| jkln | greetings, all. | 07:08 |
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| jkln | anyone here use jm2cv? | 07:08 |
| holstein | AH | 07:09 |
| holstein | that on my 'short-list' | 07:09 |
| holstein | BUT not yet | 07:09 |
| holstein | i think pipemanmusic over in #opensourcemusic is way into that | 07:09 |
| holstein | hes not around much though | 07:09 |
| holstein | OH | 07:10 |
| holstein | #opensourcemusicians | 07:10 |
| holstein | *** | 07:10 |
| holstein | oops | 07:10 |
| jkln | u talkin to me hostein? | 07:11 |
| jkln | I'll check it out | 07:11 |
| holstein | jkln: ^^^ | 07:11 |
| jkln | thanks | 07:11 |
| holstein | yeah | 07:11 |
| holstein | areyou using it? | 07:11 |
| holstein | them? | 07:11 |
| holstein | whatever it does | 07:11 |
| jkln | I"m baffled about what command to get it going | 07:11 |
| holstein | hehe | 07:12 |
| holstein | me too | 07:12 |
| jkln | it changes midi into control voltage - for use by non-mixer | 07:12 |
| holstein | ask over there << | 07:12 |
| holstein | in #opensourcemusicians | 07:13 |
| holstein | i think i was thinking about something else | 07:13 |
| holstein | theres a MIDI guy | 07:13 |
| holstein | [lsd] | 07:13 |
| jkln | I'm there... | 07:13 |
| jkln | . | 07:13 |
| holstein | hes always around | 07:13 |
| holstein | hmmm | 07:13 |
| Monona | I just compiled zynaddsubfx from source, but now I don't have the instrument banks. How can I get them? | 08:18 |
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| hairyman | Hi i'm new to this chat und would like to know what you are talking about in this channel ? | 12:35 |
| Pablo1 | not much talk lately | 12:41 |
| hairyman | hi pablo at least a reaction ! | 12:42 |
| hairyman | So you got some time to talk a bit about ubuntustudio ? | 12:42 |
| Pablo1 | I myself am rather new on this channel but why not, I am a US user | 12:43 |
| hairyman | ok i'm a germ user ( german) | 12:44 |
| Pablo1 | I am spanish | 12:44 |
| Pablo1 | I meant ubustustudio user :D | 12:44 |
| hairyman | so what are you doing with ubuntustudio ? | 12:45 |
| hairyman | now i get it US | 12:45 |
| Pablo1 | I play with hydrogen and ardour, mostly | 12:45 |
| Pablo1 | rakarrack and guitarix too | 12:46 |
| hairyman | ok so are you a musician ? | 12:46 |
| Pablo1 | and some other apps. | 12:46 |
| Pablo1 | amateur | 12:47 |
| hairyman | me too . i do play gitarr and base | 12:47 |
| hairyman | sorry bass | 12:47 |
| Pablo1 | But I haven't released anything yet, I am not good at making music alone | 12:47 |
| Pablo1 | ahm | 12:47 |
| Pablo1 | What apps do you use in US? | 12:48 |
| hairyman | i use to play in different formations/bands in holland and germany but in the moment i'm on my own as well | 12:49 |
| Pablo1 | cool | 12:50 |
| hairyman | for recording i used 1rst audacity because i coudn't handle adour jet it quiet tricky to find how to use jackctl | 12:50 |
| Pablo1 | jack is a must, you should learn it, I can help | 12:51 |
| hairyman | what kind of sound system do you use ! jused normal soundcard , like me , or do you use some of this multicgannel cards ? | 12:52 |
| Pablo1 | I have a m-audio audiophile 2496 | 12:53 |
| Pablo1 | it is only 2 cahnnels in and 2 channles out | 12:53 |
| Pablo1 | but yes, it is a very good one | 12:53 |
| Pablo1 | (PCI) | 12:53 |
| hairyman | talright same tro me exept i can use to different mico channels and an line-in , all stereo | 12:54 |
| Pablo1 | ahm | 12:54 |
| Pablo1 | is it onboard? | 12:54 |
| hairyman | doyou got any experience with latency settings ? | 12:54 |
| Pablo1 | yes | 12:55 |
| hairyman | yes it's onboard | 12:55 |
| Pablo1 | but then, you need jack if you want low latency | 12:55 |
| hairyman | ya , i already used jack and got it running with rackarack and calf flanger calfchorus hydrogen and jamin and audacity but i'm yet not really happy of it behavior ! | 12:57 |
| Pablo1 | jack setup? | 12:58 |
| Pablo1 | have you enabled realtime option? | 12:59 |
| hairyman | yes while installing the system i decided to use a low latency sytem and i brought the latency down to approx. 5 ms that works fine, but i'm not so happy with the funktioning of audacity , because i only can here my instrument | 13:01 |
| hairyman | while in recordmode | 13:02 |
| Pablo1 | audacity is not very jack-firendly | 13:02 |
| Pablo1 | thereis this trick | 13:02 |
| Pablo1 | press record, then press pause | 13:02 |
| Pablo1 | check/make connections | 13:03 |
| Pablo1 | Anyway, Audacity is an editor, not a DAW | 13:04 |
| hairyman | i did , but after recoding a session you go into playbackmode , that will change all the settings in jackctl ! so i must reroute the audacity connections | 13:04 |
| Pablo1 | I suggest ardour, qtractor or traverso for a simple multitrack recording | 13:05 |
| Pablo1 | Audacity is not a fine tool for making recordings | 13:05 |
| hairyman | do you know where i can get a usermanual/descreption for adour ? | 13:06 |
| Pablo1 | http://en.flossmanuals.net/ardour/ | 13:07 |
| hairyman | thanks mate ! | 13:07 |
| Pablo1 | You will need. options->monitorin->ardour does monitoring | 13:07 |
| hairyman | one second please | 13:08 |
| Pablo1 | and if mute button doesn't work right click on it | 13:08 |
| Pablo1 | and enable the four options | 13:08 |
| hairyman | first you start jackctl ? right ? | 13:09 |
| Pablo1 | yes | 13:09 |
| hairyman | so please give me a second because i use 2 different monitors i would like to have a look if it is ok with you and your time | 13:10 |
| Pablo1 | OK, I have to go, but I have 10 minutes | 13:10 |
| hairyman | ok juist 1 min. | 13:11 |
| hairyman | so after starting it asked for driver interface etc and size of buffer , set to 1024 and if i remember right that means a latency above 10 ms ẞ | 13:13 |
| Pablo1 | OK | 13:14 |
| Pablo1 | does it start OK? | 13:14 |
| hairyman | it started with a message info and one error | 13:15 |
| Pablo1 | what error | 13:16 |
| hairyman | ardour's audio engine is not connected and state saving would lose all I/O connections . Session not saved | 13:17 |
| Pablo1 | :( | 13:17 |
| Pablo1 | ardour is disconnected from jack | 13:18 |
| Pablo1 | are you receiving xruns in qjackctl? | 13:19 |
| Pablo1 | even if ardour is closed? | 13:20 |
| Pablo1 | (red numbers) | 13:20 |
| hairyman | ok listen ! to mutch stress for right now , because my son came home . I have to do some ckooking ! I gonna read the link you tolled me and maybe i'll can talk to you somehow later ? | 13:21 |
| Pablo1 | I will be here later. | 13:22 |
| hairyman | ok see you later alligator | 13:23 |
| Pablo1 | :D | 13:23 |
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| ManDay | I've been told that people here can tell me about JACK, ALSA and the equalizer? | 17:58 |
| holstein | hey na | 17:59 |
| holstein | ManDay: ^^^ | 17:59 |
| holstein | what do you need to know? | 17:59 |
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| ManDay | holstein, na is no? Well not a lot, basically I'm interested in being told how difficult it would be (and how chances are that all works flawlessly) to set that combi up on a ubuntu 10.4 so I can equalize arbitrary audio | 18:02 |
| holstein | ManDay: na= oops | 18:02 |
| ManDay | i don't follow you there but go ahead :) | 18:03 |
| holstein | a typo | 18:03 |
| holstein | i F'd up | 18:03 |
| ManDay | oops = a type? | 18:03 |
| ManDay | o, even | 18:03 |
| ManDay | ok nevermind | 18:03 |
| holstein | an error :) | 18:03 |
| ManDay | why dont we concentrate on the actual thing :D | 18:03 |
| holstein | yup | 18:03 |
| holstein | agreed | 18:03 |
| ManDay | I've also been told that ubuntustudio ships with this kind of setup - can I thus assume that no one here had to set it up manually? | 18:04 |
| holstein | you want to add equalization to audio? | 18:04 |
| holstein | pre-recorded? | 18:04 |
| holstein | or live? | 18:04 |
| ManDay | holstein, say I listen to a lot music from flash-plugin (rap1pulsif.com) and I'd like to equalize that because the bassline really annoys me | 18:04 |
| ManDay | erm | 18:05 |
| ManDay | holstein, say I listen to a lot music from flash-plugin (rap1pulsif.com) and I'd like to equalize that because the bassline really annoys me | 18:05 |
| holstein | hmmm | 18:05 |
| holstein | why dont you just use the hardware on the outside? | 18:05 |
| holstein | what do you run your computer into? | 18:05 |
| ManDay | It's a very easy 2.1 speaker setup with no knobs whatsoever | 18:05 |
| ManDay | volume thats all | 18:06 |
| holstein | well, theres my suggestion | 18:06 |
| holstein | go get a better rig | 18:06 |
| holstein | with EQ | 18:06 |
| ManDay | haha | 18:06 |
| ManDay | no | 18:06 |
| holstein | it will sound better all around | 18:06 |
| ManDay | Ok man but it's not worth my money - im not a audio spec as you are | 18:06 |
| holstein | i think you should look into an EQ a the player | 18:06 |
| ManDay | im just listeing to music and the quality is quite good | 18:06 |
| ManDay | holstein, its a flash applet! | 18:06 |
| ManDay | I think JACK is my best option :) | 18:07 |
| holstein | is there a streaming link? | 18:07 |
| holstein | nah | 18:07 |
| holstein | you dont need JACK | 18:07 |
| holstein | you'd need to get pulse running with JACK | 18:07 |
| holstein | quite a pain in the ass | 18:07 |
| holstein | JACK doesnt care about flash | 18:07 |
| ManDay | holstein, please correct me if im wrong but isn't jack the only known (simple) way to equalize arbitrary sound? | 18:07 |
| holstein | and flash is unaware of JACK | 18:08 |
| holstein | NO | 18:08 |
| ManDay | holstein, flash streams to whatever flash streams to | 18:08 |
| holstein | JACK itself just routes audio | 18:08 |
| ManDay | its going through pulse/alsa after all | 18:08 |
| ManDay | holstein, right, if needed i can route pulse into jack and then jack to alsa | 18:08 |
| holstein | ManDay: for example | 18:08 |
| holstein | when i run JACK | 18:08 |
| holstein | pulse is suspended | 18:08 |
| holstein | SO | 18:08 |
| holstein | only pro-audio apps are using the sound server | 18:09 |
| ManDay | ok many what do you suggest how to equalize arbitrary audio (such as flash) ? | 18:09 |
| holstein | running pulse into JACK is only recently being looked at | 18:09 |
| holstein | with decent success | 18:09 |
| holstein | STILL | 18:09 |
| holstein | for your purposes | 18:10 |
| holstein | it WAY overkill | 18:10 |
| ManDay | NO new rig! | 18:10 |
| ManDay | THAT would be overkill :P | 18:10 |
| holstein | you say tomato.... | 18:10 |
| ManDay | If I would not take JACK for anything but rerouting through the equalizer calling it an overkill is relative, he? | 18:10 |
| ManDay | i say tomato? | 18:10 |
| holstein | NM | 18:10 |
| holstein | go for it | 18:10 |
| ManDay | you speak in riddles | 18:10 |
| ManDay | well id appreciate any simpler solution | 18:11 |
| holstein | you'll need to read about the pulse audio-jack bridge | 18:11 |
| ManDay | but you have yet to name one :D | 18:11 |
| holstein | yeah | 18:11 |
| holstein | i dont use flash unless i have to | 18:11 |
| holstein | and i use JACK for pro audio | 18:11 |
| holstein | so im thinking | 18:11 |
| holstein | there should be a pulse solution | 18:11 |
| holstein | an EQ | 18:12 |
| holstein | for the pulse server | 18:12 |
| ManDay | none that id know of. pulse is quite limited | 18:12 |
| ManDay | its like gedit compared to say... eclipse | 18:12 |
| ManDay | can do basic things but then | 18:12 |
| ManDay | unless im missing some fancy config in the bg | 18:12 |
| ManDay | which might be | 18:12 |
| ManDay | oh wait | 18:13 |
| ManDay | google is my friend | 18:13 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation | 18:13 |
| holstein | read this | 18:13 |
| holstein | and let me check around for a pulse EQ | 18:13 |
| rlameiro | holstein: what is to equalize? | 18:14 |
| rlameiro | is a file? or realtime? | 18:14 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 | 18:14 |
| ManDay | realtime of course. | 18:14 |
| ManDay | holstein, found that too | 18:14 |
| holstein | rlameiro: realtime from a flash applet :) | 18:15 |
| ManDay | im going to ask #ubuntu about it | 18:15 |
| holstein | F flash, i say | 18:15 |
| ManDay | holstein, ... | 18:15 |
| ManDay | it's not like i had an option | 18:15 |
| holstein | what is the applet? | 18:15 |
| holstein | i use a sockso server sometimes | 18:16 |
| ManDay | a music player | 18:16 |
| holstein | http://sockso.pu-gh.com/ | 18:16 |
| holstein | pretty cool little pop-out music plaer | 18:17 |
| holstein | player | 18:17 |
| holstein | ManDay: i like this one | 18:20 |
| holstein | http://exploreubuntu.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/equalizer-for-pulse-audio/ | 18:20 |
| holstein | that looks too easy | 18:20 |
| holstein | assuming that PPA is still around | 18:21 |
| holstein | and can be used in lucid | 18:21 |
| ManDay | looks promising indeed | 18:21 |
| ManDay | ill harass #ubuntu until someone replies :) | 18:21 |
| ManDay | ill check out the PPA | 18:21 |
| holstein | ManDay: you could try #ubuntu-beginners | 18:22 |
| holstein | not that your a beginner ;P | 18:22 |
| holstein | its just less busy | 18:22 |
| ManDay | what a nifty trick, lol | 18:22 |
| ManDay | its like driving in the right lane and taking over everyone because everyone wants to be fast in the left one | 18:23 |
| holstein | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ | 18:23 |
| holstein | and if your loco team is active | 18:23 |
| ManDay | looks nice | 18:25 |
| ManDay | installing :) | 18:25 |
| ManDay | hell! | 18:27 |
| ManDay | it works like a charm | 18:27 |
| ManDay | now THAT was easy | 18:27 |
| ManDay | thanks a million holstein | 18:27 |
| ManDay | pretty amazing | 18:28 |
| holstein | ManDay: :) | 18:30 |
| holstein | i knew we'd find the right solution for you | 18:30 |
| ManDay | yep, i would have gone through all the hassle of getting jack right. cheers! | 18:34 |
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