[00:34] <leagris> bonsoir
[00:35] <BUGabundo_TBBT> boa noite leagris
[00:35]  * BUGabundo_TBBT was reading devel-disc ML for the 1st time in months
[00:37] <leagris> BUGabundo_TBBT, :)
[03:07] <Leftmost> When will updated GNOME packages start appearing on packages.u.c for maverick?
[04:25] <pepee> hi. can I ask something about lucid?
[04:25] <pepee> I mean, I have a problem...
[04:26] <Sensiva> pepee please read channel's topic
[04:26] <pepee> yeah, I know, but no one is helping me in #ubuntu
[04:27] <Sensiva> And no one would help you in here, this channel for the next release development
[04:27] <pepee> ok, thanks
[04:27] <pepee> bye
[07:11] <knittl> Ian_Corne: fix for CSD would be better ;)
[08:53] <BUGabundo_remote> humm...the smell of metal breakdown!does tap water fix that? /o\
[10:46] <BUGabundo_remote> I have to say, I love FLOSS development :D
[10:46] <BUGabundo_remote> Open a program, get a crash, report it, discuss it with the devs on IRC, go to sleep, awake up with two emails:
[10:46] <BUGabundo_remote> one saying its triaged; another saying its fixed in trunk
[10:47] <popey> BUGabundo_remote: yeah, thats one of the better things about FLOSS
[10:48] <BUGabundo_remote> also one of the reasons why I run Devel cycles :)
[10:50] <YaManicKill> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/LICD/~3/QcOZ4ON7aKM/20100527 - ha, thats fantastic
[10:51] <BUGabundo_remote> !ot | YaManicKill
[10:53] <YaManicKill> ooops, wrong room lol
[10:53] <YaManicKill> i meant to do it in the room next to this :-P
[10:53] <YaManicKill> ha
[10:53]  * YaManicKill walks out embarrased
[14:38] <z0rt|work> i like FLOSS b/c it promotes dental health
[14:57] <YaManicKill> does testdrive not work until the first alpha is out?
[14:59] <arand> YaManicKill: It needs an iso, so no.
[14:59] <YaManicKill> fairynuff. that'll be why it wasn't working then :-P
[15:09] <Pici> bsmith093: see, now you're here.
[15:09] <bsmith093> this is probably a stupid question, but what language is ubuntu written in? C? C sharp? C++?
[15:10] <Pici> Its not a stupid question, but its not really an on-topic question.  #ubuntu-offtopic would be the best place to discuss that.
[19:43] <dupondje> firefox issue already fixed ? :) want to upgrade :D
[19:58] <billybigrigger> has anyone heard anything about the new font, and its release?
[19:59] <BUGabundo> no
[19:59] <billybigrigger> ola
[20:00] <billybigrigger> is it supposed to be a new system font? or just for artwork?
[20:00] <arand> billybigrigger: system
[20:01]  * BUGabundo wonders when billybigrigger learned Portuguese just to satisfy me 
[20:04] <arand> billybigrigger: http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3621745/ is fairly informative, I think.
[20:06] <arand> Woa, is the new homepage recent or have I just been using directlinks for too long?
[20:11] <dupondje> upgrade started :P
[20:18] <arand> dupondje: mind firefox + metacity = X  ;)
[20:18] <dupondje> to alte :P
[20:18] <dupondje> late*
[20:19] <arand> dupondje: It's easily patchable, but not released yet, I think.
[20:19] <dupondje> bugreport or ? :)
[20:20] <arand> Bug #584287
[20:25] <dupondje> aptitude should be multithreaded imo
[20:25] <dupondje> why not start installing packages while downloading ?
[20:27] <charlie-tca> As I recall, the reason given in the past was that it must first know which packages to install that do not need the packages that are not yet downloaded
[20:28] <BUGabundo> arand: the web page has like 4 days
[20:47] <BUGabundo> what does " sudo hald --daemon=no" do ??
[20:49] <ratcheer> Trying to install first maverick daily. Fails at "Select and install software". How do I report the problem on launchpad? No response so far in the launchpad channel.
[20:49] <poutine> it runs hald via sudo with the --daemon=no flag
[20:50] <dupondje> great :) upgrade stopped @ upgrading aiccu :
[20:51] <charlie-tca> ratcheer: normally wait a day, then report it against either ubiquity for daily-live or debian-installer for alternate
[20:51] <billybigrigger> i was thinking of waiting until A1 before upgrading, but dupondje just confirmed my questions about how safe it is to do so :P
[20:51] <charlie-tca> A lot of the installer get fixed overnight
[20:52] <ratcheer> charlie-tca: Thanks.
[20:53] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: that because you are late!
[20:53] <BUGabundo> you should be here before the 1st wrrk
[20:53] <BUGabundo> *week
[20:53] <BUGabundo> back then, there's NO problem at all
[20:53] <billybigrigger> haha
[20:53] <dupondje> BUGabundo: any idea how to make aiccu upgrade continue ?
[20:54] <dupondje> it sits there now, doing nothing :(
[20:54] <arand> Were are those liveCDs somewhere else than cdimage?
[20:54] <BUGabundo> arand: there are nt
[20:54] <BUGabundo> unitl A1
[20:54] <BUGabundo> dupondje: how is he upgrading ?
[20:54] <BUGabundo> aptitude full-upgrade?
[20:54] <arand> THen what on earth was ratcheer on about?
[20:55] <dupondje> BUGabundo: update-manager -d
[20:55] <ratcheer> arand: The alternate image.
[20:55] <arand> Has that been enabled now?
[20:55] <BUGabundo> erk
[20:55] <BUGabundo> does that even work??
[20:55] <dupondje> yep :P
[20:55]  * BUGabundo checks
[20:55] <charlie-tca> There is no alternate image yet for maverick
[20:55] <BUGabundo> wow
[20:55] <BUGabundo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[20:55] <BUGabundo> alternate images are up
[20:56] <dupondje> it says: Configuration /conf1 differs from /conf2 ... and broken :(
[20:56] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: wrong
[20:56] <arand> Yep
[20:56] <ratcheer> charlie-tca: Yes, there is. I downloaded it, this morning.
[20:56] <dupondje> nothing happens anymore :(
[20:56] <BUGabundo> hahah
[20:56] <BUGabundo> poor charlie-tca.... speaking before confirming :)
[20:56] <charlie-tca> I did! I looked in http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily
[20:57] <ratcheer> Destroyed my testing system, too.
[20:57] <BUGabundo> dupondje: abort, and aptitude full upgrade?
[20:57] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: its there! look again
[20:57] <dupondje> root      3672  0.0  0.0  42544   992 ?        Ssl  21:47   0:00 /usr/sbin/aiccu start
[20:57] <dupondje> was locked :) killed it, and it continues :D
[20:57] <dupondje> respect
[20:57] <dupondje> :D
[20:57] <BUGabundo> power to kill
[20:58] <charlie-tca> I guess I didn't scroll far enough
[20:58] <charlie-tca> It has both lucid and maverick in there
[21:01] <dupondje> BUGabundo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aiccu/+bug/544910
[21:01] <dupondje> exists since some time it seems :(
[21:11] <dupondje> and we are on Maverick /p
[21:11] <dupondje> firefox is flickering a bit :P
[21:13] <arand> dupondje: Is actually FF+metacity working on your side?
[21:13] <dupondje> firefox starts, but its blinking like hell :)
[21:14] <arand> Hmm, RAVE!
[21:14] <dupondje> and there seems to be an issue with bash_completion ?
[21:18] <dupondje> same issue on thunderbird also btw
[21:23] <knittl> and xterm and xmoto and blender and etc.
[21:23] <knittl> :D
[21:24] <knittl> and yes, bash completion also complains here
[21:24] <arand> This would be Bug #584287 right?
[21:24] <knittl> arand: jip
[21:24] <dupondje> fixed bash_completion
[21:24] <dupondje> but can't post patch ofc :P
[21:24] <knittl> seems trivial to fix
[21:25] <dupondje> any idea how I can easly fix firefox ? :D
[21:25] <arand> dupondje: chromium-browser seemed to work ok
[21:25] <knittl> downgrade metacity, install ppa or wait
[21:26] <knittl> epiphany does also work, but it crashes a lot (seems to be caused by flash)
[21:26] <dupondje> arand: you have link of a ppa ? :)
[21:26] <arand> dupondje: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+build/1753412  (32bit)
[21:26] <dupondje> a deb :) as I can't really surf atm :)
[21:26] <dupondje> got 64bit :(
[21:27] <arand> dupondje: ah hang on.
[21:28] <arand> dupondje: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/metacity_2.30.1-0ubuntu1+fta2_amd64.deb AND https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/metacity-common_2.30.1-0ubuntu1+fta2_all.deb AND https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/libmetacity-private0_2.30.1-0ubuntu1+fta2_amd64.deb
[21:30] <dupondje> thx dude ! :D
[21:31] <dupondje> its working now :)
[21:34] <arand> Quite distrubing how locked one becomes when the browser doesn't work :/
[21:34] <knittl> elinks still works!
[21:35] <knittl> but hehe, ya. i'm not surfing much without firefox—epiphany is no match
[21:38] <dupondje> yea its crazy, can't do shit without browser :)
[21:38] <knittl> imagine if everything was in the cloud and you are offline
[21:39] <knittl> chaos!
[21:55] <Hop> hi, any1 knows how to install evdev and lomoco properly with 10,04?
[21:55] <knittl> this is discussion for 10.10
[21:56] <Hop> oops
[21:56] <knittl> ;)
[21:59] <dupondje> fixing first maverick bugs :D
[21:59] <dupondje> hell yea :)
[22:08] <knittl> omg, ooo also crashes metacity :-/
[22:10] <andersk> The bash-completion problem is bug #546794.
[22:12] <billybigrigger> well i feel left out
[22:12] <billybigrigger> i was going to wait until a1, but screw this
[22:13] <billybigrigger> dupondje, you obviously sorted out your upgrade problem, yes?
[22:13] <dupondje> yep
[22:13] <dupondje> it was aiccu
[22:13] <dupondje> broken since 8.04 it seems :(
[22:13] <billybigrigger> never heard of it
[22:14] <billybigrigger> ipv6 stuff eh, well do you use ipv6? is that the problem?
[22:14] <billybigrigger> because i don't so if that's all the problem was i think it's time for me to take the plunge :P
[22:15] <dupondje> aiccu was foobar
[22:15] <dupondje> and metacity ofc
[22:15] <dupondje> but that was fixed bu the packages arand gave me
[22:16] <billybigrigger> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing <-- any word when that will be live?
[22:16] <billybigrigger> i guess around a1? would be nice to see what the showstopper bugs are (if any)
[22:17] <knittl> usually around a1
[22:25] <arand> billybigrigger: #ubuntu-testing might know, unless they're in hibrnation 'till A1
[22:36] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aiccu/+bug/544910 => debdiff attached :) if somebody feels to sponsor :P
[22:53] <bp0> three big trek auctions coming up
[22:53] <bp0> june 12 a pih one
[22:54] <bp0> august ~8th is the "official star trek" propworx one
[22:54] <bp0> at the las vegas con
[22:56] <bp0> and there is Juliens
[22:57] <bp0> the PIH one is the biggest
[22:57] <bp0> Balok head from TOS
[22:57] <bp0> so that's a big deal
[22:57] <bp0> a bunch of tricorders too
[23:04] <charlie-tca> !offtopic