=== bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [00:58] So here's my question. I setup a file server using Ubuntu Server edition following the guild by Xam @ howtoforge.com. With only a few exceptions to minor tweaks the guide worked perfectly. The difference is I use a USB terabyte for data storage but that's not an issue. It works FANTASTIC right now. I can manage files from any computer in the house (vista xp linuxmint etc). The USB is mounted as /dev/sdb1 /media/store ntfs 0 0 [00:58] in my fstab file. It's sharing the root directory of the disk and users have access to the entire thing. Now that it's all working, I want to know if anyone knows a way I can not let the entire disk be shared but only select folders off the root for example /media/store/Music or /media/store/Videos. === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [03:56] I use Ubuntu on a laptop and i would love to know if there is an easy way to configure my machine to not automatically turn on the wireless card. [04:10] bonedragon: within network-manager, you can select the device and turn 'auto' off [04:11] or do you mean not to fire up the WiFi card in the 1st instance? [04:13] when i log in, both my wired and my wireless options are automatically enabled..so after i login i uncheck the wireless to save on battery every time [04:14] i wish i could save the setting, since its a laptop i turn my machine off alot and have to set it.. i was hoping to fine a non command fix so i don't forget what i did [04:15] i think you can set WiFi to off in BIOS with some of them. [04:15] i saw that suggestion on one of my searches, i will have to check next time i boot up [04:17] i can on the laptops I have, there is also sometimes a button either on the front of the laptop, or as a Fn + {some key} that can toggle it. [04:21] this laptop used to be vista, when i used the button to disable the wifi it would only stay off like that till i turned my machine off. my software remedy in windows was to disable the hardware (easy 1 setting fix). My feeling is that there is a way to do the same thing, but it would be a command to disable the turning on of the device, however my ability to follow the more powerful linux... [04:21] ...commands is somewhat limited [04:21] i have some linux experience but its from like 2 years ago and things have been updated to a nice finish on Ubuntu with the new release. [04:34] bonedragon: I'm trying to set up my skype atm, but a quick dig through the archives has found some one who wanted the WiFi off, I cannot vouch for it as I haven't tried it, but it may help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-844426.html [04:36] thanks for the link, i will read throughly before trying anything. thanks for the chat phillw === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [04:42] bonedragon: if that does not help, then pop over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 have a read through the posts, and feel free to post a question on there. [04:46] sweet, bookmarked [04:56] welcome Ten-Eight [04:58] thanks ZachK_ [04:59] Ten-Eight: and how are you [04:59] just fine and yourself? [04:59] ah ok.. [04:59] * Ten-Eight is at work for the night [04:59] planning/working projects [04:59] sounds like fun :) [05:00] yeah it can be [05:00] hub..hmm [05:01] Ten-Eight: need help or just hangin out [05:02] just checking in to see if anything was going on....and to see if I could be of assistance. [05:02] I check in from time to time. [05:02] ah [05:02] why don't you just join us then? [05:03] thanks...I'll hang around for awhile then. [05:03] been busy here at work...getting a reprieve for now...but will probably get going again shortlly. [05:04] i meant join us as in join the team [05:04] I don't check in enough to become a regular. [05:04] sup folks [05:04] hey stlsaint [05:04] stlsaint: long time no see [05:06] ZachK_: ?? i been here everyday for the last week or so [05:06] stlsaint: oh you have? kinda meant i haven't spoken with you i guess [05:07] stlsaint: ZachK_has been part time :p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs [05:07] * ZachK_ captures phillw [05:08] catch you guys later...I'll check in again soon! [05:08] * phillw scampers off to #lubuntu :-) [05:08] hey phillw [05:08] ho pedro3005 [05:09] :o [05:09] phillw, I am NOT a ho [05:09] -o +i [05:09] :) [05:09] soz, different meaning in brazil :-\ [05:09] No, I was hinting at "hoe" [05:11] pedro3005: do tell me, what is the 'war' going on with topic for ##devil? [05:11] phillw, none, I am just completely insane :) [05:12] I'll have to learn how to do change it ;p [05:12] :p [05:12] you can't [05:12] phillw: topic command is /topic the topic words here [05:12] phillw: if you have rights [05:12] phillw, Only the pros, i.e. ops :) [05:13] pedro3005: who has founder access to ##devil [05:13] ZachK_: I think i have to up my op mode, or summat like that [05:13] ZachK_, mohi [05:14] phillw: to op you would type /msg chanserv op ##devil phillw [05:14] phillw: if you have op rights/flags that is [05:17] i have no idea ZachK_, last time i was a sysop on an irc system they wrote some code to just auto give me what ever thinggies (priveleges) as soon as it sniffed my log in, password and IP address - I have better things to do in life than spen 10 minutes working out to raise priveleges in order to stop a 'bad person'. :-\ [05:18] I am going to bed guys [05:18] goodnight all [05:18] g'nite [05:18] catch u soon [07:33] hi,i have a bios bug which can be resolved by using acpi=off at boot , can i put this option at boot in ubuntu 10.04? [07:35] can anyone please explain wut is 2.6.33-020633rc2-generic and how can i install it ? Do i need to compile it or i can simply install it by update? === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [09:40] ZachK_: Ping [09:40] Anybody? [09:41] Eh whatever === phillw_away is now known as phillw === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [17:30] you know a distribution is amazing when the release updates include: [17:30] Notable features: [17:30] Grub2 replaces Grub-legacy [17:30] Slim replaces bash login [17:38] gt8: where have you been since April 2009? ;-) [17:41] oh, I dunno ... got quite drunk last night [17:41] next thing I know, it's 2010 [17:52] I will keep my views on how they 'launched' Grub2 on to us all quiet ;-) Yes, it needed doing and is the only way forward. Be careful about getting drunk again as by 2011 we may all be using btrfs :-D === mohi2911 is now known as mohi1 === mohi1 is now known as mohi2911 [18:10] phillw, oh, I am way ahead of you there... [18:10] by at least a year [18:12] phillw, infact, COW filesystems are pretty much the future of filesystems full stop. [18:13] btrfs wasn't the first for Linux, and it certainly isn't the last - there are other interesting developments on the same idea already in the kernel tree - however each for different application usages. [18:14] hay guis this HanifBaloch [18:14] hi hanifbaloch [18:14] this gt8 [18:14] gt8.awake = true; [18:14] lol [18:15] i need help on upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 [18:15] * mohi2911 sets gt8.awake = false; [18:15] hanifbaloch: you can upgrade to 10.04 too if you wish =] [18:15] mohi2911, baby steps ... [18:15] or tell your requirement hanifbaloch [18:15] hi hanifbaloch, you may want to consider making a sperate home and doing a re-install. [18:16] you certainly can go from 9.04 to 9.10, update grub & ext3 -->ext4 (I did it ) [18:16] i cant because it says first you must have 9.10 [18:17] hanifbaloch, have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes [18:17] hanifbaloch: indeed, you need to go 9.04 --> 9.10 --> 10.04, but there has been a lot of changes. IMHO I'd say hive off your /home to a partition and do a clean install. [18:18] hanifbaloch, have you installed any applications outside of the ubuntu repositories ? [18:18] phillw: cant we do directly from 9.04?? :( [18:18] mohi2911, no [18:18] you can however 8.04 -> 10.04 [18:18] mohi2911: only 9.10 and 8.04.4 can go to 10.04 [18:19] i don't know actually but may be bcz i have made ubuntu good for me [18:19] as windows was [18:20] hanifbaloch: that will most likely be settings, which be saved in your own area. you can get a list of what you have added and check that they are compatible with 10.04 [18:20] I think I spent lots of time with 8.10 itself. will be upgrading to lucid in days [18:20] and now i don't want to lose my data as well as the bundle of softwares [18:20] mohi2911: you will not do a direct 8.10 --> 10.04 upgrade [18:20] well, there is nothing wrong with Jaunty. ;) [18:20] isn't it supported for another year ? [18:21] phillw: gonna dowload lucid or zenix tonight =] [18:21] download* [18:21] you are right gt but every body is upgrading [18:21] mohi2911: meerkat is in the daily builds, it goes on to the test area tonight :-) [18:22] mohi my Net is very very slow and can't download that huge thang [18:22] Supported until October 2010 [18:22] hanifbaloch: before you consider updating your system, you need to consider how you are going to backup your data [18:22] hanifbaloch: so you have errors with upgrading to 9.10?? [18:23] Which is a better format to rip a DVD to, MKV or RMVB? [18:23] yes mohi you are right [18:23] hanifbaloch: what you get?? [18:23] lukjad86: RMVB will not play at all players. so MKV is somewhat ok than RMVB [18:24] phillw i thought of making a CD [18:24] mohi2911 Which will be smaller? [18:24] lukjad86: but if you ask me, both are poor :D [18:24] mohi2911 heh [18:24] :'( [18:25] lukjad86: they ll vary only bu some MBs and they ll not affect much. MKV is a good choice among those two [18:26] O.K guys i don't have the menu which logs off and shut down ubuntu what to do [18:26] hanifbaloch: tell me the result of doing "du -h" in terminal [18:26] hanifbaloch: when you go to update, you really *must* have a backup in case something horrible happens (a power cut 1/2 way through can really mess things up) [18:26] phillw: I've had that happen before. [18:26] hanifbaloch: tell me the value in the last line and thats enough [18:27] power problem of my country is the biggest problem [18:27] Luckily, my mad skillz allowed me to fix it without too much trouble. [18:27] hanifbaloch: where you belong to?? [18:27] collinp: I'm in PM with some one to whom that has happened, it also messed his 1TB external drive up, which we were sort of relying on :-( [18:27] Damn. 2x [18:27] pk [18:27] Damn because you were using it, and damn because it's a 1TB hard drive. [18:28] hanifbaloch: i am from India =] [18:28] collinp: it's looking up, actually. even though he had it formatted in FAT32 [18:28] hanifbaloch: tell the last line of du -h in terminal [18:28] lolwhat. [18:29] nice meeting you, do you think is should do du -h [18:29] yep. in terminal [18:29] and tell me the last value hanifbaloch [18:29] Record BBC Listen Again programs to MP3 in Ubuntu « Sprayfly_files [18:29] Thanks mohi2911 [18:29] if I have linux kernel 2.6.32-22 "linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic" can I remove the -19 and -16 packages? (including "linux-headers-2.6.32-19" and "linux-headers-2.6.32-16") ? [18:29] lukjad86: =] [18:30] collinp: when all else fails, and windows cannot resize a win partition, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169551 [18:30] bobo123: you mean in boot screen?? [18:30] bobo123: keep the 19 version [18:31] Windows partitions suck. [18:31] mohi i am a Baloch not a paki and i love being a Baloch [18:31] I mean, really. I haven't heard the word "defragment" used in relation to Linux in over a year. [18:31] hanifbaloch: fine and you did what i said?? [18:32] it shows this ./Record BBC Listen Again programs to MP3 in Ubuntu « Sprayfly_files [18:32] yeah I don't want them in grub menu, and wonder what this -headers packages is too that isn't removed when i uncheck the -image in synaptic [18:33] hanifbaloch: you did simply du -h in terminal right?? [18:33] yes [18:33] Headers are there for development, I believe. [18:34] hanifbaloch: the result i got is 77M [18:34] look if you have some values like that [18:35] bobo123: follow http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/need-to-remove-old-versions-of-ubuntu-kernel-466660/ if you are at unsure, then do not carry on, you can end up with no system. [18:35] and actually it is 425M . [18:35] ok [18:35] phillw: hanifbaloch's home folder is only 425M. ahat to do with installed packages?? [18:36] what* [18:36] bobo123: remember to do a sudo update-grub at the end of it all to update your list [18:36] hanifbaloch: you mentioned you had slow internet speed? [18:37] phillw: ah, almost forgot. thanks [18:37] yes actually the worst [18:38] is there anyone from who you can download and burn a cd of 700MB of data? [18:38] it shows 32bits [18:38] 32bits is not your innternet speed [18:38] hanifbaloch: is there anyone from who you can download and burn a cd of 700MB of data? [18:39] cononical send me ubuntu 10.04 yesterday [18:40] 32 is the download speed and disconnection is an other prob [18:40] okay, that's really good. [18:40] you have the installation cd [18:40] yes sir i do [18:41] hanifbaloch: have you used pastebin before? [18:42] no i didn't [18:44] hmm, okay. do have a cd writer installed and a blank cd-r disk? [18:44] btw, wouldn't it be more userfriendly if the grub menu only listed the operative systems one have, and if I want to see failsafe modes or alternative kernels I have to press some extra button first? [18:45] bobo123: no, it would not, when you install a new kernel version (the real important bit) and it is unhappy, you need to be able to get hold of the older one. for that reason grub *must* offer the option. [18:45] :-D [18:46] bobo123: its for your recovery purposes. you can re-arrange the order, but dont delete the recovery mode [18:48] I just want to have recovery mode and check memory stuff hidden behind F8 or something :-) [18:48] bobo123: what are all the distros you are using in your machune?? [18:48] i ask about OS [18:51] bobo123: can i recommend something to you, just in case you get a bit carried away .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484363 make sure you do run the update grub, if you have gotten a bit carried away, that's how to get it back [18:54] :'( [18:55] hanifbaloch: follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 and do you have a CD-RW??? [18:56] that's why i was weeping my CD-RW is faulty and stops in the mid [18:56] ah [18:58] mohi2911: just now I have only WindowsXP and Ubuntu10.04 and I think that would be a perfect short menu for most people (even though I want to have win98+dos+aros+kolibri+etc too :-) [18:59] bobo123: you want win on the second line of your Grub list on boot. right?? [19:00] bobo are you a nasa scientist [19:01] bcz combination of these all can only be on a super computer in nasa [19:01] it's just my point of view hummm please don't mind it [19:01] bobo123, that sort of "extra menus" feature was possible with grub 0.97 ... [19:02] yup... a perfect grub2 menu would be a small square in the middle of the screen with just the text "Ubuntu 10.04" and "Windows XP" on it and a text in the bottom border press [F8] for recovery modes (that will make the square larger and add the other modes indented under the main ones (perhaps winXP's failsafe mode too) [19:02] mohi what if i take my installation CD to a friend and copy its all folders in a USB [19:03] is it a possible way for ubuntu installation procees [19:04] phillw: can hanifbaloch upgrade directly to 10.04 with a live USB?? [19:04] hanifbaloch: if your cd-rw is not working, then you will need to make a seperate /home area to store your information while you re-install. If you cannot download all the 9.10 system because of you internet connection, then making a seperate /home is essential. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome has the instructions [19:04] gt8: ^^ [19:05] mohi2911: you can *not* upgrade from 9.04 --> 10.04 [19:05] ok ok :D [19:06] i have downloaded one mirror but its not upgrading my system to 9.10 [19:07] its about 689.6 MB [19:10] hanifbaloch: my best suggestion, and one I will help you with, is to follow http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome after that is done, we can back up your data / themes / bits you've added on and then put them back onto your 10.04 installation. without a working cd-rw drive you only have the choice of doing it that way or lose all your data. [19:11] or stay with 9.04, there's nothing 'wrong' with 9.04 - people still run 7.10 as they like it. [19:11] no updates though [19:11] eventually [19:12] holstein: and that is a problem for a fully working system ? [19:12] define working [19:12] do the lights come on [19:12] sure [19:12] Win 98 works very well, when was that last updated? :p [19:12] is there a security risk? [19:12] maybe [19:13] phillw: windows is a security risk though [19:13] out of the box [19:13] thats a given [19:13] holstein: but we'd have to find gainful employment for all the virus writers :p [19:13] and my problem is that i love moving not staying [19:13] would i personally be concerned about running ubuntu 7.10 without security updates [19:13] nah [19:14] I'd prefer 6.04 over Win :-D [19:14] hanifbaloch: ^^ read my post to you ^^ [19:15] phillw i did [19:16] hanifbaloch: that is the best we can do. it is now your decision as to what to do. [19:17] Can anyone help me with this error that oocurs when I try to update my system? "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/do-core/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" [19:17] AmericanHipster, looks like do-core doesn't have a ppa for Lucid [19:18] o.k what if i quit saving my data and fresh install 10.04 but? with out a CD drive? [19:19] gt8: Ahh, I see now. Thank you! [19:26] gt8: you on zenix now?? [19:26] and hiya hobgoblin [19:27] o/ [19:28] how are ya hobgoblin!! [19:29] pretty good ty just reading the fud in the channel from the logs :) [19:29] mohi2911, bodhi wanted me to have a look. [19:30] gt8: i think after 5 hours i also will be on it =] [19:30] i am changing my 8.10 distro after an year =] [19:31] dunno how am gonna put together the icon theme he wanted... [19:31] it looks nice ... but is severely incomplete [19:31] I mean ... it is not even organised into any sort of structure [19:31] hmmm he asked one day about newly designed icons i think [19:32] mohi2911, http://taubrey.deviantart.com/art/Zenicons-Version-0-2-148281888 [19:32] ohyeah. i saw it already [19:32] if you know anything that may go well with them, do let us know. ;) [20:00] welcome Scunizi [20:01] shoop pap [20:02] I have no clue what that means... [20:05] gt8: ok [20:25] fuck. [20:27] squishyy: words!! [20:27] i was hoping bodhi was in here [20:27] he s not availabel right now [20:28] squishyy, why do you need bodhi? [20:29] because i accidently deleted the kernel packages from ubuntu [20:29] and i'm in the livecd trying to find out what is the best way to fix it [20:29] squishyy, ok, which partition has your ubuntu install on ? [20:30] /dev/sda1 [20:30] you'll need to mount it, and then use the command 'chroot' to change root into it. [20:30] squishyy, ok, you open a terminal, you can - in sequence: [20:30] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt [20:30] gt8: [20:30] i'm not a noob. [20:31] =) [20:31] lol (: [20:31] D: [20:31] sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev [20:31] ^^ do the same for /proc /sys and /dev/pts [20:32] then: [20:32] sudo chroot /mnt [20:32] sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic # or whatever... [20:33] (actually, you can omit the 'sudo' bit in the last one) [20:33] squishyy, ^^ [20:34] i think it's actually working (: [20:34] thanks. [20:34] but [20:34] what was all the mount --bind stuff for? [20:34] * squishyy has never tried to chroot, (never needed to) [20:35] squishyy, --bind mounts an already mounted directory elsewhere (as you might have guessed) [20:35] righttt. [20:35] but why would i need to do that. [20:36] ?* [20:36] /proc /sys /dev /dev/pts are access points to system + hardware ... needed for grub to install the menu entry when you chroot into /mnt [20:36] * squishyy *facepalm* [20:36] oh (: [20:36] thanks bro. [20:36] if you don't, when installing linux-image-blah, grub will search in /dev and find nothing [20:37] that makes sense. [20:37] (because /mnt/dev is the new /dev inside the chroot /mnt) [20:38] squishyy, oh, and what sort of 'not a noob' deletes his kernel ? :P [20:38] LOL! [20:38] LMFAO! [20:38] hahahaha [20:39] hah, uhmm yeah. i was trying to delete the old kernel packages [20:39] i must of accidently deleted the other. [20:39] well, i did. [20:39] hah [20:39] :D [20:39] yeah, it finished [20:39] no erros [20:39] errors* [20:39] grub seemed to find / and install OK ? [20:40] well i did what you said... [20:40] let me reboot [20:40] brb [20:40] if so, you should be all safe to reboot mate. ;) [20:42] holy crap it worked. [20:43] squishyy_, well, I am god. [20:43] *cough* [20:43] LOL. [20:43] yeah usually i like [20:43] only listen to people like bodhi in here [20:43] or, nhandler. [20:43] nhandler, ? pfft [20:44] general ubuntu community questions really. [20:45] squishyy_, well I'm part of the council in here ... undercover atm. [20:45] hmmm. who are you ? [20:45] i probably know you. [20:45] mr ibuclaw [20:45] OH MY GOD. [20:46] I'm mostly on the forums though http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=490875 [20:46] yeah yeeah i know who you are. [20:47] i didn't know you were even still active in here gt8 [20:48] well ... I am part of the council [20:49] keep my ear against the wall, make sure teams are performing well, meetings, etc. [20:55] squishyy_: next time you do it, head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484363 ;-0 [20:55] ;-) [20:56] thanks. [20:56] was it a bit more busy tonight? :D I sent some people to here :D [20:57] i had a lot hep with that one, it is refined version - the rough one did work [20:57] squishyy_, I gave phillw most the pointers in that. ;) [20:57] LOL. [20:58] so, gt8 is either ... or .... ;-) [20:59] hmmm [20:59] brb [20:59] and as he's not .... that only leaves ... - gt8 I never knew you had a secret part [21:00] phillw, I have several monikers. [21:00] (I like to see how you lot do in here) [21:00] i will refrain from disclosing it [21:00] only once every 2-3 months though [21:01] It is refreshing to see how new faces are treated [21:01] * phillw is not part of "you lot" am still just a.n. other user :-) [21:02] * ZachK_ is a member though... [21:02] gt8: how are you [21:02] hi ZachK_ didn't notice you lurking there :-) [21:02] ZachK_, splendid now [21:02] hey phillw [21:02] hung over has gone (mostly) [21:03] * ZachK_ is always lurking [21:03] especially when i'm doing wiki [21:03] 21st party yesterday ... had a great Indian [21:03] * phillw ditto, but mainly in #lubuntu [21:03] gt8: ah happy b-day then I assume? [21:04] yes. good times. [21:04] gt8: ah well happy birthday! [21:04] also the first proper meal have had with friends in ~ 2 years [21:04] gt8: happy birthday for yesterday. I trust you do not remember too much of it :p [21:06] back. [21:06] wb squishyy [21:06] welcome squishyy [21:06] ty. [21:07] W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 [21:07] lol what is that, a fingerprint? [21:07] i cant kind the key.. [21:09] squishyy, you can import the key from the ppa page [21:10] or: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:name/ppa [21:10] will do it for you automagically [21:10] yeah i got it now [21:10] whoever invented that tool was a genus. it was a pain having to edit sources then add the key [21:11] what up Raidsong [21:11] well, a layer of security that is... [21:11] hey ZachK_ [21:12] Raidsong: ok dude you have any projects going on? [21:12] nothing just back at my parents for the weekend [21:12] ZachK_, not really [21:12] Raidsong: want to help me with one? [21:13] ZachK_, what kind? [21:13] Raidsong: oh nothing much...just a little wiki work is all [21:16] * squishyy has quit (K-Lined) [21:16] so long and thanks for all the fish [21:35] hi there PD187 [21:36] hello ibuclaw [21:36] PD187: !!! [21:36] ZachK_, ??? [21:37] PD187: you've been AWAY [21:37] ZachK_, iii [21:37] PD187: like really away [21:37] no just silent. [21:37] lol [21:38] been busy moving things around on my desktop [21:38] hopefully the reboots will help my network speed be normal. [21:40] nope. It's the drive. Pity. [22:11] I've got a clean 10.04 install, and noticed that the update notifier is not notifying me when there are updates. If I run the update manager, it finds them and updates without issue. The notifier is set to run in my startup apps. Any ideas why it's not working? [22:12]