[05:09] <batphone> i need to record a bass, some guitars, a drumset, and vocals
[05:10] <batphone> whats the best audio processing software to install?
[05:10] <batphone> i dont have much experience with this kind of software but know how it works so any level of complexity is acceptable
[05:10] <holstein> hey batphone
[05:10] <holstein> what hardware do you have?
[05:10] <holstein> are you going to record all tracks at once?
[05:10] <holstein> how many tracks at once do you need to record?
[05:11] <batphone> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[05:11] <holstein> on board card?
[05:11] <batphone> 3
[05:11] <batphone> yes
[05:11] <holstein> SO
[05:11] <batphone> 8 gigs of ram and 4 cores
[05:11] <holstein> you can record 2 with that card
[05:11] <holstein> 2 channels at once
[05:11] <batphone> that will work
[05:11] <batphone> me bellowing and someone else scratching
[05:12] <batphone> and we can mix the drums and bass. had intended on doing that anyway.
[05:12] <holstein> you need to come up with a hardware method of getting this into the computer
[05:12] <holstein> cleanly
[05:12] <holstein> somekind of mixer with preamps
[05:12] <batphone> there are two sets of audio ports on the motherboard
[05:12] <holstein> let me suggest right now
[05:12] <batphone> i have a yamaha hta 5840 that can combine channels
[05:13] <holstein> you need better gear
[05:13] <holstein> to get into the computer
[05:13] <holstein> thats your bottleneck
[05:13] <holstein> the onboard card
[05:13] <holstein> that being said
[05:13] <holstein> ardour is what you want to track with
[05:13] <holstein> and JACK is what you'll want to use
[05:14] <holstein> i consider audacity to be a 'gateway drug'
[05:14] <holstein> you could start there
[05:14] <holstein> you dont need to use JACK with it
[05:14] <batphone> i have used audacity a little
[05:14] <holstein> and you can do alright with it really
[05:15] <batphone> fruity loops, senterra i think its called
[05:15] <holstein> AND you can export the audio you make in audactiy later
[05:15] <holstein> and use it in ardour
[05:15] <batphone> i have simple needs. im a blues player and need just a good bass going and maybe a beat
[05:15] <batphone> sweet
[05:16] <holstein> yeah
[05:16] <holstein> thats where i would start
[05:16] <holstein> and when audacity aint enough
[05:16] <holstein> move on
[05:16] <holstein> its all free and open source, and ready when you are :)
[05:17] <batphone> theres an i686 version of ardour in here
[05:17] <batphone> guess i should use that
[05:17] <holstein> you need to be running JACK to use ardour
[05:17] <holstein> read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[05:17] <holstein> and let me know if you have any questions
[05:17] <holstein> ALSO
[05:18] <holstein> theres a great podcast
[05:18] <holstein> http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/
[05:19] <batphone> dude i really appreciate you helping me out
[05:19] <holstein> anytime
[05:19] <holstein> JACK can be a pain in the ass too
[05:19] <holstein> but quite worth it
[05:19] <batphone> ive been using linux for about 12 years and having dealt with everything from thousands of kernels to the old school isadump stuff .. ubuntu is a breath of fresh air
[05:20] <holstein> lucid is really coming together nicely too
[05:20] <batphone> i was waiting for this kind of thing to hit before i really got into getting the guitars set up
[05:20] <holstein> all the studio software
[05:20] <holstein> you can totally use it now
[05:20] <holstein> professionally
[05:22] <batphone> just out of curiosity, do you know any big studios that run it?
[05:22] <holstein> there was a few medium ones i know
[05:22] <batphone> .. i know of a few here in austin that use lots of macs
[05:22] <holstein> and one large one
[05:22] <holstein> i forget
[05:22] <holstein> i wish i had the links
[05:22] <holstein> the big one was using netjack
[05:23] <holstein> to master tracks somehow
[05:23] <holstein> i forget that too
[05:23] <holstein> the setup
[05:23] <holstein> BUT it was very cool
[05:23] <holstein> it was right on the front page of the site too
[05:23] <holstein> with as much press as the protools rig
[05:23] <holstein> i liked that
[05:23] <batphone> Packet Loss Concealment Code
[05:23] <batphone> nice
[05:24] <holstein> :)
[05:24] <batphone> that is cool. protools, ive seen that
[05:24] <holstein> yeah
[05:24] <batphone> i have a few friends here in texas that do this kind of stuff, but they are windows guys
[05:24] <holstein> thats the one that gets all the press
[05:24] <holstein> BUT ardour is Fn awesome
[05:24] <holstein> and combined with JACK
[05:25] <holstein> there's nothing like it
[05:25] <batphone> im running that big apt-get from the how-to you sent
[05:25] <holstein> cool :)
[05:25] <batphone> does it do video?
[05:25] <holstein> nope
[05:25] <holstein> not yet
[05:25] <batphone> heh.. and when it does it will be our new overlord
[05:25] <holstein> well, not by itself
[05:25] <holstein> BUT
[05:25] <holstein> with JACK
[05:25] <holstein> you can use other jack aware apps
[05:25] <holstein> LIKE
[05:26] <holstein> ardour doesnt to MIDI right now either
[05:26] <holstein> BUT you an use any jack away MIDI app you want
[05:26] <batphone> sudo apt-get install alsa-firmware-loaders alsa-tools alsa-tools-gui alsa-firmware
[05:26] <batphone> i probably need not do this
[05:26] <holstein> and all of it just works together
[05:26] <holstein> with that stuff..
[05:26] <holstein> i would wait til there is a problem
[05:26] <holstein> and address it
[05:27] <batphone> agred
[05:27] <batphone> yikes. i just saw libxml fly by
[05:27] <holstein> its a lot of stuff
[05:27] <batphone> and sdl..
[05:27] <holstein> lots of libs
[05:27] <batphone> looks like dependencies for vlc
[05:28] <holstein> have you been to #ardour yet?
[05:28] <holstein> las is the main guy
[05:28] <batphone> no i just went into ubuntu and basically asked the same question and a mod put me in here
[05:28] <holstein> hes the dev
[05:28] <holstein> great guy
[05:28] <holstein> always in that channel helping
[05:28] <holstein> amazing
[05:30] <batphone> i wonder if those guys know how much they are appreciated
[05:30] <batphone> im the type to donate, you know?
[05:31] <holstein> las has a tracker
[05:31] <holstein> http://ardour.org/node
[05:32] <holstein> i think he needs to make 4 or 5 grand a month
[05:32] <holstein> to do it full time
[05:32] <batphone> dont we all
[05:32] <holstein> and so far so good
[05:32] <holstein> its been about a year i think?
[05:32] <holstein> and the developement is on going
[05:33] <holstein> and support
[05:33] <holstein> its a great model
[05:35] <batphone> with hundreds of subs its going to be hard to please everyone on that salary
[05:35] <holstein> theres an interview with him
[05:35] <batphone> not criticizing of course, just making an observation. the world needs people like that.
[05:35] <holstein> on that podcast
[05:35] <holstein> not that old
[05:36] <holstein> by the way
[05:36] <holstein> if your looking for an interface
[05:36] <holstein> i suggest...
[05:36] <holstein> http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodid=1901
[05:36] <holstein> lots of bang for the buck
[05:36] <holstein> killer preamps
[05:36] <holstein> 4 channels in
[05:37] <holstein> you can use it without the computer
[05:37] <holstein> and it works great with linux/JACK
[05:37] <holstein> i dont have one yet :/
[05:37] <holstein> i got a bigger 8 channel rig
[05:39] <batphone> wow. i had a zoom effects processor in high school. i really loved that thing until it got stolen.
[05:39] <batphone> these guys really know what they are doing.
[05:39] <batphone> this is very innovative
[05:40] <batphone> well dude..  you have given me some direction here and i probably wont need to come back for a couple weeks as i get it all rolling.
[05:40] <batphone> so again, thanks.
[05:40] <holstein> right on
[05:40] <holstein> good luck :)
[05:40] <batphone> i will idle though so i can benefit from any future wisdom you impart to others ;)
[05:41] <holstein> lol
[05:41] <holstein> you can idle in #opensourcemusicians too if you want
[05:41] <batphone> good idea
[05:41] <holstein> thats the guys i learn from mostly
[10:56] <artisan> holstein: zoom h4 has 4 ins?
[10:58] <artisan> I have one here, but didn't have time to rly play with it :)
[10:58] <artisan> use it couple of times for field recordingg :)
[12:36] <Blank__> i think the zoom h4 has 4 inputs, yes, but two are inbuilt mics, the other two are the mic/combo inputs on the bottom
[12:37] <Blank__> the H2 has 4 mics, afaik
[15:59] <holstein> artisan: its got 4 channels
[15:59] <holstein> AFAIK you can use the 2 onboard mics and the 2 preamps at the same time with or without a computer
[16:12] <mandje1> hi all. i installed 10.4 just now. i installed on the 2nd drive of the laptop. there is no booting of ubuntu since grub i think was written to the mbr of the 2nd drive, not the 1st drive which holds windows 7. (grub was aware of windows)
[16:15] <mandje1> how can i correct this?  i don´t recall if i was given a choice which harddisk grub would be written..  if not given this choice re-installing will be fruitless.
[16:22] <holstein> yup
[16:22] <holstein> thats another reason why i prefer the installer on the live cd
[16:22] <holstein> and i add the studio packages later
[16:23] <holstein> that being said
[16:23] <holstein> check out
[16:23] <holstein> !grub2
[16:23] <holstein> if you dont find what you need there, let me know mandje1
[16:25] <mandje1> ok i will. tnx holstein