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iammhi everyone, people in #ubuntu were busy, is there someone here could help me sort some problems in installing wifi driver... its been 3 days and i'm getting crazy..05:03
iammi'm activating Broadcom STA driver from the hardware drivers list05:04
iammbut gives me error, 'Sorry, installation of this driver failed, please.... details: /var/log/jockey.log05:04
iammhttp://pastebin.com/AJ4cNQNG05:04
iammi uninstalled the other B43 wireless or the kernel-source and try to activate the STA05:05
iammits quite a pain that xubuntu lucid iso doesn't come w/ the bcmwl-kernel-source, b43-fwcutter, and some others to get my BCM4312 working...05:07
iammi just have to download ubuntu lucid iso to get it from there...05:08
iamm:/05:08
ruieniamm: hmm, which kernel are you running?05:08
iammum, where could i check that, i'm still starting to use linux..05:09
ruienuse "uname -a"05:09
ruienyour output log is saying something like "what you're trying to install was not built for the kernel you are using".. and you really should be using 2.6.32-22-generic05:10
ruienin other words, simply open a terminal (right-click desktop, "Open Terminal Here") and then type "uname -a"05:11
iammLinux jacuzzi-star 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP05:11
iammthen the date time UTC i686 GNU/Linux05:12
ruienyeah, i recommend you upgrade the kernel to 2.6.32-22. Normally kernel upgrades aren't necessary but in this case your error message is specifically mentioning it05:12
iammmmm how would i be able to upgrade... w/ no wifi...05:13
iammi've got ubuntu and xubuntu lucid ISOs05:13
ruienoh, you're not on a landline right now. so you have two computers?05:13
iammyes i'm using my cousin's05:13
iammwired wasn't also working trying to get help in #ubuntu but one helping me got out of options..05:14
iammbecause even ethtool wasn't present05:14
ruiengenerally every package on ubuntu is available as a .deb, I think, which is a file you could put on a usb stick and copy-paste to your ubuntu install.05:15
ruieni've never done that for a kernel upgrade and kernel source, though..hmm05:15
iammyes, but he said that should be out of package already... inbuilt i guess..05:15
ruienyou can't just connect the laptop to wired internet temporarily and run the appropriate apt-get commands?05:16
iammshould i again... re-install xubuntu lucid... its taking me days already... :((05:16
ruieni thought you already have xubuntu-lucid installed.. how would a re-install help?05:17
iammbecause maybe i thought i've messed up some things already, a fresh probably... could helpp05:17
ruiennah, no need. linux is smart05:17
iammwe've run the wired yesterday, but it just reads then nothing happens05:18
ruienyou mean you're not even getting internet with a wired connection?05:18
iammthe network icon at the top, spins like reading, then returns to its orig icon... then that's it... still disconnected...05:18
iammyes05:18
ruienthat's odd. wired networks almost *always* work out of the box on ubuntu. I'm assuming you're connecting to a router, right?05:19
iammyes.. from a router..05:19
ruienwhat type of network card are you using for the wired connection?05:20
iammRTL8101E / RTL8012E05:21
ruieni really think that should be working out of the box. It didn't even work on a fresh install? Is your router doing normal DHCP?05:23
ElTimohey, i tried to install xubuntu on top of a kubuntu install using the xubuntu-desktop package, but now i can't log in. all i get when gdm tries to load is a grey screen and no mouse pointer05:25
ruien"ifconfig" gives you general information on your network card config. It should be listing your wired network adapater as eth0, and it should have some basic info05:25
ElTimoif anyone has any ideas some help would be nice05:27
ruienElTimo: i'm not sure, but it sounds like the computer is failing to locate the window manager. Do you get a window manager if you try to load xfce directly from the commandline with "xfce4-session"?05:27
ElTimoruien: it's actually failing to load the login manager itself. all i get is a blank grey screen that fades in from black, rather like gdm does05:27
ElTimobut startx works fine05:29
ElTimoi'd just rather not have to hit ctrl+alt+f1, log in, then type startx and then finally be able to use my computer05:29
ruienhow does startx know to load xfce instead of kde now that you have both installed?05:29
ElTimoi uninstalled kde.05:29
iammruien: http://pastebin.com/gSFwwn2k05:30
ruienah, okay. could you just do something like putting "su <your user> -c startx" in your /etc/rc.local?05:31
ruienwhich basically just runs the startx command (as you, not as root) when the computer boots (since rc.local is run on boot)05:31
ruieniamm: looking05:32
ElTimoessentially, but i just feel like it's cleaner to do it the normal way05:32
ruienagreed; it would be. Personally i don't know enough about window managers to fix it the right way05:33
ruieni just installed xubuntu directly and obviously that works out of the box :)05:33
ElTimoof course05:34
ElTimofsck it. i'm going back to lubuntu until i can fix this lol05:34
ruiengood luck05:34
ElTimothanks, and thanks for trying to help05:34
ruiensure05:34
ruieniamm: maybe i am missing something, but it looks like your eth0 wired adapter is getting a IPv6 address but no IPv4 address.05:35
ruienother computers are connected behind this router without issue, right?05:35
iammshould it be IPv4 not the 6?05:35
ruienyeah, definitely05:35
iammyes.. all windows05:35
iamm^^05:35
iammshould it be the driver too?05:36
ruienwell, it's hard to say. I am using a similar network adapter, and it's working out of the box. You *should* have a line that looks like: inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.005:37
iammbtw i'm running the xubuntu side by side with windows.. if that helps :/05:37
ruienerr, 192.168.0.205:37
iammi see05:37
ruienas a VM, or dual-boot?05:37
iammdual boot on one physical HD and divided by partitions..05:38
ruienit won't affect it then. anyway i gotta take off for lunch, be back later, sorry.. :-/05:38
iammalright05:39
Christos``anyone here i need some help05:47
Christos``join #ubuntu-irc-helpers05:49
ruienAnyway, my turn.. I have one hard drive, sda, with sda1 and then sda2 holding logical partitions {sda5, sda6, sda7, and sda8}. My xubuntu installation is on sda1 as it is my main OS. I have a ghost image from a previous solely-windows-xp install that I have imaged onto sda7. Grub2 finds the install, but it does not boot. Does this method have any hope?05:53
ruienwb iamm05:57
iamm:) thx05:58
ruieni meant to ask, with no internet connection, how were you installing the bcmwl-kernel-source module anyway?05:58
iammi've downloaded it06:00
ruienthe .deb?06:00
iammfrom the ubuntu package site06:00
iammyes06:00
ruienohh.. that's the problem. I see now06:00
ruienyou know about dependencies right?06:00
iammyes...06:00
iammgetting familiar with it06:00
iammthough i've did it one by one .. those06:01
iammwhen it ran error because it needed some files06:01
ruieni think you missed some06:01
iammthen download some again06:01
iammi see..06:01
ruienright. I think you need the kernel-sources.. let me see if I can find the package06:01
iammi've ran through this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=06c6ee239e7c9752ace5ce73bbaa0805&t=1368699 though its for karmic, i saw for lucid and saw the same package version i've downloaded before06:05
ruienlooking...06:05
iammmy case applied for liveusb offline, but the xubuntu iso don't have dkms06:05
iammonly dkpg06:05
iammand also, b43 and STA needs to be installed both isn't it? or only one..06:07
ruieni'm not sure, because when I installed my wireless driver I only did "apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source", had no errors, and it worked. It did have to download dependencies though, and I had an internet connection so it found everything.06:07
iammso i've got both dkpg and dkms installed... gee i'm getting cloudy...06:08
ruienright06:09
iammwould you walk me through getting the wired working... i guess its the easiest way..06:09
ruienyeah. Basically, i think you just need to configure the adapter manually, because it's likely the drivers are there06:10
ruieni'm looking up info on that now06:11
ruienwhat error do you get if you try to ping 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.1.106:13
ruienno route to host?06:13
ElTimookay, i think xubuntu SERIOUSLY needs more work06:14
ElTimoor at least attention to detail06:14
Sysilike what?06:15
ruieniamm: try something like ifconfig etho 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.006:15
ElTimoneither the default gdm theme nor the default settings are installed with the metapackage, and even when they are installed, the settings aren't honored AT ALL06:16
iammokay06:16
ElTimoi have NEVER needed a cigarette when dealing with an ubuntu-based operating system06:16
raevolhey all, i am looking at the XScreensaver app-defaults file, has xubuntu considered modifying this to make it prettier?06:16
ElTimoand i damn near just threw my laptop across the room06:16
iammruien, should i be actively connected to the wired while doing so?06:17
bazhangElTimo, please calm down06:17
ruienyes.06:17
ruienconnect to the wired, restart the machine.06:17
ruienthen give me a printout of `ifconfig`06:17
ElTimosorry, i'm just appalled that there is so little care taken in an LTS release06:18
iammokay brb in a moment06:18
bazhangElTimo, you have not said what the issues or errors are; you won't get any help in your current mode.06:18
DatzHi, is there any difference between Ubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu-server besides desktop environment?06:19
bazhang!details | ElTimo06:19
ubottuElTimo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:19
Datzwell, I supposed -server has no envi06:19
SysiDatz: no06:19
ruienDatz: nope06:19
Datzok, thanks06:19
bazhangDatz, they are cli06:19
ElTimoalright, bazhang i was in here earlier. and if you'd care to read the scrollback, i did mention what my problem was06:19
Datzwhy do I get different numbers of modules with lsmod on these different installs?06:19
ElTimoso before you pull out your prepackaged responses on me, pay some attention06:20
bazhangElTimo, please lose the attitude06:20
ElTimoyou first.06:20
ElTimodon't bother to kick me, i'll leave06:20
ruienbazhang, i can only second ElTimo in this case06:20
Sysii can't06:21
Sysilet's not make flamewar06:21
ElTimoi'm not trying for that06:21
Datzare default config for packages different for Ubuntu/xubuntu?06:21
ElTimoDatz, yes, that's actually the reason i'm having so many problems lol06:21
Sysiyou have two separate installs in same machine? (why)06:22
Datzah06:22
ruienDatz: yes. What problem are you trying to solve; maybe we can recommend one of them?06:23
SysiElTimo: i think gdm default settings are taken to use when you install xubuntu-artwork and xubuntu-gdm-theme06:24
ElTimobut not with ubuntu-*?06:24
Sysiidk about that06:24
Sysithat' #ubuntu problem then :)06:24
Datzruien: no problem, going to move from xubuntu to ubuntu server if resource use in general is the same. I remember someone complaining about apache2 taking up too much ram with -server, they having 320MB RAM.. this machine I want to install is old P3 with 256MB RAM.. wondering if xubuntu is lighter resource wise discounting GUI06:25
ElTimoyeah good point :P06:25
* ElTimo is currently in his 4th attempt at getting xubuntu to install properly ><06:26
ruienDatz: ubuntu-server will be MUCH lighter than xubuntu with xfce loaded and such.06:26
Datzxubuntu with gdm stopped seems very light06:26
Datzruien: that's why I say minus GUI06:27
Sysianything is pretty light without grapics06:27
iammruien, quite laborous.. error goes something, permission denied, eth0: error while getting interface flags: No such device06:27
ElTimoruien, wouldn't ubuntu server have a bunch of server apps running in the background?06:27
Datzwell, I have only 256MB ram06:27
ruienElTimo: not really.. I installed a machine from ubuntu-server and it was very barebones06:28
Sysiwith alternate disk you can make barebone cli installation also06:28
ruieniamm: when you type "ifconfig", you get no output except for the error?06:29
iammruien, for only 'ifconfig' it lists eth0 and lo, with 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.0 it gives that error06:30
ruieniamm: right. i want to see the output for "eth0" when you just run ifconfig normally, while the wired network is attached.06:31
iammruien, i think its the same w/ the pastebin i've given earlier, but i'll give the lines in a sec...06:32
ruienokay, i was thinking maybe that pastbin didn't have the wired attached on reboot.06:32
iammruien, http://pastebin.com/jvGHE0dz06:35
iammwired was connected when i restarted06:36
ruienhmm, what happens when you run "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.0" as root?06:37
iammmeans, with 'sudo' ?06:38
iammits the same error as above..06:39
iammdoes ddwrt some issues w/ linux clients?06:39
well_laid_lawnthe router doesn't care what os the comps are running06:40
iamm...okay :/06:40
ruienwell, that's generally true, assuming the router's protocols have been implemented correctly. Is it a respectable brand?06:42
iammlinksys router06:43
iammthis is what i get 3 lines of error http://pastebin.com/qKLn9xCA06:44
well_laid_lawnyou spelt it ehth0 - it is eth006:45
ruieniamm: you typed "ehth0"?06:46
raevolwow why is the image on the unlock screen for screensaver so hard to change...06:47
iammah dang, yes...06:47
raevolstill trying to figure out where it is loaded from06:47
iammruien, no error anymore..06:48
ruieniamm: okay, there shouldn't be any output. Can you pastebin the output from "ifconfig" again?06:48
iammokay one sec06:49
iammhttp://pastebin.com/D46Ah8sQ06:52
ruieniamm: that *looks* normal now.. can you ping google?06:53
iamm'ping google.com', unknown host, checked the icon at the top still disconnected...06:54
ruienokay, i don't know then. I can only direct you over to #ubuntu...06:55
well_laid_lawnrestart the network06:55
well_laid_lawnnow the cards up06:55
iammokay... thanks for the help anyway ruien..06:55
well_laid_lawnsudo service networking restart06:55
iammwell_laid_lawn, okay06:56
iammrestart: unknown instance:06:57
iammerror06:57
ManicMalkavianiamm, sudo /etc/init.d/networkign restart06:59
ManicMalkavianiamm, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart06:59
well_laid_lawnI've just been assuning everyone's on 10.04 lately...07:00
iammManicMalkavian, * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [OK]07:00
ManicMalkaviandoes it work now?07:00
ManicMalkavianping www.google.com -n 407:01
iammManicMalkavian, nope, still disconnected07:02
iammping: unknown host www.google.com07:02
ManicMalkavianping 58.28.4.2 -n 407:03
ruieni think the problem is that I told him how to make the network card listen on, say 192.168.0.105, but that wasn't DHCP-generated, and the card still does not know the default gateway and such07:03
ruienManicMalkavian: ping x.x.x.x -c407:04
ManicMalkavianaaah i see07:04
ruien(i know next to nothing on network adapter manual config)07:05
well_laid_lawnshould try to ping the router07:05
iammall is network unreachable...07:05
iammi'll try to restart the system07:06
well_laid_lawnping -c 3 192.168.1.107:06
well_laid_lawnfor the router07:06
well_laid_lawndo we know if the router is 192.168.0 or 192.168.107:06
ruienwe don't know.07:07
well_laid_lawnit would help - best to just use dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces07:07
ruienoh, wait. he said it was a linksys router07:07
well_laid_lawnnever used one here...07:08
iammum, its still network unreachable07:09
ruienwell on a fresh install of xubuntu, i assumed it would already be attempting to use dhcp automatically.. but that wasn't working (his eth0 had an inet6 addr but no ipv4)07:09
iammi'll do another install anyways... it would take less than hour and hopefully i could have the wired working07:10
iammthanks guys07:10
well_laid_lawnand with the firmware upgrade to the router is ipv4 enabled?07:11
ruiengood luck iamm.. we tried :-/07:11
iammwell_laid_lawn... not sure how that works tho..07:11
well_laid_lawnyou would have to connect with the routers interface to check it...07:12
iammi see.. i'll still have to check it07:12
iammnot much of a networker.. :D07:13
well_laid_lawnI onlt know enough to get myself into trouble and sometimes out :]07:14
well_laid_lawns/onlt/only07:14
well_laid_lawnif another comp can use the router it prob is fine07:14
iammthanks well_laid_lawn.. i'll try to reinstall first xubuntu and see if the wired works07:14
well_laid_lawnk luck07:15
ruieniamm: there is a guy (JHAY) in #ubuntu with exactly the same problem you are seeing07:22
iammthanks ruien07:23
iammSlart is familiar, i think he's one of the guys who helped me yesterday with the wired...07:24
iammeverything goes good just stopped with ethtool07:25
ruienthe guy helping JHAY is "Loshki", so read his responses to jhay and try them yourself07:25
iammjust sharing..07:26
iammthanks07:26
ruienok07:26
AllaneaHey07:59
AllaneaGuys I need urgent help07:59
Allanealike NOW NOW NOW help07:59
ruienuh, what's up?08:01
bazhangAllanea, then ask a question08:01
well_laid_lawnhard to help not knowing the issue08:01
well_laid_lawnclues ^^08:01
bazhangyou are crossposting in #ubuntu as well08:01
bazhang!find chromium08:02
ubottuFound: chromium, chromium-browser, chromium-browser-dbg, chromium-browser-inspector, chromium-browser-l10n (and 9 others)08:02
bazhang!info chromium-browser08:02
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.342.9~r43360-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 11477 kB, installed size 38368 kB08:02
bazhangsudo apt-get install chromium-browser08:02
bazhangno need for firefox on that one08:02
Allaneathanks08:04
Allaneais there any way to uninstall FF after this is done?08:04
bazhangsame helpers in most major channels08:04
bazhangsure08:05
bazhangvia the package manager08:05
Allaneaokay?08:05
iammhi guys i've reinstalled xubuntu but wired still not working, out of the box..08:05
bazhangiamm, what chipset08:05
iammwhere could i possibly see that..08:06
iammnewbie ^^08:06
bazhangiamm, try lspci if its pci, lsusb if its usb08:06
iammi see, lspci chipset for wired?08:07
bazhangshould be yep08:07
Allaneawow this install is slow as fuck out08:07
bazhangjust type lspci08:08
Allaneasorry for the cursing08:08
bazhangAllanea, language please08:08
Allaneahave spent 3 days and 5 empty CDs trying to make the machine work08:08
bazhangiamm, paste.ubuntu.com with the output and give us the url08:08
Allaneawhile also writing my essays on a lappy08:08
Allanea:)08:08
Allaneaa VISTA lappy08:08
bazhangAllanea, recent machine08:08
Allanea2 years old08:09
bazhangtry unetbootin then boot from usb flash stick08:09
bazhangno need for CD08:09
iammhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/440728/08:11
bazhangreading now iamm08:11
Allaneawell the browser is working08:11
bazhangiamm, what does ifconfig show?08:12
iammhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/440730/08:15
bazhangiamm, that looks good08:15
bazhangiamm, now in terminal try sudo dhclient eth0 followed by your user password08:16
bazhangiamm, I had that same chipset in previous computer, so certainly works08:18
well_laid_lawnbazhang: sorry to interrupt but there used to be a botlink for intel hd sound fix but I can't for the life of me find it - is it still there?08:22
bazhang!hdaintel08:23
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto08:23
bazhangwell_laid_lawn, that?08:23
well_laid_lawnbazhang: thnx :]08:23
iammhmmn when installing, should the wired be connected? because i didn't....08:24
iammhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/440737/08:24
bazhangiamm, is the ethernet cable plugged in now?08:25
iammyes when i performed the the dhclient08:25
bazhangthat's odd08:26
iammwhen i plugged in the cable, the network icon reads but gets back to disconnected08:27
bazhangthe network manager applet?08:28
iammyess at the top..08:28
bazhangwas it still trying to connect when you did that?08:29
bazhangsudo dhclient eth0 ?08:29
iammnope.. just either when i re-plug the cable or select the auto eth0 option on the icon08:30
bazhangiamm, ok. lets leave that applet alone.08:32
iammi'm thinking of fixing the wireless first, but i don't know which of which on the guides i've been through with google08:32
bazhangiamm, dual boot?08:32
iammyes, side by side w/ windows xp08:33
bazhang02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) that's your wireless08:33
bazhangvery well supported in Ubuntu08:33
iammhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=06c6ee239e7c9752ace5ce73bbaa0805&t=1368699&page=208:34
iammcould i follow that guide08:34
iamminstead of karmic though, i'll download the lucid ones..08:34
bazhangiamm, I seem to recall windows likes to shut down certain wireless devices unless otherwise told08:34
bazhangwhat does sudo ifup wlan0 return08:35
iammi'm now disconnecting the wired...08:36
bazhangiamm, taking a break for the night?08:37
iammnot sure what that means... lolz...08:37
bazhangiamm, you said you are disconnecting the ethernet cable08:38
iammheheh got error: ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. ignoring unknown interface return=return08:38
bazhangno need to disconnect the ethernet for that command btw08:39
bazhangiamm, reconnect the ethernet cable and don't use the network manager applet , but instead run the command sudo dhclient eth0  once more08:40
iammthe same err :(08:45
Arch_NMEhi09:01
Arch_NMEanyone around?09:01
bazhanghi09:01
Arch_NMEhello baxhang09:02
Arch_NMEI'm having trouble getting xubuntu to install on my toughbook cf-2909:02
bazhangrecent notebook? what errors09:02
Arch_NMEwell, actually I finally got it installed but now it freezes on boot09:02
Arch_NMEit's not recent09:02
bazhangusing the live or the alternate09:03
Arch_NMEpentium M 1.4 768 ram09:03
Arch_NMEusing alternate09:03
Arch_NMEthe live would not work09:03
Arch_NMEgot all the way through install on alternate though09:03
bazhangtried any bootoptions?09:03
Arch_NMEhow do I access that?09:03
bazhang!bootoptions09:03
ubottuFor a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions09:03
bazhangdoes it get to the login screen?09:04
Arch_NMEno09:04
Arch_NMEit briefly shows the xubuntu logo then goes blank09:05
Arch_NMEthis is booting off the HDD09:06
Arch_NMEwhich I just installed xbuntu to off the alt disk09:06
bazhangwhat about in recovery mode09:07
Arch_NMEhow do I access that?09:07
bazhanghold shift at boot09:07
Arch_NMEthat got me grub09:08
bazhangthis a dual boot?09:08
Arch_NMEno09:08
Arch_NMEI choose recovery mode09:08
bazhangyep09:08
Arch_NMEnow I have recovery menu09:09
bazhangseveral choices, correct?09:09
Arch_NMEoptions are clean dpkg failsafex grub netroot root09:09
bazhangI'd try failsafe09:10
Arch_NMEit said now runnign in low graphics mode09:10
Arch_NMEwhat would oyu like to do09:10
bazhangwhat video card09:10
Arch_NMEI think this uses intel grphics09:11
bazhanglucid 10.04?09:11
Arch_NMEIntel 915GMS Graphic09:12
bazhangcheck lspci in terminal to be certain09:12
bazhangokay09:12
Arch_NMEyeah this is with 10.409:12
Arch_NMEso run for one session09:12
Arch_NMEpr reconfigure graphics09:12
Arch_NMEpr = or09:12
bazhangsounds like that's not the issue then09:12
bazhangyou could certainly try though, no harm09:13
Arch_NMEwell this is much farther than I have gotten with it before09:13
bazhangthat's positive at least09:13
Arch_NMEIm at desktop now09:14
bazhangis the system up to date?09:14
Arch_NMElspci says intel 82852/855gm integrated graphics09:15
Arch_NMEit's a fresh install of an miage I downloaded today09:15
Arch_NMEmiage = image09:15
Arch_NMEhave not run any updates though as this is the first time I have been able to get it to start09:16
bazhangmight want to update now that you can :)09:16
Arch_NMEperhaps runnign the update will help?09:16
Arch_NMEok09:16
Arch_NME88 available09:17
Arch_NMEinstalling now09:17
bazhanggreat :)09:17
Arch_NMEupdate download complete now installing09:25
Arch_NMEupdates complete restarting system09:33
Arch_NMEand it appears to have frozen again on the same spot09:35
Arch_NMEany other ideas?09:36
gabi_hello guys, can you tell me how to update xfce 4.6.1 to xfce 4.6.2 in xubuntu 10.04. Thnaks09:42
well_laid_lawnArch_NME: I think the boot option suggestion that bazhang posted earlier is your best bet09:43
well_laid_lawnArch_NME: I would suggest using   noapic nolapic   as first try for boot options09:44
bazhanggabi_, why would you need that09:45
Arch_NMEI have started installing ubuntu 9.1009:45
Arch_NMEwhat's apic though?09:45
gabi_i don't need it, but I thought it would be useful to have the latest version. If it's not smth. trivial then i will wait for next xubuntu release09:47
bazhanggabi_, best to wait then09:47
gabi_ok, thanks09:53
Arch_NMEyeah 9.10 just works10:14
Arch_NMEwtf...10:14
well_laid_lawnArch_NME: could be kernel options maybe10:14
Arch_NMEidk...10:15
Arch_NMEyou got me10:15
well_laid_lawnjust guessing - i'm a long way from your lappy here10:16
well_laid_lawn:]10:16
Arch_NMEidk10:17
Arch_NMEI'm just glad I got something working at this point10:17
Arch_NMEI'm using this computer as a navigation system this weekend10:17
Arch_NMEand the sun just rose...10:18
Arch_NMElol10:18
well_laid_lawnheh10:18
Arch_NMEdon't suppose you know anything about openCPN eh?10:18
well_laid_lawnnever even heard of it sorry :]10:19
Arch_NMEit marine nav software, quite nice actually10:20
well_laid_lawnsounds like fun10:21
iammhello... i'm quite close here w/ the wifi now... i am able to see my SSID but i can't connect to it...11:16
p0aHello how do I send a notification to the user using C on xubuntu?11:17
p0aI've seen the update manager do it11:17
well_laid_lawnc the programming language?11:21
p0ayes11:23
well_laid_lawnthat would be root and evey active user afaik - from the kernel up apps use c11:24
p0aIs root necessary? I think a user can send a message to himself11:25
p0amessage/notification11:25
p0aI think pidgin does it too11:25
well_laid_lawnif you type   top   in terminal you will see apps running and the user that started them - root is listed lots 'cause lots of daemons and stuff are written in c11:26
StaRetjiHello folks, can someone help me out with ssh here12:20
StaRetjifor some reason if I change sshd port to 2222 instead of 2212:21
StaRetjiconnection is rejected12:21
StaRetjisame thing works well on ubuntu, so I'm a bit confused12:21
well_laid_lawnyou changed it on the server but not the client?12:21
StaRetjiI just opened sshd_config changed 22 to 2222 restarted deamon, nothing12:22
well_laid_lawnor is it blocked by the firewall12:22
StaRetjinopes, it works on another usb stick on the same machine12:22
StaRetjiso, basically, everything is the same12:22
StaRetjiif I put back to 22 it works12:22
well_laid_lawnsshd is on the "server" - the client comp would default to using 2212:22
StaRetjiso I wonder, if xubuntu has firewall12:23
StaRetjiyeah, i know, but i specify 2222 on the client12:23
well_laid_lawnk12:23
well_laid_lawn!ufw12:23
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.12:23
well_laid_lawn!info ufw12:24
ubottuufw (source: ufw): program for managing a Netfilter firewall. In component main, is standard. Version 0.30pre1-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 126 kB, installed size 748 kB12:24
well_laid_lawnin terminal do   ps aux | grep ufw   to see if it is running12:25
StaRetjiroot@ubuntu:~# ps aux | grep ufw12:26
StaRetjiroot      6870  0.0  0.1   1856   608 pts/1    S+   11:26   0:00 grep --color=auto ufw12:26
StaRetjii tried sudo ufw default allow12:26
StaRetjisame thing12:26
well_laid_lawnk12:26
StaRetjionce i go back to 22 it works, damn :)12:26
StaRetji10 mins ago, i've tried ubuntu it works on 2222, no problem12:27
well_laid_lawnyou could try in #ubuntu-server they might be more familiar with ssh12:27
StaRetjithx mate, appreciate your help12:28
well_laid_lawnnp12:28
StaRetjione more question if you don't mind12:32
StaRetjiwhere do I change menu.lst12:32
StaRetjior this is different now?12:32
StaRetjiI would like to modify it a bit, as I don't need boot menu anymore, just want default one12:33
well_laid_lawnr u using 10.04?12:33
StaRetjiyep12:33
well_laid_lawn!grub212:33
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub212:33
StaRetjiok, thx!12:33
well_laid_lawnno menu.lst anymore12:33
StaRetjiunderstood12:34
well_laid_lawnoptions are moved to diff files12:34
well_laid_lawnsame options - different files for 'em12:34
StaRetjion to reading ;)12:35
StaRetjihm, it will be tough, I'm using xubuntu live on usb stick with persistant storage12:37
StaRetjiroot@ubuntu:~# /usr/sbin/update-grub12:37
StaRetji/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).12:37
StaRetjii tried searching for grub.cfg on usb stick, but there is none12:39
well_laid_lawnafaik livecd doesn't use grub12:39
StaRetjiexactly12:39
StaRetjinow I have to find where's the boot file12:39
well_laid_lawnso what is it you want to change?12:39
StaRetjithere boot option, several12:40
well_laid_lawnboot is syslinux iirc12:40
StaRetjiwhen I start, it offers whole lot12:40
StaRetjiI just want to leave the one with persistant storage and make it boot instant12:40
well_laid_lawn!remaster12:41
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility12:41
CuriosTigerHi all. So this is just cosmetic, but I discovered that if I enable display compositing (in Window Manager Tweaks), the actual body of my Terminal windows (which had app-specific transparency) goes completely opaque.13:04
schlaftierCuriosTiger: are you using the xfce4-terminal?13:08
CuriosTigeryes13:09
schlaftierCuriosTiger: then it should play along with the Xfce compositing capabilities... just enable transparency in the preferences13:09
CuriosTigerI did, and it doesn't seem to be playing along13:10
CuriosTigerit did in 9.10, so this seems to have changed in the latest release. Then again, I did reinstall (rather than upgrade), so it could be a setting issue somewhere13:11
schlaftierHow did you proceed to make it transparent before you enabled Xfce compositing?13:11
CuriosTigerxfce-terminal preferences -> Appearance -> Transparent background13:12
CuriosTigerand that works fine with compositing off. It's only when I enable compositing globally that the windows return to being completely opaque (except for the title bar, which does then become transparent as it's supposed to.)13:14
schlaftierI see. However, that's not real transparency without compositing (it only shows part of the desktop background picture)13:14
CuriosTigerTrue. Are you saying I should disable the feature in xfce-terminal and rely only on the global settings?13:14
schlaftierI can confirm that when I disable and enable transparency, it stays grey.13:15
schlaftierNo, I'm not suggesting you to disable it in xfce4-terminal, because you need it there too13:15
CuriosTigerwell, need and need. It really is just eye candy.13:15
CuriosTigerBut you're right it's not true transparency -- xfce-terminal only shows the background, not other windows behind it for example13:15
schlaftierTry quitting the terminal and opening it again, worked for me13:15
CuriosTigerthat worked for me too. Danke. :)13:17
CuriosTigernow it also shows other windows behind it13:17
schlaftierYou're welcome13:17
schlaftierIt uses the default compositing features now13:18
CuriosTigerneat13:18
CuriosTigerI just configured it so that it becomes more transparent when inactive13:18
CuriosTigerseems a good way to tell the active window apart from inactive ones13:18
* CuriosTiger goes through every time he does a fresh install, trying to tweak the desktop "just so"13:19
CuriosTigerActually pretty happy with the result right now.13:20
schlaftierCuriosTiger: there are a couple of new features in each release, so it's worth it... also you don't get bored that way ;-)13:20
CuriosTigerschlaftier: I was just happy that vmware was quick about releasing a new version of vmware tools this time. That usually takes them a while.13:21
CuriosTiger(My primary desktop OS at work is win7, but I always have xubuntu running in a virtual machine for easy access to bash, various command-line tools and certain unix/linux utils that are either unavailable or poorly ported to windows)13:22
CuriosTigerI'm particularly happy to have xfce because compiz fusion doesn't work in vmware (the vmware video driver lacks the necessary support)13:24
schlaftierCompiz is overkill anyway for me :)13:27
CuriosTigerfor me too13:29
CuriosTigerbut it's nice that xfwm gives me eye candy on emulated graphics :)13:29
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chavezHi all, I recently upgraded from kubuntu 8.04 to 9.10 and then to 10.04. Removed all kde4 stuff and changed to xfce (minimal xubuntu, with only few apps). Now can't get mouse acceleration to work - xfce settings manager doesn't work, xset mouse 20 2 also15:55
slow-motionhi16:06
ochosi!hi16:06
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!16:06
bludshi16:25
bludsanybody can tell me how can i read a compact flash at bit level16:25
frnknstnwhat do you mean by 'at bit level'?16:55
frnknstnsomething lower than dd would do?16:56
choihi what do i do when my kernel has no iso9660 (cdrom) filesystem support?18:24
Kangarooohello. im maybe having this problem https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes so first i tyd link whats first in that page. X  freezes . https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze from there i found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen and in bottom theres command sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg and intel_reg_dumper > regdump_good.txt  while working and when not then thrue ssh intel_reg_dumper > regdump_broke.tx19:05
Kangaroooi just now got again crash and from another pc ssh did that. what more info should i make? some more commands to make crash report? maybe apport ubuntu-bug offline for later uploading but for what package? xorg?19:06
Kangarooocharlie-tca: ? for error when pc has one of theese intel integrated video what bug report should i do? im now in ssh to crashed pc. apport-cli -f -p xorg ? or xserver-xorg-video-intel ?19:14
kangarooo1ok i made offline ubuntu-bug for xorg apport.xserver-xorg-video-intel and apport.xserver-xorg witch one should i report?19:38
charlie-tcaKangarooo: if it is an intel video, use the -intel package20:12
charlie-tcaIf it is not intel, use xserver-xorg20:12
knomecharlie-tca, who would be responsible for wacom-related stuff in ubuntu?20:12
charlie-tcaI don't know. bug would be against 'wacom'20:13
knomei don't want to file a bug. i want to get my hands on that person.20:13
charlie-tcaIt is in main, I believe, which normally means desktop20:13
knomethay've apparently removed the wacomcpl tool, which makes configuring the tablet a nightmare20:14
likemindeadfacepalm.jpg20:14
charlie-tcalooking20:14
charlie-tcasays 'Ubuntu X-SWAT'20:14
knomeand that would be?20:15
charlie-tcahttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-lists20:15
knomeirc channel?20:15
charlie-tcaheh... good luck with that one20:15
charlie-tcaUbuntu X-SWAT does not use Launchpad. This page was created on 2008-10-06  when the xserver-xorg-input-joystick_1:1.3.2-1ubuntu1 package was uploaded to intrepid/RELEASE.20:15
knomeread that20:15
charlie-tcaoh, maybe that is wrong. That is not in lucid20:16
knomethat?20:16
charlie-tcaOh, same team though for lucid and maverick20:16
charlie-tcaTimo Aaltonen <tjaalton@ubuntu.com>20:17
knomeright...20:17
charlie-tca^ ^ published it for lucid20:17
charlie-tcalooks like #ubuntu-x should own it20:18
knomemeh20:18
charlie-tcait is part of xserver-xorg packages20:19
knomeyes, but the package no longer includes wacomcpl20:19
charlie-tcatimo also has a ppa for it20:20
knomeò.O20:20
charlie-tcaThe X team should be the ones responsible for that, I think20:20
charlie-tcahttps://launchpad.net/~tjaalton/+archive/ppa20:20
charlie-tcabugs for it go here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom20:21
charlie-tcayup, #ubuntu-x20:22
charlie-tcahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom20:24
knomeNOTE: there is no package wacom-tools in Ubuntu 10.04 any more, so you'll have to use your tablet without it.20:25
charlie-tcaIs that the missing package?20:27
knomeyes20:27
knomeand i have no idea why it is dropped20:27
knomemaybe because sabdfl do not want any "complex" gui's in...20:28
knomethis just makes configuring your tablet with dual head a really, really hard job20:28
knomeand i wouldn't want to use time for that kind of stuff20:28
charlie-tcaWell, at least it is an answer20:30
knomeit's a very bad one20:31
knomeand there is no answer, to be exact20:31
knomei'm just guessing20:31
knomewhy would anybody want to drop a package if it makes life uh... really hard for somebody?20:32
charlie-tcaYou could ask bryce that one. He is the head guy for xorg, isn't he?20:34
knomeno idea20:34
knomei'd just like my wacom to work again really20:34
knomei've been working on this a couple of hours already.20:35
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woodworkshey, i installed ubuntu 9.10 on an old box and decided gnome was just too sluggish, so using some debian dvds and aptitude installed xfce, is this close to what xubuntu does? should i try to get xubuntu installed?21:12
knomewell xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce rather than gnome21:13
charlie-tcaActually, xubuntu installs xfce along with lightweight applications to try and keep resources required as low as possible21:13
charlie-tcaor what knome said21:13
woodworksso its pretty much the same? the way i did it?21:13
charlie-tcaWhat apps does debian install? don't really kniow21:13
woodworksi mean it runs pretty nice21:13
charlie-tcaIf it ain't broke...21:14
woodworkscharlie-tca: my sentiments exactly, thanks for the input guys21:14
likemindeadLOL -- http://bit.ly/9WmQPx21:16
xubuntu778hi21:20
knome!hi | xubuntu77821:20
ubottuxubuntu778: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!21:20
xubuntu778This is fantastic21:21
likemindeadYes, it is. :D21:21
xubuntu778I have internet and system not instaled for all21:21
xubuntu778before this I was on Kubuntu 9.1021:22
xubuntu778does have many diferents ?21:23
knomexubuntu778, xfce instead of kde21:23
xubuntu778ok21:24
xubuntu778if I want to use PPPOE did I need to use terminal to create connection or have something else21:25
likemindeadLike for a dial-up connection? :-\21:26
xubuntu778you mean it's the same way like for dial-up?21:27
xubuntu778sea you later I need to restart, installation complete21:29
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Kangarooowill command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat add ppa from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat ?22:26
Kangarooocouse in vi /etc/apt/sources.list i dont see anything changed and dont see that ppa added22:28
charlie-tcanope22:36
charlie-tcalooks to me like it is ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa22:37
charlie-tcaor ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates22:37
charlie-tcadepending on which one you wanted22:38
charlie-tcaGo to the website https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat and click on the one you want to use. It will take you to the lauchpad page the tells what to add for that ppa.22:38
Kangarooocharlie-tca: i wanted https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test so i tryd sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-freeze-test and that also didnt add anything22:42
Kangarooomaybe ubuntu-x-swat/x-freeze-test/ubuntu  ?yes?22:43
Kangarooono that also didnt add22:43
charlie-tcaRead that page carefully. It tells you it is ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-freeze-test22:44
charlie-tcaThere are two packages in that ppa, both for Jaunty22:45
Kangaroooand that also didn add. i tryd also deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-freeze-test/ubuntu jaunty main  but since that didnt work i was looking for other ways to add22:45
pahindrhello22:45
Kangaroooah wait22:46
charlie-tcaKangarooo: are you using jaunty?22:46
Kangaroooi dont know. 10.0422:46
charlie-tca!hi | pahindr22:46
ubottupahindr: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!22:46
charlie-tca10.04 is lucid22:46
charlie-tcajaunty was 9.0422:46
Kangaroooah im confused with thouse name :)22:46
charlie-tcabookmark this page that tells you the name and number - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu22:47
Kangaroooah ok since that package is only for jaunty i cant add that?22:51
charlie-tcaYou did add the ppa, but the package will only show up in jaunty22:53
Kangaroooand also shouldt it show at least that i know its added in that sources.list?22:54
charlie-tcaI am not sure22:54
charlie-tcathink you have to reboot the computer to make it show up, but I could be wrong22:55
Kangaroooi want to do this full bug report so im folowing steps in https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test since i see that in that list theres that intel-gpu-tools then i dont need that ppa since this package is also in universe22:55
knomeKangarooo, the ppa probably has a newer version, which you are supposed to be using22:56
charlie-tcaActually, the ppa is old22:57
knomethen the instructions are probably old as well22:57
slow-motionn822:57
Kangarooobut link to theese instructions i found in page about bugs in newest version22:58
Kangarooofrom https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes i used first link Xfreezes that goes to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze and and end theres info about this page https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test22:59
Kangaroooill comunicate with that teams channel #ubuntu-x to make attention to that23:00
knomeif those packages are indeed in the repo's, you don't need the ppa23:00
knome#ubuntu-x might not be really that responsive...23:00
knome(don't hold your breath)23:01
Kangarooothen in step 1 that should be added as comment that for verion that and that skip step 1. but maybe that ppa isnt for step 2 but for some else step but i dont see any other installation step. so then i also totaly asume that step isnt needed23:02
Kangarooocharlie-tca: yes after reboot sources.list wasnt updated so since its ppa for older ver. then that deb command and add-apt-repositorys didnt added or added in somewhere else23:04
charlie-tcaokay23:04
Kangaroooyes that channel is sleeping. i tryd step 4   4.  `sudo INTEL_DEBUG=batch /etc/init.d/gdm restart` but got error http://pastebin.com/G4UCuFpS so instead of that command i should do restart gdm ?23:10
charlie-tcaI can't help with that. I don't know anything about it23:12
Kangarooook ill try as that error said restart gdm23:12
Kangarooohow thrue ssh execute sh script to run in monitor of that computer?23:28

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