnfrnknstn: I use k3b here myself10:44
Psilocybin_ElfI use gnomebaker...integrates nicely with Xubuntu10:44
Psilocybin_ElfIt's gtk too10:45
frnknstncool, thanks10:46
slow-motionhi15:08
FFForeverEllo15:33
FFForeverI enabled the nvidia driver from the restricted driver manager and for some reason it fails to load, any ideas on debugging it?15:34
likemindeadHmm... I've never had a problem with it.15:35
likemindeadWhat's the hardware?15:35
FFForever(or where the log file is for the nvidia driver)15:36
FFForeveran acer AR1600-U910H15:43
likemindeadBut what is the NVIDIA hardware?15:44
FFForeverstupid wifi...15:46
FFForevernVidia Corporation ION LE VGA15:46
FFForeverI got it working by reinstalling the driver15:50
likemindeadOh, good!15:50
alexwizard first run slackware and black screen, what is the command to run xorg or other graphic mode ?15:52
likemindeadYou're dual booting Xubuntu and Slackware?15:53
alexwizardonly one, Slackware15:54
likemindeadWell... head to #slackware then...15:54
alexwizardok15:55
alexwizardthanks15:55
likemindeadOr just install Xubuntu! :D15:56
alexwizardmy computer: Duron 650, 256 RAM and i installed Xubuntu, but is too slow work16:01
likemindeadAh.16:02
likemindeadantiX or CrunchBang would be my choice, then.16:02
Sysi!lubuntu16:03
ubottulubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu16:03
iammhello, i'm a semi-convert to linux just recently and i've managed to install xubuntu karmic on a lenovo s10-2, side by side with windows but having problems w/ the wifi driver16:33
iammthe ISO i've downloaded doesn't come w/ b43fwcutter or the bcmwl ?16:33
schlaftieriamm: could you open a terminal and run: lshw -C network16:35
iammso instead i've downloaded  fwcutter but doesn't activate even w/ a restart. and the bcmwl kernel doesn't pursued to install giving me an error in downloading, but i've downloadd it from the repositories16:35
iammi'm currently using the winxp here though... :/16:37
schlaftierah I see16:37
schlaftierthere are a couple of threads in the forums though16:37
schlaftierI just did a quick Google search and tons of pages turned up16:37
schlaftierfor your specific hardware, there seems to be a workaround16:38
iammyes i've checked, but those drivers same w/ xubuntu? doesn't seem to work on mine... as i've downloaded the 2 drivers like on above16:39
iammone was installed but doesn't activate, and the other doesn't install at all...16:39
schlaftierThere is no big difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu, so anything that's not related to the interface should work on Xubuntu, too16:40
schlaftiermaybe try asking in #ubuntu (more people there)16:41
iammi see..16:41
iammthanks for the infos16:41
likemindeadI'd upgrade to 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), iamm. That alone may fix your issue.16:49
iammokay i'll try thanks. could i possibly upgrade from the new ISO i've downloaded, through Update Manager?16:57
likemindeadYes.16:59
likemindeadiamm: http://www.geekazine.com/news/franks-thoughts/upgrading-ubuntu-karmic-koala-to-lucid-lynx17:00
iammthanks a lot17:02
likemindeadGood too: http://qwertyweb.blogspot.com/2010/05/update-ubuntu-karmic-to-lucid.html17:02
iammah this is perfect, for offline upgrade :)  thanks thanks17:05
likemindeadGIYF! :D17:08
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charlie-tcahttp://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/ vote  for the world play day competition18:19
MrNaz`is there a basic calendar widget? you know like when you double click the system tray clock in windows?19:21
MrNaz`and cal in a terminal is a bit too basic19:21
MrNaz`i'd like to at least be able to flip back and forth between months19:22
charlie-tcaMrNaz: yes, it is called orage and is in the menu applications -> Office -> Orage19:25
charlie-tcaIf you install 'orage clock' in the panel, you can click it to dropdown the monthly calendar, click again to disappear it19:26
charlie-tcaI replace the existing panel clock with 'orage clock' here19:27
schlaftierI keep both and have the clock set to analogue and Orage shows the current date and weekday19:31
schlaftiercharlie-tca: thanks for your comment on that bug report, I went back to the original repositories now19:31
schlaftierCan't say if it fixed the freeze for me, though. It still freezes but there might be some piece of exo lurking in RAM somewhere and I really can't reboot or log out right now.19:32
charlie-tcayup19:33
charlie-tcaKeeping my fingers crossed. It worked well for me on both 32bit and 64bit19:33
schlaftierIf not, I'll use the PPA again because that fixed it *and* added to Thunar's sidebar. (Just that minor exo-open issue)19:34
charlie-tcaThat will work, too19:34
naxahi! ok, so the fireflies from xubuntu gdm artwork of karmid are gone in lucid. how can i get them back? ( 2) why on earth is that fascinating stuff is gone? )19:37
charlie-tcanaxa: go back to karmic?19:38
naxacharlie-tca, no way!19:38
naxaI hate karmic anyways. if I go back that would be jaunty19:38
charlie-tcaThe applications used to boot changed, and the same splash screens were incompatible19:38
charlie-tcaor at least, not able to be used19:38
naxacharlie-tca, but i thought karmic used the same gdm as lucid?19:39
naxathe big shift was between jaunty and karmic19:39
charlie-tcabut lucid is using plymouth and xsplash instead of usplash19:39
naxaand exactly that's why i love jaunty and hate poor karmic :)19:39
naxacharlie-tca, well is that anything to do with the gdm?19:39
charlie-tcayes19:40
naxai see19:40
charlie-tcait changes the interactions19:40
naxawere the fireflies gdm stuff?19:40
naxaor usplash?19:40
charlie-tcanot sure19:40
naxai think they were fascinating19:40
naxaanyway I think that it's a pain that the new gdm and new splash does not support the level of creativity the old ones do19:41
ochosinaxa, the fireflies were xsplash19:41
naxaochosi, i see.19:41
naxacharlie-tca, ochosi in that case they could be used in lucid, too?19:42
ochosii guess, if you really want an additional splash...19:42
naxanow where can I find the package? what is the name? :)19:43
ochosixsplash?19:43
naxawell I guess it's something like xubuntu-artwork-xplash or something like this19:43
naxas19:43
naxayeah19:44
naxaany clue of why are they gone?19:44
naxaI would like to point out for somebody somewhere that I've found them fascinating and I miiss them a lot19:44
knomexsplash is not supposed to be installed by default in xubuntu19:44
schlaftierI loved the fireflies too and find it sad they're gone19:45
schlaftierBut then again, I see the login screen rarely (all hibernate and suspend for me)19:45
knomethe credits on the fireflies go to madsrh, http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/19:46
naxaschlaftier, well, one thing I don't accept is arguments like "oh it doesnt matter the user would rarely seen the login screen anyway" :)19:48
naxaknome, thanks for the information19:48
naxaschlaftier, I tend to think that the creativity of the members of the community is a big advantage of linux and open source stuff in general and that it should be taken seriously, not ripped off19:49
schlaftiernaxa: That was not meant to be an argument. It was just to say that I, personally, can do without the fireflies19:49
schlaftiernaxa: Would you please read my _first_ line too, instead of accusing me? I'm on _your_ side on this issue.19:49
knome:P19:50
naxaschlaftier, I see! and i didn't want to talk "against you", it's just you rang the bell and I started to talk in general19:50
schlaftiernaxa: fair enough :)19:50
schlaftierI hope it's not too hard to get xsplash running again19:51
naxaschlaftier, sorry if this seemed like an attack19:51
charlie-tcaknome: do you know if there is a way to replace the current splash screen with the karmic screen?19:51
knomecharlie-tca, no, i don't19:51
knomecharlie-tca, as said, the fireflies we're xsplash19:51
knomecharlie-tca, and we're not using that anymore19:51
schlaftiernaxa: No problem, I was just like "hey, fair point, but why is naxa talking to me personally" :)19:51
naxaalso, I would like to communicate to the creators of xubuntu that we miss the fireflies... how can this be done?19:51
charlie-tcayou have19:52
naxaschlaftier, yeah sorry. :D19:52
knomenaxa, point taken. :)19:52
naxacharlie-tca, you mean it's just happened here right now?19:52
charlie-tcaknome: can I pm you?19:53
knomenaxa, yes he does19:53
knomecharlie-tca, sure19:53
charlie-tcayes, naxa19:53
naxacharlie-tca, knome great! i am happy! :)19:53
charlie-tcaknome: pm me19:55
plouffedoes xubuntu have the same grub problems as ubuntu, with people not being able to boot after the upgrade to 10.0420:06
charlie-tcaDepends on what you mean, exactly. Upgrading from Ubuntu/xubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 should not be a problem20:07
charlie-tcaUpgrading in windows seems to be different20:07
charlie-tcaWindows dual boot may have issues, yes20:08
naxai upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 and there was no problem. I already used grub2 (or whatever, the new grub) in 9.1020:08
plouffeso it only happens when it switches  to a new grub?20:09
naxawell I do remember that in 9.10 getting grub2 done wasn't that trivial, maybe20:09
naxabut I can't really reacall20:09
charlie-tcano, it happens if you have windows installed20:09
plouffehow can I check my grub version?20:10
plouffecharlie-tca, are you saying that if I have a dualboot, I will have that same problem with every upgrade?20:10
charlie-tcado you get a menu when booting?20:10
naxaplouffe, it seems (charlie-tca tells that) it's nothing to do with the grub version. sorry, I think I've just mislead you. listen to charlie-tca he is far more experienced than I am :)20:10
plouffecharlie-tca, ,  I do get a menu now. I did   fresh install of xubuntu 9.10 recently20:11
charlie-tcaplouffe: no, I am saying that at this time, there seems to be a problem with upgrading when dual booting windows20:11
charlie-tcaIf you get a menu, it should have a line like "menu version 1.97~" or so across the top20:12
naxacharlie-tca, what about "sudo grub-setup --version"20:13
charlie-tcasure, if it works. I am by no means an expert on these things20:13
plouffe1.97~beta420:13
plouffeso not grub2 yet?20:13
naxacharlie-tca, well i don't know if it tells the truth but mine is 1.98-1ubuntu620:14
naxahm but I'm pretty sure i did installed the grub2. hm20:14
charlie-tcaplouffe: you are on 9.10, right? naxa: you are on 10.04?20:14
naxacharlie-tca, it's 10.04 here, yes20:14
plouffecharlie-tca,  yes 9.1020:14
charlie-tcaBoth are grub220:14
naxaok20:15
naxamisleadinf the version info it is20:15
naxag20:15
charlie-tcaplouffe: I can't find the bug right now, on the upgrade when dual booting20:15
plouffecharlie-tca, but there would still be problems with the upgrade? It took me one day to boot back into ubuntu after upgrading to 9.1020:15
charlie-tcaThose without windows don't seem to be affected, other than the ubuntu desktop / kubuntu desktop / xubuntu desktop installed bug20:16
plouffebut since I've installed xubuntu a lot of my problems (sound, wifi, etc) disappeared20:16
charlie-tcaSome people with windows dual boot have reported issues upgrading to 10.0420:16
naxaplouffe, I don't know if it is possible with you but I tend to think that it's better to keep a "test-ubuntu" on the computer and first try every upgrade on the test-ubuntu20:18
naxaso i mean I prefer if one has two ubuntus, one for daily life and one for testing20:18
charlie-tcathere will be a ubuntu 10.04.1 also, in about 4 months20:19
charlie-tcaThat will probably have the issues seen now fixed20:19
naxawell it's the same with windows with me. I tend to think there is no need to hastle into the new version. better try it on another partition first...20:22
naxai ended up with ubuntu 10.04 and winxp dual booting20:23
naxaby hastle i mean "rush" :)20:24
edakiriWhy might it be that I have no 'suspend' or 'hibernate' option in power manager?  Something need to be installed?20:49
naxa(i don't know:( )20:52
charlie-tcaedakiri: how many channels are you asking in?20:55
edakiri2.  Am I forgetting any?  I should have asked in this one first, but it did not occur to me until I already asked in #XFCE.20:56
charlie-tcaIf you ask in more than one at time, you could get banned...20:56
edakiriThey are both relevant channels.  If I don't get an answer, it's not redundant.20:57
edakirithough this channel is more relevant, i think20:57
charlie-tcaI don't really know anything about suspend and hibernate, unfortunately. Please be patient, there are many people here that may know.20:57
charlie-tcaWhat version of xubuntu are you using/20:58
charlie-tca?20:58
edakiri10.04 : LL20:58
charlie-tcacheck if power manager is installed - apt-cache policy xfce4-power-manager20:59
charlie-tcaalso, do you have gnome-power-manager installed? If so, it may be a conflict20:59
edakirixfce4-power-manager is installed and gnome-power-manager not.21:04
mr_pouitwhich version?21:04
edakiri0.8.4.2-1ubuntu521:05
edakiriI  have acpi-support and pm-utils installed.  Could that be a conflict?21:06
mr_pouitmight be a permission problem, with consolekit21:07
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naxabye21:26
knomeFFForever, please do not use awaynicks21:27
FFForeverknome, :( ok ill update znc later21:34
FFForever(before I dc)21:34
knomeFFForever, cheers. have a nice day! :)21:34
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