[00:02] <lifeless> SEJeff: this channel, the help contact
[00:02] <lifeless> SEJeff: and/or answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[00:05] <SEJeff> lifeless, Excellent. We have a user trolling pitivi bugs. Currently he has only done 2. If it continues after we've asked him to stop, something else will have to be done
[00:05] <SEJeff> Everyone's help is much appreciated
[02:43]  * thumper hopes his connection stays up long enough to push these branches
[07:01] <bilalakhtar> People, there is a breaking news. LP is blocked in saudi arabia! What do I do?
[07:01] <bilalakhtar> help! I can't live without lp. I manage two projects, triage ubuntu bugs, etc. find my profile on https://launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar96
[07:02] <bilalakhtar> I can access thw web int. using proxies but bzr and ppa?
[07:02] <bilalakhtar> Is there a way to get bzr to use proxies?
[07:05] <spiv> bzr will respect the $http_proxy environment variable, if set.
[07:05] <bilalakhtar> I contacted the Internet Ministry of Saudi Arabia, they said that its the supreme order to ban sites 'that distribute non-trusted software (and potentially) viruses'
[07:05] <micahg> bilalakhtar: is microsoft.com banned yet :-/
[07:05] <spiv> For writing to branches, if you have another SSH server you can access, you should be able to put some magic in your ~/.ssh/config
[07:06] <bilalakhtar> spiv: thanks, will google now for more info. But, can all those who want lp unblocked, go to http://www.internet.gov.sa/resources/block-unblock-request/unblock/
[07:07] <bilalakhtar> micahg: They knlow m$ very well, not going to block that. m$ has a big presence here. brainwashing the locals over here (I am not a local)
[07:07] <bilalakhtar> good! ftp server ppa.launchpad.net is not blocked! can upload directly. uploads are getting accepted
[07:08] <spiv> bilalakhtar: if you're lucky bazaar.launchpad.net won't be blocked either
[07:08] <bilalakhtar> spiv: will see that
[07:09] <bilalakhtar> spiv: Looks like all connections to *.launchpad.net:80 are blocked, so only http ones are blocked. does bzr use http?
[07:09] <spiv> bilalakhtar: it uses either http or https to resolve lp: URLs
[07:10] <spiv> bilalakhtar: but to write to LP branches it uses SSH (port 22)
[07:11] <spiv> bilalakhtar: so you may be able to workaround the block by using URLs like bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/proj/somebranch
[07:11] <spiv> (rather than the lp: shortcuts)
[07:11] <bilalakhtar> let me see...
[07:12] <bilalakhtar> spiv: Looks like lp: addresses also use bzr+ssh:// so this is also unblocked!
[07:13] <bilalakhtar> hehe, saudi ministry, what can you do? there are multiple ways to connect to lp
[07:32] <spiv> bilalakhtar: lp: addresses resolve to bzr+ssh so long as you've run "bzr lp-login ...", yes
[07:32] <bilalakhtar> spiv: good
[07:33] <spiv> bilalakhtar: I'm glad you can get around the block :)
[07:33] <bilalakhtar> spiv: join the discussion about the block at #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <theadmin> Hello people... uh, as far as I understand PPAs are gonna build from source themselves right? Can I just somehow upload already-built packages?
[08:23] <jpds> theadmin: No, everything is built from sauce.
[08:23] <bilalakhtar> theadmin: you can't. If you want to, just apt-get source the package and upload the .changes file
[08:24] <theadmin> jpds, bilalakhtar, thanks
[10:47] <primes2h> Hello all, just a quick question. Once I deleted a empty ppa, is it possible to recreate one with the same name?
[10:47] <bilalakhtar> People, for those who know about it, theres good news: LP has finally been unblocked in saudi arabia. For more info, come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <noodles775> primes2h: not at the moment. Currently deleting a ppa deletes the corresponding repository (if there was one), but leaves the database records there for the history (ie. the PPA still exists in the database, just marked as deleted).
[10:50] <primes2h> noodles775: the ppa was empty, does this make difference?
[10:51] <noodles775> primes2h: not when deleting the PPA via the UI... Why do you want to delete it and recreate it with the same name?
[10:55] <primes2h> noodles775: I created it a while ago, then yesterday I tried doing some tests. I needed to restart from the beginning because of some changes in the signature, so I deleted it.
[10:56] <primes2h> But now I would like to recreate it as "ppa", otherwise I need to name it differently
[10:57] <maxb> "changes in the signature"?
[10:59] <primes2h> maxb: I changed gpg key
[10:59] <maxb> You changed your own gpg key?
[10:59] <maxb> Why is that relevant?
[11:01] <primes2h> maxb: is not? as I said before I'm testing the ppa stuff so sorry if I say stupid thing ;)
[11:01] <primes2h> things
[11:02] <maxb> Why did you decide to delete your PPA?
[11:04] <fta> fyi, I've played a bit with the lp API and made a dashboard for some of my dailies: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/
[11:05] <noodles775> fta: very nice!
[11:06] <primes2h> maxb: because I thought I had been able to recreate it from the beginning. Don't ask me more please, I know I did a stupid thing. ;)
[11:06] <maxb> Well, I think you'll have to name your new PPA something else, or prevail upon the Launchpad admins to come to your aid
[11:07] <fta> noodles775, thanks. too bad it's too slow
[11:07] <fta> and i find it quite ugly atm.. i'm not very skilled in css
[11:15] <primes2h> maxb: admins? any suggestion about people to contact? :)
[11:16] <fta> btw, there's a problem with getPublishedSources(), it seems it's not reporting packages that have been copied
[11:17] <maxb> primes2h: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[11:17] <maxb> Expect it to take quite some time. They're all sprinting this week, and your request is an unusual one
[11:18] <primes2h> maxb: noodles775: ok, thanks a lot for your help.
[11:36] <wgrant> fta: It does report copied packages. What suggests that it does not?
[11:38] <fta> wgrant, for ex, look at my page, gyp is missing in maverick, yasm missing in hardy, etc..
[11:38] <fta> those are copies
[11:39] <wgrant> getPublishedSources should behave fine, but build-related methods may be a little odd.
[11:39] <wgrant> Because the build will only be found in the original series.
[11:41] <fta> something is weird on the 'firefox' line too. jaunty & hardy.
[11:41] <fta> putting some debugs in..
[11:45] <fta> seems to be an API bug
[11:47] <fta> wgrant, http://paste.ubuntu.com/440806/  look at the last two getBuildSummariesForSourceIds, they only report the lpia builds
[11:54] <wgrant> fta: Were the two that report only lpia builds copies?
[11:56] <fta> wgrant, nope, same as the others
[12:07] <fta> wgrant, http://paste.ubuntu.com/440810/  am i doing something wrong in there?
[12:11] <bearnard_> howdy
[12:11] <fta> wgrant, i see.. as long as they are not all built for a given src id, they don't appear
[12:11] <bearnard_> how does one go about applying for a private ppa?
[12:19] <maxb> bearnard_: I think that's a pay-for feature unless you're working for Ubuntu security
[12:42] <fta> wgrant, did you end-up doing something for the apachelogparser yesterday?
[12:48] <wgrant> fta: It's out of my hands now.
[12:51] <fta> wgrant, no problem. i just asked to see if it's worth retrying today.. yesterday, after we discussed, i gave up and did the dashboard instead, while i had the nose in the API
[13:01] <noodles775> wgrant: I've just sent an email to losas requesting the patched parse-ppa-apache-access-logs... but as they're sprinting atm., I'm not sure how soon it will be.
[13:18] <bearnard_> Yes id like to pay for a Private ppa, but how does one go about applying?
[13:18] <bearnard_> is there some sort of online application form etc..?
[13:21] <noodles775> Hi bearnard_ , https://edge.launchpad.net/+tour/join-launchpad#commercial  links to an email for getting in touch.
[13:23] <bearnard_> thanks noodles775
[13:24] <bearnard_> anyone have any idea how to enable the backports repo for build dependencies when building via a PPA on launchpad?
[13:25] <noodles775> bearnard_: Click on "Edit PPA dependencies" from your PPA page... there's an option for backports there.
[13:26] <bearnard_> doh! thanks again noodles775
[13:26] <noodles775> np :)
[14:15] <noodles775> abentley: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/
[14:17] <fta> (i'm looking for ideas to make it even more compact)
[14:18] <fta> ..and faster too. it's really too slow (110~160sec spent doing http requests)
[18:57] <fta> which part of the API is used in the /+listing-archive-extra page for the "Builds" part?  it's not getBuildSummariesForSourceIds() apparently
[20:06] <shadeslayer> hi how long does it take for a package to disappear completely from a ppa?
[20:07] <shadeslayer> along with sources and everything
[20:08] <maxb> From the indices? or from disk entirely?
[20:08] <maxb> It should be gone from the indices within one publishing cycle, which I think is 5-10 minutes
[20:09] <shadeslayer> maxb: disks entirely,i can still see the source on ppa.launchpad.net
[20:09] <maxb> I'm not sure about that - but on the other hand, it shouldn't really matter
[20:10] <shadeslayer> maxb: actually it does,i have to upload a new tarball,but with the same name
[20:10] <maxb> You can't do that. Ever.
[20:11] <shadeslayer> maxb: :(
[20:11] <maxb> This is a good thing. It would be nastily confusing if you could.
[20:12] <maxb> Launchpad does the right thing to prohibit reusing version numbers
[21:27] <rm200910> hello. can i use launchpad to branch a project hosted elsewhere? for example sourceforge
[21:33] <beuno> rm200910, I don't follow
[21:33] <beuno> what do you mean "branch a project"?
[21:36] <rm200910> hi. i mean the project is hosted in sourceforge (CVS) and I'd like to host a branch (in bzr) of the project under ~rm200910
[21:54] <maxb> rm200910: You can register a project record in Launchpad (if one does not already exist) and then register a VCS import.
[21:58] <rm200910> thanks maxb
[22:39] <andreserl> hi all, is there a PPA for python-launchpadlib?