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lifelessSEJeff: this channel, the help contact00:02
lifelessSEJeff: and/or answers.launchpad.net/launchpad00:02
SEJefflifeless, Excellent. We have a user trolling pitivi bugs. Currently he has only done 2. If it continues after we've asked him to stop, something else will have to be done00:05
SEJeffEveryone's help is much appreciated00:05
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* thumper hopes his connection stays up long enough to push these branches02:43
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bilalakhtarPeople, there is a breaking news. LP is blocked in saudi arabia! What do I do?07:01
bilalakhtarhelp! I can't live without lp. I manage two projects, triage ubuntu bugs, etc. find my profile on https://launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar9607:01
bilalakhtarI can access thw web int. using proxies but bzr and ppa?07:02
bilalakhtarIs there a way to get bzr to use proxies?07:02
spivbzr will respect the $http_proxy environment variable, if set.07:05
bilalakhtarI contacted the Internet Ministry of Saudi Arabia, they said that its the supreme order to ban sites 'that distribute non-trusted software (and potentially) viruses'07:05
micahgbilalakhtar: is microsoft.com banned yet :-/07:05
spivFor writing to branches, if you have another SSH server you can access, you should be able to put some magic in your ~/.ssh/config07:05
bilalakhtarspiv: thanks, will google now for more info. But, can all those who want lp unblocked, go to http://www.internet.gov.sa/resources/block-unblock-request/unblock/07:06
bilalakhtarmicahg: They knlow m$ very well, not going to block that. m$ has a big presence here. brainwashing the locals over here (I am not a local)07:07
bilalakhtargood! ftp server ppa.launchpad.net is not blocked! can upload directly. uploads are getting accepted07:07
spivbilalakhtar: if you're lucky bazaar.launchpad.net won't be blocked either07:08
bilalakhtarspiv: will see that07:08
bilalakhtarspiv: Looks like all connections to *.launchpad.net:80 are blocked, so only http ones are blocked. does bzr use http?07:09
spivbilalakhtar: it uses either http or https to resolve lp: URLs07:09
spivbilalakhtar: but to write to LP branches it uses SSH (port 22)07:10
spivbilalakhtar: so you may be able to workaround the block by using URLs like bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/proj/somebranch07:11
spiv(rather than the lp: shortcuts)07:11
bilalakhtarlet me see...07:11
bilalakhtarspiv: Looks like lp: addresses also use bzr+ssh:// so this is also unblocked!07:12
bilalakhtarhehe, saudi ministry, what can you do? there are multiple ways to connect to lp07:13
spivbilalakhtar: lp: addresses resolve to bzr+ssh so long as you've run "bzr lp-login ...", yes07:32
bilalakhtarspiv: good07:32
spivbilalakhtar: I'm glad you can get around the block :)07:33
bilalakhtarspiv: join the discussion about the block at #ubuntu-offtopic07:33
theadminHello people... uh, as far as I understand PPAs are gonna build from source themselves right? Can I just somehow upload already-built packages?08:20
jpdstheadmin: No, everything is built from sauce.08:23
bilalakhtartheadmin: you can't. If you want to, just apt-get source the package and upload the .changes file08:23
theadminjpds, bilalakhtar, thanks08:24
primes2hHello all, just a quick question. Once I deleted a empty ppa, is it possible to recreate one with the same name?10:47
bilalakhtarPeople, for those who know about it, theres good news: LP has finally been unblocked in saudi arabia. For more info, come to #ubuntu-offtopic10:47
noodles775primes2h: not at the moment. Currently deleting a ppa deletes the corresponding repository (if there was one), but leaves the database records there for the history (ie. the PPA still exists in the database, just marked as deleted).10:49
primes2hnoodles775: the ppa was empty, does this make difference?10:50
noodles775primes2h: not when deleting the PPA via the UI... Why do you want to delete it and recreate it with the same name?10:51
primes2hnoodles775: I created it a while ago, then yesterday I tried doing some tests. I needed to restart from the beginning because of some changes in the signature, so I deleted it.10:55
primes2hBut now I would like to recreate it as "ppa", otherwise I need to name it differently10:56
maxb"changes in the signature"?10:57
primes2hmaxb: I changed gpg key10:59
maxbYou changed your own gpg key?10:59
maxbWhy is that relevant?10:59
primes2hmaxb: is not? as I said before I'm testing the ppa stuff so sorry if I say stupid thing ;)11:01
primes2hthings11:01
maxbWhy did you decide to delete your PPA?11:02
ftafyi, I've played a bit with the lp API and made a dashboard for some of my dailies: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/11:04
noodles775fta: very nice!11:05
primes2hmaxb: because I thought I had been able to recreate it from the beginning. Don't ask me more please, I know I did a stupid thing. ;)11:06
maxbWell, I think you'll have to name your new PPA something else, or prevail upon the Launchpad admins to come to your aid11:06
ftanoodles775, thanks. too bad it's too slow11:07
ftaand i find it quite ugly atm.. i'm not very skilled in css11:07
primes2hmaxb: admins? any suggestion about people to contact? :)11:15
ftabtw, there's a problem with getPublishedSources(), it seems it's not reporting packages that have been copied11:16
maxbprimes2h: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion11:17
maxbExpect it to take quite some time. They're all sprinting this week, and your request is an unusual one11:17
primes2hmaxb: noodles775: ok, thanks a lot for your help.11:18
wgrantfta: It does report copied packages. What suggests that it does not?11:36
ftawgrant, for ex, look at my page, gyp is missing in maverick, yasm missing in hardy, etc..11:38
ftathose are copies11:38
wgrantgetPublishedSources should behave fine, but build-related methods may be a little odd.11:39
wgrantBecause the build will only be found in the original series.11:39
ftasomething is weird on the 'firefox' line too. jaunty & hardy.11:41
ftaputting some debugs in..11:41
ftaseems to be an API bug11:45
ftawgrant, http://paste.ubuntu.com/440806/  look at the last two getBuildSummariesForSourceIds, they only report the lpia builds11:47
wgrantfta: Were the two that report only lpia builds copies?11:54
ftawgrant, nope, same as the others11:56
ftawgrant, http://paste.ubuntu.com/440810/  am i doing something wrong in there?12:07
bearnard_howdy12:11
ftawgrant, i see.. as long as they are not all built for a given src id, they don't appear12:11
bearnard_how does one go about applying for a private ppa?12:11
maxbbearnard_: I think that's a pay-for feature unless you're working for Ubuntu security12:19
ftawgrant, did you end-up doing something for the apachelogparser yesterday?12:42
wgrantfta: It's out of my hands now.12:48
ftawgrant, no problem. i just asked to see if it's worth retrying today.. yesterday, after we discussed, i gave up and did the dashboard instead, while i had the nose in the API12:51
noodles775wgrant: I've just sent an email to losas requesting the patched parse-ppa-apache-access-logs... but as they're sprinting atm., I'm not sure how soon it will be.13:01
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bearnard_Yes id like to pay for a Private ppa, but how does one go about applying?13:18
bearnard_is there some sort of online application form etc..?13:18
noodles775Hi bearnard_ , https://edge.launchpad.net/+tour/join-launchpad#commercial  links to an email for getting in touch.13:21
bearnard_thanks noodles77513:23
bearnard_anyone have any idea how to enable the backports repo for build dependencies when building via a PPA on launchpad?13:24
noodles775bearnard_: Click on "Edit PPA dependencies" from your PPA page... there's an option for backports there.13:25
bearnard_doh! thanks again noodles77513:26
noodles775np :)13:26
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noodles775abentley: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/14:15
fta(i'm looking for ideas to make it even more compact)14:17
fta..and faster too. it's really too slow (110~160sec spent doing http requests)14:18
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ftawhich part of the API is used in the /+listing-archive-extra page for the "Builds" part?  it's not getBuildSummariesForSourceIds() apparently18:57
shadeslayerhi how long does it take for a package to disappear completely from a ppa?20:06
shadeslayeralong with sources and everything20:07
maxbFrom the indices? or from disk entirely?20:08
maxbIt should be gone from the indices within one publishing cycle, which I think is 5-10 minutes20:08
shadeslayermaxb: disks entirely,i can still see the source on ppa.launchpad.net20:09
maxbI'm not sure about that - but on the other hand, it shouldn't really matter20:09
shadeslayermaxb: actually it does,i have to upload a new tarball,but with the same name20:10
maxbYou can't do that. Ever.20:10
shadeslayermaxb: :(20:11
maxbThis is a good thing. It would be nastily confusing if you could.20:11
maxbLaunchpad does the right thing to prohibit reusing version numbers20:12
rm200910hello. can i use launchpad to branch a project hosted elsewhere? for example sourceforge21:27
beunorm200910, I don't follow21:33
beunowhat do you mean "branch a project"?21:33
rm200910hi. i mean the project is hosted in sourceforge (CVS) and I'd like to host a branch (in bzr) of the project under ~rm20091021:36
maxbrm200910: You can register a project record in Launchpad (if one does not already exist) and then register a VCS import.21:54
rm200910thanks maxb21:58
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andreserlhi all, is there a PPA for python-launchpadlib?22:39
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