[02:16] <cjohnston> czajkowski at a pub? never would have guessed.. ;-)
[02:25] <Pendulum> cjohnston: I suspect she's not anymore
[06:28] <ara> morning!
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <czajkowski> aloha folks
[08:05] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[08:05] <czajkowski> dholbach: all better?
[08:05] <dholbach> yeah, all good - thanks :)
[08:05] <dholbach> how are you doing?
[08:06] <czajkowski> good, need to drop car in for service in a wee bit then out to meetings.
[09:25] <popey> morning all!
[09:40] <dholbach> hey popey
[09:51] <dholbach> hola randa_
[09:54] <randa_> hi dholbach
[10:30] <czajkowski> whoo tis Friday and the sun is out :D
[15:08] <qense> good afternoon
[15:48] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:50] <jono> hey dholbach :)
[15:53] <czajkowski> jono: my dear you free for a quick (I promise) 3 min pm ?
[15:54] <jono> czajkowski, sure
[15:54] <czajkowski> lovely
[15:56] <jono> dholbach, call in 5
[15:56] <jono> ?
[15:56] <dholbach> jono: yep
[15:56] <jono> dholbach, sweet :)
[15:57] <qense> dholbach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Igxexgjh8 Ha!
[15:58] <dholbach> qense: I'll have a look later on
[15:58] <qense> dholbach: Only if you have some spare time! It's nothing serious. ;)
[16:03] <jono> dholbach, sorry net went down
[16:03] <jono> give me two mins
[16:03] <dholbach> jono: sure
[16:04] <Technoviking> jcastro: Have you tried Cloud Services Notifications? Now my Google Reader shows up in my indictor menu
[16:07] <jono> dholbach, alright, mumble?
[16:07] <dholbach> jono: go go go
[16:26] <qense> urrgh. Our LoCo really is a mess. All kind of people making up fancy bureaucratic structures that make them feel they are someone, but that don't do anything useful. Every subteam and council has its own board and would rather want it to be closed for public viewing. Most of it already is, but now the 'Community Council' suddenly doesn't want Ubuntu NL team members to read their board.
[16:28] <qense> We're getting all kind of closed entities, the founders of the 'Community Council' think we need a community council because otherwise the Ubuntu NL team won't listen to the community and you can hardly participate if no one inside the team proposes to give you access to the closed boards.
[16:33] <qense> Ubuntu NL is mostly a forum.
[16:34] <qense> So unfortunately we only really attract people that like to watch forum discussions all day.
[16:35] <czajkowski> qense: ugh
[16:35] <qense> czajkowski: People think they're fancy with their fancy titles and subteams, but we do very little productive.
[16:36] <popey> :(
[16:36] <czajkowski> qense: do ye need a hand ?
[16:36] <janc_lgm> qense: saying it's mostly a forum is somewhat of an exaggeration, the actually active people do good work
[16:37] <qense> janc_lgm: But they're not really visible. If you don't look good enough everything seems very lethargic.
[16:37] <janc_lgm> maybe because they aren't on the forum so much
[16:37] <nigelb> czajkowski: I got a question related to the loco stuff
[16:37] <czajkowski> fire ahead
[16:37] <qense> janc_lgm: and that's the problem because for most people the Ubuntu NL community is the forums and nothing more
[16:38] <qense> czajkowski: Tomorrow is our national release party, that's a good place to shake things up a little. ;)
[16:38] <janc_lgm> and most of the forum people don't do so much
[16:38] <nigelb> so, indian loco isn't *very* active (except for the m/l, which is *very* active).  I'm planning a few small events in my city.  doesn that gives us a + points at reapproval?
[16:38] <qense> czajkowski: But thanks for your offer. I'll call you when people start screaming and such.
[16:38] <nigelb> we are too big, so its difficult to have events all over.
[16:39] <czajkowski> qense: how about asking before it gets to the screaming bit :) I like less drama
[16:39] <qense> czajkowski: Don't you like conflict resolution? :D
[16:39] <czajkowski> nigelb: sure, but why not have events all over
[16:39] <czajkowski> qense: I di indeed
[16:39] <qense> nigelb: Is there one LoCo for the whole of India? :O
[16:40] <qense> nigelb: You could follow the US model: they've got a national LoCo that mostly does support for local LoCos and the LoCos most people deal with are per state or per very-large-city
[16:40] <nigelb> czajkowski: I personally am not good at organizing, but I don't want the loco to die out
[16:40] <nigelb> qense: we have a serious lack of volunteers for a country this size
[16:40] <nigelb> when it comes to comitting to do stuff, I see very few folks
[16:41] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[16:41] <dholbach> have a great weekend everyone
[16:41]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:41] <nigelb> svaksha has been pushing me to do something for sometime and I think I found a good venue
[16:41] <qense> nigelb: You've got 1 billion people and on top of that Tamil Nadu seems very pro-Ubuntu, so there must be some people that can do something.
[16:41] <nigelb> dholbach: good night :)
[16:41] <qense> dholbach: have a nice weekend!
[16:41] <dholbach> bye!
[16:41] <nigelb> qense: well, we don't want to travel cross country for a meet.  I certainly dont have the time.
[16:42] <qense> nigelb: India is pretty big indeed. You could just start a more local LoCo.
[16:42] <nigelb> I was just planning small monthly meet ups with talks and folks helping fix whats broken etc
[16:42] <qense> That seems like a good way to start to me.
[16:43] <czajkowski> nigelb: what we do here is have an ubuntu hour
[16:43] <nigelb> there is a GSoC meet tomorrow.  Their venue is very interesting, perhaps I'm thinking of having ubuntu meetups there
[16:43] <czajkowski> and now they are taking off in different places
[16:43] <nigelb> czajkowski: similar to what i'm planning.  an hour of talks and hacking
[16:43] <czajkowski> nigelb: but they are not different locos
[16:44] <nigelb> czajkowski: what I wanted to know was if a city event would still be counted for the ubuntu-in loco.  I really want it to pass approval :)
[16:46] <janc_lgm> nigelb: why wouldn't it count?
[16:46]  * nigelb wasn't sure if just one city having events was going to help
[16:47] <czajkowski> nigelb: we hold a lot in dublin but not all
[16:47] <popey> if you're in the loco team and you organise an event, its a loco team event in my book
[16:48] <nigelb> popey: that's what I wnated to know. ty :)
[16:48] <popey> unless for some reason you'd been kicked out of the loco, or actively told not to organise an event, cant imagine that though
[16:49] <nigelb> um, the loco contact was like 'we're looking for someone new to take over from us'
[16:53] <nigelb> qense: you are't in -reviews anymore?
[16:54] <qense> nigelb: Have I ever been?
[16:54] <qense> dinner time, afk
[16:55] <nigelb> qense: I remember talking to you about mermingus there
[17:22] <qense> nigelb: Ah, the IRC channel.
[17:22] <qense> nigelb: Removed it from the list when I wanted to clean up the large list of IRC channels I'm in.
[17:33] <qense> jono: Maybe you should change the title of <https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-global-menu> as well; it still says 'Global menu'.
[17:34] <jono> qense, yeah, I will later
[17:34] <qense> ok
[17:42] <bencrisford> nigelb: a patch needs reviewing on a bug assigned to me :)!  This could be a sign, that its time to start reviewing!
[17:42] <nigelb> bencrisford: hehe, definitely
[17:42] <bencrisford> I remember being inspired by your OW session :D
[17:44]  * nigelb was inspiring o.O
[17:44] <nigelb> good to know :D
[17:44] <bencrisford> lol :P
[17:48] <akgraner> randa_, hey!
[17:48] <randa_> hi akgraner
[18:21] <nigelb> qense: poke
[18:21] <qense> nigelb: yes?
[18:22] <nigelb> qense: how familiar are you with subprocess.Open?
[18:22] <qense> nigelb: Not at all
[18:22] <nigelb> :(
[18:22] <Technoviking> heading out to a couple National Parks for the long weekend, catch you all later
[18:23] <nigelb> Technoviking: have fun :)
[18:38] <jono> akgraner, around?
[18:39] <akgraner> jono, yeppers
[18:39] <akgraner> what's up?
[18:41] <jono> akgraner, ok, to be clear, put all the names in a hat, pick one out at random
[18:41] <jono> and thats all?
[18:41] <jono> want me to read the other winners out?
[18:41] <akgraner> yes please
[18:41] <jono> will do
[18:42] <akgraner> draw the name and read the other winners :-)
[18:42] <jono> np
[18:42] <jono> ok heading up to the studio now to get ready
[18:42] <akgraner> jono, thank you so much! I really appreciate all your help on making all this a success!
[18:42] <jono> no worries :)
[18:42] <jono> I really havent done much
[18:42] <jono> hehe
[19:05] <qense> Weekend!
[19:06] <cjohnston> lol
[19:20] <bencrisford> qense: woohoo! :)
[19:27] <akgraner> Woo Hoo Winners Announced for the UW World Play Day Competition - Photo #25 Orla O'Donohue Community winner!, Jane's Pick - Photo #20 Jordan McCarthy!, and jono's pick - Photo #18 - Erika Hamilton
[19:27] <akgraner> thanks to all of you who voted, sent in pictures and helped get the word out on this competition!
[20:19] <doctormo> Pendulum: I have a local advocate who wants to be involved with accessability, where should I send him?
[20:24] <Pendulum> doctormo: #ubuntu-accessibility is the IRC channel (if said person uses IRC)
[20:25] <doctormo> I will point them to the irc via html
[20:27] <Pendulum> mailing list is: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-accessibility
[21:37] <jono> Pendulum, have you started on https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-process-improvements yet?
[21:38] <jono> akgraner, ditto for you ^
[21:39] <jono> and for jussi ^
[21:39] <jono> :)
[21:41] <akgraner> jono yep it's inprogress
[21:42] <Pendulum> jono: if "I started to look at those chapters again" counts, then yes, it's in progress :)
[21:42] <jono> Pendulum, it would be awesome if you could start merging in contact from one of the chapters this week
[21:42] <jono> does that seem doable?
[21:42] <jono> akgraner, thanks
[21:43] <jono> akgraner, for the fridge redev, has the design team committed to producing a wordpress theme?
[21:43] <Pendulum> jono: possibly? I just moved house and I'm having to do an emergency trip this weekend to visit someone in hospital, but I think I should be able to manage something. Do you want me to check with highvoltage and itnet7 as well?
[21:43] <jono> Pendulum, thanks!
[21:43] <jono> don't worry, I will check in with them
[22:07] <AlanBell> doctormo: I have a Ground Control issue http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/Screenshot-Bazaar%20Error.png what have I done wrong?
[22:08] <doctormo> It means that one of your branches has not been upgraded, I currently don't detect of provide any functionality to upgrade them through the GUI so you'll have to drop down to the Command Line to upgrade them
[22:08] <doctormo> Though I would report a bug that I can't detect or perform this action as it's important to clear up every instance where users have to drop to command line to get around a problem.
[22:13] <AlanBell> I pressed the fix bug button to get the branch, then tried to upload the fix
[22:13] <AlanBell> I do have a read only branch from a few weeks ago
[22:15] <AlanBell> ah, is it my bzr area on launchpad that needs upgrading?
[22:42] <jono> akgraner, around?
[22:47] <AlanBell> bug 587051
[22:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 587051 in groundcontrol (Ubuntu) "repository incompatibility error message fixing bug in dasher (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587051