[00:02] ahh, pics :) [00:03] apachelogger: why are we kind of grinning on the ones we are on? [00:03] fregl: would you prefer grumpy faces? [00:06] good pics these are [00:06] *nod* [00:18] kubotu: np [00:18] apachelogger is listening to "Daft Punk is Playing at my House (Soulwax Shibuya Re-Remix)" by LCD Soundsystem [Most Of The Remixes...] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more [00:30] hm [00:31] http://pastebin.ca/1873170 [00:31] madness [00:54] apachelogger: who can raise the build score of that? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/1.1.17-1ubuntu4/+build/1760773 === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [01:38] hm [01:38] lex79: NCommander for example [01:39] thx [01:39] JontheEchidna: I think it would be much better if knh had a init() slot and you singleshot 0 to this, intead of building everything in the constructor [01:40] IIRC qtimer will only shoot once resources are available [01:40] hence making the loading of the module less blocking [01:41] hrm, semi-lazy initialization, interesting [01:45] Ugh, libqt4-assistant still has rdepends === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [03:56] man, I need to clean up my computer area. shit keeps falling off of shelves and landing perfectly on the power strip, shutting my server off...twice in a week this has happened [03:56] i was at portillos trying to ssh into my machine with no luck...hate when that happens [05:58] nixternal: LOL [06:51] Riddell: so the problem with Qt4 is that lzma compression takes really really long :-/ [06:52] Riddell: changing the compress to something less CPU intensive will likely solve the build timeout issue [07:15] NCommander: Once we have xz support, will that help? [07:32] ScottK: TBH, I'm not sure how much number crunching xz does [07:32] apachelogger: lol you don't look old on that pic [07:32] But crunching the dbg debs down thats a TON of CPU time and RAM [07:32] Its been going for about 4 hours now [07:33] NCommander: We don't have space issues on armel. I think a patch that dropped lzma on just armel would be fine. Could you do such a change? [07:36] ScottK: if we're shipping the dbg debs on the CD, I think we have bigger issues ;-) [07:37] ScottK: let me talk to lamont, he may just want to raise the timeout instead of eating more disk space [07:45] apachelogger: i know someone who would :-) [08:52] lex79: sorry, didn't see you in the backscroll for the rescore request, but the build has already finished [10:23] <\sh> moins [10:24] <\sh> do we already have kde 4.5 for lucid somewhere available? [10:25] not yet [10:42] Quintasan: ping [10:43] what's the status of kdebase? it's making kde-standard uninstallable [10:48] NCommander: No, I was thinking skipping lzma for all of qt4-x11 on armel. [11:06] ScottK: oh. I thought we had actually done that on a previous release [11:06] (or maybe a different package) [11:08] we may have done, I don't recall [11:13] hmmm. Was 10.04 KNE or KNR? [11:13] Also, any news on Ofir's theme? [11:13] KNR [11:14] no, it's been assigned to squinky but not heard anything else yet, am getting grumpy [11:14] feel free to poke him [11:14] squinky@canonical.com ? [11:16] ScottK: Done, http://www.kubuntu.org/reviews [11:17] ryanakca: squinky on freenode [11:18] Riddell: OK, will poke him [11:26] * ScottK imagines ryanakca searching through the jungles of freenode with a spear. [11:26] Thanks ryanakca. [11:53] lex79: what's the status of kdesdk? [11:56] ok quick question,i have loads of missing files,ive adjusted some of them in the .install files in debian/ but i cant adjust this one usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kajongg/index.docbook [11:56] can't adjust? [11:56] with reference to kdegames [11:56] Riddell: like which install file does that go to [11:57] kmahjongg.install [11:57] Riddell: i thought so too,but why is it named kajongg then? :P [11:57] hum, missing an m [11:57] yep.. [11:58] so either its a upstream problem.. or we need a new .install file for it :P [11:58] Riddell: ok and what about usr/lib/liblibkcardgame.so [11:59] should i put it in kdegames-card-data.install ? [11:59] All the .install files are here : http://pastebin.com/rMCFU0Sz [12:02] seems like kajongg is a new game [12:02] ah.. so new .install file :) [12:03] Riddell: then why do i get only documentation files as missing,wheres the rest of the game :P [12:03] so add an entry in debian/control and a new .install file [12:03] use this for description http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kajongg?content=103206 [12:03] ok [12:04] yes kajongg is new game, went thru review this spring [12:06] "liblibkcardgame.so" liblib? that doesn't seem right [12:07] yep.. thats what i thought [12:07] find . -name CMakeLists.txt | xargs grep kcardgam [12:07] that tells me it's from kpat [12:07] so put it into kpat.install [12:07] Tm_T: btw why doesnt dh_install --list-missing show any binaries for kajongg [12:08] Riddell: okies.. no worries about liblib? [12:09] shadeslayer: upstream problem, they should fix the same and decide if it's versioned or not (if not should be in /usr/lib/kde4/) [12:09] shadeslayer: so when it's all packaged please e-mail the kdegames list and tell them of the issue [12:09] s/fix the same/fix the name/ [12:11] IF(PYQT4_FOUND AND PYKDE4_FOUND AND SQLITE_FOUND) SET(INSTALL_KAJONGG TRUE) [12:11] shadeslayer: so kajongg needs python-kde4 and sqlite build-deps, it doesn't give any warning if you don't have those (I'll fix that in svn) [12:12] Riddell: ill add those to the control file [12:12] then rebuild and see what files kajongg adds [12:13] Riddell: any particular version? [12:13] for the 2 deps.. [12:14] !info sqlite maverick [12:14] sqlite (source: sqlite): command line interface for SQLite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.17-6build2 (maverick), package size 16 kB, installed size 88 kB [12:19] shadeslayer: actually just do DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DINSTALL_KAJONGG [12:19] shadeslayer: actually just do DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DINSTALL_KAJONGG:BOOL=TRUE [12:20] Riddell: hehe.. ok ill add that to rules [12:20] shadeslayer: then in debian/control on the kajongg package add a manual Depends: python-kde4, python-twisted, libqt4-sql-sqlite [12:22] Riddell: ok [12:22] Riddell: should i also add ${shlibs:Depends} ? [12:23] may as well yes [12:26] Riddell: btw ive put usr/lib/libpala/libpala-config.cmake in palapeli.install [12:26] i hope thats right [12:27] should be fine there [12:28] shadeslayer: kajongg will install a load of .py files which we want and a load of .pyc files which we don't, you can ignore the .pyc files [12:29] shadeslayer: kajongg also needs a Depends on python-qt4-sql [12:30] Riddell: how do i remove the .pyc file? [12:30] *files [12:31] just leave them alone? :P [12:32] yes [12:34] shadeslayer: looks like kajongg also needs a depends on kdegames-mahjongg-data [12:37] runs now but can't start a game, guess it has some work to do [12:37] Riddell: usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4 should be in libkdegames5.install or libkdegames5-dev.install ? [12:38] same thing for usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4.5.0 [12:38] in kolf.install [12:39] Riddell: i tried that,i got a error saying that it could find usr/lib/libkolfprivate.so.4 [12:45] Riddell: btw did you see this : pkg-kde-tools: Depends: libdpkg-perl (>= 1.15.5~) but it is not installable [12:46] Riddell: got a few warnings http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/ZsqpAWiw [12:48] warnings can be ignored, just a result of upstreams library issue [12:48] ok.. well i think this build will go to completion [12:49] yep [12:49] yay [12:49] in the end i got loads of dpkg-genchanges: warning: duplicate files list entry for file kdegames-card-data_4.4.80-0ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb (line 26) [12:50] Riddell: oh noes W: kajongg: empty-binary-package [12:50] shadeslayer: did you add all the .py files to kajongg? [12:50] Riddell: which files? i added the doc files [12:51] if you built with -DINSTALL_KAJONGG:BOOL=TRUE it should install the kajongg files too [12:51] (it'll need a full rebuild) [12:53] ah thats why [12:53] i didnt do a full rebuild [12:54] doing a full build.. will take about 20 mins [12:56] shadeslayer: that pkg-kde-tools is in lucid or maverick? [12:57] Riddell: lucid [12:57] that'll be lex79 trying to get kdebindings working [12:57] Riddell: ah.. ok,lots of FTBFS due to that ;) [12:58] fooey [12:59] Riddell: hehe.. had to wait for kdeartwork to build after 15 hours or so and voila,FTBFS :P [13:00] ill be back in a few mins ;) [13:10] groovy, upgrade succeded without overwrite errors [13:13] Riddell: lucid? [13:13] kdegames is 72 pc build btw [13:14] Riddell: Did you catch my comment yesterday, that I merged kdevelop and kdevplatform? [13:15] txwikinger: yes just looking at it now [13:15] Riddell: cool [13:15] txwikinger: those l10n packages are crazy but ho hum, we'll follow debian [13:15] yeah.. they are [13:15] I tried to get it as close as possible to debian [13:15] txwikinger: I'll bump the build-dep to 4.4.80 to it gets the new beta libraries and upload to ninjas PPA [13:16] ok [13:16] Riddell: btw what do i put in the changelog of kdegames,there were a insane amount of edhits === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [13:16] mornin [13:16] *edits [13:16] rgreening: hey :) [13:16] o/ shadeslayer [13:17] hey rgreening [13:17] shadeslayer: just summaries the main changes. the new packages and edits to debian/rules. [13:17] Riddell: ok. [13:17] shadeslayer: oh you can close that MIR bug for openal now that we know gluon isn't needed [13:17] Riddell: it was assigned to someone [13:18] bug 586324 [13:18] Launchpad bug 586324 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "[MIR]libopenal-dev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586324 [13:18] * txwikinger wonders what to do today [13:19] txwikinger: can you package kdegames for lucid? [13:19] im short of time.... [13:19] I can have a look [13:19] what needs to be done? merge? [13:19] txwikinger: well most if the work has been done,ill be uploading maverick package in a few mins [13:20] txwikinger: 4.4.80 release [13:20] ah [13:20] txwikinger: it's a backport from maverick he's after [13:20] just a backport :) [13:20] Ah [13:20] ok.. I have a look [13:20] tell me when and where I get the stuff from maverick [13:20] txwikinger: ninja ppa will provide you the maverick package [13:21] txwikinger: i havent uploaded yet [13:21] ok [13:21] its still building locally here... [13:22] * txwikinger is burning up... It is morning and already as hot as in Texas [13:23] txwikinger: its 45oC here [13:23] well.. not in the morning I hope [13:24] ha. It's like 4 degrees here... brrrr [13:25] txwikinger: its evening :P [13:25] i have this huge cooler right next to the laptop and my face :P [13:25] Do you have a watertight laptop for the pool? [13:26] one of these http://www.asia.ru/images/img/alibaba/photo/50195554/Movable_Air_Cooler.jpg [13:26] hehe... [13:26] Don't get my wife any ideas [13:27] I bet you can't pay the energy costs for it [13:27] txwikinger: well.. its quite efficient [13:27] it consumes 1/4 the total electricity of a Air Conditioner [13:27] A/c's are destroying the fabric of society :p [13:28] Before A/C's people would spend time outside and talk with each other.. now they all bunker in inside and watch TV [13:28] txwikinger: true.. [13:28] same thing goes for the internet [13:29] well.. there are Internet cafes [13:30] and to be fair.. there are also sport bars [13:30] Riddell: btw i dont put the .pyc files in kajongg.install right? [13:31] sabdfl: oh, who would? ^^ [13:31] shadeslayer: correct [13:32] Nightrose: I look like 25 on that picture :P [13:33] my girlfriend! [13:33] Riddell, lex79: issues for lucid backport... pkg-kde-tools: Depends: libdpkg-perl (>= 1.15.5~) but it is not installable [13:33] The package is not installable and breaks lucid builds [13:34] rgreening: lex79's doing, I think just delete it for now [13:35] Riddell: do you remember why we needed to backport pkg-kde-tools to lucid? [13:35] was it kdebindings? [13:35] rgreening: yes [13:35] but it's not working like that so just delete it until lex79 comes back for another look [13:35] ok. Ill delete. [13:36] or we could just not backport kdebindings [13:36] lex79: when you get back, we need to rethink pkg-kde-tools.. breaks everything else in lucid [13:36] I can backport pkg-kde-tools if lex79 hasn't started doing it [13:36] true.. but prefer to have it if we can [13:36] basically some changes from ubuntu2 need to be reverted [13:36] debfx: it was backported... but breaks things. [13:37] debfx: if you can fix.. [13:37] it would be appreciated [13:38] Im going to delete it from the PPA for now. debfx do you need to grab a copy first? [13:38] 5... 4... 3... [13:38] rgreening: were there any changes? [13:38] 2... 1... [13:38] :) [13:38] dunno [13:39] lex79 did it [13:39] compared to the maverick version [13:39] possibly [13:39] grab it quickly then... [13:39] run run [13:39] :) [13:39] where is it? I don't think I have access to it ^^ [13:42] debfx: ninja ppa... you not a NINJA yet? [13:42] we need to fix that :) [13:42] rgreening: nope [13:43] debfx: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa [13:43] I just added you [13:43] debfx: then, just start from the maverixk package and work from there [13:43] oh.. cool [13:43] Riddell: ++ [13:43] Riddell: thanks :) [13:44] ok, debfx, grab the package and let me know when you have it so I can delete it from the PPA [13:44] brb [13:47] wheee... kdegames is done [13:48] rgreening: it's gone now [13:48] apachelogger: you don't [13:48] weird E: kajongg: python-script-but-no-python-dep ./usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/kajongg.py [13:48] Nightrose: right, more like > 25 :( [13:48] no no no [13:48] shadeslayer: you can ignore that as long as you added the python-kde4 depends [13:49] yes i have [13:50] shadeslayer: rocking, job done, upload to ninjas PPA and bzr [13:52] ty debfx [13:55] Riddell: ill upload to ninjas,bzr will have to wait a while,i have to go somewhere right now [14:00] Riddell: are the qt4-x11 and qtwebkit upstream version numbers going to stay synced? [14:02] Riddell: are you backporting kdevplatform to lucid? we have a depwait on it for some package in PPA. [14:07] hmm... my bad, its depwait in maverick.. retrying. [14:07] but we prob want kdevplatform and kdevelop for lucid [14:12] Quintasan: you around [14:13] debfx: unsure, it'll have a lower version number when it's released standalone [14:33] Riddell: libqt4-webkit-dev should depend on libqt4-dev, I guess it could just depend on >= 4:4.7~beta1 [14:34] * txwikinger wonders if he needs access to the ninja ppa [14:34] debfx: mm yes it should [14:34] txwikinger: what's your lp id? [14:34] Riddell: txwikinger [14:35] NCommander: could you pimp this build please? upstream have released and waiting several days for a build is rediculous https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/1:2.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1/+build/1756537 [14:35] txwikinger: added https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa [14:36] Riddell: thanks.. works [14:45] Quintasan, shadeslayer, lex79, Riddell: kdebase, kdegames, kdesdk and kdeutils are respectively tagged as being in progress by you for Maverick. Any status? [14:45] Riddell: kicked [14:45] * rgreening wearing release hat [14:45] * rgreening puls out the indy classic whip [14:46] * NCommander eats rgreening's hat [14:46] and get a first crack with the whip [14:47] o~~ *craaAAckk* [14:50] rgreening: kdeutils just uploaded [14:51] rgreening: I've stolen kdesdk off lex79 and am doing that now [14:51] :) [14:51] koolios [14:51] I'll take kdebase then I guess [14:51] brb [14:54] rgreening: Quintasan seemed to suggest he was done with that [14:54] and only had a query about symbols [14:54] Riddell: hmm... was he coming back to upload? [14:55] I guess he will this European evening [14:56] ok.. then I'll look at some of the lucid backports that are not yet done... [14:57] rgreening: txwikinger is down for kdegames [14:57] and I'll do kdesdk backport [14:57] Riddell: is it up yet? [14:58] I'll look at oxygen icons which isnt backported. [14:58] kdegames wasnt done for maverick yet. shadeslayer was workin on it [14:58] shadeslayer said he was uploading to ninjas but I don't see it :( [14:59] yeah [14:59] mebe forgot to comit [14:59] kdevelop and kdevplatform need backporting also to lucid if txwikinger wishes... [14:59] rgreening: ok no problem [15:00] Riddell: kdevelop keeps failing in maverick [15:00] Riddell: as did your upload of kdeutils [15:01] must be the 4.4 stuff.. I looked at the log it is an invalid cast [15:01] Found Python library: PYTHON_LIBRARY-NOTFOUND [15:01] fixng kdeutils [15:01] kdeutils ^ [15:01] that's fine [15:01] Riddell: do you want me to look at the kdevelop stuff in ninja too? [15:01] it's shared-mime-info which is the error [15:03] txwikinger: kdevplatform can be backported [15:03] it built fine in maverick [15:03] yeah [15:04] kdevelop for maverick failed to build txwikinger, if you want to look at that [15:04] rgreening: I have a look.. I am sure it build fine for me [15:04] unless Riddell wishes [15:04] :) [15:04] lol [15:04] however, I don't have the ninja stuff on my maverick :) [15:05] "../../../../languages/cpp/codegen/unresolvedincludeassistant.cpp:39: error: 'Ui' has not been declared [15:05] hum, random build failure [15:05] maybe kdevelop doesn't like qt 4.7 or kde 4.5 [15:05] Riddell: yep that's what I think [15:05] I will look at it [15:06] I will first do the backports [15:06] or maybe it needs 10_private_libs_soversion.diff which I removed [15:08] Riddell: well.. did you make the changes in the code too? [15:08] no [15:08] that might be a problem :) [15:11] for the backport I add ~lucid1~ppa1? [15:11] yes [15:12] Riddell: for the backport, should I try to get rid of the soversion patch, or should you leave it in? [15:13] txwikinger: if it's needed then keep it, but I don't see why we would need it when Debian doesn't [15:14] Riddell: ok. I will try to remove it.. I think I know what needs to be changed [15:14] Riddell: for the backport you need the debdiff to the current lucid package, right? [15:15] for the backport a .dsc and .debian.tar.gz is fine [15:16] ok [15:18] Riddell: bug 583735 is acked [15:18] Launchpad bug 583735 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu Maverick) "Akonadi self-test comes up if startup takes too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583735 [15:23] apachelogger: accepted [15:26] NCommander: did we come to any conclusions about qt4 on arm? [15:30] Riddell: kdesdk failed [15:33] Riddell: lzma sucks. [15:33] Riddell: and locks up the processor. We'll likely just change it to bz2 and see if it fixs it [15:34] NCommander: so you'll take care of it or it's something I should do? [15:34] rgreening: fix uploaded [15:34] Riddell: I'm on it, although you may have to sponsor [15:34] Riddell: qtwebkit doesn't have a bzr branch, should I create one? [15:34] Riddell: cool. [15:34] txwikinger: compiling kdevelop on maverick with that patch back [15:34] debfx: yes please do [15:35] Riddell: ok [15:40] Riddell: wrt bug 583735, is that fix in KDE 4.4.80? [15:40] Launchpad bug 583735 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu Maverick) "Akonadi self-test comes up if startup takes too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583735 [15:43] Riddell, txwikinger: I'll backport kdevplatform now... [15:43] rgreening: fine :) [15:43] txwikinger: I assume you are working kdevelop? [15:44] Well.. I have to write an invoice that someone is waiting for and then I will work on kdevelop :) [15:44] Riddell: should we have a bzr repo for kdevplatform? [15:45] if you have one for kdevelop, you probably should have one for kdevplatform [15:53] whats the correct way to add a new project for me to add kdevplatform to bzr? Riddell? [15:55] Riddell: will you ship Qt 4.7 in Maverick alpha1 ? [15:59] debfx: hey, how did you add the new qtwebkit branch [16:01] rgreening: I am working on the kdevelop backport now [16:01] cool [16:02] rgreening: Are we somehow on some timeline with that? [16:03] no, just trying to get everything uploaded and backported so we can move on to other things :) [16:04] rgreening: :D [16:04] rgreening: what exactly do you want to know? [16:05] I tried to do it from the desktop shell using bzr commands but it failed. Did you need to go to launchpad first and make a branck? [16:05] branch [16:05] * rgreening still has some issues with lp and bzr [16:05] lol [16:05] rgreening: Is kdevplatform already uploaded? [16:06] no, just bzr push lp:~kubuntu-members/qtwebkit/ubuntu [16:06] txwikinger: you mean in bzr or backported? [16:06] backported [16:06] txwikinger: just uploaded === destro is now known as dendrobates [16:06] kdevelop depends on it, and pbuilder does not build if it is missing [16:06] debfx: did you bzr init and add the files first? [16:07] debfx: this is what I am getting: bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~kubuntu-members/kdevplatform/ubuntu": No such project: kdevplatform [16:07] * txwikinger maybe should add it locally [16:07] txwikinger: should build momentarily [16:08] ah.. ok.. then I will wait [16:08] * txwikinger needs to recreate pbuilder base with backports anyway [16:08] agateau: yes 4.7 is already in maverick [16:08] rgreening: maybe the project "kdevplatform" has to exist on lp [16:09] rgreening: fill in the form at launchpad.net/projects [16:09] Riddell: ok, time to rebase my menubar ppa on 4.7 then [16:09] agateau: is your dbus menu patch in 4.7 now? [16:09] shtylman_: no it's still based on 4.6 [16:09] (dbus menubar that is) [16:09] I see [16:10] it used to be based on 4.7 but I backported it and carried on working on 4.6 [16:10] so I need to forwardport it :) [16:10] heh [16:10] rgreening: wrt bug 583735 I think apachelogger was waiting on how 4.5 turned out pim-wise (also kolabsys will be doing pim stuff for us this cycle so it'll have no bugs at all) [16:10] Launchpad bug 583735 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu Maverick) "Akonadi self-test comes up if startup takes too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583735 [16:11] txwikinger: kdevelop builds fine with that patch, any idea why we need it and Debian doesn't? [16:11] Riddell: I think I do [16:11] I saw some lines in the diff that seem to do something different [16:12] if it has some time, I can try to change it in a way that we don't need the patch [16:12] txwikinger: or we could just keep it [16:12] I don't think it matters a lot [16:13] uploaded to PPA with patch [16:13] however, just to make it easier for the future it might be good to be able to remove it [16:13] txwikinger: kdegames is up in ninja ppa,im trying a local lucid build,if that completes,you wont have to do a single thing [16:13] shadeslayer: cool [16:13] then i can go try out meego :P [16:14] Riddell: pkg-kde-tools is fine for maverick right? [16:14] shadeslayer: yes [16:15] shadeslayer: I got a failed to build for maverick [16:15] hmm [16:15] 2 conflicting statements :P [16:16] txwikinger: did your build die locally as well? [16:16] shadeslayer: No.. I got an e-mail :) [16:16] txwikinger: i meant in a chroot :P [16:16] Riddell: Im lost. I try to do it under ~kubuntu-members, but end up with a +junk in the URL [16:17] txwikinger: Riddell bah kdegames failed in ppa [16:17] the patchsys-quilt.mk or something like this is not found [16:18] * txwikinger wonders how to get the nickname debate of the bugsquad ML [16:18]