/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/28/#kubuntu-devel.txt

freglahh, pics :)00:02
freglapachelogger: why are we kind of grinning on the ones we are on?00:03
apacheloggerfregl: would you prefer grumpy faces?00:03
freglgood pics these are 00:06
apachelogger*nod*00:06
apacheloggerkubotu: np00:18
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Daft Punk is Playing at my House (Soulwax Shibuya Re-Remix)" by LCD Soundsystem [Most Of The Remixes...] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more00:18
apacheloggerhm00:30
apacheloggerhttp://pastebin.ca/187317000:31
apacheloggermadness00:31
lex79apachelogger: who can raise the build score of that? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/1.1.17-1ubuntu4/+build/176077300:54
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apacheloggerhm01:38
apacheloggerlex79: NCommander for example01:38
lex79thx01:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I think it would be much better if knh had a init() slot and you singleshot 0 to this, intead of building everything in the constructor 01:39
apacheloggerIIRC qtimer will only shoot once resources are available01:40
apacheloggerhence making the loading of the module less blocking01:40
JontheEchidnahrm, semi-lazy initialization, interesting01:41
JontheEchidnaUgh, libqt4-assistant still has rdepends01:45
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nixternalman, I need to clean up my computer area. shit keeps falling off of shelves and landing perfectly on the power strip, shutting my server off...twice in a week this has happened03:56
nixternali was at portillos trying to ssh into my machine with no luck...hate when that happens03:56
jussinixternal: LOL05:58
NCommanderRiddell: so the problem with Qt4 is that lzma compression takes really really long :-/06:51
NCommanderRiddell: changing the compress to something less CPU intensive will likely solve the build timeout issue06:52
ScottKNCommander: Once we have xz support, will that help?07:15
NCommanderScottK: TBH, I'm not sure how much number crunching xz does07:32
Nightroseapachelogger: lol you don't look old on that pic07:32
NCommanderBut crunching the dbg debs down thats a TON of CPU time and RAM07:32
NCommanderIts been going for about 4 hours now07:32
ScottKNCommander: We don't have space issues on armel.  I think a patch that dropped lzma on just armel would be fine.  Could you do such a change?07:33
NCommanderScottK: if we're shipping the dbg debs on the CD, I think we have bigger issues ;-)07:36
NCommanderScottK: let me talk to lamont, he may just want to raise the timeout instead of eating more disk space07:37
sabdfl1apachelogger: i know someone who would :-)07:45
NCommanderlex79: sorry, didn't see you in the backscroll for the rescore request, but the build has already finished08:52
\shmoins10:23
\shdo we already have kde 4.5 for lucid somewhere available? 10:24
Riddellnot yet10:25
RiddellQuintasan: ping10:42
Riddellwhat's the status of kdebase?  it's making kde-standard uninstallable10:43
ScottKNCommander: No, I was thinking skipping lzma for all of qt4-x11 on armel.10:48
NCommanderScottK: oh. I thought we had actually done that on a previous release11:06
NCommander(or maybe a different package)11:06
Riddellwe may have done, I don't recall11:08
ryanakcahmmm. Was 10.04 KNE or KNR?11:13
ryanakcaAlso, any news on Ofir's theme?11:13
RiddellKNR11:13
Riddellno, it's been assigned to squinky but not heard anything else yet, am getting grumpy11:14
Riddellfeel free to poke him11:14
ryanakcasquinky@canonical.com ?11:14
ryanakcaScottK: Done, http://www.kubuntu.org/reviews11:16
Riddellryanakca: squinky on freenode11:17
ryanakcaRiddell: OK, will poke him11:18
* ScottK imagines ryanakca searching through the jungles of freenode with a spear.11:26
ScottKThanks ryanakca.11:26
Riddelllex79: what's the status of kdesdk?11:53
shadeslayerok quick question,i have loads of missing files,ive adjusted some of them in the .install files in debian/ but i cant adjust this one usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kajongg/index.docbook11:56
Riddellcan't adjust?11:56
shadeslayerwith reference to kdegames11:56
shadeslayerRiddell: like which install file does that go to11:56
Riddellkmahjongg.install11:57
shadeslayerRiddell: i thought so too,but why is it named kajongg then? :P11:57
Riddellhum, missing an m11:57
shadeslayeryep..11:57
shadeslayerso either its a upstream problem.. or we need a new .install file for it :P11:58
shadeslayerRiddell: ok and what about  usr/lib/liblibkcardgame.so11:58
shadeslayershould i put it in kdegames-card-data.install ?11:59
shadeslayerAll the .install files are here : http://pastebin.com/rMCFU0Sz11:59
Riddellseems like kajongg is a new game12:02
shadeslayerah.. so new .install file :)12:02
shadeslayerRiddell: then why do i get only documentation files as missing,wheres the rest of the game :P12:03
Riddellso add an entry in debian/control and a new .install file12:03
Riddelluse this for description http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kajongg?content=10320612:03
shadeslayerok12:03
Tm_Tyes kajongg is new game, went thru review this spring12:04
Riddell"liblibkcardgame.so" liblib? that doesn't seem right12:06
shadeslayeryep.. thats what i thought12:07
Riddellfind . -name CMakeLists.txt  | xargs grep kcardgam12:07
Riddellthat tells me it's from kpat12:07
Riddellso put it into kpat.install12:07
shadeslayerTm_T: btw why doesnt dh_install --list-missing show any binaries for kajongg12:07
shadeslayerRiddell: okies.. no worries about liblib?12:08
Riddellshadeslayer: upstream problem, they should fix the same and decide if it's versioned or not (if not should be in /usr/lib/kde4/)12:09
Riddellshadeslayer: so when it's all packaged please e-mail the kdegames list and tell them of the issue12:09
Riddells/fix the same/fix the name/12:09
RiddellIF(PYQT4_FOUND AND PYKDE4_FOUND AND SQLITE_FOUND) SET(INSTALL_KAJONGG TRUE)12:11
Riddellshadeslayer: so kajongg needs python-kde4 and sqlite build-deps, it doesn't give any warning if you don't have those (I'll fix that in svn)12:11
shadeslayerRiddell: ill add those to the control file12:12
Riddellthen rebuild and see what files kajongg adds12:12
shadeslayerRiddell: any particular version?12:13
shadeslayerfor the 2 deps..12:13
shadeslayer!info sqlite maverick12:14
ubottusqlite (source: sqlite): command line interface for SQLite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.17-6build2 (maverick), package size 16 kB, installed size 88 kB12:14
Riddellshadeslayer: actually just do  DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DINSTALL_KAJONGG12:19
Riddellshadeslayer: actually just do  DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DINSTALL_KAJONGG:BOOL=TRUE12:19
shadeslayerRiddell: hehe.. ok ill add that to rules12:20
Riddellshadeslayer: then in debian/control on the kajongg package add a manual Depends: python-kde4, python-twisted, libqt4-sql-sqlite12:20
shadeslayerRiddell: ok12:22
shadeslayerRiddell: should i also add ${shlibs:Depends} ?12:22
Riddellmay as well yes12:23
shadeslayerRiddell: btw ive put usr/lib/libpala/libpala-config.cmake in palapeli.install12:26
shadeslayeri hope thats right12:26
Riddellshould be fine there12:27
Riddellshadeslayer: kajongg will install a  load of .py files which we want and a load of .pyc files which we don't, you can ignore the .pyc files12:28
Riddellshadeslayer: kajongg also needs a Depends on python-qt4-sql12:29
shadeslayerRiddell: how do i remove the .pyc file?12:30
shadeslayer*files12:30
shadeslayerjust leave them alone? :P12:31
Riddellyes12:32
Riddellshadeslayer: looks like kajongg also needs a depends on kdegames-mahjongg-data12:34
Riddellruns now but can't start a game, guess it has some work to do12:37
shadeslayerRiddell: usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4 should be in libkdegames5.install or libkdegames5-dev.install ?12:37
shadeslayersame thing for usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4.5.012:38
Riddellin kolf.install12:38
shadeslayerRiddell: i tried that,i got a error saying that it could find usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.412:39
shadeslayerRiddell: btw did you see this :   pkg-kde-tools: Depends: libdpkg-perl (>= 1.15.5~) but it is not installable12:45
shadeslayerRiddell: got a few warnings http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/ZsqpAWiw12:46
Riddellwarnings can be ignored, just a result of upstreams library issue12:48
shadeslayerok.. well i think this build will go to completion12:48
shadeslayeryep12:49
Riddellyay12:49
shadeslayerin the end i got loads of dpkg-genchanges: warning: duplicate files list entry for file kdegames-card-data_4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb (line 26)12:49
shadeslayerRiddell: oh noes W: kajongg: empty-binary-package12:50
Riddellshadeslayer: did you add all the .py files to kajongg?12:50
shadeslayerRiddell: which files? i added the doc files12:50
Riddellif you built with -DINSTALL_KAJONGG:BOOL=TRUE it should install the kajongg files too12:51
Riddell(it'll need a full rebuild)12:51
shadeslayerah thats why12:53
shadeslayeri didnt do a full rebuild12:53
shadeslayerdoing a full build.. will take about 20 mins12:54
Riddellshadeslayer: that pkg-kde-tools is in lucid or maverick?12:56
shadeslayerRiddell: lucid12:57
Riddellthat'll be lex79 trying to get kdebindings working12:57
shadeslayerRiddell: ah.. ok,lots of FTBFS due to that ;)12:57
Riddellfooey12:58
shadeslayerRiddell: hehe.. had to wait for kdeartwork to build after 15 hours or so and voila,FTBFS :P12:59
shadeslayerill be back in a few mins ;)13:00
Riddellgroovy, upgrade succeded without overwrite errors13:10
shadeslayerRiddell: lucid?13:13
shadeslayerkdegames is 72 pc build btw13:13
txwikingerRiddell: Did you catch my comment yesterday, that I merged kdevelop and kdevplatform?13:14
Riddelltxwikinger: yes just looking at it now13:15
txwikingerRiddell: cool13:15
Riddelltxwikinger: those l10n packages are crazy but ho hum, we'll follow debian13:15
txwikingeryeah.. they are13:15
txwikingerI tried to get it as close as possible to debian13:15
Riddelltxwikinger: I'll bump the build-dep to 4.4.80 to it gets the new beta libraries and upload to ninjas PPA13:15
txwikingerok13:16
shadeslayerRiddell: btw what do i put in the changelog of kdegames,there were a insane amount of edhits13:16
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rgreeningmornin13:16
shadeslayer*edits13:16
shadeslayerrgreening: hey :)13:16
rgreeningo/ shadeslayer13:16
txwikingerhey rgreening13:17
Riddellshadeslayer: just summaries the main changes.  the new packages and edits to debian/rules.13:17
shadeslayerRiddell: ok.13:17
Riddellshadeslayer: oh you can close that MIR bug for openal now that we know gluon isn't needed13:17
shadeslayerRiddell: it was assigned to someone13:17
shadeslayerbug 58632413:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 586324 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "[MIR]libopenal-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58632413:18
* txwikinger wonders what to do today13:18
shadeslayertxwikinger: can you package kdegames for lucid?13:19
shadeslayerim short of time....13:19
txwikingerI can have a look13:19
txwikingerwhat needs to be done? merge?13:19
shadeslayertxwikinger: well most if the work has been done,ill be uploading maverick package in a few mins13:19
shadeslayertxwikinger: 4.4.80 release13:20
txwikingerah13:20
Riddelltxwikinger: it's a backport from maverick he's after13:20
shadeslayerjust a backport :)13:20
txwikingerAh13:20
txwikingerok.. I have a look13:20
txwikingertell me when and where I get the stuff from maverick13:20
shadeslayertxwikinger: ninja ppa will provide you the maverick package13:20
shadeslayertxwikinger: i havent uploaded yet13:21
txwikingerok13:21
shadeslayerits still building locally here...13:21
* txwikinger is burning up... It is morning and already as hot as in Texas13:22
shadeslayertxwikinger: its 45oC here13:23
txwikingerwell.. not in the morning I hope13:23
rgreeningha. It's like 4 degrees here... brrrr13:24
shadeslayertxwikinger: its evening :P13:25
shadeslayeri have this huge cooler right next to the laptop and my face :P13:25
txwikingerDo you have a watertight laptop for the pool?13:25
shadeslayerone of these http://www.asia.ru/images/img/alibaba/photo/50195554/Movable_Air_Cooler.jpg13:26
shadeslayerhehe... 13:26
txwikingerDon't get my wife any ideas13:26
txwikingerI bet you can't pay the energy costs for it13:27
shadeslayertxwikinger: well.. its quite efficient13:27
shadeslayerit consumes 1/4 the total electricity of a Air Conditioner13:27
txwikingerA/c's are destroying the fabric of society :p13:27
txwikingerBefore A/C's people would spend time outside and talk with each other.. now they all bunker in inside and watch TV13:28
shadeslayertxwikinger: true..13:28
shadeslayersame thing goes for the internet13:28
txwikingerwell.. there are Internet cafes13:29
txwikingerand to be fair.. there are also sport bars13:30
shadeslayerRiddell: btw i dont put the .pyc files in kajongg.install right?13:30
apacheloggersabdfl: oh, who would? ^^13:31
Riddellshadeslayer: correct13:31
apacheloggerNightrose: I look like 25 on that picture :P13:32
sabdflmy girlfriend!13:33
rgreeningRiddell, lex79: issues for lucid backport... pkg-kde-tools: Depends: libdpkg-perl (>= 1.15.5~) but it is not installable13:33
rgreeningThe package is not installable and breaks lucid builds13:33
Riddellrgreening: lex79's doing, I think just delete it for now13:34
rgreeningRiddell: do you remember why we needed to backport pkg-kde-tools to lucid?13:35
rgreeningwas it kdebindings?13:35
Riddellrgreening: yes13:35
Riddellbut it's not working like that so just delete it until lex79 comes back for another look13:35
rgreeningok. Ill delete.13:35
Riddellor we could just not backport kdebindings13:36
rgreeninglex79: when you get back, we need to rethink pkg-kde-tools.. breaks everything else in lucid13:36
debfxI can backport pkg-kde-tools if lex79 hasn't started doing it13:36
rgreeningtrue.. but prefer to have it if we can13:36
debfxbasically some changes from ubuntu2 need to be reverted13:36
rgreeningdebfx: it was backported... but breaks things.13:36
rgreeningdebfx: if you can fix..13:37
rgreeningit would be appreciated13:37
rgreeningIm going to delete it from the PPA for now. debfx do you need to grab a copy first?13:38
rgreening5... 4... 3...13:38
debfxrgreening: were there any changes?13:38
rgreening2... 1...13:38
rgreening:)13:38
rgreeningdunno13:38
rgreeninglex79 did it13:39
debfxcompared to the maverick version13:39
rgreeningpossibly13:39
rgreeninggrab it quickly then...13:39
rgreeningrun run13:39
rgreening:)13:39
debfxwhere is it? I don't think I have access to it ^^13:39
rgreeningdebfx: ninja ppa... you not a NINJA yet?13:42
rgreeningwe need to fix that :)13:42
debfxrgreening: nope13:42
Riddelldebfx: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa13:43
RiddellI just added you13:43
rgreeningdebfx: then, just start from the maverixk package and work from there13:43
rgreeningoh.. cool13:43
rgreeningRiddell: ++13:43
debfxRiddell: thanks :)13:43
rgreeningok, debfx, grab the package and let me know when you have it so I can delete it from the PPA13:44
rgreeningbrb13:44
shadeslayerwheee... kdegames is done13:47
debfxrgreening: it's gone now13:48
Nightroseapachelogger: you don't13:48
shadeslayerweird E: kajongg: python-script-but-no-python-dep ./usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/kajongg.py13:48
apacheloggerNightrose: right, more like > 25 :(13:48
Nightroseno no no13:48
Riddellshadeslayer: you can ignore that as long as you added the python-kde4 depends13:48
shadeslayeryes i have13:49
Riddellshadeslayer: rocking, job done, upload to ninjas PPA and bzr13:50
rgreeningty debfx13:52
shadeslayerRiddell: ill upload to ninjas,bzr will have to wait a while,i have to go somewhere right now13:55
debfxRiddell: are the qt4-x11 and qtwebkit upstream version numbers going to stay synced?14:00
rgreeningRiddell: are you backporting kdevplatform to lucid? we have a depwait on it for some package in PPA.14:02
rgreeninghmm... my bad, its depwait in maverick.. retrying.14:07
rgreeningbut we prob want kdevplatform and kdevelop for lucid14:07
rgreeningQuintasan: you around14:12
Riddelldebfx: unsure, it'll have a lower version number when it's released standalone14:13
debfxRiddell: libqt4-webkit-dev should depend on libqt4-dev, I guess it could just depend on >= 4:4.7~beta114:33
* txwikinger wonders if he needs access to the ninja ppa14:34
Riddelldebfx: mm yes it should14:34
Riddelltxwikinger: what's your lp id?14:34
txwikingerRiddell: txwikinger14:34
RiddellNCommander: could you pimp this build please?  upstream have released and waiting several days for a build is rediculous https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1/+build/175653714:35
Riddelltxwikinger: added https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa14:35
txwikingerRiddell: thanks.. works14:36
rgreeningQuintasan, shadeslayer, lex79, Riddell: kdebase, kdegames, kdesdk and kdeutils are respectively tagged as being in progress by you for Maverick. Any status?14:45
NCommanderRiddell: kicked14:45
* rgreening wearing release hat14:45
* rgreening puls out the indy classic whip14:45
* NCommander eats rgreening's hat14:46
rgreeningand get a first crack with the whip14:46
rgreeningo~~ *craaAAckk*14:47
Riddellrgreening: kdeutils just uploaded14:50
Riddellrgreening: I've stolen kdesdk off lex79 and am doing that now14:51
rgreening:)14:51
rgreeningkoolios14:51
rgreeningI'll take kdebase then I guess14:51
rgreeningbrb14:51
Riddellrgreening: Quintasan seemed to suggest he was done with that14:54
Riddelland only had a query about symbols14:54
rgreeningRiddell: hmm... was he coming back to upload?14:54
RiddellI guess he will this European evening14:55
rgreeningok.. then I'll look at some of the lucid backports that are not yet done...14:56
Riddellrgreening: txwikinger is down for kdegames14:57
Riddelland I'll do kdesdk backport14:57
txwikingerRiddell: is it up yet?14:57
rgreeningI'll look at oxygen icons which isnt backported.14:58
rgreeningkdegames wasnt done for maverick yet. shadeslayer was workin on it14:58
Riddellshadeslayer said he was uploading to ninjas but I don't see it :(14:58
rgreeningyeah14:59
rgreeningmebe forgot to comit14:59
rgreeningkdevelop and kdevplatform need backporting also to lucid if txwikinger wishes...14:59
txwikingerrgreening: ok no problem14:59
rgreeningRiddell: kdevelop keeps failing in maverick15:00
rgreeningRiddell: as did your upload of kdeutils15:00
txwikingermust be the 4.4 stuff.. I looked at the log it is an invalid cast15:01
rgreeningFound Python library: PYTHON_LIBRARY-NOTFOUND15:01
Riddellfixng kdeutils15:01
rgreeningkdeutils ^15:01
Riddellthat's fine15:01
txwikingerRiddell: do you want me to look at the kdevelop stuff in ninja too?15:01
Riddellit's shared-mime-info which is the error15:01
rgreeningtxwikinger: kdevplatform can be backported15:03
rgreeningit built fine in maverick15:03
txwikingeryeah15:03
rgreeningkdevelop for maverick failed to build txwikinger, if you want to look at that15:04
txwikingerrgreening: I have a look.. I am sure it build fine for me15:04
rgreeningunless Riddell wishes15:04
rgreening:)15:04
rgreeninglol15:04
txwikingerhowever, I don't have the ninja stuff on my maverick :)15:04
Riddell"../../../../languages/cpp/codegen/unresolvedincludeassistant.cpp:39: error: 'Ui' has not been declared15:05
Riddellhum, random build failure15:05
Riddellmaybe kdevelop doesn't like qt 4.7 or kde 4.515:05
txwikingerRiddell: yep that's what I think15:05
txwikingerI will look at it 15:05
txwikingerI will first do the backports15:06
Riddellor maybe it needs 10_private_libs_soversion.diff which I removed15:06
txwikingerRiddell: well.. did you make the changes in the code too?15:08
Riddellno15:08
txwikingerthat might be a problem :)15:08
txwikingerfor the backport I add ~lucid1~ppa1?15:11
Riddellyes15:11
txwikingerRiddell: for the backport, should I try to get rid of the soversion patch, or should you leave it in?15:12
Riddelltxwikinger: if it's needed then keep it, but I don't see why we would need it when Debian doesn't15:13
txwikingerRiddell: ok. I will try to remove it.. I think I know what needs to be changed15:14
txwikingerRiddell: for the backport you need the debdiff to the current lucid package, right?15:14
Riddellfor the backport a .dsc and .debian.tar.gz is fine15:15
txwikingerok15:16
apacheloggerRiddell: bug 583735 is acked15:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 583735 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu Maverick) "Akonadi self-test comes up if startup takes too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58373515:18
Riddellapachelogger: accepted15:23
RiddellNCommander: did we come to any conclusions about qt4 on arm?15:26
rgreeningRiddell: kdesdk failed15:30
NCommanderRiddell: lzma sucks.15:33
NCommanderRiddell: and locks up the processor. We'll likely just change it to bz2 and see if it fixs it15:33
RiddellNCommander: so you'll take care of it or it's something I should do?15:34
Riddellrgreening: fix uploaded15:34
NCommanderRiddell: I'm on it, although you may have to sponsor15:34
debfxRiddell: qtwebkit doesn't have a bzr branch, should I create one?15:34
rgreeningRiddell: cool.15:34
Riddelltxwikinger: compiling kdevelop on maverick with that patch back15:34
Riddelldebfx: yes please do15:34
txwikingerRiddell: ok15:35
rgreeningRiddell: wrt  bug 583735, is that fix in KDE 4.4.80?15:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 583735 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu Maverick) "Akonadi self-test comes up if startup takes too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58373515:40
rgreeningRiddell, txwikinger: I'll backport kdevplatform now...15:43
txwikingerrgreening: fine :)15:43
rgreeningtxwikinger: I assume you are working kdevelop?15:43
txwikingerWell.. I have to write an invoice that someone is waiting for and then I will work on kdevelop :)15:44
rgreeningRiddell: should we have a bzr repo for kdevplatform?15:44
txwikingerif you have one for kdevelop, you probably should have one for kdevplatform15:45
rgreeningwhats the correct way to add a new project for me to add kdevplatform to bzr? Riddell?15:53
agateauRiddell: will you ship Qt 4.7 in Maverick alpha1 ?15:55
rgreeningdebfx: hey, how did you add the new qtwebkit branch15:59
txwikingerrgreening: I am working on the kdevelop backport now16:01
rgreeningcool16:01
txwikingerrgreening: Are we somehow on some timeline with that?16:02
rgreeningno, just trying to get everything uploaded and backported so we can move on to other things :)16:03
txwikingerrgreening: :D16:04
debfxrgreening: what exactly do you want to know?16:04
rgreeningI tried to do it from the desktop shell using bzr commands but it failed. Did you need to go to launchpad first and make a branck?16:05
rgreeningbranch16:05
* rgreening still has some issues with lp and bzr16:05
rgreeninglol16:05
txwikingerrgreening: Is kdevplatform already uploaded?16:05
debfxno, just bzr push lp:~kubuntu-members/qtwebkit/ubuntu16:06
rgreeningtxwikinger: you mean in bzr or backported?16:06
txwikingerbackported16:06
rgreeningtxwikinger: just uploaded16:06
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txwikingerkdevelop depends on it, and pbuilder does not build if it is missing16:06
rgreeningdebfx: did you bzr init and add the files first?16:06
rgreeningdebfx: this is what I am getting: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~kubuntu-members/kdevplatform/ubuntu": No such project: kdevplatform16:07
* txwikinger maybe should add it locally16:07
rgreeningtxwikinger: should build momentarily16:07
txwikingerah.. ok.. then I will wait16:08
* txwikinger needs to recreate pbuilder base with backports anyway16:08
Riddellagateau: yes 4.7 is already in maverick16:08
debfxrgreening: maybe the project "kdevplatform" has to exist on lp16:08
Riddellrgreening: fill in the form at launchpad.net/projects16:09
agateauRiddell: ok, time to rebase my menubar ppa on 4.7 then16:09
shtylman_agateau: is your dbus menu patch in 4.7 now?16:09
agateaushtylman_: no it's still based on 4.616:09
shtylman_(dbus menubar that is)16:09
shtylman_I see16:09
agateauit used to be based on 4.7 but I backported it and carried on working on 4.616:10
agateauso I need to forwardport it :)16:10
shtylman_heh16:10
Riddellrgreening: wrt  bug 583735 I think apachelogger was waiting on how 4.5 turned out pim-wise (also kolabsys will be doing pim stuff for us this cycle so it'll have no bugs at all)16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 583735 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu Maverick) "Akonadi self-test comes up if startup takes too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58373516:10
Riddelltxwikinger: kdevelop builds fine with that patch, any idea why we need it and Debian doesn't?16:11
txwikingerRiddell: I think I do16:11
txwikingerI saw some lines in the diff that seem to do something different16:11
txwikingerif it has some time, I can try to change it in a way that we don't need the patch16:12
Riddelltxwikinger: or we could just keep it16:12
txwikingerI don't think it matters a lot16:12
Riddelluploaded to PPA with patch16:13
txwikingerhowever, just to make it easier for the future it might be good to be able to remove it16:13
shadeslayertxwikinger: kdegames is up in ninja ppa,im trying a local lucid build,if that completes,you wont have to do a single thing16:13
txwikingershadeslayer: cool16:13
shadeslayerthen i can go try out meego :P16:13
shadeslayerRiddell: pkg-kde-tools is fine for maverick right?16:14
Riddellshadeslayer: yes16:14
txwikingershadeslayer: I got a failed to build for maverick16:15
shadeslayerhmm16:15
shadeslayer2 conflicting statements :P16:15
shadeslayertxwikinger: did your build die locally as well?16:16
txwikingershadeslayer: No.. I got an e-mail :)16:16
shadeslayertxwikinger: i meant in a chroot :P16:16
rgreeningRiddell: Im lost. I try to do it under ~kubuntu-members, but end up with a +junk in the URL16:16
shadeslayertxwikinger: Riddell bah kdegames failed in ppa16:17
txwikingerthe patchsys-quilt.mk or something like this is not found16:17
* txwikinger wonders how to get the nickname debate of the bugsquad ML16:18
shadeslayertxwikinger: same thing here16:18
shadeslayerRiddell: pkg-kde-tools borked in macerick as well :P16:18
txwikingerbtw.. I got some feedback to the Hug Day.. there were some requests we should choose a different day than ubuntu16:19
shadeslayertxwikinger: saw that on the ML16:20
shadeslayertxwikinger: i think their pov is right16:20
txwikingerwell.. not sure about right.. but I see some merit in it16:21
shadeslayerhow utterly weird...16:22
txwikingerrgreening: which backport is kdevplatform supposed to appear? the ppa or ubuntu-backport?16:22
shadeslayersame package version of pkg-kde-tools in ppa and in my chroot,still the build fails16:22
rgreeningtxwikinger: sry. just realized I pushed it to my personal PPA. Just re-uploaded to ninjas16:23
debfxshadeslayer: what's the error message?16:23
shadeslayerdebfx: /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk:7: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk: No such file or directory16:23
txwikingerrgreening: ninjas?16:23
shadeslayertxwikinger: ninja ppa16:24
rgreeningtxwikinger: do you have access to ~kubuntu-ninjas?16:24
txwikingerrgreening: yes16:24
rgreeningthen, thats where it'll be16:24
txwikingerI was just wondering16:24
rgreening:)16:24
shadeslayertxwikinger: :P16:24
Riddellshadeslayer: so build-dep on quilt16:24
rgreeningwe haven't moved stuff from ninjas yet16:24
txwikingerah.. ok.. that was probably the point I was missing :)16:25
rgreeningRiddell: I give up on creating a branch in lp...16:25
* txwikinger works on adding the ninja-ppa to his pbuilderrc16:25
Riddellrgreening: for what?16:25
rgreeningkdevplatform for hosting the debian dir16:25
rgreeningit doesn't yet exist16:25
Riddellrgreening: did you create a project?16:26
debfxshadeslayer: does the package use source format 3.0?16:27
shadeslayerdebfx: yes16:27
Riddellrgreening: easy form to fill in https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new16:27
shadeslayerdebfx: i thought since there were no patches i could remove quilt16:27
debfxshadeslayer: does debian/patches exist in your local package?16:28
txwikingerRiddell: kdevelop failed again16:28
shadeslayerdebfx: yes..16:28
shadeslayerdebfx: but it has no files16:28
debfxshadeslayer: you need to remove it16:29
debfxshadeslayer: debian-qt-kde.mk checks if the dir exists and includes quilt if it does16:29
Riddelltxwikinger: same issue :(16:29
shadeslayerdebfx: well ... i just uploaded with quilt :P16:29
txwikingerRiddell: yes.. maybe it has rather to do with the new Qt or KDE version16:29
shadeslayerdebfx: should i upload without quilt and debian/patches ?16:30
shadeslayeror should i leave it16:30
txwikingerDo we backport Qt4.7 and KDE4.4 to lucid too?16:31
Riddelltxwikinger: "error: ui_custom_include_paths.h: No such file or directory16:31
debfxshadeslayer: doesn't matter16:31
debfxas long as it builds :)16:31
Riddelltxwikinger: that should be built from kdevelop-4.0.0/languages/cpp/codegen/ui/custom_include_paths.ui16:31
Riddelltxwikinger: I'm building in a maverick chroot with the latest qt and kdelibs et al16:31
Riddelltxwikinger: yes ninjas is backporting qt4.7 and kde 4.516:32
shadeslayerdebfx: :P16:32
rgreeningRiddell: using that form how do I make it appear under ~kubuntu-members16:32
txwikingerI built it in maverick chroot without anything but the standard packages16:32
txwikingerand in pbuilder16:32
debfxstill debian-qt-kde.mk shouldn't automatically include quilt as dpkg-source handles the patching for source format 3.0 packages16:32
txwikingerRiddell: do you get the same error in your chroot build?16:33
Riddellrgreening: you create the project then you can push to a bzr branch for that project (such as lp:~kubuntu-members/kdevplatform/ubuntu)16:33
rgreeningoh16:33
rgreeningok16:33
rgreeningI have a 2hr meeting now.. Ill try it after that16:34
txwikingergood luck with your meeting :)16:34
rgreeningRiddell: what boost do we use for Lucid. kdevplatform for maverick and the backport is set for this: libboost-serialization1.42-dev and the backport fails. Can I just downgrade?16:35
Riddellrgreening: yes downgrade to 1.4016:36
rgreeningk. uploading then meeting..16:38
ScottKrgreening: Upload during the meeting.16:44
shadeslayertxwikinger: cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkggzgames.so.4.5.0': No such file or directory16:45
shadeslayerwhee...16:45
rgreeningScottK: already uploaded16:45
shadeslayertxwikinger: up for packaging kdegames for lucid?16:45
txwikingershadeslayer: ok16:45
rgreeningmeeting is in another rm no access for me from there...16:45
RiddellScottK: am I right in assuming there's no release meeting today?16:45
rgreeningok, really gone now...16:45
shadeslayertxwikinger: have fun :)16:45
rgreeningbbi2hr16:46
Riddellshadeslayer: arg!16:46
Riddellkajongg/kajongg.desktop has the same issue as the .desktop files in svn16:47
Riddellit already contains X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain16:47
Riddellwhy would someone commit to svn with with?16:47
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^ no idea what youre saying :P16:47
Riddellshadeslayer: kajongg/kajongg.desktop contains a line with X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain.  that gets added and removed when we build out packages.  but upstream already added it so it's breaking the package build16:48
Riddellit means the debian-changes-4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa116:49
shadeslayerah....16:49
Riddellit means the debian-changes-4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1 patch gets made but then can't apply16:49
Riddellshadeslayer: so you'll need to remake the .orig.tar.bz2 with that removed16:49
RiddellI've removed it from svn16:50
ScottKRiddell: AFAIK, no.16:50
shadeslayerRiddell: so repack the orignal tarball after removing the .desktop file16:51
shadeslayerright?16:51
Riddellshadeslayer: after removing just that line from the .desktop file16:51
shadeslayerok16:51
ScottKRiddell: If we're going to repack the tarball anyway, that kind of defeats the purpose of using format v3 and tar.bz2.16:52
ScottKCan't it just be patched?16:53
RiddellScottK: no, it's the patching system which is breaking (not unreasonably so)16:53
ScottKNice.16:53
ScottKSo it's a bug we can fix by repacking now and get upstream to fix before the final release then?16:54
RiddellI've already fixed it upstream16:54
Riddellkde revision 113166716:55
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1131667&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1131667 | remove unnecessary X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain16:55
ScottKAh.  Great.  Nevermind my whining then.16:55
shadeslayerRiddell: kdegames_4.4.80+repack.orig.tar.bz2 right?16:56
shadeslayerthe repacked tarball16:57
Riddellshadeslayer: I'd just call it kdegames_4.4.80.orig.tar.bz216:58
RiddellI've deleted the old one from the PPA, although it might take an hour to clear16:58
shadeslayeroh ok16:58
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shtylman_koffice 2.2 is out17:07
shadeslayerwhee... more work ;)17:08
Riddellit's packaged17:10
Riddelljust waiting on amd64 backport to announce17:11
shadeslayerah17:12
shadeslayerwell lucid kdegames is building again17:13
shadeslayeranyone have a idea how to boot a meego image from grub2?17:18
shadeslayer:P17:19
txwikingerhow can I make pbuilder use the ninja ppa?17:20
shadeslayertxwikinger: add the ninja ppa to the pbuilderrc17:20
shadeslayertxwikinger: or,make a default pbuider chroot and add the ppa later through chroot login17:21
txwikingeryeah.. but apt can't use https as transport without the special package being loaded17:21
shadeslayertxwikinger: yeah thats the apt-https-transport package17:22
txwikingeryes17:22
shadeslayertxwikinger: so best way is to make a default pbuilder and then install that package and then add the ppa17:22
shadeslayertxwikinger: btw i think the lucid kdegames package is done ;)17:26
txwikingerok17:26
shadeslayeryep.. done17:29
shadeslayerwow...loads of lintian errors :P17:31
shadeslayertxwikinger: http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/ha4hfwUU17:31
txwikingerfix them :)17:33
shadeslayertxwikinger: which ones are important? and which ones can i leave17:34
txwikingerYou need to look at each of them individually17:34
txwikingerwell. some of them are all the same thing17:35
txwikingeri.e. the rpath stuff17:35
txwikingerI think there is a fix for it17:35
shadeslayertxwikinger: care to share? :P17:36
txwikingerI think I saw something in kdevplatform pacakge17:37
txwikingerlook at the current to debian diff I submitted17:37
Quintasanrgreening: yeah17:37
QuintasanI'm still stuck at symbols17:38
shadeslayertxwikinger: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+files/kdevplatform_1.0.0-0ubuntu2_1.0.0-1ubuntu3~ppa1.diff.gz << last 3 lines?17:39
QuintasanRiddell: I got the microblogging patch17:39
shadeslayerso i add DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=ON to rules17:39
Quintasanin fact I've done it yesterday but I wanted to testbuild17:40
txwikingershadeslayer: yes the lines with +17:40
txwikingerNot sure if that will fix lintian.. I have not read the bug17:40
shadeslayerok17:42
shadeslayerlast try for lucid build17:42
RiddellQuintasan: cor17:43
RiddellQuintasan: how about kdebase?17:43
QuintasanRiddell: http://wklej.org/id/341481/17:44
RiddellQuintasan: can't say I'm too fussed about some symbols17:44
QuintasanI'm quite not sure what to do with this17:45
RiddellQuintasan: ignore it17:45
QuintasanRiddell: how? it makes ftbfs, should I remove the .symbols file?17:47
Riddellhmm fooey17:48
Riddellyeah remove it if that fixes it17:50
jtechidnaQuintasan: save that diff to a file, then do a pkgkde-symbols helper patch filename -p libkonq517:51
jtechidnaer17:51
jtechidnapkgkde-symbolshelper patch filename -p libkonq517:51
Riddellright, that's the answer I ment to give :)17:52
jtechidnaI should write something to a mailing list about symbols stuff sometime, I think17:52
jtechidna"symbols and you; a guide to a happier dh_shlibdeps"17:53
Riddelltxwikinger: kdevelop also succeeds in building on a fresh chroot here :(17:54
txwikingerfresh chroot == without the new qt and kde packages?17:54
Riddellwith them17:54
shadeslayertxwikinger: same thing : E: kgoldrunner: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/games/kgoldrunner /usr/lib17:55
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^ got a fix for it ?17:55
Riddellshadeslayer: I wouldn't worry about rpaths, I think they're no bad thing17:55
shadeslayerok..17:55
QuintasanDo you want to assign one version to all new symbols (ENTER if no)?17:56
QuintasanWhat version? [ u = 4:4.4.80 / d = 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1~ / v = 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1 / enter other ]: 17:56
Quintasan?17:56
txwikingerRiddell: it looks like the package is ok.. something in the building process fails17:56
jtechidnaQuintasan: 4:4.4.80, unless a patch of ours is responsible for the new symbols17:56
txwikingercould it be that it does not load the right packages?17:56
txwikingerwhen I do an apt-get upgrade in my chroot all those new packages are held back17:57
Riddelltxwikinger: it's just not compiling that .ui file in the right order17:57
Riddellthey might be held back if you have something needing the old libs, like kdevelop17:57
shadeslayerRiddell: http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/SmpYi5Di17:57
txwikingerright17:57
shadeslayerRiddell: ive fixed W: kdegames-dbg: possible-new-upstream-release-without-new-version17:58
Riddellshadeslayer: groovy17:58
shadeslayerawesome :)17:58
Quintasanjtechidna: usr/lib/libkbookmarkmodel_private.so.4 goes to libkonq5?17:58
jtechidnaIt should probably go with wherever the bookmark editor lives17:59
shadeslayerRiddell: well i guess kdegames is done for lucid as well17:59
shadeslayerwill upload in a hour18:00
jtechidnathough if it's a private library upstream should really be putting it in /usr/lib/kde4/....18:00
Quintasan./debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkbookmarkmodel_private.so18:00
jtechidnaQuintasan: kdebase-bin18:00
Quintasanbeats me why it is there18:00
jtechidnawell, that's upstream's fault18:00
jtechidnanot too big of a deal though18:00
jtechidnajust not entirely kosher18:01
shadeslayerRiddell: and the duplicate desktop entries should go away with the new source18:01
txwikingerRiddell: why would the ppa building process do something different than chroot build or pbuilder build?18:01
shadeslayerRiddell: do i have to mention in the changelog that a new source is being uploaded?18:01
Riddellshadeslayer: yes, bump the ~ppaX number too18:02
Riddellshadeslayer: it may not get accepted yet, depends if the old .orig has been cleared18:02
Riddelltxwikinger: it shouldn't!18:02
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah ill upload it in another hour18:03
shadeslayershould be gone till then :P18:03
* txwikinger thought so too18:03
* Riddell out too18:04
txwikingerthis package held back is stupid18:04
txwikingerI got all the packages loaded by targeted installs instead18:04
txwikingerRiddell: could it be that there is a diskspace problem on the ppa build?18:07
shadeslayerwow... only 2GB of free space on home18:13
shadeslayerneed to clear all these debs... :P18:13
debfxjtechidna: what should I do when there are missing symbols?18:19
jtechidnadebfx: This means that upstream has removed the methods corresponding to those symbols. Hopefully, no public symbols will have been removed, because otherwise it'd be breaking ABI18:21
jtechidnaThey can be cleaned up manually18:21
shadeslayerdebfx: in my debian/patches folder i have debian-changes-4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1 patch,can i remove that?18:22
shadeslayerits causing a FTBFS18:22
debfxjtechidna:  the remove and hope for the best strategy? :D18:22
lex79debfx: thanks for pkg-kde-tools ;)18:22
jtechidnadebfx: yes :D18:22
debfxshadeslayer: when you build a source 3.0 package, dpkg puts your changes to the upstream tarball in a debian/patches/<version> file18:23
shadeslayerok,while building the package18:23
debfxif you don't want the changes, remove the file18:23
debfxyou might have to call quilt pop -a afterwards, but not sure about that18:24
shadeslayerhmmm..18:24
shadeslayereww.. lp still hasnt removed the original tarball18:25
debfxotherwise dpkg might re-add the patch18:25
ScottKIIRC, you'll need to edit debian/patches/series too.18:26
shadeslayerdebfx: well i ran debuild -S -sa without debian/patch folder and voila no debian/patch folder after completion18:27
shadeslayerScottK: i removed the entire patch folder18:27
ScottKOK.  That would cover it.18:28
shadeslayershould i wait for lp to remove the tarball or should i just re upload a new tarball18:28
shadeslayerhttps://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdegames/18:29
debfxis qtwebkit supposed to expose the webkit api?18:31
debfxit didn't in 4.618:32
debfxI don't think qtwebkit is meant to be built stand-alone18:54
rgreeningQuintasan: kdebase???18:57
rgreening:)18:57
Quintasanrgreening: working on it, will upload soon18:58
rgreeningQuintasan: ty :)18:59
rgreeninglex79, Riddell: kdesdk package?19:00
lex79in bzr I think19:01
rgreeninglex79: can we get it in ninjas-ppa?19:12
rgreeningand working :)19:12
rgreeningso I can backport it for my lucid install :)19:12
rgreeninghah19:12
lex79I can do19:13
txwikingerRiddell: I compared the build logs for kdevelop... almost looks like a race problem to me19:14
Quintasanlex79: any idea where those files should go? -> http://wklej.org/id/341536/19:14
jtechidnaQuintasan: I know that the libkdeinit4 ones are false-positives19:15
jtechidnaQuintasan: the sidebar stuff should go in libkonqsidebarplugin4a19:16
jtechidnaQuintasan: useragent stuff in kdebase-data19:17
lex79rgreening: I uploaded kdesdk, also for lucid ;(19:19
rgreeningQuintasan: kfind.install for the kfind.desktop (though it may be false positive)19:19
lex79ehm, I mean this -> ;)19:19
lex79:D19:19
rgreeninglex79: haha19:20
rgreeningkool19:20
lex79kdeutils ~ppa1 is in archive LoL19:21
shadeslayercheckout jono bacon at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon 19:21
shadeslayer:P19:21
rgreeninglex79: kdesdk for maverick?19:21
rgreeningor you did both19:22
lex79rgreening: I uploaded kdesdk for maverick and lucid in ninja19:23
QuintasanRiddell: http://wklej.org/id/341541/ <-- microblogging patch19:25
rgreeninglex79: only lucid shows up in PPA19:34
apacheloggerfregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/PM2rdYkE.html <==== look what I just saw!!! must have!19:35
lex79rgreening: weird19:35
lex79I'm going to reupload19:35
apacheloggerOo19:36
apacheloggershadeslayer: scary19:36
apacheloggervery very scary19:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: :P19:36
* apachelogger should do that too19:37
shadeslayerhahaha.19:37
lex79rgreening: kdesdk reuploaded19:37
apacheloggerman that is pointless19:38
apacheloggerOo19:38
freglapachelogger: is that a bunny on a bike? :)19:39
shadeslayeromg http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/webkit-trademark/ 19:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: stream upcoming19:47
apacheloggerfregl: I suppose so19:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: EH?19:48
shadeslayersorry for the caps :P19:48
apacheloggerSURE19:48
shadeslayer:P19:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: the stream? which video?19:50
shadeslayerRiddell: tarball hasnt been removed till now :(19:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/magic-rabbit19:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: im rohangarg :P19:58
* txwikinger found the problem with kdevelop20:03
Quintasanrgreening: uploading kdebase to ninja ppa20:04
lex79rgreening: The source kdesdk - 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa2 is already accepted in ubuntu/maverick and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload.20:04
lex79rgreening: maybe Riddell uploaded it and then deleted20:04
lex79I think we have to wait20:04
shadeslayerlex79: how long before a package gets deleted?20:04
shadeslayerincluding source and all20:05
rgreeninglex79: did you debuild -S -sa or debuild -S -sd? sd is correct20:05
lex79shadeslayer: I don't know exactly20:05
shadeslayersd? what does sd do?20:05
lex79rgreening: ok I try20:05
apacheloggerkubotu: np20:05
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Piranha" by The Prodigy [Invaders Must Die, 2009] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more20:05
rgreening-sd assumes the source is already uploaded20:05
* apachelogger takes Nightrose for a dance20:05
shadeslayerRiddell: ah ok :)20:05
rgreening-sa means upload the source tar file20:05
* Nightrose dances through the channel with apachelogger20:06
shadeslayerrgreening: knew that :P20:06
rgreeninglex79: kdesdk ftbfs also for lucid20:06
rgreeningQuintasan: ty20:06
* apachelogger and Nightrose stumble over Riddell who happened to have fallen asleep in some deserted part of the channel20:07
Quintasanpush'd to bzr20:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: hahaha20:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw what do you think your OS will be based upon?20:07
shadeslayerlike apt? or yum? or something else?20:08
lex79rgreening: that's it Riddell fault, I don't know what he did, I just uploaded the package from bzr :)20:08
rgreeninglex79: care ot debug20:08
rgreeninglex79: care to debug :)20:08
apacheloggershadeslayer: new invention that actually make sense20:09
apacheloggerso20:09
apacheloggerI came to wonder20:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: hmm.. i actually like the pardus approach :P20:10
apacheloggerNightrose: when do I get a wikipedia page?20:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: they have an approach?20:10
* apachelogger notes that pardus was never really hyped by KDE :(20:10
lex79the new way to apply patch is annoying sometimes20:10
Quintasanapachelogger and sense used together in one sentence - usually makes no sense20:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah :P20:10
* apachelogger has a condition!20:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: only download diff's of new packages,thereby reducing download size20:10
apacheloggercondition > approach20:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: that is stupid20:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: why?20:11
apacheloggerbecause they require computation power20:11
apacheloggerwhich was invented by suse anyway20:11
apacheloggerwell20:11
apacheloggers/inventend/established20:11
shadeslayerRiddell: #launchpad says that i cant upload new tarball with same name :P20:12
Quintasanstill better than downloading over 9000 mb of packages because of a small change20:12
Quintasanapachelogger: ^20:12
apacheloggerwhat you need is a mixture of binary diffs + file-only downloads + stream compression20:12
shadeslayeryep :P20:12
apacheloggerQuintasan: no it is not20:12
lex79rgreening: kdesdk accepted, but I think will be ftbs like for lucid20:12
Quintasanapachelogger: say that to ppl with crappy connection (like mine)20:12
apacheloggerQuintasan: say that to ppl with crappy pcs (like Nightrose)20:13
apacheloggerthere is no one solution20:13
Quintasandamn you rosetta20:13
Quintasanspamming my inbox once again20:13
apacheloggeryou need to either waste bandwith or cpu time20:13
Quintasanwhy not waste both if we are at it?20:13
Quintasan:P20:13
Nightroseapachelogger: hehe no idea - what would be on your wiki page?20:13
apacheloggerand what it shall be is entirely depending on the indvidual specs20:14
apacheloggerNightrose: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jono_Bacon20:15
apacheloggersomething like that20:15
apacheloggerseems generic enough20:15
Nightrose;-)20:15
apacheloggeranyhow, on a more important topic20:15
apacheloggerI need a minion to improve KDE performance20:16
QuintasanSound Board == another crappy layer to put on top of PA?20:16
Quintasanapachelogger: don't even look at me20:16
* Quintasan points at Trouble20:16
apacheloggersound board?20:16
apacheloggerwhat would that be?20:16
Quintasanblagh20:16
QuintasanSound Menu20:16
Quintasan:P20:16
apacheloggersounds like something to eat20:16
apacheloggerQuintasan: it is not particularly about pa really20:17
shadeslayerRiddell: im uploading with +repack20:17
apacheloggeryoud just remove indivdual UI represnentations of sound stuff and merge it into one20:17
* lex79 out for a bit20:18
Quintasana wikipage about apachelogger? it's not like it's going to get tons of pageviews, is it? ;p20:20
apacheloggerbrrrr20:20
apacheloggerbug 554514 is made out of ewww20:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 554514 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "cant find resource agents" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55451420:20
apacheloggercompletely sticky inside and outside20:20
apacheloggernot very fluffy20:20
apacheloggerhorrible20:20
apacheloggerand everyone reads the comments so carefully, incredibly20:21
rgreeningQuintasan: are you backporting kdebase to lucid or will I go ahead and do it?20:30
Quintasanrgreening: please do so if you can20:31
rgreeningkk20:31
shadeslayer!info hello-debhelper maverick20:37
ubottuhello-debhelper (source: hello-debhelper): The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is extra. Version 2.5-1 (maverick), package size 33 kB, installed size 648 kB20:37
sheldonhi, when will be available kde 4.4.80 packages in ppa for lucid?21:13
shadeslayerwhat do i name the new archive of kdegames?21:16
shadeslayerso any ideas??21:20
shadeslayersuggestions?21:20
shadeslayeri did kdegames_4.4.80+repack.orig.tar.bz2 buts not being picked up21:22
txwikingerrgreening: Do you have an idea how to best prevent parallel make for our packages?21:24
rgreeningtxwikinger: is that the issue with kdevelop?21:25
txwikingeryes I believe so21:25
shadeslayerrgreening: any idea what version should the repacked archive be?21:25
rgreeningnot sure how to affect that... 21:25
txwikingerWe don't need to have parallel make do we?21:26
rgreeningshadeslayer: name the tar and extracted dir with the same extension. for example kdegames_4.4.80a.orig.tar.bz2 kdegames-4.4.80a21:27
rgreeningtxwikinger: dunno21:27
rgreeningshadeslayer: then debuild on that21:27
shadeslayerok21:27
rgreeningshadeslayer: just ping Riddell to let him know he should rename back to the non 'a' version when he pushes to archive21:28
shadeslayerrgreening: will lucid use the same source?21:28
rgreeningshadeslayer: backported you can debuild -S -sd (yes, same source). Riddell will need to rename as well21:29
shadeslayerRiddell: im renaming the source to kdegames_4.4.80a.orig.tar.bz2 please rename it back when you push to archive :P21:29
rgreeningshadeslayer: try and get him when he's online as well :)21:30
rgreeningjust in case he misses the chat log21:30
shadeslayerrgreening: sure21:30
shadeslayerok now ill ping out.. uploading new tarball21:30
shadeslayerlets see how long i last :P21:30
debfxtxwikinger: inserting "DEB_BUILD_PARALLEL=" after "include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk" should disable parallel building21:32
txwikingerthat is what I would have tried debfx :)21:32
txwikingerrgreening: Can I just push the change kdevelop to the ppa?21:35
rgreeningapachelogger: kubuntu-dev-tools needs updating :)21:35
rgreeningtxwikinger: sure thing my friend21:35
apacheloggertell me about it ^^21:35
txwikingerrgreening: do I need to do something different with dput?21:36
rgreeningapachelogger: it gets remove if I upgrade to newer kde 4.4.8021:36
rgreeningtxwikinger: dput kubuntu-ninjas *.changes21:36
apacheloggerohm21:36
apacheloggerrgreening: probably because of broken ruby?21:36
apacheloggereh21:36
apacheloggerkruby21:36
apacheloggerruby-kde21:37
rgreeningapachelogger: I suspect there is a hard dep on kdebase-runtime-bin-kde421:37
* apachelogger is wondering if it depends on that at all ^^21:37
apacheloggerah21:37
apacheloggerthat could be21:37
rgreeningcan you update it21:37
rgreeningand push to the PPA21:37
rgreeningneeds to conflict replace on << 4:4.4.80 and depend on kdebas-runtime >= 4:4.4.8021:38
rgreeningor whatever21:38
rgreeningapachelogger: ^21:38
rgreeningty21:38
=== schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm
shadeslayerwow.. im still here...21:40
debfxthe vlc phonon backend doesn't support artist/title metadata for streams :(21:41
shadeslayerdebfx: does it output sound? xine and gstreamer dont even work right now :P21:42
JontheEchidnaಥ_ಥ21:43
JontheEchidnaha, that's neat21:43
debfxshadeslayer: yeah, but I suspect that another backend won't fix the issue for you21:44
* ryanakca wonders if the sysadmins are avoiding us21:44
Tm_Tryanakca: rather wonder where they are hiding (:21:44
shadeslayerryanakca: im sure they are :P21:45
shadeslayerelse we would have a shiny new site by now.... :(21:45
shadeslayerkdegames is up and should build :P21:51
shadeslayerif someone doesnt tamper with pkg-kde-tools that is :P21:51
shadeslayerwhee.. new kdebase :D21:52
deepak_ Team , would like to know that what will be the best way to contribute to the team, I am an Debian mantainer and I know debian packaging ...21:55
JontheEchidnadolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit4_dolphin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory21:56
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: maybe not a false positive? :s21:56
Quintasanlooks like it then :S21:56
JontheEchidnaI know that there were some, but I suppose there were some valid new ones21:56
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: anything left for deepak_ ? :P21:56
deepak_shadeslayer: I am sure there will be something, I read the doc but is there any specific list of packages or bugs ?21:57
shadeslayerdeepak_: well theres the need packaging bugs at launchpad21:58
shadeslayerdeepak_: just go to bugs.launchpad.net and click on the needs packaging tag21:58
rgreeningdeepak_: talk to txwikinger 21:59
rgreeningdeepak_: kontact was our hugday today21:59
shadeslayerdeepak_: then theres new merges to be done from debian21:59
shadeslayerdeepak_: see the topic for that :P21:59
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: at the moment I'm getting ready to go to KFC to pick up some food22:00
deepak_shadeslayer:  thanks much. 22:00
JontheEchidnabut it seems that you guys are doing fine with suggestions without me :)22:01
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: :P22:01
* JontheEchidna will return with chicken22:01
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: and a crusher22:01
shadeslayerdeepak_: theres also this https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html 22:02
shadeslayerdeepak_: also contact #ubuntu-motu22:02
deepak_shadeslayer: Thanks a lot22:03
* shadeslayer grumbles about lp not accepting his uploads22:05
rgreeningdebian src format 3.0 is driving me NUTZ!22:07
rgreeningRiddell: kdesdk doesn't build because the debuild makes local changes and it stores a copy of this as a patch. that patch subsequently fails. This is the part that causes the issue:22:10
rgreening# clean up edited .desktop etc files22:10
rgreeningif [ -f /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/createdesktopcontext.pl ]; then \22:10
rgreening          sh /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles LIST; \22:10
rgreening          for file in `cat LIST`; do \22:10
rgreening             sed -i '/X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=/d' ${file}; \22:10
rgreening          done; \22:10
rgreening          rm -f LIST; \22:10
rgreening        fi22:10
shadeslayerrgreening: its just a folder dude :)22:11
* shadeslayer wonders how a folder can drive people nuts22:11
rgreeningif it were only a folder...22:11
rgreeningtell ya what, shadeslayer, feel free to fix kdesdk and let me know how you did it after .. it's only a folder right?22:12
rgreening:)22:12
shadeslayerrgreening: aha! just do rm -rf debian/patches22:12
shadeslayer( worked for me )22:12
shadeslayerrgreening: ok only if you give my Electro magnetic theory exam :P22:13
rgreeningumm... huh? there are patches in that dir required22:13
rgreeningthis is clearly a pkg-kde-tools.mk issue called from debuild22:13
apacheloggerhm22:14
apacheloggeryeah22:14
rgreeningapachelogger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!22:14
apacheloggerthat is not debsrc3 valid 22:14
deepak_rgreening are you using dpkg-source quit 3.0  format?22:14
rgreeningapachelogger: halp me with it please :)22:14
apacheloggerpossibly needs a clean hook22:15
shadeslayerrgreening: oh.. how about just removing the debian changes file ?22:15
shadeslayerfrom debian/patch22:15
JontheEchidnargreening: which .desktop file? I can remove the Ubuntu-gettext-domain entry from svn for the next prerelease22:16
apachelogger oha22:17
apacheloggerkubuntu_override_dh_clean_impl:22:17
apacheloggerah22:17
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: this is in svn?22:17
rgreeningJontheEchidna: Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.22:17
rgreening1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file kapptemplate/templates/C++/konqplugin/konqplugin.kdevtemplate.rej22:17
rgreeningReversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.22:17
rgreening1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file kapptemplate/templates/ruby/rubykonqplugin/rubykonqplugin.kdevtemplate.rej22:17
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: pkgbinarymangler is the only thing that would add that entry, so one must suppose it is in svn22:18
rgreeningRuby and Konq.. both evil entities22:18
apacheloggerOo22:18
apacheloggerthat is mad22:18
apacheloggeranyhow22:18
apacheloggerou dh7 magic does...22:18
apacheloggeradd the ubuntu domain22:18
apacheloggerand then remove it in the clean22:18
JontheEchidnaorly?22:18
apacheloggerso no issue with pkg-kde-tools22:18
JontheEchidnahmm, new one on me22:18
apacheloggersee kubuntu/debhelper/kubuntu.mk22:18
apacheloggerkubuntu_override_dh_clean_impl:22:19
apacheloggercleans22:19
apacheloggerkubuntu_override_dh_installdocs_impl:22:19
apacheloggeradds22:19
rgreeningJontheEchidna: what debhelpver version should I be dep on22:19
JontheEchidnabut then this should only be an issue if you've done a debuild 22:19
JontheEchidnargreening: 7.3.16 or higher22:19
debfxkdesdk uses cdbs22:19
apacheloggerI also think our cdbs magic cleans properly :P22:20
apacheloggerrgreening: can you push your current package somehwhere?22:20
apacheloggerdebfx: kubuntu/kubuntu.mk also cleans properly22:20
rgreeningapachelogger: its in bzr. its actually Riddell/debfx's upload I am trying to fix22:21
apacheloggerah22:21
JontheEchidnakde svn 113163022:21
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1131630&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1131630 | remove needless X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain22:21
* JontheEchidna called it22:21
rgreeningapachelogger: its the one in ninja PPA which is currently FTBFS22:21
JontheEchidnaAs usual, Riddell is 5 hours ahead of us22:21
apachelogger^^22:21
apacheloggerhow did that get upstream to begin with? :P22:21
JontheEchidnathis usually happens when an upstream uses an existing .desktop file as a template for a new one22:22
JontheEchidnaand when this upstream happens to be using Kubuntu...22:22
* apachelogger hates kubuntu22:22
QuintasanJontheEchidna: fixed and uploaded22:22
apacheloggerthough I think suse does that too?22:22
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: oh thats from kdegames i think22:23
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: what's from kdegames?22:23
shadeslayerhe must have realised that it exsisted in some other project as well22:23
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: kajongg.desktop had a X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain entry,thats why i had to remove it and repack source22:24
rgreeningapachelogger: so, will you be able to have a peek and fix kdesdk?22:24
shadeslayerso im guessing he saw the same in the above said project as well22:24
* shadeslayer prays his upload goes through22:24
RiddellI said I have kdesdk ready, I just couldn't upload it because it needed to wait for the old .orig.tar.bz2 to be deleted from the PPA22:24
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: all of our .desktop files have that post-processing22:24
rgreeningRiddell: oh22:25
rgreeningso, you repacked the source?22:25
Riddellor if I didn't say it, I ment to :)22:25
Riddellyes I repacked the source22:25
rgreeningoh... crap22:25
rgreeningso, now you have to go though the wait again.. as it's uploaded22:25
shadeslayerRiddell: had to upload new source with different name22:25
rgreeningand ftbfs22:25
rgreeninglol22:25
shadeslayeroriginal source refused to go away :P22:25
apacheloggerrgreening: thanks for wasting my time :P22:25
* rgreening goes away22:26
shadeslayer( wrt to kdegames )22:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: hehe22:26
Quintasanapachelogger: it's not like you are lacking time to waste :P22:26
shadeslayerwheee22:26
* rgreening rm -rf kdesdk22:26
rgreeningapachelogger: did you get kubuntu-dev-tools figured out for the new deps22:28
apacheloggerrgreening: nope22:28
shadeslayeruh... why are we building kdebase for karmic?22:30
shadeslayerhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/158714522:30
shadeslayeri mean multimedia22:30
shadeslayeruh oh22:32
shadeslayerwhoops... uploaded wrong stuff for lucid22:33
rgreeningshadeslayer broke lp22:33
shadeslayerrgreening: :P22:33
* shadeslayer gets a hammer and starts with lp.net/~rgreening22:34
Riddellblurg, 4.4.4 tars are out, let's ignore them until we get 4.5 beta done22:39
shadeslayeroh noes...22:39
shadeslayeryeah.. no one will download 4.4  if we get 4.5 out first :P22:40
shadeslayerRiddell: in ktown?22:40
shadeslayerbah...22:41
debfxoh I need to adjust my mail filters again, I get spammed with all the ftbfs mails from your uploads :p22:43
shadeslayerhehe22:43
shadeslayersame thing here :P22:43
* shadeslayer already has a awesome filter22:43
debfxfortunately launchpad provides a X-Creator-Recipient header22:45
debfxwhich contains the mail address of the uploader22:45
* apachelogger needs a new laptop :(22:46
shadeslayerdebfx: heh.. i just created a filter for all mails which have the words list:(<launchpad-users.lists.launchpad.net>)22:47
shadeslayers/have/had22:48
apacheloggerkubotu: karma apachelogger22:54
kubotukarma for apachelogger: 1622:54
shadeslayerkubotu: karma shadeslayer 22:58
kubotushadeslayer has neutral karma22:58
shadeslayer:(22:58
Tm_Tkubotu: karma Tm_T22:58
kubotukarma for Tm_T: -122:58
Tm_Tonly one?!22:58
shadeslayerTm_T: -122:58
shadeslayernot one... :P22:58
Tm_Tthanks22:58
shadeslayerTm_T: i dont thing its lp karma :P22:58
shadeslayer*think22:58
Tm_Tshadeslayer: I know it isn't22:59
shadeslayerwell kdegames builds on maverick in ppa... only problem is that i didnt realise that there was no kdegames 4.4.80a-0ubuntu1~ppa1 and ppa2,uploaded ppa3 directly :P23:00
shadeslayerkubotu: help karma23:00
kubotukarma module: Listens to everyone's chat. <thing>++/<thing>-- => increase/decrease karma for <thing>, karma for <thing>? => show karma for <thing>, karmastats => show stats. Karma is a community rating system - only in-channel messages can affect karma and you cannot adjust your own.23:00
apacheloggerTm_T==23:00
apacheloggerthat was oodd23:00
apacheloggersee, my keyboard is doing weird things23:00
* apachelogger hits it a bit23:01
apacheloggerTm_T--23:01
apacheloggerthere we go23:01
Tm_Tapachelogger: no, it's just you23:01
apacheloggeroh23:01
apachelogger:(23:01
apachelogger:'(23:01
apacheloggeryou are so horrible23:01
shadeslayerthat was dramatic :P23:01
Tm_T...and we didn't hear from him since23:01
shadeslayerhahah23:01
shadeslayerapachelogger++ :P23:01
shadeslayerkarma apachelogger23:02
shadeslayerkubotu: karma apachelogger23:02
kubotukarma for apachelogger: 1723:02
shadeslayerapachelogger-- xD23:02
shadeslayeranyways im off too23:02
shadeslayerTm_T: bye :)23:03
Quintasanhmm23:05
Quintasando we have final 4.0.0 ktorrent package in maverick?23:06
Quintasan!info ktorrent23:07
ubottuktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client based on the KDE platform. In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.4+dfsg.1-1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 1254 kB, installed size 4956 kB23:07
Quintasan!info ktorrent maverick23:07
ubottuktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client based on the KDE platform. In component main, is optional. Version 3.3.4+dfsg.1-1ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 1254 kB, installed size 4956 kB23:07
Quintasan:/23:07
Quintasantime to fix it23:07
shadeslayeroh i give up on kdegames lucid... 23:12
shadeslayerRiddell: please get someone to work on the kdegames lucid build,im not going be available for the next week :)23:13
shadeslayerthe install files need to be tweaked probably..23:13
QuintasanFFFFFFFUUUUU-23:20
Quintasanhow the hell I'm supposed to sync gluon when lp is being sloooooow23:20
ScottKWhen is it not?23:25

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