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| hannie | What does \gls mean? | 09:55 |
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| hannie | Should I translate things like: \gls{panel}? | 09:56 |
| hannie | What does \gls mean? | 10:02 |
| hannie | Should I translate things like: \gls{panel} into \gls{paneel}? | 10:03 |
| hannie | I think gls means glossary | 10:06 |
| nisshh | hannie: yes \gls is glossary | 10:09 |
| hannie | So I should translate {panel} | 10:10 |
| nisshh | hannie: i think you can translate the text INSIDE the command but NOT the command itself | 10:10 |
| hannie | ok, is that the same with ss:(English text} where ss is screenshot (not to be translated? | 10:11 |
| hannie | ss: (no smiley!) but screenshot | 10:11 |
| nisshh | hannie: yea sorry thats right | 10:27 |
| nisshh | hannie: dont translate ANY tex commands | 10:27 |
| hannie | I think I am getting the picture. I do NOT translate \gls, ss, ch etc. But I DO translate text between {} | 10:30 |
| hannie | Example: \newglossaryentry{Ethernet port} becomes \newglossaryentry{Ethernet-poort} | 10:31 |
| hannie | Or should it be: \newglossaryentry{Ethernet port}{name={Ethernet-poort} | 10:34 |
| nisshh | hannie: im not the best person to ask about translations | 10:40 |
| nisshh | godbyk: ^^^^ | 10:40 |
| ChrisWoollard | Have you checked the style guide? | 10:40 |
| nisshh | ChrisWoollard: is there translator stuff in there> | 10:41 |
| nisshh | ? | 10:41 |
| hannie | It is rather a matter of syntax, not style | 10:43 |
| hannie | What I need to know is: what happens with the text between {} after \newglossaryentry? Is this the entry of the English or the Dutch glossary? | 10:46 |
| nisshh | thats the name of the actual glossary entry, i im pretty sure you need to translate that | 10:52 |
| hannie | ay, ay, ay, I am not so sure. After \newglossaryentry{text} you get {name={text}, description={text}}. | 10:56 |
| hannie | I DO translate {text} 2 and 3, but I am not sure about {text} 1 | 10:57 |
| thorwil | i would expect there to be one label that shouldn't be translated | 10:57 |
| hannie | And that is \newglossaryentry{text}? | 10:58 |
| hannie | Perhaps it's a good idea to send an email about this to the ubuntu-manual mailing list. I think I will try that. | 11:00 |
| ubuntujenkins | hannie look at /topic it has the stlye guide with lots of information for translators | 11:03 |
| hannie | I tried this: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/topic | 11:12 |
| hannie | Where do I type /topic? | 11:12 |
| ubuntujenkins | type "/topic" in the irc window | 11:12 |
| ubuntujenkins | got it hannie ? | 11:15 |
| hannie | This doesn't work: /topic style guide | 11:15 |
| hannie | I am sorry, I am a beginner here | 11:15 |
| ubuntujenkins | type just "/topic" | 11:16 |
| ubuntujenkins | no problem | 11:16 |
| ubuntujenkins | http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/style-guide.pdf is what you want | 11:16 |
| hannie | Thanks | 11:17 |
| hannie | When I type /topic I get a message: you are not allowed to change the subject | 11:18 |
| ubuntujenkins | strange i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/440321/ | 11:18 |
| hannie | I have downloaded the style-guide.pdf file. I am going to read it. Thanks for the tip | 11:19 |
| hannie | Style-guide.pdf says: \newglossaryentry{⟨keyword⟩}{name={⟨term⟩}, description={⟨definition⟩} where (term) and (definition) are in RED. These should be translated, NOT (keyword), which is in BLACK. | 11:28 |
| hannie | Thank you all for helping me out :) | 11:28 |
| nisshh | hannie: no prob, thanks for persevering through my lame translation knowledge | 11:28 |
| hannie | ;) | 11:29 |
| ChrisWoollard | Hannie: Sorry for not responding further. I have had network problems. | 11:50 |
| hannie | ok, I have downloaded the style-guide.pdf file | 12:03 |
| ChrisWoollard | I hope it helped | 12:05 |
| hannie | There is a lot of reading there :( | 12:05 |
| hannie | But thanks anyway | 12:05 |
| rickspencer3 | humphreybc, hey, so I should use LaTeX to start the developer's manual, right? | 16:11 |
| nisshh | rickspencer3: i didnt know it was you doing the dev manual :) | 16:12 |
| rickspencer3 | nisshh, well, I'm "editor" and I have a few chapters | 16:15 |
| rickspencer3 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/10.10/DeveloperManual | 16:15 |
| nisshh | rickspencer3: cool, i may contribute to it too | 16:15 |
| rickspencer3 | nisshh, http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-developers-manual | 16:16 |
| rickspencer3 | oops | 16:16 |
| rickspencer3 | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-developer-manual | 16:16 |
| humphreybc | rickspencer3: I'm about to head to sleep, it's pretty late here. Have a chat with godbyk, he should be around today | 16:23 |
| humphreybc | LaTeX should be good though yeah | 16:23 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks dude | 16:23 |
| rickspencer3 | I want to make the first commit today or tonight | 16:24 |
| rickspencer3 | sleep well! | 16:24 |
| humphreybc | godbyk's our latex guy so he'll be able to hook you up with some sweet templates etc | 16:24 |
| nisshh | rickspencer3: latex kicks-ass, its awesome for this sort of thing | 16:25 |
| rickspencer3 | I've never used it | 16:25 |
| rickspencer3 | I installed a Lyx, thought that might help me get started | 16:25 |
| rickspencer3 | is the manual in LaTeX format? | 16:26 |
| rickspencer3 | Can I just copy from that? | 16:26 |
| ubuntujenkins | its really easy to learn to write in latex | 16:26 |
| ubuntujenkins | yep manual is in latex | 16:26 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am not sure on exactly what stuff you would need to copy from the manual. | 16:31 |
| nisshh | you would probably have to modify whatever you copy, since the dev manual will probably be structured differently | 16:37 |
| ChrisWoollard | That looks really cool. | 16:40 |
| ChrisWoollard | the developers manual that is. | 16:41 |
| godbyk | home again, home again, jiggity jig. | 17:44 |
| * vish silently loosens a few more bolts in godbyk's cars :p | 17:46 | |
| godbyk | lol | 17:47 |
| godbyk | It did manage to get me to the grocery store and back last night. | 17:47 |
| daker | hey @all | 19:24 |
| flan | Hi, daker. | 19:26 |
| daker | wassup ? | 19:27 |
| ubuntujenkins | the sky :P | 19:29 |
| daker | yeah :p | 19:29 |
| * ubuntujenkins goes back to revision | 19:30 | |
| daker | good luck :) | 19:30 |
| ubuntujenkins | thanks | 19:31 |
| daker | Waw the new website is looking great | 19:44 |
| daker | ubuntu.com | 19:44 |
| c7p | godbyk: ping | 20:42 |
| godbyk | c7p: pong | 20:43 |
| c7p | is there anything new about the greek manual :) | 20:44 |
| godbyk | c7p: not yet. sorry. I've been busy with work and car repair the past couple days. | 20:50 |
| godbyk | I'll try to work on it a bit later tonight, though. | 20:50 |
| c7p | godbyk: ok np :) hope you finish it soon | 20:52 |
| godbyk | c7p: We'll get there, don't worry! The first one always takes a bit longer. :) | 20:54 |
| c7p | godbyk: hehe I know, we had previous experience with index, fonts .. etc! | 20:55 |
| ubuntujenkins | godbyk: ping | 22:26 |
| godbyk | ubuntujenkins: pong | 22:26 |
| ubuntujenkins | I was bored in a lecture and was thinking about the ubuntu-manual program there are a few issues with the current idea | 22:26 |
| godbyk | cool. fire away! | 22:27 |
| ubuntujenkins | we said we would download them from the website but we need to store them in /usr/share/doc/ubuntu-manual. the permissons are root only. It is rather silly to need root permissions to download a pdf | 22:27 |
| * ubuntujenkins is a slow typer | 22:28 | |
| ubuntujenkins | so I am thinking of packaging each one. but we then have to work out how easy it is to get stuff in universe after release | 22:28 |
| ubuntujenkins | also it the user had no interent and got the package at work or an internet cafe. they would then be anoyed that they have to somehow get internet again. | 22:29 |
| godbyk | true. | 22:29 |
| godbyk | we could also store it in their homedir. | 22:29 |
| ubuntujenkins | but then it has to be downloaded for every user on the pc | 22:30 |
| godbyk | (in, say, ~/.local/share/ubuntu-manual/) | 22:30 |
| godbyk | true | 22:30 |
| ubuntujenkins | and ~/.local/share/ubuntu-manual/) its not the convetionally correct way to do it. I think convetions are supposed to be stuck to | 22:31 |
| godbyk | well, there is some convention (XDG directories) and we'd follow that convention if we put it in someone's home directory. | 22:33 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am just asking in #ubuntu-motu about getting stuff in universe after release | 22:33 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 22:33 |
| ubuntujenkins | I did some very rough sketches of the old work flow, which ment i found this problem | 22:34 |
| godbyk | right | 22:35 |
| ubuntujenkins | do the team know its the doc/manual/learning meeting on monday 31st 16.00 utc? | 22:35 |
| godbyk | I don't know if anyone's paid attention to that. | 22:36 |
| godbyk | I may be in a meeting IRL at that time; I'm not sure yet. | 22:36 |
| godbyk | I'll attend if I can, though. | 22:36 |
| ChrisWoollard | I saw the email | 22:36 |
| ubuntujenkins | IRL? | 22:36 |
| godbyk | in real life. | 22:36 |
| ubuntujenkins | ok, i can make it as its a bank holiday for me | 22:37 |
| godbyk | (I think it's one of those old-school acronyms that you kids don't use anymore. :-)) | 22:37 |
| godbyk | Ooh, good point. It's a federal holiday here, too, so maybe I won't have that meeting. | 22:38 |
| * ubuntujenkins hmm #ubuntu-motu is quite | 22:39 | |
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| ubuntujenkins | 83307 | 23:24 |
| * ubuntujenkins ops not empathy | 23:25 | |
| ubuntujenkins | night all | 23:40 |
| ChrisWoollard | It felt like a very quiet evening here today. | 23:53 |
| ChrisWoollard | Goodnight | 23:57 |
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