[00:07] <knome> Darth_Tux, no, the ntfs partition would still be broken if that is the case now.
[00:15] <knome> good night->
[02:53] <Nemo296> Hi
[02:54] <Nemo296> I need some advice for Xubuntu, I'm new to it.
[03:14] <ochosi> !hi
[03:33] <fabjoa_mwoz> hola
[03:34] <fabjoa_mwoz> my task list is invisible, any idea why?
[03:37] <fabjoa_mwoz> it's here, i can click on it but it doesnt show on the screen
[03:41] <fabjoa_mwoz> cool i found how to do it, i didnt know there was a restart panel function
[03:42] <fabjoa_mwoz> i love xubuntu
[04:35] <vn> heya, since I went from karmic to lucid, no sound..anyone can give me a lead on how to solve this problem?
[04:36] <likemindead> Possible answers here, vn -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1467251
[04:37] <vn> thanks
[04:54] <vn> remove purge and reinstall from that page did it, thanks!
[05:49] <razer> does anyone know how to get xfree86 keyboard shortcuts to work in xfce?
[08:06] <visitor1> , i installed xsane form the ubuntu package manager, but when i start xsane it says no devices avaiable but the scanner is connected and i can print with it
[08:06] <visitor1> hi people, need help to get a canon mp640 under xubuntu 10.04 working,i downloaded the latest sane from the sane webpage and i did ./configure, make,make install
[08:06] <visitor1> hi people, need help to get a canon mp640 under xubuntu 10.04 working,i downloaded the latest sane from the sane webpage and i did ./configure, make,make install
[08:06] <visitor1> , i installed xsane form the ubuntu package manager, but when i start xsane it says no devices avaiable but the scanner is connected and i can print with it
[08:48] <visitor1> any way to use single click on desktop?
[08:51] <well_laid_lawn> not afaik visitor1 ...
[08:54] <visitor1> i just changed to single click in thunar becuase of the bug but i cant change it for the desktop icons
[08:59] <TheSheep> visitor1: just put the launchers on your panel instead
[08:59] <TheSheep> visitor1: desktop should be clear anyways :)
[09:04] <well_laid_lawn> +1
[10:41] <frnknstn> What CD-burning program is recommended for use in xubuntu?
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> !info xfburn
[10:44] <well_laid_lawn> frnknstn: I use k3b here myself
[10:44] <Psilocybin_Elf> I use gnomebaker...integrates nicely with Xubuntu
[10:45] <Psilocybin_Elf> It's gtk too
[10:46] <frnknstn> cool, thanks
[15:08] <slow-motion> hi
[15:33] <FFForever> Ello
[15:34] <FFForever> I enabled the nvidia driver from the restricted driver manager and for some reason it fails to load, any ideas on debugging it?
[15:35] <likemindead> Hmm... I've never had a problem with it.
[15:35] <likemindead> What's the hardware?
[15:36] <FFForever> (or where the log file is for the nvidia driver)
[15:43] <FFForever> an acer AR1600-U910H
[15:44] <likemindead> But what is the NVIDIA hardware?
[15:46] <FFForever> stupid wifi...
[15:46] <FFForever> nVidia Corporation ION LE VGA
[15:50] <FFForever> I got it working by reinstalling the driver
[15:50] <likemindead> Oh, good!
[15:52] <alexwizard>  first run slackware and black screen, what is the command to run xorg or other graphic mode ?
[15:53] <likemindead> You're dual booting Xubuntu and Slackware?
[15:54] <alexwizard> only one, Slackware
[15:54] <likemindead> Well... head to #slackware then...
[15:55] <alexwizard> ok
[15:55] <alexwizard> thanks
[15:56] <likemindead> Or just install Xubuntu! :D
[16:01] <alexwizard> my computer: Duron 650, 256 RAM and i installed Xubuntu, but is too slow work
[16:02] <likemindead> Ah.
[16:02] <likemindead> antiX or CrunchBang would be my choice, then.
[16:03] <Sysi> !lubuntu
[16:33] <iamm> hello, i'm a semi-convert to linux just recently and i've managed to install xubuntu karmic on a lenovo s10-2, side by side with windows but having problems w/ the wifi driver
[16:33] <iamm> the ISO i've downloaded doesn't come w/ b43fwcutter or the bcmwl ?
[16:35] <schlaftier> iamm: could you open a terminal and run: lshw -C network
[16:35] <iamm> so instead i've downloaded  fwcutter but doesn't activate even w/ a restart. and the bcmwl kernel doesn't pursued to install giving me an error in downloading, but i've downloadd it from the repositories
[16:37] <iamm> i'm currently using the winxp here though... :/
[16:37] <schlaftier> ah I see
[16:37] <schlaftier> there are a couple of threads in the forums though
[16:37] <schlaftier> I just did a quick Google search and tons of pages turned up
[16:38] <schlaftier> for your specific hardware, there seems to be a workaround
[16:39] <iamm> yes i've checked, but those drivers same w/ xubuntu? doesn't seem to work on mine... as i've downloaded the 2 drivers like on above
[16:39] <iamm> one was installed but doesn't activate, and the other doesn't install at all...
[16:40] <schlaftier> There is no big difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu, so anything that's not related to the interface should work on Xubuntu, too
[16:41] <schlaftier> maybe try asking in #ubuntu (more people there)
[16:41] <iamm> i see..
[16:41] <iamm> thanks for the infos
[16:49] <likemindead> I'd upgrade to 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), iamm. That alone may fix your issue.
[16:57] <iamm> okay i'll try thanks. could i possibly upgrade from the new ISO i've downloaded, through Update Manager?
[16:59] <likemindead> Yes.
[17:00] <likemindead> iamm: http://www.geekazine.com/news/franks-thoughts/upgrading-ubuntu-karmic-koala-to-lucid-lynx
[17:02] <iamm> thanks a lot
[17:02] <likemindead> Good too: http://qwertyweb.blogspot.com/2010/05/update-ubuntu-karmic-to-lucid.html
[17:05] <iamm> ah this is perfect, for offline upgrade :)  thanks thanks
[17:08] <likemindead> GIYF! :D
[18:19] <charlie-tca> http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/ vote  for the world play day competition
[19:21] <MrNaz`> is there a basic calendar widget? you know like when you double click the system tray clock in windows?
[19:21] <MrNaz`> and cal in a terminal is a bit too basic
[19:22] <MrNaz`> i'd like to at least be able to flip back and forth between months
[19:25] <charlie-tca> MrNaz: yes, it is called orage and is in the menu applications -> Office -> Orage
[19:26] <charlie-tca> If you install 'orage clock' in the panel, you can click it to dropdown the monthly calendar, click again to disappear it
[19:27] <charlie-tca> I replace the existing panel clock with 'orage clock' here
[19:31] <schlaftier> I keep both and have the clock set to analogue and Orage shows the current date and weekday
[19:31] <schlaftier> charlie-tca: thanks for your comment on that bug report, I went back to the original repositories now
[19:32] <schlaftier> Can't say if it fixed the freeze for me, though. It still freezes but there might be some piece of exo lurking in RAM somewhere and I really can't reboot or log out right now.
[19:33] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Keeping my fingers crossed. It worked well for me on both 32bit and 64bit
[19:34] <schlaftier> If not, I'll use the PPA again because that fixed it *and* added to Thunar's sidebar. (Just that minor exo-open issue)
[19:34] <charlie-tca> That will work, too
[19:37] <naxa> hi! ok, so the fireflies from xubuntu gdm artwork of karmid are gone in lucid. how can i get them back? ( 2) why on earth is that fascinating stuff is gone? )
[19:38] <charlie-tca> naxa: go back to karmic?
[19:38] <naxa> charlie-tca, no way!
[19:38] <naxa> I hate karmic anyways. if I go back that would be jaunty
[19:38] <charlie-tca> The applications used to boot changed, and the same splash screens were incompatible
[19:38] <charlie-tca> or at least, not able to be used
[19:39] <naxa> charlie-tca, but i thought karmic used the same gdm as lucid?
[19:39] <naxa> the big shift was between jaunty and karmic
[19:39] <charlie-tca> but lucid is using plymouth and xsplash instead of usplash
[19:39] <naxa> and exactly that's why i love jaunty and hate poor karmic :)
[19:39] <naxa> charlie-tca, well is that anything to do with the gdm?
[19:40] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:40] <naxa> i see
[19:40] <charlie-tca> it changes the interactions
[19:40] <naxa> were the fireflies gdm stuff?
[19:40] <naxa> or usplash?
[19:40] <charlie-tca> not sure
[19:40] <naxa> i think they were fascinating
[19:41] <naxa> anyway I think that it's a pain that the new gdm and new splash does not support the level of creativity the old ones do
[19:41] <ochosi> naxa, the fireflies were xsplash
[19:41] <naxa> ochosi, i see.
[19:42] <naxa> charlie-tca, ochosi in that case they could be used in lucid, too?
[19:42] <ochosi> i guess, if you really want an additional splash...
[19:43] <naxa> now where can I find the package? what is the name? :)
[19:43] <ochosi> xsplash?
[19:43] <naxa> well I guess it's something like xubuntu-artwork-xplash or something like this
[19:43] <naxa> s
[19:44] <naxa> yeah
[19:44] <naxa> any clue of why are they gone?
[19:44] <naxa> I would like to point out for somebody somewhere that I've found them fascinating and I miiss them a lot
[19:44] <knome> xsplash is not supposed to be installed by default in xubuntu
[19:45] <schlaftier> I loved the fireflies too and find it sad they're gone
[19:45] <schlaftier> But then again, I see the login screen rarely (all hibernate and suspend for me)
[19:46] <knome> the credits on the fireflies go to madsrh, http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/
[19:48] <naxa> schlaftier, well, one thing I don't accept is arguments like "oh it doesnt matter the user would rarely seen the login screen anyway" :)
[19:48] <naxa> knome, thanks for the information
[19:49] <naxa> schlaftier, I tend to think that the creativity of the members of the community is a big advantage of linux and open source stuff in general and that it should be taken seriously, not ripped off
[19:49] <schlaftier> naxa: That was not meant to be an argument. It was just to say that I, personally, can do without the fireflies
[19:49] <schlaftier> naxa: Would you please read my _first_ line too, instead of accusing me? I'm on _your_ side on this issue.
[19:50] <knome> :P
[19:50] <naxa> schlaftier, I see! and i didn't want to talk "against you", it's just you rang the bell and I started to talk in general
[19:50] <schlaftier> naxa: fair enough :)
[19:51] <schlaftier> I hope it's not too hard to get xsplash running again
[19:51] <naxa> schlaftier, sorry if this seemed like an attack
[19:51] <charlie-tca> knome: do you know if there is a way to replace the current splash screen with the karmic screen?
[19:51] <knome> charlie-tca, no, i don't
[19:51] <knome> charlie-tca, as said, the fireflies we're xsplash
[19:51] <knome> charlie-tca, and we're not using that anymore
[19:51] <schlaftier> naxa: No problem, I was just like "hey, fair point, but why is naxa talking to me personally" :)
[19:51] <naxa> also, I would like to communicate to the creators of xubuntu that we miss the fireflies... how can this be done?
[19:52] <charlie-tca> you have
[19:52] <naxa> schlaftier, yeah sorry. :D
[19:52] <knome> naxa, point taken. :)
[19:52] <naxa> charlie-tca, you mean it's just happened here right now?
[19:53] <charlie-tca> knome: can I pm you?
[19:53] <knome> naxa, yes he does
[19:53] <knome> charlie-tca, sure
[19:53] <charlie-tca> yes, naxa
[19:53] <naxa> charlie-tca, knome great! i am happy! :)
[19:55] <charlie-tca> knome: pm me
[20:06] <plouffe> does xubuntu have the same grub problems as ubuntu, with people not being able to boot after the upgrade to 10.04
[20:07] <charlie-tca> Depends on what you mean, exactly. Upgrading from Ubuntu/xubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 should not be a problem
[20:07] <charlie-tca> Upgrading in windows seems to be different
[20:08] <charlie-tca> Windows dual boot may have issues, yes
[20:08] <naxa> i upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 and there was no problem. I already used grub2 (or whatever, the new grub) in 9.10
[20:09] <plouffe> so it only happens when it switches  to a new grub?
[20:09] <naxa> well I do remember that in 9.10 getting grub2 done wasn't that trivial, maybe
[20:09] <naxa> but I can't really reacall
[20:09] <charlie-tca> no, it happens if you have windows installed
[20:10] <plouffe> how can I check my grub version?
[20:10] <plouffe> charlie-tca, are you saying that if I have a dualboot, I will have that same problem with every upgrade?
[20:10] <charlie-tca> do you get a menu when booting?
[20:10] <naxa> plouffe, it seems (charlie-tca tells that) it's nothing to do with the grub version. sorry, I think I've just mislead you. listen to charlie-tca he is far more experienced than I am :)
[20:11] <plouffe> charlie-tca, ,  I do get a menu now. I did   fresh install of xubuntu 9.10 recently
[20:11] <charlie-tca> plouffe: no, I am saying that at this time, there seems to be a problem with upgrading when dual booting windows
[20:12] <charlie-tca> If you get a menu, it should have a line like "menu version 1.97~" or so across the top
[20:13] <naxa> charlie-tca, what about "sudo grub-setup --version"
[20:13] <charlie-tca> sure, if it works. I am by no means an expert on these things
[20:13] <plouffe> 1.97~beta4
[20:13] <plouffe> so not grub2 yet?
[20:14] <naxa> charlie-tca, well i don't know if it tells the truth but mine is 1.98-1ubuntu6
[20:14] <naxa> hm but I'm pretty sure i did installed the grub2. hm
[20:14] <charlie-tca> plouffe: you are on 9.10, right? naxa: you are on 10.04?
[20:14] <naxa> charlie-tca, it's 10.04 here, yes
[20:14] <plouffe> charlie-tca,  yes 9.10
[20:14] <charlie-tca> Both are grub2
[20:15] <naxa> ok
[20:15] <naxa> misleadinf the version info it is
[20:15] <naxa> g
[20:15] <charlie-tca> plouffe: I can't find the bug right now, on the upgrade when dual booting
[20:15] <plouffe> charlie-tca, but there would still be problems with the upgrade? It took me one day to boot back into ubuntu after upgrading to 9.10
[20:16] <charlie-tca> Those without windows don't seem to be affected, other than the ubuntu desktop / kubuntu desktop / xubuntu desktop installed bug
[20:16] <plouffe> but since I've installed xubuntu a lot of my problems (sound, wifi, etc) disappeared
[20:16] <charlie-tca> Some people with windows dual boot have reported issues upgrading to 10.04
[20:18] <naxa> plouffe, I don't know if it is possible with you but I tend to think that it's better to keep a "test-ubuntu" on the computer and first try every upgrade on the test-ubuntu
[20:18] <naxa> so i mean I prefer if one has two ubuntus, one for daily life and one for testing
[20:19] <charlie-tca> there will be a ubuntu 10.04.1 also, in about 4 months
[20:19] <charlie-tca> That will probably have the issues seen now fixed
[20:22] <naxa> well it's the same with windows with me. I tend to think there is no need to hastle into the new version. better try it on another partition first...
[20:23] <naxa> i ended up with ubuntu 10.04 and winxp dual booting
[20:24] <naxa> by hastle i mean "rush" :)
[20:49] <edakiri> Why might it be that I have no 'suspend' or 'hibernate' option in power manager?  Something need to be installed?
[20:52] <naxa> (i don't know:( )
[20:55] <charlie-tca> edakiri: how many channels are you asking in?
[20:56] <edakiri> 2.  Am I forgetting any?  I should have asked in this one first, but it did not occur to me until I already asked in #XFCE.
[20:56] <charlie-tca> If you ask in more than one at time, you could get banned...
[20:57] <edakiri> They are both relevant channels.  If I don't get an answer, it's not redundant.
[20:57] <edakiri> though this channel is more relevant, i think
[20:57] <charlie-tca> I don't really know anything about suspend and hibernate, unfortunately. Please be patient, there are many people here that may know.
[20:58] <charlie-tca> What version of xubuntu are you using/
[20:58] <charlie-tca> ?
[20:58] <edakiri> 10.04 : LL
[20:59] <charlie-tca> check if power manager is installed - apt-cache policy xfce4-power-manager
[20:59] <charlie-tca> also, do you have gnome-power-manager installed? If so, it may be a conflict
[21:04] <edakiri> xfce4-power-manager is installed and gnome-power-manager not.
[21:04] <mr_pouit> which version?
[21:05] <edakiri> 0.8.4.2-1ubuntu5
[21:06] <edakiri> I  have acpi-support and pm-utils installed.  Could that be a conflict?
[21:07] <mr_pouit> might be a permission problem, with consolekit
[21:26] <naxa> bye
[21:27] <knome> FFForever, please do not use awaynicks
[21:34] <FFForever> knome, :( ok ill update znc later
[21:34] <FFForever> (before I dc)
[21:34] <knome> FFForever, cheers. have a nice day! :)