=== DT[AtWork] is now known as DT` [00:06] my computer supports booting to USB, can i install Lucid to an 8gb stick and run it from that? if so, can it be done from within another linux distro? [00:07] with unetbootin [00:08] got a link handy to the page for that? [00:09] you can easily found it with google [00:09] find [00:09] ok thanks [00:09] !usb [00:09] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [00:09] aha [00:09] thank you amichair and havane31 [00:10] DT`: I'm not sure if it's updated, but there's a usb creator in kubuntu's menus too... [00:10] :) [00:11] well i'm not using kubuntu, i'm on crunchbang, almost everything need to be done command line or i need to know the exact name of the program [00:12] (which is great for low power systems like my old AMD k5 with a whopping 100mb of ram :P) [00:12] DT`: ok then, I guess u can read up on various methods and pick the one which suits your needs :-) [00:12] xubuntu is a good choice [00:15] havane i ran xubuntu on it, but the new (9.x+) don't run on it all. with crunchbang i can actually use a live CD and not have to install to disk [00:16] sound isn't playing when i watch youtube videos [00:16] i've installed pulseaudio, doesn't seem to help [00:17] you could try with unetbootin DT` [00:18] it is faster with an usb stick, faster with a live cd [00:18] i may do that after reading the page [00:18] faster than with a live cd [00:18] USB is not an option on that old fossil tho :/ [00:18] ( my english is not perfect) [00:19] (neither is mine and i'm american :P) [00:19] ( i am french :) [00:19] now, if i use unetbootin to make a live USB stick, will it save setting and so forth? [00:20] in other words, will it act like a hard disk install? [00:20] it will save if it is persistent i think [00:20] it is an option [00:20] ok [00:20] will have to look. that seems to be the easiest option [00:21] not quite ready to format my hard drive. got alot of stuff to back up first [00:21] i saw on official ubuntu webpages a software used to make bootable usb sticktoo [00:21] someone has a lins as to where i register a nick [00:21] link [00:21] sidney: /msg NickServ help register [00:22] so, can anyone help?? [00:23] sorry ridin, i've never had an issue with audio on any computer i've done :( [00:24] ridin: What's your problem? [00:24] it is called universal usb installer [00:24] DT` [00:25] Gerwin: I can't listen to flash files, or anything else, only amarok and the start up sound [00:26] ridin: Sorry, no experience on that :( === sidney is now known as Sovereign [00:27] ok, i'll mess with that stuff in a bit, will return if i have an issues, thanks all [00:29] none of my output devices work === Sovereign is now known as SovereignEntity [00:29] At least one of them must be working, since you can hear the startup sound, and can listen to Amarok ;) [00:29] not anymore. [00:44] kubuntu rocks! [00:45] alex_____: agreed :-) === sidney is now known as SovereignEntity === GinoMan is now known as MasterChief [00:51] The plymouuth boot app doesn't works well! [00:51] can someone here help with a pysdm error message [00:51] An error occurred while mounting /media/sdc1 [00:53] SovereignEntity: yes, that error means that 'error occurred while mounting /media/sdc1' :) [00:54] Typos_King: but i uninstalled the program and the drive is mounter with another program === MasterChief is now known as GinoMan [00:55] but i still get the error [00:55] well [00:55] you seem to think is 'pysdm' for some reason, maybe the error comes from something else :), from changes pysdm made to fstab [00:56] ok can someone point me in the direction to get rid of this error [00:57] hello. say, i've never used kubuntu, but was wondering how it compares to ubuntu? yeah, sure, i understand it uses kde instead of gnome, but that can't be literally the only difference ... (can it???) [00:57] yeap, thats the only difference [00:58] the error came up after installing and using pysdm [00:58] thats why i unstalled [00:58] chilipep4: yes :) [00:59] chilipep4: that's pretty much it [00:59] alex____, Typos_King: oh, so it still uses openoffice, ubuntuone, jockey, and doesn't really have any more bugs? [01:00] yeap [01:00] just different desktop manager and default window manager, I don't use kwin, I use another window manager, but run kde apps :) [01:03] kubuntu just install kde desktop almost without applying any customization [01:03] ah, well, thanks for the information. i guess that satisfies my curiosity === basile is now known as guillom [01:10] looking at my directories from a shell, there's an "L" instead of a "D" in front of my /home directory. Does this mean it's a link? [01:14] sounds like it [01:15] is there a nighly repo for kde4.5beta for lucid somewhere? [01:15] dbc254: can you post a screenshot of what you're looking at? in Details mode, paste it at imgur.com [01:15] I dunno if that means is a link or not, sounds like it from what you said, then again, dunno, mine isn't, when I'm on ~ [01:21] dbc254: ksnapshot :) [01:27] dbc254: so, which is the link? I don't see it on that image? [01:27] the top left window is my shell [01:28] yes [01:29] I don't see your HOME folder as being a link, it isn't even listed in any way anyway, you do have a link there, but that's another matter [01:30] how do you get thumbnails for movie files? [01:30] snarkfish: take a quick snapshot of the movie :) [01:31] make a thumbnail off it [01:31] usually a media player will have such tool, I use xine-ui, and has a 'camera' icon I can just click and snapshots it [01:31] isnt there some sort of plugin that will make previews of movie files? [01:32] maybe, I never looked for one myself [01:35] http://imgur.com/3166p.jpg [01:35] snarkfish: If you find out let me know. We need that for videocatcher :) [01:38] dbc254: saw that [01:38] well i found out how to use ffmpeg.. want the link? [01:39] markus_: http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2008/03/29/creating-video-thumbnails-using-ffmpeg/ [01:40] snarkfish: Googled that up too. Already checking if this program uses ffmpeg. (read that mplayer also creates thumbnails) [01:40] http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/08/howto-set-movie-covers-as-thumbnails-on.html [01:41] wonder if the second link would work with dolphin cause its a gtk program [01:43] snarkfish: I may look into mplayer arguments, it may allows a quickshot at some offset or so [01:46] hmm ok. thanx [01:47] what about this one? http://blog.radevic.com/2008/06/how-to-create-movie-or-video-frame.html [01:59] .. [01:59] can't say snarkfish [01:59] looks ok though [02:25] hi all I hve a proublem with screen resolution When I restart my box it reverts back to the default screen resolution Is there a way to set the resolution and keep it the same after rebooy, Kubuntu 10.04 Nvidia graphics Thanks [02:29] Anyone around? Kubuntu isn't recognizing my Canon printer, which is a new development... [02:29] It shows up on lsusb though [02:46] hi all [02:46] where can I download a Live CD to boot Kubuntu ? [02:47] can all downloads be used live ? [02:51] siran- I know the desktop CD and DVD can === txwikinger changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 10.04 LTS: http://kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-release | KDE SC 4.4: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.3 | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guideines | Torrent: (x86) http://bit.ly/aCu4C0 (AMD64) http://bit.ly/cCS4kR (Netbook) http://bit.ly/9PFkOD | === txwikinger changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 10.04 LTS: http://kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-release | KDE SC 4.4: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.3 | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guideines | Torrent: (x86) http://bit.ly/aCu4C0 (AMD64) http://bit.ly/cCS4kR (Netbook) http://bit.ly/9PFkOD | === txwikinger changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 10.04 LTS: http://kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-release | KDE SC 4.4: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.3 | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guideines | Torrent: (x86) http://bit.ly/aCu4C0 (AMD64) http://bit.ly/cCS4kR (Netbook) http://bit.ly/9PFkOD | [03:00] +++++ [03:00] -+ === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal [03:06] Hello. I installed the ubuntu-desktop meta-package on Kubuntu, just to try it out later, and it fiddled with my file associations. Is there an easy way to reverse this? (e.g. if some package's post-install messed with them, is there a corresponding Kubuntu package I could reinstall to do the opposite?) === dave is now known as rd === dave is now known as Guest78922 === Guest78922 is now known as rd2k [03:42] hi [03:43] join #ubuntu-es === talla is now known as fadly [04:16] it would be great to match consitency betwen the kubuntu plymouth theme, kdm and ksplash [04:20] Hi [04:22] hi === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [04:43] bbl === matyd` is now known as matthew === matthew is now known as matyd1 [04:57] running kubuntu 10.04 and I am wondering why when I hook my hdmi cord up to the television it isn't working? I've tried googling but not too sure where to start or how to word it === matthew` is now known as matyd === matyd is now known as matyd` [05:03] i'm running kubuntu 10.04 and am wondering why, when I plug my hdmi cord into the laptop that's connected to the television doesn't work. I tried googling buthad no luck and really wasn't sure how to even word that lol === matyd` is now known as matyd [05:09] matyd: hi matyd [05:09] hello [05:09] there are a number of reasons why it may not work, firstly your card may not be supported [05:10] if it is supported, it may be using the incorrect driver [05:10] those are the most common causes. [05:10] can you tell me a bit about the video card your using ? [05:10] yeah, sorry i'm pretty new to linux [05:11] pretty newb tbh [05:11] actually another common cause is that you just haven't told it to out put to the hdmi port, but we'll get to that later [05:11] thats fine, no experience needed [05:11] yeah i opened the kde multiple monitors deal and it just says its not configured [05:12] ok, no problem, so to begin with, what is your video card ? [05:12] what make /model [05:12] this can usually be found in the hardware manual [05:12] if you don't know off the top of your head [05:13] let me check ;P [05:14] pretty sure its: Discrete NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS graphics [05:15] okay then. gimme a few mins, just have to attend to some thing and i'll be right back [05:16] sorry i was wrong [05:16] 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) [05:36] fixed it, went to desktop settings and check marked desktop effects [05:36] works awesome now thanks === scott___ is now known as scottayy [05:49] okay its working and everything but the sound is not [05:50] hey sorry got a bit caught up [05:50] so you got it working , cool [05:50] except for the sound [05:50] right [05:50] tried playing a movie, the sound played on the laptop but didn't play on my surround sound [05:53] well done, i guess from a sound pov you could look at kmix [05:53] right click on the sound / speaker icon [05:53] anyone from townsville??? [05:53] and select show mixer window [05:53] then on mine, i have a button that says master [05:54] kmix isn't bold [05:54] can't click on it [05:54] if you click on the button it should expand [05:54] ahh i got ya [05:54] yeh you should get all the different options, you might just have one of the options muted [05:54] or low [05:55] ANYONE from townsville??? [05:55] sokeman: if someone is from townsville they will say so [05:55] i did have one muted, let me check now [05:55] also not everyone is monitoring the channel all the time [05:57] matyd: there is also a sound option in the system settings [05:57] wich allows you to increase/ decrease the device priority [05:57] that may be of some use to you [05:57] k let me check that also [05:57] it could possibly list an HDMI output [05:57] which can be increased in priority for video [05:58] i don't have HDMI unfortunately so i have never tried it [05:58] yeah it did and i was able to test the 'HDA Intel, INTEL HDMI (HDMI Audio Output)' and it worked [05:59] cool [05:59] well done [05:59] trying to figure out how to get it to work for the movie hehe [06:00] well its not working for the movie that is currently playing though [06:01] the driver is working though heh [06:01] could it be the dragon player? [06:01] should i look into another media player for the movies maybe [06:02] vlc [06:09] hi guys, I installed Kubuntu yesterday, everything fine, install and upgrade some stuff [06:09] then today when I reboot, I stumble upon a grub prompt and nothing more :S === fede is now known as Sp3ctr0 === Sp3ctr0 is now known as fede11001 [06:14] Hi [06:15] Could you please help me? [06:15] I have just installed Kubuntu 10.04 [06:15] and have no sound... [06:15] check the volume with kmix [06:15] fede11001: how did you check the sound ? [06:18] i just have to input kmix in the console [06:18] i am new at this.. sorry :S === liveCD is now known as lyhana8 [06:19] fede11001: Alt+F2 then type kmix [06:19] or in the statut bar, also check your speaker [06:20] the speaker in the status bar [06:20] is ok [06:21] when i ran kmix it keeps loading [06:21] and after that nothing happens... [06:21] the program on the tray gets closed [06:22] i have an NVidia hda [06:22] it seems to be a quite regular error [06:22] but i found no solution in forums or google [06:22] :S [06:23] there are some site that asks if i am running pulse [06:23] or something like that.. [06:23] any idea? [06:23] did ypu try to install the proprietary driver ? Alt+F2 type `driver` and open the 1st one [06:24] fede11001: If it's a fresh install I don't think so, pulse is for Ubuntu, Kubuntu use ALSA [06:31] just a sec [06:33] it just detected driver for the video Card [06:33] not sure, but maybe the driver for the HDa is inside [06:33] you can give it a try [06:34] otherwise check if ALSA is install [06:36] how do i do that :S [06:36] Whats the best app for programming HTML/Javascript [06:36] i am so screwed [06:39] tim_: you choose: kate, gedit, jedit, quanta+, kompozer, vim XD [06:40] fede11001: with a console : aptitude search alsa [06:40] the line beginning with `i` mean the package is install [06:41] ok, i will do so [06:41] i have not installed synaptic yet [06:41] also look at this line to know your card model : `lspci | grep -i audio` [06:41] lyhana8: which one would you say is teh best [06:41] its a command line, plus you dont need synaptic, there is kpackagekit for KDE [06:42] I got alsa-base and alsa-utils installed [06:44] when i do alsamixer in the console is there [06:44] yes i have just lloked at it [06:44] i will try to modify [06:44] the model type [06:44] in order to check if there was the error [06:45] really-... i dont have a clue of what i am doing [06:45] don't understand the 5 last sentences [06:45] lol [06:45] it seems that alsa is installed [06:45] you're discovering a whole new world :D [06:45] i am reading at document that explains that the sound issue is very common with intel cards.. [06:46] and that i should change the model in this file [06:46] etc/modprobe.d/options.conf [06:46] however, this file was not created [06:46] try to restart it: sudo service alsa-mixer-save restart [06:46] i hope it works [06:46] ÑS [06:46] ok i wil try [06:46] just a sec [06:47] fede11001: you can ask help on #ubuntu and #alsa (if this one exists) [06:47] I've to restart [06:48] anyone from townsville [06:48] anyone from townsville??? [06:49] fede@afrika:~$ sudo service alsa-mixer-save restart [06:49] [sudo] password for fede: [06:49] restart: Unknown instance: [06:53] hey, what is a good program for doing video chat? Like with aim or something? [06:53] if i run digiKam i get a error message but just with a title: Nepomuk Data Storage.. any idea? [06:54] and on login i get also a error message.. i can't remember.. full in work.. but also anything with nepomuk, that some package must be installed to use it.. [06:54] !kopete | alonea [06:54] alonea: Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin [06:55] well_laid_lawn: use pidgin.. cause it supports also IRC in kde4 [06:55] Pidgin doesn't support video, bu [06:55] alonea: ok.. hm.. [06:55] I was just at their website [06:55] and they said they dont [06:55] alonea: video for what protocoll? [06:55] i just use video in skype.. [06:55] aim or msn is what I am looking for. Aim preferably [06:57] does Kopete work with Ubuntu Remix? or do I need KDE for that? [06:58] alonea: hm.. i think some kde packages will also be installed if you install kopete on ubuntu [06:58] so try apt-cache depends kopete, so you see what packages it need [06:58] noaXess: and does Kopete support video with most of the basic protocols? [06:59] alonea: i don't know.. cause i used kopete not long time in kde4.. [06:59] kopete.kde.org [06:59] looking in their documentation, haven't seen anything about video yet [06:59] fede11001: any progress ? [06:59] nope [07:00] y tirde to force de alsa reload [07:00] and the driver is still not working [07:00] looks like MSN and yahoo. that will work I think [07:00] i mean should happen to someone else before [07:00] :S [07:00] it weird to dont find an answr [07:01] when i did sudo alsa force-reload [07:01] the speaker in the tray disappeared [07:01] you can try to install pulse maybe [07:01] ok... [07:02] do i need to de-install alsa before doing that [07:02] how do i get synaptic [07:02] by console? [07:02] hopefully its not a hassle to set up the webcam for it. kinda sucky that something like this doesn't have great support, but can't blame Linux guys too much...not like the companies help [07:05] got synaptic [07:05] fede11001: use `kpackagekit` [07:06] sudo aptitude reinstall alsa-base [07:06] ok in kpackagekit [07:06] i search fo rpulse and there are a lot of options [07:06] which one should i select [07:06] pulse library? [07:07] read the description: pulseaudio [07:07] all of them? [07:11] lyhana8 should i install all pulses packages??? [07:13] fede11001: the one call `pulseaudio` and pulseaudio-utils [07:16] hello [07:24] ok, so I see myself and stuff under kopete under video in the settings, but how do I actually have a video chat with someone??? I dont see a button anywhere [07:26] it says its supports msn, but I dont see a button anywhere to start a video conference. [07:42] does anyone use gtk record my desktop? is any one having problems loading videos to youtube with lucid? [07:43] hi all. Has anyone installed FGLRX drivers successfully on 10.04? === ussher is now known as ussher_ [08:39] hello ...... [08:39] Is there french people [08:41] Hello [08:41] dubis: yep [08:43] lyhana8: Do you speak french ? [08:43] oui dubis [08:44] cool ...........J'ai des soucis avec akonnadi ???? [08:51] Does anyone have any idea when there will be KDE SC 4.5b1 packages available? === esdrujulo is now known as Edeuterius [09:14] Is it possible check computer components watt using on Kubuntu? [09:21] !fr | dubis !sensors | oxymoron "might" include wattage [09:21] dubis !sensors | oxymoron "might" include wattage: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [09:21] oops [09:21] !sensors | oxymoron "might" include wattage [09:21] oxymoron "might" include wattage: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. [09:22] lol [09:26] well_laid_lawn: Thanks :) [09:27] np :] [09:28] well_laid_lawn: Its already installed, how do I use the till? [09:28] oxymoron: I've never used lm_sensors sorry [09:28] I only get voltage [09:29] P = U * I and I want to know P, but only got U? [09:30] I got this lm-sensors [09:30] is I time? [09:30] Sorry: http://pastebin.com/U99N5Tki [09:30] well_laid_lawn: No I is ampere [09:31] Is my values good btw? [09:32] I want to know if and how many more compontents my power supply will be able to handle ... I only got 4 modular SATA power supplies with Corsair 520 W and I got 6 disks [09:34] And while I am still in good mood, if I should backup huge amounts of data into a external drive, whats the best backup app/script deal? I want to store incremental backups every week and then rewrite over every new week day by day. [09:35] I want to backup several partitions on one drive. [09:36] Ok, this is a weird issue... Any time that I get an IM in pidgin when the IM window is not focused, my entire screen flashes [09:36] !rsync | oxymoron [09:36] oxymoron: rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync [09:36] FireCrotch: Entire screen? :O [09:37] well_laid_lawn: How to script rsync, I have been trying to do it but I dont understand how you do. [09:37] oxymoron: entire screen. It's related to plasma notifications, since it just happened when you highlighted me, too [09:37] FireCrotch: Thats odd, have you tried another IM client? [09:38] oxymoron: I doubt its client related, since I use quassel for IRC [09:38] FireCrotch: COuld be desktop effects, knotify, new QT (If youre using 4.7) or anything. [09:38] FireCrotch: Btw, I could recommend Konversation, you WILL dump Quassel for that one thats a promise. [09:38] Konversation doesn' [09:39] t have a server component that lets me connect to it from any computer running the proper client though [09:39] :) [09:40] FireCrotch: Why do you need that anyway? :S [09:41] oxymoron: because I use both my laptop and my desktop, and I like to stay connected at all times, and use a GUI client [09:41] so no irssi+screen (irssi sucks) [09:43] FireCrotch: Isnt it possible to connect to it from both computers then? [09:45] oxymoron: huh? [09:45] FireCrotch: Connect to IRC from both laptop and desktop? [09:46] oxymoron: using different nicks, sure [09:46] But what about the stuff that I would miss when neither computer is on? [09:47] FireCrotch: Not much happening on IRC anyway :P [09:48] oxymoron: maybe not on this channel :) [09:49] FireCrotch: Haha no, but not many other channels either, or what ones are you talkling about? [09:50] oxymoron: #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, ##club-ubuntu, some channels on a server that I run [09:52] FireCrotch: I guess I ask for more help on those channels, #kubuntu isnt really active [10:14] hello again === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm [10:17] Hello,how to make ibus support google chrome? [10:18] i get this error, if i login int my kde session: http://imagebin.ca/view/TQGPHs9N.html [10:18] what package do i need to install? [10:23] hello [10:24] I'm having a problem and can't find a sollution in Google/Ubuntu forums [10:26] simeon: you can try asking here, and if someone will have ideas, they'll reply [10:26] I'm using a USB DAC, it's set as default sound device for everything, it works fine in Amarok/Dragon player but no sound in brosers... [10:26] and i don't think it's connected to the alsa problem everybody have [10:28] it works just fine when i set the internal sound card as default - everything works [10:29] and no problem under Ubuntu/Gnome - works fine [10:30] simeon: in system settings -> multimedia, are all relevant options set to your device (e.g. video)? [10:30] yes [10:31] i found only one thread in ubuntuforums from somebody else about the same problem and no replies [10:32] simeon: I think yesterday someone here had similar symptoms (sound in amarok but not in browser), but I wasn't around to hear if they found a solution - maybe in the irc logs [10:33] sorry I don't know enough about the sound systems myself :-) [10:33] mhm, thanks, may be lately I'll check them [10:34] The system reads the USB DAC as: "Burr-Brown from TI" [10:34] if it can help === fale_ is now known as fale === edgeworth is now known as Guest16161 === kayess_ is now known as kayess [11:33] hi, i have a CF-29 laptop that stops responding under install from a USB drive [11:33] it goes to the point that the "kubuntu" screen comes up, but then the scrren goes black and it halts. [11:34] it does not respon on caps lock or numlock [11:35] the light on the usb drive glows, and i have runned a test to check if there is any orrors on the USB drive [11:35] errors* [11:35] i am trying to install 9.10 [11:35] it's either a bad cd burn or the graphics are playing nice - did you do the cd check? [11:35] s/are/aren't [11:36] yes, and that came out ok [11:41] any ideas ? [11:41] perhaps it is possible to use a installer that does not use graphics ? [11:43] supermagnum: is the problem when booting up from usb, or from the HDD after the installer ran? Also, did you try 10.04? [11:44] it did boot windows earlier to day, but i will try to see if it boots windows now [11:45] i havent tried 10.04 [11:45] it boots windows ok [11:46] supermagnum: what I meant is, does the freeze occure before running the installer or after running the installer (when it asks you to restart)? [11:46] it freexes during install [11:47] i get to the language selsection, but thats it [11:47] supermagnum: ok, so basically the problem is that the livecd doesn't start, regardless of installer, if I understand correctly [11:48] yes [11:48] i have the "live cd" on a usb disk [11:51] probably worth trying 10.04, in any case. Maybe some related issue was fixed. [11:52] or try the alternate cd [11:52] !alternate [11:52] The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal [11:53] ok, i will try that [11:55] i can find the hardware specs on it [11:58]