[05:09] i need to record a bass, some guitars, a drumset, and vocals [05:10] whats the best audio processing software to install? [05:10] i dont have much experience with this kind of software but know how it works so any level of complexity is acceptable [05:10] hey batphone [05:10] what hardware do you have? [05:10] are you going to record all tracks at once? [05:10] how many tracks at once do you need to record? [05:11] Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [05:11] on board card? [05:11] 3 [05:11] yes [05:11] SO [05:11] 8 gigs of ram and 4 cores [05:11] you can record 2 with that card [05:11] 2 channels at once [05:11] that will work [05:11] me bellowing and someone else scratching [05:12] and we can mix the drums and bass. had intended on doing that anyway. [05:12] you need to come up with a hardware method of getting this into the computer [05:12] cleanly [05:12] somekind of mixer with preamps [05:12] there are two sets of audio ports on the motherboard [05:12] let me suggest right now [05:12] i have a yamaha hta 5840 that can combine channels [05:13] you need better gear [05:13] to get into the computer [05:13] thats your bottleneck [05:13] the onboard card [05:13] that being said [05:13] ardour is what you want to track with [05:13] and JACK is what you'll want to use [05:14] i consider audacity to be a 'gateway drug' [05:14] you could start there [05:14] you dont need to use JACK with it [05:14] i have used audacity a little [05:14] and you can do alright with it really [05:15] fruity loops, senterra i think its called [05:15] AND you can export the audio you make in audactiy later [05:15] and use it in ardour [05:15] i have simple needs. im a blues player and need just a good bass going and maybe a beat [05:15] sweet [05:16] yeah [05:16] thats where i would start [05:16] and when audacity aint enough [05:16] move on [05:16] its all free and open source, and ready when you are :) [05:17] theres an i686 version of ardour in here [05:17] guess i should use that [05:17] you need to be running JACK to use ardour [05:17] read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation [05:17] and let me know if you have any questions [05:17] ALSO [05:18] theres a great podcast [05:18] http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ [05:19] dude i really appreciate you helping me out [05:19] anytime [05:19] JACK can be a pain in the ass too [05:19] but quite worth it [05:19] ive been using linux for about 12 years and having dealt with everything from thousands of kernels to the old school isadump stuff .. ubuntu is a breath of fresh air [05:20] lucid is really coming together nicely too [05:20] i was waiting for this kind of thing to hit before i really got into getting the guitars set up [05:20] all the studio software [05:20] you can totally use it now [05:20] professionally [05:22] just out of curiosity, do you know any big studios that run it? [05:22] there was a few medium ones i know [05:22] .. i know of a few here in austin that use lots of macs [05:22] and one large one [05:22] i forget [05:22] i wish i had the links [05:22] the big one was using netjack [05:23] to master tracks somehow [05:23] i forget that too [05:23] the setup [05:23] BUT it was very cool [05:23] it was right on the front page of the site too [05:23] with as much press as the protools rig [05:23] i liked that [05:23] Packet Loss Concealment Code [05:23] nice [05:24] :) [05:24] that is cool. protools, ive seen that [05:24] yeah [05:24] i have a few friends here in texas that do this kind of stuff, but they are windows guys [05:24] thats the one that gets all the press [05:24] BUT ardour is Fn awesome [05:24] and combined with JACK [05:25] there's nothing like it [05:25] im running that big apt-get from the how-to you sent [05:25] cool :) [05:25] does it do video? [05:25] nope [05:25] not yet [05:25] heh.. and when it does it will be our new overlord [05:25] well, not by itself [05:25] BUT [05:25] with JACK [05:25] you can use other jack aware apps [05:25] LIKE [05:26] ardour doesnt to MIDI right now either [05:26] BUT you an use any jack away MIDI app you want [05:26] sudo apt-get install alsa-firmware-loaders alsa-tools alsa-tools-gui alsa-firmware [05:26] i probably need not do this [05:26] and all of it just works together [05:26] with that stuff.. [05:26] i would wait til there is a problem [05:26] and address it [05:27] agred [05:27] yikes. i just saw libxml fly by [05:27] its a lot of stuff [05:27] and sdl.. [05:27] lots of libs [05:27] looks like dependencies for vlc [05:28] have you been to #ardour yet? [05:28] las is the main guy [05:28] no i just went into ubuntu and basically asked the same question and a mod put me in here [05:28] hes the dev [05:28] great guy [05:28] always in that channel helping [05:28] amazing [05:30] i wonder if those guys know how much they are appreciated [05:30] im the type to donate, you know? [05:31] las has a tracker [05:31] http://ardour.org/node [05:32] i think he needs to make 4 or 5 grand a month [05:32] to do it full time [05:32] dont we all [05:32] and so far so good [05:32] its been about a year i think? [05:32] and the developement is on going [05:33] and support [05:33] its a great model [05:35] with hundreds of subs its going to be hard to please everyone on that salary [05:35] theres an interview with him [05:35] not criticizing of course, just making an observation. the world needs people like that. [05:35] on that podcast [05:35] not that old [05:36] by the way [05:36] if your looking for an interface [05:36] i suggest... [05:36] http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodid=1901 [05:36] lots of bang for the buck [05:36] killer preamps [05:36] 4 channels in [05:37] you can use it without the computer [05:37] and it works great with linux/JACK [05:37] i dont have one yet :/ [05:37] i got a bigger 8 channel rig [05:39] wow. i had a zoom effects processor in high school. i really loved that thing until it got stolen. [05:39] these guys really know what they are doing. [05:39] this is very innovative [05:40] well dude.. you have given me some direction here and i probably wont need to come back for a couple weeks as i get it all rolling. [05:40] so again, thanks. [05:40] right on [05:40] good luck :) [05:40] i will idle though so i can benefit from any future wisdom you impart to others ;) [05:41] lol [05:41] you can idle in #opensourcemusicians too if you want [05:41] good idea [05:41] thats the guys i learn from mostly [10:56] holstein: zoom h4 has 4 ins? [10:58] I have one here, but didn't have time to rly play with it :) [10:58] use it couple of times for field recordingg :) [12:36] i think the zoom h4 has 4 inputs, yes, but two are inbuilt mics, the other two are the mic/combo inputs on the bottom [12:37] the H2 has 4 mics, afaik [15:59] artisan: its got 4 channels [15:59] AFAIK you can use the 2 onboard mics and the 2 preamps at the same time with or without a computer [16:12] hi all. i installed 10.4 just now. i installed on the 2nd drive of the laptop. there is no booting of ubuntu since grub i think was written to the mbr of the 2nd drive, not the 1st drive which holds windows 7. (grub was aware of windows) [16:15] how can i correct this? i don´t recall if i was given a choice which harddisk grub would be written.. if not given this choice re-installing will be fruitless. [16:22] yup [16:22] thats another reason why i prefer the installer on the live cd [16:22] and i add the studio packages later [16:23] that being said [16:23] check out [16:23] !grub2 [16:23] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [16:23] if you dont find what you need there, let me know mandje1 [16:25] ok i will. tnx holstein