[05:03] hi everyone, people in #ubuntu were busy, is there someone here could help me sort some problems in installing wifi driver... its been 3 days and i'm getting crazy.. [05:04] i'm activating Broadcom STA driver from the hardware drivers list [05:04] but gives me error, 'Sorry, installation of this driver failed, please.... details: /var/log/jockey.log [05:04] http://pastebin.com/AJ4cNQNG [05:05] i uninstalled the other B43 wireless or the kernel-source and try to activate the STA [05:07] its quite a pain that xubuntu lucid iso doesn't come w/ the bcmwl-kernel-source, b43-fwcutter, and some others to get my BCM4312 working... [05:08] i just have to download ubuntu lucid iso to get it from there... [05:08] :/ [05:08] iamm: hmm, which kernel are you running? [05:09] um, where could i check that, i'm still starting to use linux.. [05:09] use "uname -a" [05:10] your output log is saying something like "what you're trying to install was not built for the kernel you are using".. and you really should be using 2.6.32-22-generic [05:11] in other words, simply open a terminal (right-click desktop, "Open Terminal Here") and then type "uname -a" [05:11] Linux jacuzzi-star 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP [05:12] then the date time UTC i686 GNU/Linux [05:12] yeah, i recommend you upgrade the kernel to 2.6.32-22. Normally kernel upgrades aren't necessary but in this case your error message is specifically mentioning it [05:13] mmm how would i be able to upgrade... w/ no wifi... [05:13] i've got ubuntu and xubuntu lucid ISOs [05:13] oh, you're not on a landline right now. so you have two computers? [05:13] yes i'm using my cousin's [05:14] wired wasn't also working trying to get help in #ubuntu but one helping me got out of options.. [05:14] because even ethtool wasn't present [05:15] generally every package on ubuntu is available as a .deb, I think, which is a file you could put on a usb stick and copy-paste to your ubuntu install. [05:15] i've never done that for a kernel upgrade and kernel source, though..hmm [05:15] yes, but he said that should be out of package already... inbuilt i guess.. [05:16] you can't just connect the laptop to wired internet temporarily and run the appropriate apt-get commands? [05:16] should i again... re-install xubuntu lucid... its taking me days already... :(( [05:17] i thought you already have xubuntu-lucid installed.. how would a re-install help? [05:17] because maybe i thought i've messed up some things already, a fresh probably... could helpp [05:17] nah, no need. linux is smart [05:18] we've run the wired yesterday, but it just reads then nothing happens [05:18] you mean you're not even getting internet with a wired connection? [05:18] the network icon at the top, spins like reading, then returns to its orig icon... then that's it... still disconnected... [05:18] yes [05:19] that's odd. wired networks almost *always* work out of the box on ubuntu. I'm assuming you're connecting to a router, right? [05:19] yes.. from a router.. [05:20] what type of network card are you using for the wired connection? [05:21] RTL8101E / RTL8012E [05:23] i really think that should be working out of the box. It didn't even work on a fresh install? Is your router doing normal DHCP? [05:25] hey, i tried to install xubuntu on top of a kubuntu install using the xubuntu-desktop package, but now i can't log in. all i get when gdm tries to load is a grey screen and no mouse pointer [05:25] "ifconfig" gives you general information on your network card config. It should be listing your wired network adapater as eth0, and it should have some basic info [05:27] if anyone has any ideas some help would be nice [05:27] ElTimo: i'm not sure, but it sounds like the computer is failing to locate the window manager. Do you get a window manager if you try to load xfce directly from the commandline with "xfce4-session"? [05:27] ruien: it's actually failing to load the login manager itself. all i get is a blank grey screen that fades in from black, rather like gdm does [05:29] but startx works fine [05:29] i'd just rather not have to hit ctrl+alt+f1, log in, then type startx and then finally be able to use my computer [05:29] how does startx know to load xfce instead of kde now that you have both installed? [05:29] i uninstalled kde. [05:30] ruien: http://pastebin.com/gSFwwn2k [05:31] ah, okay. could you just do something like putting "su -c startx" in your /etc/rc.local? [05:31] which basically just runs the startx command (as you, not as root) when the computer boots (since rc.local is run on boot) [05:32] iamm: looking [05:32] essentially, but i just feel like it's cleaner to do it the normal way [05:33] agreed; it would be. Personally i don't know enough about window managers to fix it the right way [05:33] i just installed xubuntu directly and obviously that works out of the box :) [05:34] of course [05:34] fsck it. i'm going back to lubuntu until i can fix this lol [05:34] good luck [05:34] thanks, and thanks for trying to help [05:34] sure [05:35] iamm: maybe i am missing something, but it looks like your eth0 wired adapter is getting a IPv6 address but no IPv4 address. [05:35] other computers are connected behind this router without issue, right? [05:35] should it be IPv4 not the 6? [05:35] yeah, definitely [05:35] yes.. all windows [05:35] ^^ [05:36] should it be the driver too? [05:37] well, it's hard to say. I am using a similar network adapter, and it's working out of the box. You *should* have a line that looks like: inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [05:37] btw i'm running the xubuntu side by side with windows.. if that helps :/ [05:37] err, 192.168.0.2 [05:37] i see [05:37] as a VM, or dual-boot? [05:38] dual boot on one physical HD and divided by partitions.. [05:38] it won't affect it then. anyway i gotta take off for lunch, be back later, sorry.. :-/ [05:39] alright [05:47] anyone here i need some help [05:49] join #ubuntu-irc-helpers [05:53] Anyway, my turn.. I have one hard drive, sda, with sda1 and then sda2 holding logical partitions {sda5, sda6, sda7, and sda8}. My xubuntu installation is on sda1 as it is my main OS. I have a ghost image from a previous solely-windows-xp install that I have imaged onto sda7. Grub2 finds the install, but it does not boot. Does this method have any hope? [05:57] wb iamm [05:58] :) thx [05:58] i meant to ask, with no internet connection, how were you installing the bcmwl-kernel-source module anyway? [06:00] i've downloaded it [06:00] the .deb? [06:00] from the ubuntu package site [06:00] yes [06:00] ohh.. that's the problem. I see now [06:00] you know about dependencies right? [06:00] yes... [06:00] getting familiar with it [06:01] though i've did it one by one .. those [06:01] when it ran error because it needed some files [06:01] i think you missed some [06:01] then download some again [06:01] i see.. [06:01] right. I think you need the kernel-sources.. let me see if I can find the package [06:05] i've ran through this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=06c6ee239e7c9752ace5ce73bbaa0805&t=1368699 though its for karmic, i saw for lucid and saw the same package version i've downloaded before [06:05] looking... [06:05] my case applied for liveusb offline, but the xubuntu iso don't have dkms [06:05] only dkpg [06:07] and also, b43 and STA needs to be installed both isn't it? or only one.. [06:07] i'm not sure, because when I installed my wireless driver I only did "apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source", had no errors, and it worked. It did have to download dependencies though, and I had an internet connection so it found everything. [06:08] so i've got both dkpg and dkms installed... gee i'm getting cloudy... [06:09] right [06:09] would you walk me through getting the wired working... i guess its the easiest way.. [06:10] yeah. Basically, i think you just need to configure the adapter manually, because it's likely the drivers are there [06:11] i'm looking up info on that now [06:13] what error do you get if you try to ping 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.1.1 [06:13] no route to host? [06:14] okay, i think xubuntu SERIOUSLY needs more work [06:14] or at least attention to detail [06:15] like what? [06:15] iamm: try something like ifconfig etho 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.0 [06:16] neither the default gdm theme nor the default settings are installed with the metapackage, and even when they are installed, the settings aren't honored AT ALL [06:16] okay [06:16] i have NEVER needed a cigarette when dealing with an ubuntu-based operating system [06:16] hey all, i am looking at the XScreensaver app-defaults file, has xubuntu considered modifying this to make it prettier? [06:16] and i damn near just threw my laptop across the room [06:17] ruien, should i be actively connected to the wired while doing so? [06:17] ElTimo, please calm down [06:17] yes. [06:17] connect to the wired, restart the machine. [06:17] then give me a printout of `ifconfig` [06:18] sorry, i'm just appalled that there is so little care taken in an LTS release [06:18] okay brb in a moment [06:18] ElTimo, you have not said what the issues or errors are; you won't get any help in your current mode. [06:19] Hi, is there any difference between Ubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu-server besides desktop environment? [06:19] !details | ElTimo [06:19] ElTimo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [06:19] well, I supposed -server has no envi [06:19] Datz: no [06:19] Datz: nope [06:19] ok, thanks [06:19] Datz, they are cli [06:19] alright, bazhang i was in here earlier. and if you'd care to read the scrollback, i did mention what my problem was [06:19] why do I get different numbers of modules with lsmod on these different installs? [06:20] so before you pull out your prepackaged responses on me, pay some attention [06:20] ElTimo, please lose the attitude [06:20] you first. [06:20] don't bother to kick me, i'll leave [06:20] bazhang, i can only second ElTimo in this case [06:21] i can't [06:21] let's not make flamewar [06:21] i'm not trying for that [06:21] are default config for packages different for Ubuntu/xubuntu? [06:21] Datz, yes, that's actually the reason i'm having so many problems lol [06:22] you have two separate installs in same machine? (why) [06:22] ah [06:23] Datz: yes. What problem are you trying to solve; maybe we can recommend one of them? [06:24] ElTimo: i think gdm default settings are taken to use when you install xubuntu-artwork and xubuntu-gdm-theme [06:24] but not with ubuntu-*? [06:24] idk about that [06:24] that' #ubuntu problem then :) [06:25] ruien: no problem, going to move from xubuntu to ubuntu server if resource use in general is the same. I remember someone complaining about apache2 taking up too much ram with -server, they having 320MB RAM.. this machine I want to install is old P3 with 256MB RAM.. wondering if xubuntu is lighter resource wise discounting GUI [06:25] yeah good point :P [06:26] * ElTimo is currently in his 4th attempt at getting xubuntu to install properly >< [06:26] Datz: ubuntu-server will be MUCH lighter than xubuntu with xfce loaded and such. [06:26] xubuntu with gdm stopped seems very light [06:27] ruien: that's why I say minus GUI [06:27] anything is pretty light without grapics [06:27] ruien, quite laborous.. error goes something, permission denied, eth0: error while getting interface flags: No such device [06:27] ruien, wouldn't ubuntu server have a bunch of server apps running in the background? [06:27] well, I have only 256MB ram [06:28] ElTimo: not really.. I installed a machine from ubuntu-server and it was very barebones [06:28] with alternate disk you can make barebone cli installation also [06:29] iamm: when you type "ifconfig", you get no output except for the error? [06:30] ruien, for only 'ifconfig' it lists eth0 and lo, with 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.0 it gives that error [06:31] iamm: right. i want to see the output for "eth0" when you just run ifconfig normally, while the wired network is attached. [06:32] ruien, i think its the same w/ the pastebin i've given earlier, but i'll give the lines in a sec... [06:32] okay, i was thinking maybe that pastbin didn't have the wired attached on reboot. [06:35] ruien, http://pastebin.com/jvGHE0dz [06:36] wired was connected when i restarted [06:37] hmm, what happens when you run "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.105 netmask 255.255.255.0" as root? [06:38] means, with 'sudo' ? [06:39] its the same error as above.. [06:39] does ddwrt some issues w/ linux clients? [06:40] the router doesn't care what os the comps are running [06:40] ...okay :/ [06:42] well, that's generally true, assuming the router's protocols have been implemented correctly. Is it a respectable brand? [06:43] linksys router [06:44] this is what i get 3 lines of error http://pastebin.com/qKLn9xCA [06:45] you spelt it ehth0 - it is eth0 [06:46] iamm: you typed "ehth0"? [06:47] wow why is the image on the unlock screen for screensaver so hard to change... [06:47] ah dang, yes... [06:47] still trying to figure out where it is loaded from [06:48] ruien, no error anymore.. [06:48] iamm: okay, there shouldn't be any output. Can you pastebin the output from "ifconfig" again? [06:49] okay one sec [06:52] http://pastebin.com/D46Ah8sQ [06:53] iamm: that *looks* normal now.. can you ping google? [06:54] 'ping google.com', unknown host, checked the icon at the top still disconnected... [06:55] okay, i don't know then. I can only direct you over to #ubuntu... [06:55] restart the network [06:55] now the cards up [06:55] okay... thanks for the help anyway ruien.. [06:55] sudo service networking restart [06:56] well_laid_lawn, okay [06:57] restart: unknown instance: [06:57] error [06:59] iamm, sudo /etc/init.d/networkign restart [06:59] iamm, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [07:00] I've just been assuning everyone's on 10.04 lately... [07:00] ManicMalkavian, * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [OK] [07:00] does it work now? [07:01] ping www.google.com -n 4 [07:02] ManicMalkavian, nope, still disconnected [07:02] ping: unknown host www.google.com [07:03] ping 58.28.4.2 -n 4 [07:03] i think the problem is that I told him how to make the network card listen on, say 192.168.0.105, but that wasn't DHCP-generated, and the card still does not know the default gateway and such [07:04] ManicMalkavian: ping x.x.x.x -c4 [07:04] aaah i see [07:05] (i know next to nothing on network adapter manual config) [07:05] should try to ping the router [07:05] all is network unreachable... [07:06] i'll try to restart the system [07:06] ping -c 3 192.168.1.1 [07:06] for the router [07:06] do we know if the router is 192.168.0 or 192.168.1 [07:07] we don't know. [07:07] it would help - best to just use dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces [07:07] oh, wait. he said it was a linksys router [07:08] never used one here... [07:09] um, its still network unreachable [07:09] well on a fresh install of xubuntu, i assumed it would already be attempting to use dhcp automatically.. but that wasn't working (his eth0 had an inet6 addr but no ipv4) [07:10] i'll do another install anyways... it would take less than hour and hopefully i could have the wired working [07:10] thanks guys [07:11] and with the firmware upgrade to the router is ipv4 enabled? [07:11] good luck iamm.. we tried :-/ [07:11] well_laid_lawn... not sure how that works tho.. [07:12] you would have to connect with the routers interface to check it... [07:12] i see.. i'll still have to check it [07:13] not much of a networker.. :D [07:14] I onlt know enough to get myself into trouble and sometimes out :] [07:14] s/onlt/only [07:14] if another comp can use the router it prob is fine [07:14] thanks well_laid_lawn.. i'll try to reinstall first xubuntu and see if the wired works [07:15] k luck [07:22] iamm: there is a guy (JHAY) in #ubuntu with exactly the same problem you are seeing [07:23] thanks ruien [07:24] Slart is familiar, i think he's one of the guys who helped me yesterday with the wired... [07:25] everything goes good just stopped with ethtool [07:25] the guy helping JHAY is "Loshki", so read his responses to jhay and try them yourself [07:26] just sharing.. [07:26] thanks [07:26] ok [07:59] Hey [07:59] Guys I need urgent help [07:59] like NOW NOW NOW help [08:01] uh, what's up? [08:01] Allanea, then ask a question [08:01] hard to help not knowing the issue [08:01] clues ^^ [08:01] you are crossposting in #ubuntu as well [08:02] !find chromium [08:02] Found: chromium, chromium-browser, chromium-browser-dbg, chromium-browser-inspector, chromium-browser-l10n (and 9 others) [08:02] !info chromium-browser [08:02] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0.342.9~r43360-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 11477 kB, installed size 38368 kB [08:02] sudo apt-get install chromium-browser [08:02] no need for firefox on that one [08:04] thanks [08:04] is there any way to uninstall FF after this is done? [08:04] same helpers in most major channels [08:05] sure [08:05] via the package manager [08:05] okay? [08:05] hi guys i've reinstalled xubuntu but wired still not working, out of the box.. [08:05] iamm, what chipset [08:06] where could i possibly see that.. [08:06] newbie ^^ [08:06] iamm, try lspci if its pci, lsusb if its usb [08:07] i see, lspci chipset for wired? [08:07] should be yep [08:07] wow this install is slow as fuck out [08:08] just type lspci [08:08] sorry for the cursing [08:08] Allanea, language please [08:08] have spent 3 days and 5 empty CDs trying to make the machine work [08:08] iamm, paste.ubuntu.com with the output and give us the url [08:08] while also writing my essays on a lappy [08:08] :) [08:08] a VISTA lappy [08:08] Allanea, recent machine [08:09] 2 years old [08:09] try unetbootin then boot from usb flash stick [08:09] no need for CD [08:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/440728/ [08:11] reading now iamm [08:11] well the browser is working [08:12] iamm, what does ifconfig show? [08:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/440730/ [08:15] iamm, that looks good [08:16] iamm, now in terminal try sudo dhclient eth0 followed by your user password [08:18] iamm, I had that same chipset in previous computer, so certainly works [08:22] bazhang: sorry to interrupt but there used to be a botlink for intel hd sound fix but I can't for the life of me find it - is it still there? [08:23] !hdaintel [08:23] For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [08:23] well_laid_lawn, that? [08:23] bazhang: thnx :] [08:24] hmmn when installing, should the wired be connected? because i didn't.... [08:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/440737/ [08:25] iamm, is the ethernet cable plugged in now? [08:25] yes when i performed the the dhclient [08:26] that's odd [08:27] when i plugged in the cable, the network icon reads but gets back to disconnected [08:28] the network manager applet? [08:28] yess at the top.. [08:29] was it still trying to connect when you did that? [08:29] sudo dhclient eth0 ? [08:30] nope.. just either when i re-plug the cable or select the auto eth0 option on the icon [08:32] iamm, ok. lets leave that applet alone. [08:32] i'm thinking of fixing the wireless first, but i don't know which of which on the guides i've been through with google [08:32] iamm, dual boot? [08:33] yes, side by side w/ windows xp [08:33] 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) that's your wireless [08:33] very well supported in Ubuntu [08:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=06c6ee239e7c9752ace5ce73bbaa0805&t=1368699&page=2 [08:34] could i follow that guide [08:34] instead of karmic though, i'll download the lucid ones.. [08:34] iamm, I seem to recall windows likes to shut down certain wireless devices unless otherwise told [08:35] what does sudo ifup wlan0 return [08:36] i'm now disconnecting the wired... [08:37] iamm, taking a break for the night? [08:37] not sure what that means... lolz... [08:38] iamm, you said you are disconnecting the ethernet cable [08:38] heheh got error: ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. ignoring unknown interface return=return [08:39] no need to disconnect the ethernet for that command btw [08:40] iamm, reconnect the ethernet cable and don't use the network manager applet , but instead run the command sudo dhclient eth0 once more [08:45] the same err :( [09:01] hi [09:01] anyone around? [09:01] hi [09:02] hello baxhang [09:02] I'm having trouble getting xubuntu to install on my toughbook cf-29 [09:02] recent notebook? what errors [09:02] well, actually I finally got it installed but now it freezes on boot [09:02] it's not recent [09:03] using the live or the alternate [09:03] pentium M 1.4 768 ram [09:03] using alternate [09:03] the live would not work [09:03] got all the way through install on alternate though [09:03] tried any bootoptions? [09:03] how do I access that? [09:03] !bootoptions [09:03] For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [09:04] does it get to the login screen? [09:04] no [09:05] it briefly shows the xubuntu logo then goes blank [09:06] this is booting off the HDD [09:06] which I just installed xbuntu to off the alt disk [09:07] what about in recovery mode [09:07] how do I access that? [09:07] hold shift at boot [09:08] that got me grub [09:08] this a dual boot? [09:08] no [09:08] I choose recovery mode [09:08] yep [09:09] now I have recovery menu [09:09] several choices, correct? [09:09] options are clean dpkg failsafex grub netroot root [09:10] I'd try failsafe [09:10] it said now runnign in low graphics mode [09:10] what would oyu like to do [09:10] what video card [09:11] I think this uses intel grphics [09:11] lucid 10.04? [09:12] Intel 915GMS Graphic [09:12] check lspci in terminal to be certain [09:12] okay [09:12] yeah this is with 10.4 [09:12] so run for one session [09:12] pr reconfigure graphics [09:12] pr = or [09:12] sounds like that's not the issue then [09:13] you could certainly try though, no harm [09:13] well this is much farther than I have gotten with it before [09:13] that's positive at least [09:14] Im at desktop now [09:14] is the system up to date? [09:15] lspci says intel 82852/855gm integrated graphics [09:15] it's a fresh install of an miage I downloaded today [09:15] miage = image [09:16] have not run any updates though as this is the first time I have been able to get it to start [09:16] might want to update now that you can :) [09:16] perhaps runnign the update will help? [09:16] ok [09:17] 88 available [09:17] installing now [09:17] great :) [09:25] update download complete now installing [09:33] updates complete restarting system [09:35] and it appears to have frozen again on the same spot [09:36] any other ideas? [09:42] hello guys, can you tell me how to update xfce 4.6.1 to xfce 4.6.2 in xubuntu 10.04. Thnaks [09:43] Arch_NME: I think the boot option suggestion that bazhang posted earlier is your best bet [09:44] Arch_NME: I would suggest using noapic nolapic as first try for boot options [09:45] gabi_, why would you need that [09:45] I have started installing ubuntu 9.10 [09:45] what's apic though? [09:47]