[00:02] <fregl> ahh, pics :)
[00:03] <fregl> apachelogger: why are we kind of grinning on the ones we are on?
[00:03] <apachelogger> fregl: would you prefer grumpy faces?
[00:06] <fregl> good pics these are 
[00:06] <apachelogger> *nod*
[00:18] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[00:18] <kubotu> apachelogger is listening to "Daft Punk is Playing at my House (Soulwax Shibuya Re-Remix)" by LCD Soundsystem [Most Of The Remixes...] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[00:30] <apachelogger> hm
[00:31] <apachelogger> http://pastebin.ca/1873170
[00:31] <apachelogger> madness
[00:54] <lex79> apachelogger: who can raise the build score of that? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/1.1.17-1ubuntu4/+build/1760773
[01:38] <apachelogger> hm
[01:38] <apachelogger> lex79: NCommander for example
[01:39] <lex79> thx
[01:39] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I think it would be much better if knh had a init() slot and you singleshot 0 to this, intead of building everything in the constructor 
[01:40] <apachelogger> IIRC qtimer will only shoot once resources are available
[01:40] <apachelogger> hence making the loading of the module less blocking
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> hrm, semi-lazy initialization, interesting
[01:45] <JontheEchidna> Ugh, libqt4-assistant still has rdepends
[03:56] <nixternal> man, I need to clean up my computer area. shit keeps falling off of shelves and landing perfectly on the power strip, shutting my server off...twice in a week this has happened
[03:56] <nixternal> i was at portillos trying to ssh into my machine with no luck...hate when that happens
[05:58] <jussi> nixternal: LOL
[06:51] <NCommander> Riddell: so the problem with Qt4 is that lzma compression takes really really long :-/
[06:52] <NCommander> Riddell: changing the compress to something less CPU intensive will likely solve the build timeout issue
[07:15] <ScottK> NCommander: Once we have xz support, will that help?
[07:32] <NCommander> ScottK: TBH, I'm not sure how much number crunching xz does
[07:32] <Nightrose> apachelogger: lol you don't look old on that pic
[07:32] <NCommander> But crunching the dbg debs down thats a TON of CPU time and RAM
[07:32] <NCommander> Its been going for about 4 hours now
[07:33] <ScottK> NCommander: We don't have space issues on armel.  I think a patch that dropped lzma on just armel would be fine.  Could you do such a change?
[07:36] <NCommander> ScottK: if we're shipping the dbg debs on the CD, I think we have bigger issues ;-)
[07:37] <NCommander> ScottK: let me talk to lamont, he may just want to raise the timeout instead of eating more disk space
[07:45] <sabdfl1> apachelogger: i know someone who would :-)
[08:52] <NCommander> lex79: sorry, didn't see you in the backscroll for the rescore request, but the build has already finished
[10:23] <\sh> moins
[10:24] <\sh> do we already have kde 4.5 for lucid somewhere available? 
[10:25] <Riddell> not yet
[10:42] <Riddell> Quintasan: ping
[10:43] <Riddell> what's the status of kdebase?  it's making kde-standard uninstallable
[10:48] <ScottK> NCommander: No, I was thinking skipping lzma for all of qt4-x11 on armel.
[11:06] <NCommander> ScottK: oh. I thought we had actually done that on a previous release
[11:06] <NCommander> (or maybe a different package)
[11:08] <Riddell> we may have done, I don't recall
[11:13] <ryanakca> hmmm. Was 10.04 KNE or KNR?
[11:13] <ryanakca> Also, any news on Ofir's theme?
[11:13] <Riddell> KNR
[11:14] <Riddell> no, it's been assigned to squinky but not heard anything else yet, am getting grumpy
[11:14] <Riddell> feel free to poke him
[11:14] <ryanakca> squinky@canonical.com ?
[11:16] <ryanakca> ScottK: Done, http://www.kubuntu.org/reviews
[11:17] <Riddell> ryanakca: squinky on freenode
[11:18] <ryanakca> Riddell: OK, will poke him
[11:26]  * ScottK imagines ryanakca searching through the jungles of freenode with a spear.
[11:26] <ScottK> Thanks ryanakca.
[11:53] <Riddell> lex79: what's the status of kdesdk?
[11:56] <shadeslayer> ok quick question,i have loads of missing files,ive adjusted some of them in the .install files in debian/ but i cant adjust this one usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kajongg/index.docbook
[11:56] <Riddell> can't adjust?
[11:56] <shadeslayer> with reference to kdegames
[11:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: like which install file does that go to
[11:57] <Riddell> kmahjongg.install
[11:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i thought so too,but why is it named kajongg then? :P
[11:57] <Riddell> hum, missing an m
[11:57] <shadeslayer> yep..
[11:58] <shadeslayer> so either its a upstream problem.. or we need a new .install file for it :P
[11:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok and what about  usr/lib/liblibkcardgame.so
[11:59] <shadeslayer> should i put it in kdegames-card-data.install ?
[11:59] <shadeslayer> All the .install files are here : http://pastebin.com/rMCFU0Sz
[12:02] <Riddell> seems like kajongg is a new game
[12:02] <shadeslayer> ah.. so new .install file :)
[12:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: then why do i get only documentation files as missing,wheres the rest of the game :P
[12:03] <Riddell> so add an entry in debian/control and a new .install file
[12:03] <Riddell> use this for description http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kajongg?content=103206
[12:03] <shadeslayer> ok
[12:04] <Tm_T> yes kajongg is new game, went thru review this spring
[12:06] <Riddell> "liblibkcardgame.so" liblib? that doesn't seem right
[12:07] <shadeslayer> yep.. thats what i thought
[12:07] <Riddell> find . -name CMakeLists.txt  | xargs grep kcardgam
[12:07] <Riddell> that tells me it's from kpat
[12:07] <Riddell> so put it into kpat.install
[12:07] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: btw why doesnt dh_install --list-missing show any binaries for kajongg
[12:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: okies.. no worries about liblib?
[12:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: upstream problem, they should fix the same and decide if it's versioned or not (if not should be in /usr/lib/kde4/)
[12:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so when it's all packaged please e-mail the kdegames list and tell them of the issue
[12:09] <Riddell> s/fix the same/fix the name/
[12:11] <Riddell> IF(PYQT4_FOUND AND PYKDE4_FOUND AND SQLITE_FOUND) SET(INSTALL_KAJONGG TRUE)
[12:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so kajongg needs python-kde4 and sqlite build-deps, it doesn't give any warning if you don't have those (I'll fix that in svn)
[12:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ill add those to the control file
[12:12] <Riddell> then rebuild and see what files kajongg adds
[12:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: any particular version?
[12:13] <shadeslayer> for the 2 deps..
[12:14] <shadeslayer> !info sqlite maverick
[12:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: actually just do  DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DINSTALL_KAJONGG
[12:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: actually just do  DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DINSTALL_KAJONGG:BOOL=TRUE
[12:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hehe.. ok ill add that to rules
[12:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: then in debian/control on the kajongg package add a manual Depends: python-kde4, python-twisted, libqt4-sql-sqlite
[12:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok
[12:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: should i also add ${shlibs:Depends} ?
[12:23] <Riddell> may as well yes
[12:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw ive put usr/lib/libpala/libpala-config.cmake in palapeli.install
[12:26] <shadeslayer> i hope thats right
[12:27] <Riddell> should be fine there
[12:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kajongg will install a  load of .py files which we want and a load of .pyc files which we don't, you can ignore the .pyc files
[12:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kajongg also needs a Depends on python-qt4-sql
[12:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how do i remove the .pyc file?
[12:30] <shadeslayer> *files
[12:31] <shadeslayer> just leave them alone? :P
[12:32] <Riddell> yes
[12:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: looks like kajongg also needs a depends on kdegames-mahjongg-data
[12:37] <Riddell> runs now but can't start a game, guess it has some work to do
[12:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4 should be in libkdegames5.install or libkdegames5-dev.install ?
[12:38] <shadeslayer> same thing for usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4.5.0
[12:38] <Riddell> in kolf.install
[12:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i tried that,i got a error saying that it could find usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4
[12:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw did you see this :   pkg-kde-tools: Depends: libdpkg-perl (>= 1.15.5~) but it is not installable
[12:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: got a few warnings http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/ZsqpAWiw
[12:48] <Riddell> warnings can be ignored, just a result of upstreams library issue
[12:48] <shadeslayer> ok.. well i think this build will go to completion
[12:49] <shadeslayer> yep
[12:49] <Riddell> yay
[12:49] <shadeslayer> in the end i got loads of dpkg-genchanges: warning: duplicate files list entry for file kdegames-card-data_4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb (line 26)
[12:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh noes W: kajongg: empty-binary-package
[12:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you add all the .py files to kajongg?
[12:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: which files? i added the doc files
[12:51] <Riddell> if you built with -DINSTALL_KAJONGG:BOOL=TRUE it should install the kajongg files too
[12:51] <Riddell> (it'll need a full rebuild)
[12:53] <shadeslayer> ah thats why
[12:53] <shadeslayer> i didnt do a full rebuild
[12:54] <shadeslayer> doing a full build.. will take about 20 mins
[12:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that pkg-kde-tools is in lucid or maverick?
[12:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: lucid
[12:57] <Riddell> that'll be lex79 trying to get kdebindings working
[12:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ah.. ok,lots of FTBFS due to that ;)
[12:58] <Riddell> fooey
[12:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hehe.. had to wait for kdeartwork to build after 15 hours or so and voila,FTBFS :P
[13:00] <shadeslayer> ill be back in a few mins ;)
[13:10] <Riddell> groovy, upgrade succeded without overwrite errors
[13:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: lucid?
[13:13] <shadeslayer> kdegames is 72 pc build btw
[13:14] <txwikinger> Riddell: Did you catch my comment yesterday, that I merged kdevelop and kdevplatform?
[13:15] <Riddell> txwikinger: yes just looking at it now
[13:15] <txwikinger> Riddell: cool
[13:15] <Riddell> txwikinger: those l10n packages are crazy but ho hum, we'll follow debian
[13:15] <txwikinger> yeah.. they are
[13:15] <txwikinger> I tried to get it as close as possible to debian
[13:15] <Riddell> txwikinger: I'll bump the build-dep to 4.4.80 to it gets the new beta libraries and upload to ninjas PPA
[13:16] <txwikinger> ok
[13:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw what do i put in the changelog of kdegames,there were a insane amount of edhits
[13:16] <rgreening> mornin
[13:16] <shadeslayer> *edits
[13:16] <shadeslayer> rgreening: hey :)
[13:16] <rgreening> o/ shadeslayer
[13:17] <txwikinger> hey rgreening
[13:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: just summaries the main changes.  the new packages and edits to debian/rules.
[13:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok.
[13:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh you can close that MIR bug for openal now that we know gluon isn't needed
[13:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it was assigned to someone
[13:18] <shadeslayer> bug 586324
[13:18]  * txwikinger wonders what to do today
[13:19] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: can you package kdegames for lucid?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> im short of time....
[13:19] <txwikinger> I can have a look
[13:19] <txwikinger> what needs to be done? merge?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: well most if the work has been done,ill be uploading maverick package in a few mins
[13:20] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: 4.4.80 release
[13:20] <txwikinger> ah
[13:20] <Riddell> txwikinger: it's a backport from maverick he's after
[13:20] <shadeslayer> just a backport :)
[13:20] <txwikinger> Ah
[13:20] <txwikinger> ok.. I have a look
[13:20] <txwikinger> tell me when and where I get the stuff from maverick
[13:20] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: ninja ppa will provide you the maverick package
[13:21] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: i havent uploaded yet
[13:21] <txwikinger> ok
[13:21] <shadeslayer> its still building locally here...
[13:22]  * txwikinger is burning up... It is morning and already as hot as in Texas
[13:23] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: its 45oC here
[13:23] <txwikinger> well.. not in the morning I hope
[13:24] <rgreening> ha. It's like 4 degrees here... brrrr
[13:25] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: its evening :P
[13:25] <shadeslayer> i have this huge cooler right next to the laptop and my face :P
[13:25] <txwikinger> Do you have a watertight laptop for the pool?
[13:26] <shadeslayer> one of these http://www.asia.ru/images/img/alibaba/photo/50195554/Movable_Air_Cooler.jpg
[13:26] <shadeslayer> hehe... 
[13:26] <txwikinger> Don't get my wife any ideas
[13:27] <txwikinger> I bet you can't pay the energy costs for it
[13:27] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: well.. its quite efficient
[13:27] <shadeslayer> it consumes 1/4 the total electricity of a Air Conditioner
[13:27] <txwikinger> A/c's are destroying the fabric of society :p
[13:28] <txwikinger> Before A/C's people would spend time outside and talk with each other.. now they all bunker in inside and watch TV
[13:28] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: true..
[13:28] <shadeslayer> same thing goes for the internet
[13:29] <txwikinger> well.. there are Internet cafes
[13:30] <txwikinger> and to be fair.. there are also sport bars
[13:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw i dont put the .pyc files in kajongg.install right?
[13:31] <apachelogger> sabdfl: oh, who would? ^^
[13:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: correct
[13:32] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I look like 25 on that picture :P
[13:33] <sabdfl> my girlfriend!
[13:33] <rgreening> Riddell, lex79: issues for lucid backport... pkg-kde-tools: Depends: libdpkg-perl (>= 1.15.5~) but it is not installable
[13:33] <rgreening> The package is not installable and breaks lucid builds
[13:34] <Riddell> rgreening: lex79's doing, I think just delete it for now
[13:35] <rgreening> Riddell: do you remember why we needed to backport pkg-kde-tools to lucid?
[13:35] <rgreening> was it kdebindings?
[13:35] <Riddell> rgreening: yes
[13:35] <Riddell> but it's not working like that so just delete it until lex79 comes back for another look
[13:35] <rgreening> ok. Ill delete.
[13:36] <Riddell> or we could just not backport kdebindings
[13:36] <rgreening> lex79: when you get back, we need to rethink pkg-kde-tools.. breaks everything else in lucid
[13:36] <debfx> I can backport pkg-kde-tools if lex79 hasn't started doing it
[13:36] <rgreening> true.. but prefer to have it if we can
[13:36] <debfx> basically some changes from ubuntu2 need to be reverted
[13:36] <rgreening> debfx: it was backported... but breaks things.
[13:37] <rgreening> debfx: if you can fix..
[13:37] <rgreening> it would be appreciated
[13:38] <rgreening> Im going to delete it from the PPA for now. debfx do you need to grab a copy first?
[13:38] <rgreening> 5... 4... 3...
[13:38] <debfx> rgreening: were there any changes?
[13:38] <rgreening> 2... 1...
[13:38] <rgreening> :)
[13:38] <rgreening> dunno
[13:39] <rgreening> lex79 did it
[13:39] <debfx> compared to the maverick version
[13:39] <rgreening> possibly
[13:39] <rgreening> grab it quickly then...
[13:39] <rgreening> run run
[13:39] <rgreening> :)
[13:39] <debfx> where is it? I don't think I have access to it ^^
[13:42] <rgreening> debfx: ninja ppa... you not a NINJA yet?
[13:42] <rgreening> we need to fix that :)
[13:42] <debfx> rgreening: nope
[13:43] <Riddell> debfx: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa
[13:43] <Riddell> I just added you
[13:43] <rgreening> debfx: then, just start from the maverixk package and work from there
[13:43] <rgreening> oh.. cool
[13:43] <rgreening> Riddell: ++
[13:43] <debfx> Riddell: thanks :)
[13:44] <rgreening> ok, debfx, grab the package and let me know when you have it so I can delete it from the PPA
[13:44] <rgreening> brb
[13:47] <shadeslayer> wheee... kdegames is done
[13:48] <debfx> rgreening: it's gone now
[13:48] <Nightrose> apachelogger: you don't
[13:48] <shadeslayer> weird E: kajongg: python-script-but-no-python-dep ./usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/kajongg.py
[13:48] <apachelogger> Nightrose: right, more like > 25 :(
[13:48] <Nightrose> no no no
[13:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you can ignore that as long as you added the python-kde4 depends
[13:49] <shadeslayer> yes i have
[13:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: rocking, job done, upload to ninjas PPA and bzr
[13:52] <rgreening> ty debfx
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ill upload to ninjas,bzr will have to wait a while,i have to go somewhere right now
[14:00] <debfx> Riddell: are the qt4-x11 and qtwebkit upstream version numbers going to stay synced?
[14:02] <rgreening> Riddell: are you backporting kdevplatform to lucid? we have a depwait on it for some package in PPA.
[14:07] <rgreening> hmm... my bad, its depwait in maverick.. retrying.
[14:07] <rgreening> but we prob want kdevplatform and kdevelop for lucid
[14:12] <rgreening> Quintasan: you around
[14:13] <Riddell> debfx: unsure, it'll have a lower version number when it's released standalone
[14:33] <debfx> Riddell: libqt4-webkit-dev should depend on libqt4-dev, I guess it could just depend on >= 4:4.7~beta1
[14:34]  * txwikinger wonders if he needs access to the ninja ppa
[14:34] <Riddell> debfx: mm yes it should
[14:34] <Riddell> txwikinger: what's your lp id?
[14:34] <txwikinger> Riddell: txwikinger
[14:35] <Riddell> NCommander: could you pimp this build please?  upstream have released and waiting several days for a build is rediculous https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1/+build/1756537
[14:35] <Riddell> txwikinger: added https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa
[14:36] <txwikinger> Riddell: thanks.. works
[14:45] <rgreening> Quintasan, shadeslayer, lex79, Riddell: kdebase, kdegames, kdesdk and kdeutils are respectively tagged as being in progress by you for Maverick. Any status?
[14:45] <NCommander> Riddell: kicked
[14:45]  * rgreening wearing release hat
[14:45]  * rgreening puls out the indy classic whip
[14:46]  * NCommander eats rgreening's hat
[14:46] <rgreening> and get a first crack with the whip
[14:47] <rgreening> o~~ *craaAAckk*
[14:50] <Riddell> rgreening: kdeutils just uploaded
[14:51] <Riddell> rgreening: I've stolen kdesdk off lex79 and am doing that now
[14:51] <rgreening> :)
[14:51] <rgreening> koolios
[14:51] <rgreening> I'll take kdebase then I guess
[14:51] <rgreening> brb
[14:54] <Riddell> rgreening: Quintasan seemed to suggest he was done with that
[14:54] <Riddell> and only had a query about symbols
[14:54] <rgreening> Riddell: hmm... was he coming back to upload?
[14:55] <Riddell> I guess he will this European evening
[14:56] <rgreening> ok.. then I'll look at some of the lucid backports that are not yet done...
[14:57] <Riddell> rgreening: txwikinger is down for kdegames
[14:57] <Riddell> and I'll do kdesdk backport
[14:57] <txwikinger> Riddell: is it up yet?
[14:58] <rgreening> I'll look at oxygen icons which isnt backported.
[14:58] <rgreening> kdegames wasnt done for maverick yet. shadeslayer was workin on it
[14:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer said he was uploading to ninjas but I don't see it :(
[14:59] <rgreening> yeah
[14:59] <rgreening> mebe forgot to comit
[14:59] <rgreening> kdevelop and kdevplatform need backporting also to lucid if txwikinger wishes...
[14:59] <txwikinger> rgreening: ok no problem
[15:00] <rgreening> Riddell: kdevelop keeps failing in maverick
[15:00] <rgreening> Riddell: as did your upload of kdeutils
[15:01] <txwikinger> must be the 4.4 stuff.. I looked at the log it is an invalid cast
[15:01] <rgreening> Found Python library: PYTHON_LIBRARY-NOTFOUND
[15:01] <Riddell> fixng kdeutils
[15:01] <rgreening> kdeutils ^
[15:01] <Riddell> that's fine
[15:01] <txwikinger> Riddell: do you want me to look at the kdevelop stuff in ninja too?
[15:01] <Riddell> it's shared-mime-info which is the error
[15:03] <rgreening> txwikinger: kdevplatform can be backported
[15:03] <rgreening> it built fine in maverick
[15:03] <txwikinger> yeah
[15:04] <rgreening> kdevelop for maverick failed to build txwikinger, if you want to look at that
[15:04] <txwikinger> rgreening: I have a look.. I am sure it build fine for me
[15:04] <rgreening> unless Riddell wishes
[15:04] <rgreening> :)
[15:04] <rgreening> lol
[15:04] <txwikinger> however, I don't have the ninja stuff on my maverick :)
[15:05] <Riddell> "../../../../languages/cpp/codegen/unresolvedincludeassistant.cpp:39: error: 'Ui' has not been declared
[15:05] <Riddell> hum, random build failure
[15:05] <Riddell> maybe kdevelop doesn't like qt 4.7 or kde 4.5
[15:05] <txwikinger> Riddell: yep that's what I think
[15:05] <txwikinger> I will look at it 
[15:06] <txwikinger> I will first do the backports
[15:06] <Riddell> or maybe it needs 10_private_libs_soversion.diff which I removed
[15:08] <txwikinger> Riddell: well.. did you make the changes in the code too?
[15:08] <Riddell> no
[15:08] <txwikinger> that might be a problem :)
[15:11] <txwikinger> for the backport I add ~lucid1~ppa1?
[15:11] <Riddell> yes
[15:12] <txwikinger> Riddell: for the backport, should I try to get rid of the soversion patch, or should you leave it in?
[15:13] <Riddell> txwikinger: if it's needed then keep it, but I don't see why we would need it when Debian doesn't
[15:14] <txwikinger> Riddell: ok. I will try to remove it.. I think I know what needs to be changed
[15:14] <txwikinger> Riddell: for the backport you need the debdiff to the current lucid package, right?
[15:15] <Riddell> for the backport a .dsc and .debian.tar.gz is fine
[15:16] <txwikinger> ok
[15:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 583735 is acked
[15:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: accepted
[15:26] <Riddell> NCommander: did we come to any conclusions about qt4 on arm?
[15:30] <rgreening> Riddell: kdesdk failed
[15:33] <NCommander> Riddell: lzma sucks.
[15:33] <NCommander> Riddell: and locks up the processor. We'll likely just change it to bz2 and see if it fixs it
[15:34] <Riddell> NCommander: so you'll take care of it or it's something I should do?
[15:34] <Riddell> rgreening: fix uploaded
[15:34] <NCommander> Riddell: I'm on it, although you may have to sponsor
[15:34] <debfx> Riddell: qtwebkit doesn't have a bzr branch, should I create one?
[15:34] <rgreening> Riddell: cool.
[15:34] <Riddell> txwikinger: compiling kdevelop on maverick with that patch back
[15:34] <Riddell> debfx: yes please do
[15:35] <txwikinger> Riddell: ok
[15:40] <rgreening> Riddell: wrt  bug 583735, is that fix in KDE 4.4.80?
[15:43] <rgreening> Riddell, txwikinger: I'll backport kdevplatform now...
[15:43] <txwikinger> rgreening: fine :)
[15:43] <rgreening> txwikinger: I assume you are working kdevelop?
[15:44] <txwikinger> Well.. I have to write an invoice that someone is waiting for and then I will work on kdevelop :)
[15:44] <rgreening> Riddell: should we have a bzr repo for kdevplatform?
[15:45] <txwikinger> if you have one for kdevelop, you probably should have one for kdevplatform
[15:53] <rgreening> whats the correct way to add a new project for me to add kdevplatform to bzr? Riddell?
[15:55] <agateau> Riddell: will you ship Qt 4.7 in Maverick alpha1 ?
[15:59] <rgreening> debfx: hey, how did you add the new qtwebkit branch
[16:01] <txwikinger> rgreening: I am working on the kdevelop backport now
[16:01] <rgreening> cool
[16:02] <txwikinger> rgreening: Are we somehow on some timeline with that?
[16:03] <rgreening> no, just trying to get everything uploaded and backported so we can move on to other things :)
[16:04] <txwikinger> rgreening: :D
[16:04] <debfx> rgreening: what exactly do you want to know?
[16:05] <rgreening> I tried to do it from the desktop shell using bzr commands but it failed. Did you need to go to launchpad first and make a branck?
[16:05] <rgreening> branch
[16:05]  * rgreening still has some issues with lp and bzr
[16:05] <rgreening> lol
[16:05] <txwikinger> rgreening: Is kdevplatform already uploaded?
[16:06] <debfx> no, just bzr push lp:~kubuntu-members/qtwebkit/ubuntu
[16:06] <rgreening> txwikinger: you mean in bzr or backported?
[16:06] <txwikinger> backported
[16:06] <rgreening> txwikinger: just uploaded
[16:06] <txwikinger> kdevelop depends on it, and pbuilder does not build if it is missing
[16:06] <rgreening> debfx: did you bzr init and add the files first?
[16:07] <rgreening> debfx: this is what I am getting: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~kubuntu-members/kdevplatform/ubuntu": No such project: kdevplatform
[16:07]  * txwikinger maybe should add it locally
[16:07] <rgreening> txwikinger: should build momentarily
[16:08] <txwikinger> ah.. ok.. then I will wait
[16:08]  * txwikinger needs to recreate pbuilder base with backports anyway
[16:08] <Riddell> agateau: yes 4.7 is already in maverick
[16:08] <debfx> rgreening: maybe the project "kdevplatform" has to exist on lp
[16:09] <Riddell> rgreening: fill in the form at launchpad.net/projects
[16:09] <agateau> Riddell: ok, time to rebase my menubar ppa on 4.7 then
[16:09] <shtylman_> agateau: is your dbus menu patch in 4.7 now?
[16:09] <agateau> shtylman_: no it's still based on 4.6
[16:09] <shtylman_> (dbus menubar that is)
[16:09] <shtylman_> I see
[16:10] <agateau> it used to be based on 4.7 but I backported it and carried on working on 4.6
[16:10] <agateau> so I need to forwardport it :)
[16:10] <shtylman_> heh
[16:10] <Riddell> rgreening: wrt  bug 583735 I think apachelogger was waiting on how 4.5 turned out pim-wise (also kolabsys will be doing pim stuff for us this cycle so it'll have no bugs at all)
[16:11] <Riddell> txwikinger: kdevelop builds fine with that patch, any idea why we need it and Debian doesn't?
[16:11] <txwikinger> Riddell: I think I do
[16:11] <txwikinger> I saw some lines in the diff that seem to do something different
[16:12] <txwikinger> if it has some time, I can try to change it in a way that we don't need the patch
[16:12] <Riddell> txwikinger: or we could just keep it
[16:12] <txwikinger> I don't think it matters a lot
[16:13] <Riddell> uploaded to PPA with patch
[16:13] <txwikinger> however, just to make it easier for the future it might be good to be able to remove it
[16:13] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: kdegames is up in ninja ppa,im trying a local lucid build,if that completes,you wont have to do a single thing
[16:13] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: cool
[16:13] <shadeslayer> then i can go try out meego :P
[16:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: pkg-kde-tools is fine for maverick right?
[16:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes
[16:15] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: I got a failed to build for maverick
[16:15] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:15] <shadeslayer> 2 conflicting statements :P
[16:16] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: did your build die locally as well?
[16:16] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: No.. I got an e-mail :)
[16:16] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: i meant in a chroot :P
[16:16] <rgreening> Riddell: Im lost. I try to do it under ~kubuntu-members, but end up with a +junk in the URL
[16:17] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: Riddell bah kdegames failed in ppa
[16:17] <txwikinger> the patchsys-quilt.mk or something like this is not found
[16:18]  * txwikinger wonders how to get the nickname debate of the bugsquad ML
[16:18] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: same thing here
[16:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: pkg-kde-tools borked in macerick as well :P
[16:19] <txwikinger> btw.. I got some feedback to the Hug Day.. there were some requests we should choose a different day than ubuntu
[16:20] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: saw that on the ML
[16:20] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: i think their pov is right
[16:21] <txwikinger> well.. not sure about right.. but I see some merit in it
[16:22] <shadeslayer> how utterly weird...
[16:22] <txwikinger> rgreening: which backport is kdevplatform supposed to appear? the ppa or ubuntu-backport?
[16:22] <shadeslayer> same package version of pkg-kde-tools in ppa and in my chroot,still the build fails
[16:23] <rgreening> txwikinger: sry. just realized I pushed it to my personal PPA. Just re-uploaded to ninjas
[16:23] <debfx> shadeslayer: what's the error message?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> debfx: /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk:7: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk: No such file or directory
[16:23] <txwikinger> rgreening: ninjas?
[16:24] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: ninja ppa
[16:24] <rgreening> txwikinger: do you have access to ~kubuntu-ninjas?
[16:24] <txwikinger> rgreening: yes
[16:24] <rgreening> then, thats where it'll be
[16:24] <txwikinger> I was just wondering
[16:24] <rgreening> :)
[16:24] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: :P
[16:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so build-dep on quilt
[16:24] <rgreening> we haven't moved stuff from ninjas yet
[16:25] <txwikinger> ah.. ok.. that was probably the point I was missing :)
[16:25] <rgreening> Riddell: I give up on creating a branch in lp...
[16:25]  * txwikinger works on adding the ninja-ppa to his pbuilderrc
[16:25] <Riddell> rgreening: for what?
[16:25] <rgreening> kdevplatform for hosting the debian dir
[16:25] <rgreening> it doesn't yet exist
[16:26] <Riddell> rgreening: did you create a project?
[16:27] <debfx> shadeslayer: does the package use source format 3.0?
[16:27] <shadeslayer> debfx: yes
[16:27] <Riddell> rgreening: easy form to fill in https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new
[16:27] <shadeslayer> debfx: i thought since there were no patches i could remove quilt
[16:28] <debfx> shadeslayer: does debian/patches exist in your local package?
[16:28] <txwikinger> Riddell: kdevelop failed again
[16:28] <shadeslayer> debfx: yes..
[16:28] <shadeslayer> debfx: but it has no files
[16:29] <debfx> shadeslayer: you need to remove it
[16:29] <debfx> shadeslayer: debian-qt-kde.mk checks if the dir exists and includes quilt if it does
[16:29] <Riddell> txwikinger: same issue :(
[16:29] <shadeslayer> debfx: well ... i just uploaded with quilt :P
[16:29] <txwikinger> Riddell: yes.. maybe it has rather to do with the new Qt or KDE version
[16:30] <shadeslayer> debfx: should i upload without quilt and debian/patches ?
[16:30] <shadeslayer> or should i leave it
[16:31] <txwikinger> Do we backport Qt4.7 and KDE4.4 to lucid too?
[16:31] <Riddell> txwikinger: "error: ui_custom_include_paths.h: No such file or directory
[16:31] <debfx> shadeslayer: doesn't matter
[16:31] <debfx> as long as it builds :)
[16:31] <Riddell> txwikinger: that should be built from kdevelop-4.0.0/languages/cpp/codegen/ui/custom_include_paths.ui
[16:31] <Riddell> txwikinger: I'm building in a maverick chroot with the latest qt and kdelibs et al
[16:32] <Riddell> txwikinger: yes ninjas is backporting qt4.7 and kde 4.5
[16:32] <shadeslayer> debfx: :P
[16:32] <rgreening> Riddell: using that form how do I make it appear under ~kubuntu-members
[16:32] <txwikinger> I built it in maverick chroot without anything but the standard packages
[16:32] <txwikinger> and in pbuilder
[16:32] <debfx> still debian-qt-kde.mk shouldn't automatically include quilt as dpkg-source handles the patching for source format 3.0 packages
[16:33] <txwikinger> Riddell: do you get the same error in your chroot build?
[16:33] <Riddell> rgreening: you create the project then you can push to a bzr branch for that project (such as lp:~kubuntu-members/kdevplatform/ubuntu)
[16:33] <rgreening> oh
[16:33] <rgreening> ok
[16:34] <rgreening> I have a 2hr meeting now.. Ill try it after that
[16:34] <txwikinger> good luck with your meeting :)
[16:35] <rgreening> Riddell: what boost do we use for Lucid. kdevplatform for maverick and the backport is set for this: libboost-serialization1.42-dev and the backport fails. Can I just downgrade?
[16:36] <Riddell> rgreening: yes downgrade to 1.40
[16:38] <rgreening> k. uploading then meeting..
[16:44] <ScottK> rgreening: Upload during the meeting.
[16:45] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkggzgames.so.4.5.0': No such file or directory
[16:45] <shadeslayer> whee...
[16:45] <rgreening> ScottK: already uploaded
[16:45] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: up for packaging kdegames for lucid?
[16:45] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: ok
[16:45] <rgreening> meeting is in another rm no access for me from there...
[16:45] <Riddell> ScottK: am I right in assuming there's no release meeting today?
[16:45] <rgreening> ok, really gone now...
[16:45] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: have fun :)
[16:46] <rgreening> bbi2hr
[16:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: arg!
[16:47] <Riddell> kajongg/kajongg.desktop has the same issue as the .desktop files in svn
[16:47] <Riddell> it already contains X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain
[16:47] <Riddell> why would someone commit to svn with with?
[16:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ no idea what youre saying :P
[16:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kajongg/kajongg.desktop contains a line with X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain.  that gets added and removed when we build out packages.  but upstream already added it so it's breaking the package build
[16:49] <Riddell> it means the debian-changes-4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[16:49] <shadeslayer> ah....
[16:49] <Riddell> it means the debian-changes-4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1 patch gets made but then can't apply
[16:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so you'll need to remake the .orig.tar.bz2 with that removed
[16:50] <Riddell> I've removed it from svn
[16:50] <ScottK> Riddell: AFAIK, no.
[16:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: so repack the orignal tarball after removing the .desktop file
[16:51] <shadeslayer> right?
[16:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: after removing just that line from the .desktop file
[16:51] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:52] <ScottK> Riddell: If we're going to repack the tarball anyway, that kind of defeats the purpose of using format v3 and tar.bz2.
[16:53] <ScottK> Can't it just be patched?
[16:53] <Riddell> ScottK: no, it's the patching system which is breaking (not unreasonably so)
[16:53] <ScottK> Nice.
[16:54] <ScottK> So it's a bug we can fix by repacking now and get upstream to fix before the final release then?
[16:54] <Riddell> I've already fixed it upstream
[16:55] <Riddell> kde revision 1131667
[16:55] <ScottK> Ah.  Great.  Nevermind my whining then.
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: kdegames_4.4.80+repack.orig.tar.bz2 right?
[16:57] <shadeslayer> the repacked tarball
[16:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'd just call it kdegames_4.4.80.orig.tar.bz2
[16:58] <Riddell> I've deleted the old one from the PPA, although it might take an hour to clear
[16:58] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[17:07] <shtylman_> koffice 2.2 is out
[17:08] <shadeslayer> whee... more work ;)
[17:10] <Riddell> it's packaged
[17:11] <Riddell> just waiting on amd64 backport to announce
[17:12] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:13] <shadeslayer> well lucid kdegames is building again
[17:18] <shadeslayer> anyone have a idea how to boot a meego image from grub2?
[17:19] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:20] <txwikinger> how can I make pbuilder use the ninja ppa?
[17:20] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: add the ninja ppa to the pbuilderrc
[17:21] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: or,make a default pbuider chroot and add the ppa later through chroot login
[17:21] <txwikinger> yeah.. but apt can't use https as transport without the special package being loaded
[17:22] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: yeah thats the apt-https-transport package
[17:22] <txwikinger> yes
[17:22] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: so best way is to make a default pbuilder and then install that package and then add the ppa
[17:26] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: btw i think the lucid kdegames package is done ;)
[17:26] <txwikinger> ok
[17:29] <shadeslayer> yep.. done
[17:31] <shadeslayer> wow...loads of lintian errors :P
[17:31] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/ha4hfwUU
[17:33] <txwikinger> fix them :)
[17:34] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: which ones are important? and which ones can i leave
[17:34] <txwikinger> You need to look at each of them individually
[17:35] <txwikinger> well. some of them are all the same thing
[17:35] <txwikinger> i.e. the rpath stuff
[17:35] <txwikinger> I think there is a fix for it
[17:36] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: care to share? :P
[17:37] <txwikinger> I think I saw something in kdevplatform pacakge
[17:37] <txwikinger> look at the current to debian diff I submitted
[17:37] <Quintasan> rgreening: yeah
[17:38] <Quintasan> I'm still stuck at symbols
[17:39] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+files/kdevplatform_1.0.0-0ubuntu2_1.0.0-1ubuntu3~ppa1.diff.gz << last 3 lines?
[17:39] <Quintasan> Riddell: I got the microblogging patch
[17:39] <shadeslayer> so i add DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=ON to rules
[17:40] <Quintasan> in fact I've done it yesterday but I wanted to testbuild
[17:40] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: yes the lines with +
[17:40] <txwikinger> Not sure if that will fix lintian.. I have not read the bug
[17:42] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:42] <shadeslayer> last try for lucid build
[17:43] <Riddell> Quintasan: cor
[17:43] <Riddell> Quintasan: how about kdebase?
[17:44] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://wklej.org/id/341481/
[17:44] <Riddell> Quintasan: can't say I'm too fussed about some symbols
[17:45] <Quintasan> I'm quite not sure what to do with this
[17:45] <Riddell> Quintasan: ignore it
[17:47] <Quintasan> Riddell: how? it makes ftbfs, should I remove the .symbols file?
[17:48] <Riddell> hmm fooey
[17:50] <Riddell> yeah remove it if that fixes it
[17:51] <jtechidna> Quintasan: save that diff to a file, then do a pkgkde-symbols helper patch filename -p libkonq5
[17:51] <jtechidna> er
[17:51] <jtechidna> pkgkde-symbolshelper patch filename -p libkonq5
[17:52] <Riddell> right, that's the answer I ment to give :)
[17:52] <jtechidna> I should write something to a mailing list about symbols stuff sometime, I think
[17:53] <jtechidna> "symbols and you; a guide to a happier dh_shlibdeps"
[17:54] <Riddell> txwikinger: kdevelop also succeeds in building on a fresh chroot here :(
[17:54] <txwikinger> fresh chroot == without the new qt and kde packages?
[17:54] <Riddell> with them
[17:55] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: same thing : E: kgoldrunner: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/games/kgoldrunner /usr/lib
[17:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ got a fix for it ?
[17:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I wouldn't worry about rpaths, I think they're no bad thing
[17:55] <shadeslayer> ok..
[17:56] <Quintasan> Do you want to assign one version to all new symbols (ENTER if no)?
[17:56] <Quintasan> What version? [ u = 4:4.4.80 / d = 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1~ / v = 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1 / enter other ]: 
[17:56] <Quintasan> ?
[17:56] <txwikinger> Riddell: it looks like the package is ok.. something in the building process fails
[17:56] <jtechidna> Quintasan: 4:4.4.80, unless a patch of ours is responsible for the new symbols
[17:56] <txwikinger> could it be that it does not load the right packages?
[17:57] <txwikinger> when I do an apt-get upgrade in my chroot all those new packages are held back
[17:57] <Riddell> txwikinger: it's just not compiling that .ui file in the right order
[17:57] <Riddell> they might be held back if you have something needing the old libs, like kdevelop
[17:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/SmpYi5Di
[17:57] <txwikinger> right
[17:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ive fixed W: kdegames-dbg: possible-new-upstream-release-without-new-version
[17:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: groovy
[17:58] <shadeslayer> awesome :)
[17:58] <Quintasan> jtechidna: usr/lib/libkbookmarkmodel_private.so.4 goes to libkonq5?
[17:59] <jtechidna> It should probably go with wherever the bookmark editor lives
[17:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: well i guess kdegames is done for lucid as well
[18:00] <shadeslayer> will upload in a hour
[18:00] <jtechidna> though if it's a private library upstream should really be putting it in /usr/lib/kde4/....
[18:00] <Quintasan> ./debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkbookmarkmodel_private.so
[18:00] <jtechidna> Quintasan: kdebase-bin
[18:00] <Quintasan> beats me why it is there
[18:00] <jtechidna> well, that's upstream's fault
[18:00] <jtechidna> not too big of a deal though
[18:01] <jtechidna> just not entirely kosher
[18:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: and the duplicate desktop entries should go away with the new source
[18:01] <txwikinger> Riddell: why would the ppa building process do something different than chroot build or pbuilder build?
[18:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do i have to mention in the changelog that a new source is being uploaded?
[18:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes, bump the ~ppaX number too
[18:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it may not get accepted yet, depends if the old .orig has been cleared
[18:02] <Riddell> txwikinger: it shouldn't!
[18:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah ill upload it in another hour
[18:03] <shadeslayer> should be gone till then :P
[18:03]  * txwikinger thought so too
[18:04]  * Riddell out too
[18:04] <txwikinger> this package held back is stupid
[18:04] <txwikinger> I got all the packages loaded by targeted installs instead
[18:07] <txwikinger> Riddell: could it be that there is a diskspace problem on the ppa build?
[18:13] <shadeslayer> wow... only 2GB of free space on home
[18:13] <shadeslayer> need to clear all these debs... :P
[18:19] <debfx> jtechidna: what should I do when there are missing symbols?
[18:21] <jtechidna> debfx: This means that upstream has removed the methods corresponding to those symbols. Hopefully, no public symbols will have been removed, because otherwise it'd be breaking ABI
[18:21] <jtechidna> They can be cleaned up manually
[18:22] <shadeslayer> debfx: in my debian/patches folder i have debian-changes-4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1 patch,can i remove that?
[18:22] <shadeslayer> its causing a FTBFS
[18:22] <debfx> jtechidna:  the remove and hope for the best strategy? :D
[18:22] <lex79> debfx: thanks for pkg-kde-tools ;)
[18:22] <jtechidna> debfx: yes :D
[18:23] <debfx> shadeslayer: when you build a source 3.0 package, dpkg puts your changes to the upstream tarball in a debian/patches/<version> file
[18:23] <shadeslayer> ok,while building the package
[18:23] <debfx> if you don't want the changes, remove the file
[18:24] <debfx> you might have to call quilt pop -a afterwards, but not sure about that
[18:24] <shadeslayer> hmmm..
[18:25] <shadeslayer> eww.. lp still hasnt removed the original tarball
[18:25] <debfx> otherwise dpkg might re-add the patch
[18:26] <ScottK> IIRC, you'll need to edit debian/patches/series too.
[18:27] <shadeslayer> debfx: well i ran debuild -S -sa without debian/patch folder and voila no debian/patch folder after completion
[18:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i removed the entire patch folder
[18:28] <ScottK> OK.  That would cover it.
[18:28] <shadeslayer> should i wait for lp to remove the tarball or should i just re upload a new tarball
[18:29] <shadeslayer> https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdegames/
[18:31] <debfx> is qtwebkit supposed to expose the webkit api?
[18:32] <debfx> it didn't in 4.6
[18:54] <debfx> I don't think qtwebkit is meant to be built stand-alone
[18:57] <rgreening> Quintasan: kdebase???
[18:57] <rgreening> :)
[18:58] <Quintasan> rgreening: working on it, will upload soon
[18:59] <rgreening> Quintasan: ty :)
[19:00] <rgreening> lex79, Riddell: kdesdk package?
[19:01] <lex79> in bzr I think
[19:12] <rgreening> lex79: can we get it in ninjas-ppa?
[19:12] <rgreening> and working :)
[19:12] <rgreening> so I can backport it for my lucid install :)
[19:12] <rgreening> hah
[19:13] <lex79> I can do
[19:14] <txwikinger> Riddell: I compared the build logs for kdevelop... almost looks like a race problem to me
[19:14] <Quintasan> lex79: any idea where those files should go? -> http://wklej.org/id/341536/
[19:15] <jtechidna> Quintasan: I know that the libkdeinit4 ones are false-positives
[19:16] <jtechidna> Quintasan: the sidebar stuff should go in libkonqsidebarplugin4a
[19:17] <jtechidna> Quintasan: useragent stuff in kdebase-data
[19:19] <lex79> rgreening: I uploaded kdesdk, also for lucid ;(
[19:19] <rgreening> Quintasan: kfind.install for the kfind.desktop (though it may be false positive)
[19:19] <lex79> ehm, I mean this -> ;)
[19:19] <lex79> :D
[19:20] <rgreening> lex79: haha
[19:20] <rgreening> kool
[19:21] <lex79> kdeutils ~ppa1 is in archive LoL
[19:21] <shadeslayer> checkout jono bacon at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon 
[19:21] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:21] <rgreening> lex79: kdesdk for maverick?
[19:22] <rgreening> or you did both
[19:23] <lex79> rgreening: I uploaded kdesdk for maverick and lucid in ninja
[19:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://wklej.org/id/341541/ <-- microblogging patch
[19:34] <rgreening> lex79: only lucid shows up in PPA
[19:35] <apachelogger> fregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/PM2rdYkE.html <[19:35] <lex79> rgreening: weird
[19:35] <lex79> I'm going to reupload
[19:36] <apachelogger> Oo
[19:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: scary
[19:36] <apachelogger> very very scary
[19:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: :P
[19:37]  * apachelogger should do that too
[19:37] <shadeslayer> hahaha.
[19:37] <lex79> rgreening: kdesdk reuploaded
[19:38] <apachelogger> man that is pointless
[19:38] <apachelogger> Oo
[19:39] <fregl> apachelogger: is that a bunny on a bike? :)
[19:40] <shadeslayer> omg http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/webkit-trademark/ 
[19:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: stream upcoming
[19:48] <apachelogger> fregl: I suppose so
[19:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: EH?
[19:48] <shadeslayer> sorry for the caps :P
[19:48] <apachelogger> SURE
[19:48] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the stream? which video?
[19:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: tarball hasnt been removed till now :(
[19:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/magic-rabbit
[19:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im rohangarg :P
[20:03]  * txwikinger found the problem with kdevelop
[20:04] <Quintasan> rgreening: uploading kdebase to ninja ppa
[20:04] <lex79> rgreening: The source kdesdk - 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa2 is already accepted in ubuntu/maverick and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload.
[20:04] <lex79> rgreening: maybe Riddell uploaded it and then deleted
[20:04] <lex79> I think we have to wait
[20:04] <shadeslayer> lex79: how long before a package gets deleted?
[20:05] <shadeslayer> including source and all
[20:05] <rgreening> lex79: did you debuild -S -sa or debuild -S -sd? sd is correct
[20:05] <lex79> shadeslayer: I don't know exactly
[20:05] <shadeslayer> sd? what does sd do?
[20:05] <lex79> rgreening: ok I try
[20:05] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[20:05] <kubotu> apachelogger is listening to "Piranha" by The Prodigy [Invaders Must Die, 2009] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[20:05] <rgreening> -sd assumes the source is already uploaded
[20:05]  * apachelogger takes Nightrose for a dance
[20:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ah ok :)
[20:05] <rgreening> -sa means upload the source tar file
[20:06]  * Nightrose dances through the channel with apachelogger
[20:06] <shadeslayer> rgreening: knew that :P
[20:06] <rgreening> lex79: kdesdk ftbfs also for lucid
[20:06] <rgreening> Quintasan: ty
[20:07]  * apachelogger and Nightrose stumble over Riddell who happened to have fallen asleep in some deserted part of the channel
[20:07] <Quintasan> push'd to bzr
[20:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hahaha
[20:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw what do you think your OS will be based upon?
[20:08] <shadeslayer> like apt? or yum? or something else?
[20:08] <lex79> rgreening: that's it Riddell fault, I don't know what he did, I just uploaded the package from bzr :)
[20:08] <rgreening> lex79: care ot debug
[20:08] <rgreening> lex79: care to debug :)
[20:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: new invention that actually make sense
[20:09] <apachelogger> so
[20:09] <apachelogger> I came to wonder
[20:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hmm.. i actually like the pardus approach :P
[20:10] <apachelogger> Nightrose: when do I get a wikipedia page?
[20:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: they have an approach?
[20:10]  * apachelogger notes that pardus was never really hyped by KDE :(
[20:10] <lex79> the new way to apply patch is annoying sometimes
[20:10] <Quintasan> apachelogger and sense used together in one sentence - usually makes no sense
[20:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah :P
[20:10]  * apachelogger has a condition!
[20:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: only download diff's of new packages,thereby reducing download size
[20:10] <apachelogger> condition > approach
[20:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that is stupid
[20:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: why?
[20:11] <apachelogger> because they require computation power
[20:11] <apachelogger> which was invented by suse anyway
[20:11] <apachelogger> well
[20:11] <apachelogger> s/inventend/established
[20:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: #launchpad says that i cant upload new tarball with same name :P
[20:12] <Quintasan> still better than downloading over 9000 mb of packages because of a small change
[20:12] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^
[20:12] <apachelogger> what you need is a mixture of binary diffs + file-only downloads + stream compression
[20:12] <shadeslayer> yep :P
[20:12] <apachelogger> Quintasan: no it is not
[20:12] <lex79> rgreening: kdesdk accepted, but I think will be ftbs like for lucid
[20:12] <Quintasan> apachelogger: say that to ppl with crappy connection (like mine)
[20:13] <apachelogger> Quintasan: say that to ppl with crappy pcs (like Nightrose)
[20:13] <apachelogger> there is no one solution
[20:13] <Quintasan> damn you rosetta
[20:13] <Quintasan> spamming my inbox once again
[20:13] <apachelogger> you need to either waste bandwith or cpu time
[20:13] <Quintasan> why not waste both if we are at it?
[20:13] <Quintasan> :P
[20:13] <Nightrose> apachelogger: hehe no idea - what would be on your wiki page?
[20:14] <apachelogger> and what it shall be is entirely depending on the indvidual specs
[20:15] <apachelogger> Nightrose: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jono_Bacon
[20:15] <apachelogger> something like that
[20:15] <apachelogger> seems generic enough
[20:15] <Nightrose> ;-)
[20:15] <apachelogger> anyhow, on a more important topic
[20:16] <apachelogger> I need a minion to improve KDE performance
[20:16] <Quintasan> Sound Board == another crappy layer to put on top of PA?
[20:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: don't even look at me
[20:16]  * Quintasan points at Trouble
[20:16] <apachelogger> sound board?
[20:16] <apachelogger> what would that be?
[20:16] <Quintasan> blagh
[20:16] <Quintasan> Sound Menu
[20:16] <Quintasan> :P
[20:16] <apachelogger> sounds like something to eat
[20:17] <apachelogger> Quintasan: it is not particularly about pa really
[20:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: im uploading with +repack
[20:17] <apachelogger> youd just remove indivdual UI represnentations of sound stuff and merge it into one
[20:18]  * lex79 out for a bit
[20:20] <Quintasan> a wikipage about apachelogger? it's not like it's going to get tons of pageviews, is it? ;p
[20:20] <apachelogger> brrrr
[20:20] <apachelogger> bug 554514 is made out of ewww
[20:20] <apachelogger> completely sticky inside and outside
[20:20] <apachelogger> not very fluffy
[20:20] <apachelogger> horrible
[20:21] <apachelogger> and everyone reads the comments so carefully, incredibly
[20:30] <rgreening> Quintasan: are you backporting kdebase to lucid or will I go ahead and do it?
[20:31] <Quintasan> rgreening: please do so if you can
[20:31] <rgreening> kk
[20:37] <shadeslayer> !info hello-debhelper maverick
[21:13] <sheldon> hi, when will be available kde 4.4.80 packages in ppa for lucid?
[21:16] <shadeslayer> what do i name the new archive of kdegames?
[21:20] <shadeslayer> so any ideas??
[21:20] <shadeslayer> suggestions?
[21:22] <shadeslayer> i did kdegames_4.4.80+repack.orig.tar.bz2 buts not being picked up
[21:24] <txwikinger> rgreening: Do you have an idea how to best prevent parallel make for our packages?
[21:25] <rgreening> txwikinger: is that the issue with kdevelop?
[21:25] <txwikinger> yes I believe so
[21:25] <shadeslayer> rgreening: any idea what version should the repacked archive be?
[21:25] <rgreening> not sure how to affect that... 
[21:26] <txwikinger> We don't need to have parallel make do we?
[21:27] <rgreening> shadeslayer: name the tar and extracted dir with the same extension. for example kdegames_4.4.80a.orig.tar.bz2 kdegames-4.4.80a
[21:27] <rgreening> txwikinger: dunno
[21:27] <rgreening> shadeslayer: then debuild on that
[21:27] <shadeslayer> ok
[21:28] <rgreening> shadeslayer: just ping Riddell to let him know he should rename back to the non 'a' version when he pushes to archive
[21:28] <shadeslayer> rgreening: will lucid use the same source?
[21:29] <rgreening> shadeslayer: backported you can debuild -S -sd (yes, same source). Riddell will need to rename as well
[21:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: im renaming the source to kdegames_4.4.80a.orig.tar.bz2 please rename it back when you push to archive :P
[21:30] <rgreening> shadeslayer: try and get him when he's online as well :)
[21:30] <rgreening> just in case he misses the chat log
[21:30] <shadeslayer> rgreening: sure
[21:30] <shadeslayer> ok now ill ping out.. uploading new tarball
[21:30] <shadeslayer> lets see how long i last :P
[21:32] <debfx> txwikinger: inserting "DEB_BUILD_PARALLEL=" after "include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk" should disable parallel building
[21:32] <txwikinger> that is what I would have tried debfx :)
[21:35] <txwikinger> rgreening: Can I just push the change kdevelop to the ppa?
[21:35] <rgreening> apachelogger: kubuntu-dev-tools needs updating :)
[21:35] <rgreening> txwikinger: sure thing my friend
[21:35] <apachelogger> tell me about it ^^
[21:36] <txwikinger> rgreening: do I need to do something different with dput?
[21:36] <rgreening> apachelogger: it gets remove if I upgrade to newer kde 4.4.80
[21:36] <rgreening> txwikinger: dput kubuntu-ninjas *.changes
[21:36] <apachelogger> ohm
[21:36] <apachelogger> rgreening: probably because of broken ruby?
[21:36] <apachelogger> eh
[21:36] <apachelogger> kruby
[21:37] <apachelogger> ruby-kde
[21:37] <rgreening> apachelogger: I suspect there is a hard dep on kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[21:37]  * apachelogger is wondering if it depends on that at all ^^
[21:37] <apachelogger> ah
[21:37] <apachelogger> that could be
[21:37] <rgreening> can you update it
[21:37] <rgreening> and push to the PPA
[21:38] <rgreening> needs to conflict replace on << 4:4.4.80 and depend on kdebas-runtime >= 4:4.4.80
[21:38] <rgreening> or whatever
[21:38] <rgreening> apachelogger: ^
[21:38] <rgreening> ty
[21:40] <shadeslayer> wow.. im still here...
[21:41] <debfx> the vlc phonon backend doesn't support artist/title metadata for streams :(
[21:42] <shadeslayer> debfx: does it output sound? xine and gstreamer dont even work right now :P
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> ಥ_ಥ
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> ha, that's neat
[21:44] <debfx> shadeslayer: yeah, but I suspect that another backend won't fix the issue for you
[21:44]  * ryanakca wonders if the sysadmins are avoiding us
[21:44] <Tm_T> ryanakca: rather wonder where they are hiding (:
[21:45] <shadeslayer> ryanakca: im sure they are :P
[21:45] <shadeslayer> else we would have a shiny new site by now.... :(
[21:51] <shadeslayer> kdegames is up and should build :P
[21:51] <shadeslayer> if someone doesnt tamper with pkg-kde-tools that is :P
[21:52] <shadeslayer> whee.. new kdebase :D
[21:55] <deepak_>  Team , would like to know that what will be the best way to contribute to the team, I am an Debian mantainer and I know debian packaging ...
[21:56] <JontheEchidna> dolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit4_dolphin.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:56] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: maybe not a false positive? :s
[21:56] <Quintasan> looks like it then :S
[21:56] <JontheEchidna> I know that there were some, but I suppose there were some valid new ones
[21:56] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: anything left for deepak_ ? :P
[21:57] <deepak_> shadeslayer: I am sure there will be something, I read the doc but is there any specific list of packages or bugs ?
[21:58] <shadeslayer> deepak_: well theres the need packaging bugs at launchpad
[21:58] <shadeslayer> deepak_: just go to bugs.launchpad.net and click on the needs packaging tag
[21:59] <rgreening> deepak_: talk to txwikinger 
[21:59] <rgreening> deepak_: kontact was our hugday today
[21:59] <shadeslayer> deepak_: then theres new merges to be done from debian
[21:59] <shadeslayer> deepak_: see the topic for that :P
[22:00] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: at the moment I'm getting ready to go to KFC to pick up some food
[22:00] <deepak_> shadeslayer:  thanks much. 
[22:01] <JontheEchidna> but it seems that you guys are doing fine with suggestions without me :)
[22:01] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: :P
[22:01]  * JontheEchidna will return with chicken
[22:01] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: and a crusher
[22:02] <shadeslayer> deepak_: theres also this https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html 
[22:02] <shadeslayer> deepak_: also contact #ubuntu-motu
[22:03] <deepak_> shadeslayer: Thanks a lot
[22:05]  * shadeslayer grumbles about lp not accepting his uploads
[22:07] <rgreening> debian src format 3.0 is driving me NUTZ!
[22:10] <rgreening> Riddell: kdesdk doesn't build because the debuild makes local changes and it stores a copy of this as a patch. that patch subsequently fails. This is the part that causes the issue:
[22:10] <rgreening> # clean up edited .desktop etc files
[22:10] <rgreening> if [ -f /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/createdesktopcontext.pl ]; then \
[22:10] <rgreening>           sh /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles LIST; \
[22:10] <rgreening>           for file in `cat LIST`; do \
[22:10] <rgreening>              sed -i '/X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=/d' ${file}; \
[22:10] <rgreening>           done; \
[22:10] <rgreening>           rm -f LIST; \
[22:10] <rgreening>         fi
[22:11] <shadeslayer> rgreening: its just a folder dude :)
[22:11]  * shadeslayer wonders how a folder can drive people nuts
[22:11] <rgreening> if it were only a folder...
[22:12] <rgreening> tell ya what, shadeslayer, feel free to fix kdesdk and let me know how you did it after .. it's only a folder right?
[22:12] <rgreening> :)
[22:12] <shadeslayer> rgreening: aha! just do rm -rf debian/patches
[22:12] <shadeslayer> ( worked for me )
[22:13] <shadeslayer> rgreening: ok only if you give my Electro magnetic theory exam :P
[22:13] <rgreening> umm... huh? there are patches in that dir required
[22:13] <rgreening> this is clearly a pkg-kde-tools.mk issue called from debuild
[22:14] <apachelogger> hm
[22:14] <apachelogger> yeah
[22:14] <rgreening> apachelogger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:14] <apachelogger> that is not debsrc3 valid 
[22:14] <deepak_> rgreening are you using dpkg-source quit 3.0  format?
[22:14] <rgreening> apachelogger: halp me with it please :)
[22:15] <apachelogger> possibly needs a clean hook
[22:15] <shadeslayer> rgreening: oh.. how about just removing the debian changes file ?
[22:15] <shadeslayer> from debian/patch
[22:16] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: which .desktop file? I can remove the Ubuntu-gettext-domain entry from svn for the next prerelease
[22:17] <apachelogger>  oha
[22:17] <apachelogger> kubuntu_override_dh_clean_impl:
[22:17] <apachelogger> ah
[22:17] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: this is in svn?
[22:17] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.
[22:17] <rgreening> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file kapptemplate/templates/C++/konqplugin/konqplugin.kdevtemplate.rej
[22:17] <rgreening> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.
[22:17] <rgreening> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file kapptemplate/templates/ruby/rubykonqplugin/rubykonqplugin.kdevtemplate.rej
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pkgbinarymangler is the only thing that would add that entry, so one must suppose it is in svn
[22:18] <rgreening> Ruby and Konq.. both evil entities
[22:18] <apachelogger> Oo
[22:18] <apachelogger> that is mad
[22:18] <apachelogger> anyhow
[22:18] <apachelogger> ou dh7 magic does...
[22:18] <apachelogger> add the ubuntu domain
[22:18] <apachelogger> and then remove it in the clean
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> orly?
[22:18] <apachelogger> so no issue with pkg-kde-tools
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> hmm, new one on me
[22:18] <apachelogger> see kubuntu/debhelper/kubuntu.mk
[22:19] <apachelogger> kubuntu_override_dh_clean_impl:
[22:19] <apachelogger> cleans
[22:19] <apachelogger> kubuntu_override_dh_installdocs_impl:
[22:19] <apachelogger> adds
[22:19] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: what debhelpver version should I be dep on
[22:19] <JontheEchidna> but then this should only be an issue if you've done a debuild 
[22:19] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: 7.3.16 or higher
[22:19] <debfx> kdesdk uses cdbs
[22:20] <apachelogger> I also think our cdbs magic cleans properly :P
[22:20] <apachelogger> rgreening: can you push your current package somehwhere?
[22:20] <apachelogger> debfx: kubuntu/kubuntu.mk also cleans properly
[22:21] <rgreening> apachelogger: its in bzr. its actually Riddell/debfx's upload I am trying to fix
[22:21] <apachelogger> ah
[22:21] <JontheEchidna> kde svn 1131630
[22:21]  * JontheEchidna called it
[22:21] <rgreening> apachelogger: its the one in ninja PPA which is currently FTBFS
[22:21] <JontheEchidna> As usual, Riddell is 5 hours ahead of us
[22:21] <apachelogger> ^^
[22:21] <apachelogger> how did that get upstream to begin with? :P
[22:22] <JontheEchidna> this usually happens when an upstream uses an existing .desktop file as a template for a new one
[22:22] <JontheEchidna> and when this upstream happens to be using Kubuntu...
[22:22]  * apachelogger hates kubuntu
[22:22] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: fixed and uploaded
[22:22] <apachelogger> though I think suse does that too?
[22:23] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: oh thats from kdegames i think
[22:23] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: what's from kdegames?
[22:23] <shadeslayer> he must have realised that it exsisted in some other project as well
[22:24] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: kajongg.desktop had a X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain entry,thats why i had to remove it and repack source
[22:24] <rgreening> apachelogger: so, will you be able to have a peek and fix kdesdk?
[22:24] <shadeslayer> so im guessing he saw the same in the above said project as well
[22:24]  * shadeslayer prays his upload goes through
[22:24] <Riddell> I said I have kdesdk ready, I just couldn't upload it because it needed to wait for the old .orig.tar.bz2 to be deleted from the PPA
[22:24] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: all of our .desktop files have that post-processing
[22:25] <rgreening> Riddell: oh
[22:25] <rgreening> so, you repacked the source?
[22:25] <Riddell> or if I didn't say it, I ment to :)
[22:25] <Riddell> yes I repacked the source
[22:25] <rgreening> oh... crap
[22:25] <rgreening> so, now you have to go though the wait again.. as it's uploaded
[22:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: had to upload new source with different name
[22:25] <rgreening> and ftbfs
[22:25] <rgreening> lol
[22:25] <shadeslayer> original source refused to go away :P
[22:25] <apachelogger> rgreening: thanks for wasting my time :P
[22:26]  * rgreening goes away
[22:26] <shadeslayer> ( wrt to kdegames )
[22:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hehe
[22:26] <Quintasan> apachelogger: it's not like you are lacking time to waste :P
[22:26] <shadeslayer> wheee
[22:26]  * rgreening rm -rf kdesdk
[22:28] <rgreening> apachelogger: did you get kubuntu-dev-tools figured out for the new deps
[22:28] <apachelogger> rgreening: nope
[22:30] <shadeslayer> uh... why are we building kdebase for karmic?
[22:30] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1587145
[22:30] <shadeslayer> i mean multimedia
[22:32] <shadeslayer> uh oh
[22:33] <shadeslayer> whoops... uploaded wrong stuff for lucid
[22:33] <rgreening> shadeslayer broke lp
[22:33] <shadeslayer> rgreening: :P
[22:34]  * shadeslayer gets a hammer and starts with lp.net/~rgreening
[22:39] <Riddell> blurg, 4.4.4 tars are out, let's ignore them until we get 4.5 beta done
[22:39] <shadeslayer> oh noes...
[22:40] <shadeslayer> yeah.. no one will download 4.4  if we get 4.5 out first :P
[22:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: in ktown?
[22:41] <shadeslayer> bah...
[22:43] <debfx> oh I need to adjust my mail filters again, I get spammed with all the ftbfs mails from your uploads :p
[22:43] <shadeslayer> hehe
[22:43] <shadeslayer> same thing here :P
[22:43]  * shadeslayer already has a awesome filter
[22:45] <debfx> fortunately launchpad provides a X-Creator-Recipient header
[22:45] <debfx> which contains the mail address of the uploader
[22:46]  * apachelogger needs a new laptop :(
[22:47] <shadeslayer> debfx: heh.. i just created a filter for all mails which have the words list:(<launchpad-users.lists.launchpad.net>)
[22:48] <shadeslayer> s/have/had
[22:54] <apachelogger> kubotu: karma apachelogger
[22:54] <kubotu> karma for apachelogger: 16
[22:58] <shadeslayer> kubotu: karma shadeslayer 
[22:58] <kubotu> shadeslayer has neutral karma
[22:58] <shadeslayer> :(
[22:58] <Tm_T> kubotu: karma Tm_T
[22:58] <kubotu> karma for Tm_T: -1
[22:58] <Tm_T> only one?!
[22:58] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: -1
[22:58] <shadeslayer> not one... :P
[22:58] <Tm_T> thanks
[22:58] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: i dont thing its lp karma :P
[22:58] <shadeslayer> *think
[22:59] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: I know it isn't
[23:00] <shadeslayer> well kdegames builds on maverick in ppa... only problem is that i didnt realise that there was no kdegames 4.4.80a-0ubuntu1~ppa1 and ppa2,uploaded ppa3 directly :P
[23:00] <shadeslayer> kubotu: help karma
[23:00] <kubotu> karma module: Listens to everyone's chat. <thing>++/<thing>-- => increase/decrease karma for <thing>, karma for <thing>? => show karma for <thing>, karmastats => show stats. Karma is a community rating system - only in-channel messages can affect karma and you cannot adjust your own.
[23:00] <apachelogger> Tm_T==
[23:00] <apachelogger> that was oodd
[23:00] <apachelogger> see, my keyboard is doing weird things
[23:01]  * apachelogger hits it a bit
[23:01] <apachelogger> Tm_T--
[23:01] <apachelogger> there we go
[23:01] <Tm_T> apachelogger: no, it's just you
[23:01] <apachelogger> oh
[23:01] <apachelogger> :(
[23:01] <apachelogger> :'(
[23:01] <apachelogger> you are so horrible
[23:01] <shadeslayer> that was dramatic :P
[23:01] <Tm_T> ...and we didn't hear from him since
[23:01] <shadeslayer> hahah
[23:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger++ :P
[23:02] <shadeslayer> karma apachelogger
[23:02] <shadeslayer> kubotu: karma apachelogger
[23:02] <kubotu> karma for apachelogger: 17
[23:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger-- xD
[23:02] <shadeslayer> anyways im off too
[23:03] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: bye :)
[23:05] <Quintasan> hmm
[23:06] <Quintasan> do we have final 4.0.0 ktorrent package in maverick?
[23:07] <Quintasan> !info ktorrent
[23:07] <Quintasan> !info ktorrent maverick
[23:07] <Quintasan> :/
[23:07] <Quintasan> time to fix it
[23:12] <shadeslayer> oh i give up on kdegames lucid... 
[23:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: please get someone to work on the kdegames lucid build,im not going be available for the next week :)
[23:13] <shadeslayer> the install files need to be tweaked probably..
[23:20] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFUUUUU-
[23:20] <Quintasan> how the hell I'm supposed to sync gluon when lp is being sloooooow
[23:25] <ScottK> When is it not?