[00:58] <drake> So here's my question.  I setup a file server using Ubuntu Server edition following the guild by Xam @ howtoforge.com.  With only a few exceptions to minor tweaks the guide worked perfectly.  The difference is I use a USB terabyte for data storage but that's not an issue.  It works FANTASTIC right now.  I can manage files from any computer in the house (vista xp linuxmint etc).  The USB is mounted as /dev/sdb1 /media/store ntfs 0 0
[00:58] <drake> in my fstab file.  It's sharing the root directory of the disk and users have access to the entire thing.  Now that it's all working, I want to know if anyone knows a way I can not let the entire disk be shared but only select folders off the root for example  /media/store/Music or /media/store/Videos.
[03:56] <bonedragon> I use Ubuntu on a laptop and i would love to know if there is an easy way to configure my machine to not automatically turn on the wireless card.
[04:10] <phillw> bonedragon: within network-manager, you can select the device and turn 'auto' off
[04:11] <phillw> or do you mean not to fire up the WiFi card in the 1st instance?
[04:13] <bonedragon> when i log in, both my wired and my wireless options are automatically enabled..so after i login i uncheck the wireless to save on battery every time
[04:14] <bonedragon> i wish i could save the setting, since its a laptop i turn my machine off alot and have to set it.. i was hoping to fine a non command fix so i don't forget what i did
[04:15] <phillw> i think you can set WiFi to off in BIOS with some of them.
[04:15] <bonedragon> i saw that suggestion on one of my searches, i will have to check next time i boot up
[04:17] <phillw> i can on the laptops I have, there is also sometimes a button either on the front of the laptop, or as a Fn + {some key} that can toggle it.
[04:21] <bonedragon> this laptop used to be vista, when i used the button to disable the wifi it would only stay off like that till i turned my machine off.  my software remedy in windows was to disable the hardware (easy 1 setting fix). My feeling is that there is a way to do the same thing, but it would be a command to disable the turning on of the device, however my ability to follow the more powerful linux...
[04:21] <bonedragon> ...commands is somewhat limited
[04:21] <bonedragon> i have some linux experience but its from like 2 years ago and things have been updated to a nice finish on Ubuntu with the new release.
[04:34] <phillw> bonedragon: I'm trying to set up my skype atm, but a quick dig through the archives has found some one who wanted the WiFi off, I cannot vouch for it as I haven't tried it, but it may help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-844426.html
[04:36] <bonedragon> thanks for the link, i will read throughly before trying anything. thanks for the chat phillw
[04:42] <phillw> bonedragon: if that does not help, then pop over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 have a read through the posts, and feel free to post a question on there.
[04:46] <bonedragon> sweet, bookmarked
[04:56] <ZachK_> welcome Ten-Eight
[04:58] <Ten-Eight> thanks ZachK_
[04:59] <ZachK_> Ten-Eight: and how are you
[04:59] <Ten-Eight> just fine and yourself?
[04:59] <ZachK_> ah ok..
[04:59]  * Ten-Eight is at work for the night
[04:59] <ZachK_> planning/working projects
[04:59] <Ten-Eight> sounds like fun :)
[05:00] <ZachK_> yeah it can be
[05:00] <ZachK_> hub..hmm
[05:01] <ZachK_> Ten-Eight: need help or just hangin out
[05:02] <Ten-Eight> just checking in to see if anything was going on....and to see if I could be of assistance.
[05:02] <Ten-Eight> I check in from time to time.
[05:02] <ZachK_> ah
[05:02] <ZachK_> why don't you just join us then?
[05:03] <Ten-Eight> thanks...I'll hang around for awhile then.
[05:03] <Ten-Eight> been busy here at work...getting a reprieve for now...but will probably get going again shortlly.
[05:04] <ZachK_> i meant join us as in join the team
[05:04] <Ten-Eight> I don't check in enough to become a regular.
[05:04] <stlsaint> sup folks
[05:04] <ZachK_> hey stlsaint
[05:04] <ZachK_> stlsaint: long time no see
[05:06] <stlsaint> ZachK_: ?? i been here everyday for the last week or so
[05:06] <ZachK_> stlsaint: oh you have? kinda meant i haven't spoken with you i guess
[05:07] <phillw> stlsaint: ZachK_has been part time :p   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs
[05:07]  * ZachK_ captures phillw
[05:08] <Ten-Eight> catch you guys later...I'll check in again soon!
[05:08]  * phillw scampers off to #lubuntu :-)
[05:08] <pedro3005> hey phillw
[05:08] <phillw> ho pedro3005
[05:09] <pedro3005> :o
[05:09] <pedro3005> phillw, I am NOT a ho
[05:09] <phillw> -o +i
[05:09] <pedro3005> :)
[05:09] <phillw> soz, different meaning in brazil :-\
[05:09] <pedro3005> No, I was hinting at "hoe"
[05:11] <phillw> pedro3005: do tell me, what is the 'war' going on with topic for ##devil?
[05:11] <pedro3005> phillw, none, I am just completely insane :)
[05:12] <phillw> I'll have to learn how to do change it ;p
[05:12] <phillw> :p
[05:12] <pedro3005> you can't
[05:12] <ZachK_> phillw: topic command is /topic the topic words here
[05:12] <ZachK_> phillw: if you have rights
[05:12] <pedro3005> phillw, Only the pros, i.e. ops :)
[05:13] <ZachK_> pedro3005: who has founder access to ##devil
[05:13] <phillw> ZachK_: I think i have to up my op mode, or summat like that
[05:13] <pedro3005> ZachK_, mohi
[05:14] <ZachK_> phillw: to op you would type /msg chanserv op ##devil phillw
[05:14] <ZachK_> phillw: if you have op rights/flags that is
[05:17] <phillw> i have no idea ZachK_, last time i was a sysop on an irc system they wrote some code to just auto give me what ever thinggies (priveleges) as soon as it sniffed my log in, password and IP address - I have better things to do in life than spen 10 minutes working out to raise priveleges in order to stop a 'bad person'. :-\
[05:18] <pedro3005> I am going to bed guys
[05:18] <pedro3005> goodnight all
[05:18] <phillw> g'nite
[05:18] <phillw> catch u soon
[07:33] <stevek> hi,i have a bios bug which can be resolved by using acpi=off at boot , can i put this option at boot in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:35] <stevek> can anyone please explain wut is 2.6.33-020633rc2-generic and how can i install it ? Do i need to compile it or i can simply install it by update?
[09:40] <meebod> ZachK_: Ping
[09:40] <meebod> Anybody?
[09:41] <meebod> Eh whatever
[17:30] <gt8> you know a distribution is amazing when the release updates include:
[17:30] <gt8> Notable features:
[17:30] <gt8> Grub2 replaces Grub-legacy
[17:30] <gt8> Slim replaces bash login
[17:38] <phillw> gt8: where have you been since April 2009? ;-)
[17:41] <gt8> oh, I dunno ... got quite drunk last night
[17:41] <gt8> next thing I know, it's 2010
[17:52] <phillw> I will keep my views on how they 'launched' Grub2 on to us all quiet ;-)  Yes, it needed doing and is the only way forward. Be careful about getting drunk again as by 2011 we may all be using btrfs :-D
[18:10] <gt8> phillw, oh, I am way ahead of you there...
[18:10] <gt8> by at least a year
[18:12] <gt8> phillw, infact, COW filesystems are pretty much the future of filesystems full stop.
[18:13] <gt8> btrfs wasn't the first for Linux, and it certainly isn't the last - there are other interesting developments on the same idea already in the kernel tree - however each for different application usages.
[18:14] <hanifbaloch> hay guis this HanifBaloch
[18:14] <gt8> hi hanifbaloch
[18:14] <gt8> this gt8
[18:14] <gt8> gt8.awake = true;
[18:14] <mohi2911> lol
[18:15] <hanifbaloch> i need help on upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10
[18:15]  * mohi2911 sets gt8.awake = false;
[18:15] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: you can upgrade to 10.04 too if you wish =]
[18:15] <gt8> mohi2911, baby steps ...
[18:15] <mohi2911> or tell your requirement hanifbaloch
[18:15] <phillw> hi hanifbaloch, you may want to consider making a sperate home and doing a re-install.
[18:16] <phillw> you certainly can go from 9.04 to 9.10, update grub & ext3 -->ext4 (I did it )
[18:16] <hanifbaloch> i cant because it says first you must have 9.10
[18:17] <gt8> hanifbaloch, have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes
[18:17] <phillw> hanifbaloch: indeed, you need to go 9.04 --> 9.10 --> 10.04, but there has been a lot of changes. IMHO I'd say hive off your /home to a partition and do a clean install.
[18:18] <gt8> hanifbaloch, have you installed any applications outside of the ubuntu repositories ?
[18:18] <mohi2911> phillw: cant we do directly from 9.04?? :(
[18:18] <gt8> mohi2911, no
[18:18] <gt8> you can however 8.04 -> 10.04
[18:18] <phillw> mohi2911: only 9.10 and 8.04.4 can go to 10.04
[18:19] <hanifbaloch> i don't know actually but may be bcz i have made ubuntu good for me
[18:19] <hanifbaloch> as windows was
[18:20] <phillw> hanifbaloch: that will most likely be settings, which be saved in your own area. you can get a list of what you have added and check that they are compatible with 10.04
[18:20] <mohi2911> I think I spent lots of time with 8.10 itself. will be upgrading to lucid in days
[18:20] <hanifbaloch> and now i don't want to lose my data as well as the bundle of softwares
[18:20] <phillw> mohi2911: you will not do a direct 8.10 --> 10.04 upgrade
[18:20] <gt8> well, there is nothing wrong with Jaunty. ;)
[18:20] <gt8> isn't it supported for another year ?
[18:21] <mohi2911> phillw: gonna dowload lucid or zenix tonight =]
[18:21] <mohi2911> download*
[18:21] <hanifbaloch> you are right gt but every body is upgrading
[18:21] <phillw> mohi2911: meerkat is in the daily builds, it goes on to the test area tonight :-)
[18:22] <hanifbaloch> mohi my Net is very very slow and can't download that huge thang
[18:22] <gt8> Supported until October 2010
[18:22] <phillw> hanifbaloch: before you consider updating your system, you need to consider how you are going to backup your data
[18:22] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: so you have errors with upgrading to 9.10??
[18:23] <lukjad86> Which is a better format to rip a DVD to, MKV or RMVB?
[18:23] <hanifbaloch> yes mohi you are right
[18:23] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: what you get??
[18:23] <mohi2911> lukjad86: RMVB will not play at all players. so MKV is somewhat ok than RMVB
[18:24] <hanifbaloch> phillw i thought of making a CD
[18:24] <lukjad86> mohi2911 Which will be smaller?
[18:24] <mohi2911> lukjad86: but if you ask me, both are poor :D
[18:24] <lukjad86> mohi2911 heh
[18:24] <hanifbaloch> :'(
[18:25] <mohi2911> lukjad86: they ll vary only bu some MBs and they ll not affect much. MKV is a good choice among those two
[18:26] <hanifbaloch> O.K guys i don't have the menu which logs off and shut down ubuntu what to do
[18:26] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: tell me the result of doing "du -h" in terminal
[18:26] <phillw> hanifbaloch: when you go to update, you really *must* have a backup in case something horrible happens (a power cut 1/2 way through can really mess things up)
[18:26] <collinp> phillw: I've had that happen before.
[18:26] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: tell me the value in the last line and thats enough
[18:27] <hanifbaloch> power problem of my country is the biggest problem
[18:27] <collinp> Luckily, my mad skillz allowed me to fix it without too much trouble.
[18:27] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: where you belong to??
[18:27] <phillw> collinp: I'm in PM with some one to whom that has happened, it also messed his 1TB external drive up, which we were sort of relying on :-(
[18:27] <collinp> Damn. 2x
[18:27] <hanifbaloch> pk
[18:27] <collinp> Damn because you were using it, and damn because it's a 1TB hard drive.
[18:28] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: i am from India =]
[18:28] <phillw> collinp: it's looking up, actually. even though he had it formatted in FAT32
[18:28] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: tell the last line of du -h in terminal
[18:28] <collinp> lolwhat.
[18:29] <hanifbaloch> nice meeting you, do you think is should do du -h
[18:29] <mohi2911> yep. in terminal
[18:29] <mohi2911> and tell me the last value hanifbaloch
[18:29] <hanifbaloch> Record BBC Listen Again programs to MP3 in Ubuntu « Sprayfly_files
[18:29] <lukjad86> Thanks mohi2911
[18:29] <bobo123> if I have linux kernel 2.6.32-22 "linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic" can I remove the -19 and -16 packages? (including "linux-headers-2.6.32-19" and "linux-headers-2.6.32-16") ?
[18:29] <mohi2911> lukjad86: =]
[18:30] <phillw> collinp: when all else fails, and windows cannot resize a win partition, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169551
[18:30] <mohi2911> bobo123: you mean in boot screen??
[18:30] <phillw> bobo123: keep the 19 version
[18:31] <collinp> Windows partitions suck.
[18:31] <hanifbaloch> mohi i am a Baloch not a paki and i love being a Baloch
[18:31] <collinp> I mean, really. I haven't heard the word "defragment" used in relation to Linux in over a year.
[18:31] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: fine and you did what i said??
[18:32] <hanifbaloch>  it shows this ./Record BBC Listen Again programs to MP3 in Ubuntu « Sprayfly_files
[18:32] <bobo123> yeah I don't want them in grub menu, and wonder what this -headers packages is too that isn't removed when i uncheck the -image in synaptic
[18:33] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: you did simply du -h in terminal right??
[18:33] <hanifbaloch> yes
[18:33] <collinp> Headers are there for development, I believe.
[18:34] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: the result i got is 77M
[18:34] <mohi2911> look if you have some values like that
[18:35] <phillw> bobo123: follow http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/need-to-remove-old-versions-of-ubuntu-kernel-466660/  if you are at unsure, then do not carry on, you can end up with no system.
[18:35] <hanifbaloch> and actually it is 425M .
[18:35] <bobo123> ok
[18:35] <mohi2911> phillw: hanifbaloch's home folder is only 425M. ahat to do with installed packages??
[18:36] <mohi2911> what*
[18:36] <phillw> bobo123: remember to do a  sudo update-grub at the end of it all to update your list
[18:36] <phillw> hanifbaloch: you mentioned you had slow internet speed?
[18:37] <bobo123> phillw: ah, almost forgot. thanks
[18:37] <hanifbaloch> yes actually the worst
[18:38] <phillw> is there anyone from who you can download and burn a cd of 700MB of data?
[18:38] <hanifbaloch> it shows 32bits
[18:38] <phillw> 32bits is not your innternet speed
[18:38] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: <phillw> is there anyone from who you can download and burn a cd of 700MB of data?
[18:39] <hanifbaloch> cononical send me ubuntu 10.04 yesterday
[18:40] <hanifbaloch> 32 is the download speed and disconnection is an other prob
[18:40] <phillw> okay, that's really good.
[18:40] <phillw> you have the installation cd
[18:40] <hanifbaloch> yes sir i do
[18:41] <phillw> hanifbaloch: have you used pastebin before?
[18:42] <hanifbaloch> no i didn't
[18:44] <phillw> hmm, okay. do have a cd writer installed and a blank cd-r disk?
[18:44] <bobo123> btw, wouldn't it be more userfriendly if the grub menu only listed the operative systems one have, and if I want to see failsafe modes or alternative kernels I have to press some extra button first?
[18:45] <phillw> bobo123: no, it would not, when you install a new kernel version (the real important bit) and it is unhappy, you need to be able to get hold of the older one. for that reason grub *must* offer the option.
[18:45] <hanifbaloch> :-D
[18:46] <mohi2911> bobo123: its for your recovery purposes. you can re-arrange the order, but dont delete the recovery mode
[18:48] <bobo123> I just want to have recovery mode and check memory stuff hidden behind F8 or something :-)
[18:48] <mohi2911> bobo123: what are all the distros you are using in your machune??
[18:48] <mohi2911> i ask about OS
[18:51] <phillw> bobo123: can i recommend something to you, just in case you get a bit carried away .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484363  make sure you do run the update grub, if you have gotten a bit carried away, that's how to get it back
[18:54] <hanifbaloch> :'(
[18:55] <mohi2911> hanifbaloch: follow  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 and do you have a CD-RW???
[18:56] <hanifbaloch> that's why i was weeping my CD-RW is faulty and stops in the mid
[18:56] <mohi2911> ah
[18:58] <bobo123> mohi2911:  just now I have only WindowsXP and Ubuntu10.04 and I think that would be a perfect short menu for most people (even though I want to have win98+dos+aros+kolibri+etc too :-)
[18:59] <mohi2911> bobo123: you want win on the second line of your Grub list on boot. right??
[19:00] <hanifbaloch> bobo are you a nasa scientist
[19:01] <hanifbaloch> bcz combination of these all can only be on a super computer in nasa
[19:01] <hanifbaloch> it's just my point of view hummm please don't mind it
[19:01] <gt8> bobo123, that sort of "extra menus" feature was possible with grub 0.97 ...
[19:02] <bobo123> yup... a perfect grub2 menu would be a small square in the middle of the screen with just the text "Ubuntu 10.04" and "Windows XP" on it and a text in the bottom border press [F8] for recovery modes (that will make the square larger and add the other modes indented under the main ones (perhaps winXP's failsafe mode too)
[19:02] <hanifbaloch> mohi what if i take my installation CD to a friend and copy its all folders in a USB
[19:03] <hanifbaloch> is it a possible way for ubuntu installation procees
[19:04] <mohi2911> phillw: can hanifbaloch upgrade directly to 10.04 with a live USB??
[19:04] <phillw> hanifbaloch: if your cd-rw is not working, then you will need to make a seperate /home area to store your information while you re-install. If you cannot download all the 9.10 system because of you internet connection, then making a seperate /home is essential. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome has the instructions
[19:04] <mohi2911> gt8: ^^
[19:05] <phillw> mohi2911: you can *not* upgrade from 9.04 --> 10.04
[19:05] <mohi2911> ok ok :D
[19:06] <hanifbaloch> i have downloaded one mirror but its not upgrading my system to 9.10
[19:07] <hanifbaloch> its about 689.6 MB
[19:10] <phillw> hanifbaloch: my best suggestion, and one I will help you with, is to follow http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome after that is done, we can back up your data / themes / bits you've added on and then put them back onto your 10.04 installation. without a working cd-rw drive you only have the choice of doing it that way or lose all your data.
[19:11] <phillw> or stay with 9.04, there's nothing 'wrong' with 9.04 - people still run 7.10 as they like it.
[19:11] <holstein> no updates though
[19:11] <holstein> eventually
[19:12] <phillw> holstein: and that is a problem for a fully working system ?
[19:12] <holstein> define working
[19:12] <holstein> do the lights come on
[19:12] <holstein> sure
[19:12] <phillw> Win 98 works very well, when was that last updated? :p
[19:12] <holstein> is there a security risk?
[19:12] <holstein> maybe
[19:13] <holstein> phillw: windows is a security risk though
[19:13] <holstein> out of the box
[19:13] <holstein> thats a given
[19:13] <phillw> holstein: but we'd have to find gainful employment for all the virus writers :p
[19:13] <hanifbaloch> and my problem is that i love moving not staying
[19:13] <holstein> would i personally be concerned about running ubuntu 7.10 without security updates
[19:13] <holstein> nah
[19:14] <phillw> I'd prefer 6.04 over Win :-D
[19:14] <phillw> hanifbaloch: ^^ read my post to you ^^
[19:15] <hanifbaloch> phillw i did
[19:16] <phillw> hanifbaloch: that is the best we can do. it is now your decision as to what to do.
[19:17] <AmericanHipster> Can anyone help me with this error that oocurs when I try to update my system? "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/do-core/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found"
[19:17] <gt8> AmericanHipster, looks like do-core doesn't have a ppa for Lucid
[19:18] <hanifbaloch> o.k what if i quit saving my data and fresh install 10.04 but? with out a CD drive?
[19:19] <AmericanHipster> gt8: Ahh, I see now. Thank you!
[19:26] <mohi2911> gt8: you on zenix now??
[19:26] <mohi2911> and hiya hobgoblin
[19:27] <hobgoblin> o/
[19:28] <mohi2911> how are ya hobgoblin!!
[19:29] <hobgoblin> pretty good ty just reading the fud in the channel from the logs :)
[19:29] <gt8> mohi2911, bodhi wanted me to have a look.
[19:30] <mohi2911> gt8: i think after 5 hours i also will be on it =]
[19:30] <mohi2911> i am changing my 8.10 distro after an year =]
[19:31] <gt8> dunno how am gonna put together the icon theme he wanted...
[19:31] <gt8> it looks nice ... but is severely incomplete
[19:31] <gt8> I mean ... it is not even organised into any sort of structure
[19:31] <mohi2911> hmmm he asked one day  about newly designed icons i think
[19:32] <gt8> mohi2911, http://taubrey.deviantart.com/art/Zenicons-Version-0-2-148281888
[19:32] <mohi2911> ohyeah. i saw it already
[19:32] <gt8> if you know anything that may go well with them, do let us know. ;)
[20:00] <ZachK_> welcome Scunizi
[20:01] <gt8> shoop pap
[20:02] <gt8> I have no clue what that means...
[20:05] <ZachK_> gt8: ok
[20:25] <squishyy> fuck.
[20:27] <mohi2911> squishyy: words!!
[20:27] <squishyy> i was hoping bodhi was in here
[20:27] <mohi2911> he s not availabel right now
[20:28] <gt8> squishyy, why do you need bodhi?
[20:29] <squishyy> because i accidently deleted the kernel packages from ubuntu
[20:29] <squishyy> and i'm in the livecd trying to find out what is the best way to fix it
[20:29] <gt8> squishyy, ok, which partition has your ubuntu install on ?
[20:30] <squishyy>  /dev/sda1
[20:30] <gt8> you'll need to mount it, and then use the command 'chroot' to change root into it.
[20:30] <gt8> squishyy, ok, you open a terminal, you can - in sequence:
[20:30] <gt8> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:30] <squishyy> gt8:
[20:30] <squishyy> i'm not a noob.
[20:31] <gt8> =)
[20:31] <squishyy> lol (:
[20:31] <gt8> D:
[20:31] <gt8> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[20:31] <gt8> ^^ do the same for /proc /sys and /dev/pts
[20:32] <gt8> then:
[20:32] <gt8> sudo chroot /mnt
[20:32] <gt8> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic # or whatever...
[20:33] <gt8> (actually, you can omit the 'sudo' bit in the last one)
[20:33] <gt8> squishyy, ^^
[20:34] <squishyy> i think it's actually working (:
[20:34] <squishyy> thanks.
[20:34] <squishyy> but
[20:34] <squishyy> what was all the mount --bind stuff for?
[20:34]  * squishyy has never tried to chroot, (never needed to)
[20:35] <gt8> squishyy, --bind mounts an already mounted directory elsewhere (as you might have guessed)
[20:35] <squishyy> righttt.
[20:35] <squishyy> but why would i need to do that.
[20:36] <squishyy> ?*
[20:36] <gt8> /proc /sys /dev /dev/pts are access points to system + hardware ... needed for grub to install the menu entry when you chroot into /mnt
[20:36]  * squishyy *facepalm*
[20:36] <squishyy> oh (:
[20:36] <squishyy> thanks bro.
[20:36] <gt8> if you don't, when installing linux-image-blah, grub will search in /dev and find nothing
[20:37] <squishyy> that makes sense.
[20:37] <gt8> (because /mnt/dev is the new /dev inside the chroot /mnt)
[20:38] <gt8> squishyy, oh, and what sort of 'not a noob' deletes his kernel ? :P
[20:38] <squishyy> LOL!
[20:38] <squishyy> LMFAO!
[20:38] <squishyy> hahahaha
[20:39] <squishyy> hah, uhmm yeah. i was trying to delete the old kernel packages
[20:39] <squishyy> i must of accidently deleted the other.
[20:39] <squishyy> well, i did.
[20:39] <squishyy> hah
[20:39] <gt8> :D
[20:39] <squishyy> yeah, it finished
[20:39] <squishyy> no erros
[20:39] <squishyy> errors*
[20:39] <gt8> grub seemed to find / and install OK ?
[20:40] <squishyy> well i did what you said...
[20:40] <squishyy> let me reboot
[20:40] <squishyy> brb
[20:40] <gt8> if so, you should be all safe to reboot mate. ;)
[20:42] <squishyy_> holy crap it worked.
[20:43] <gt8> squishyy_, well, I am god.
[20:43] <gt8> *cough*
[20:43] <squishyy_> LOL.
[20:43] <squishyy_> yeah usually i like
[20:43] <squishyy_> only listen to people like bodhi in here
[20:43] <squishyy_> or, nhandler.
[20:43] <gt8> nhandler, ? pfft
[20:44] <squishyy_> general ubuntu community questions really.
[20:45] <gt8> squishyy_, well I'm part of the council in here ... undercover atm.
[20:45] <squishyy_> hmmm. who are you ?
[20:45] <squishyy_> i probably know you.
[20:45] <gt8> mr ibuclaw
[20:45] <squishyy_> OH MY GOD.
[20:46] <gt8> I'm mostly on the forums though http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=490875
[20:46] <squishyy_> yeah yeeah i know who you are.
[20:47] <squishyy_> i didn't know you were even still active in here gt8
[20:48] <gt8> well ... I am part of the council
[20:49] <gt8> keep my ear against the wall, make sure teams are performing well, meetings, etc.
[20:55] <phillw> squishyy_: next time you do it, head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1484363  ;-0
[20:55] <phillw> ;-)
[20:56] <squishyy_> thanks.
[20:56] <Phrea> was it a bit more busy tonight? :D I sent some people to here :D
[20:57] <phillw> i had a lot hep with that one, it is refined version - the rough one did work
[20:57] <gt8> squishyy_, I gave phillw most the pointers in that. ;)
[20:57] <squishyy_> LOL.
[20:58] <phillw> so, gt8 is either ... or  .... ;-)
[20:59] <squishyy_> hmmm
[20:59] <squishyy_> brb
[20:59] <phillw> and as he's not .... that only leaves ... - gt8 I never knew you had a secret part
[21:00] <gt8> phillw, I have several monikers.
[21:00] <gt8> (I like to see how you lot do in here)
[21:00] <phillw> i will refrain from disclosing it
[21:00] <gt8> only once every 2-3 months though
[21:01] <gt8> It is refreshing to see how new faces are treated
[21:01]  * phillw is not part of "you lot" am still just a.n. other user :-)
[21:02]  * ZachK_ is a member though...
[21:02] <ZachK_> gt8: how are you
[21:02] <phillw> hi ZachK_ didn't notice you lurking there :-)
[21:02] <gt8> ZachK_, splendid now
[21:02] <ZachK_> hey phillw
[21:02] <gt8> hung over has gone (mostly)
[21:03]  * ZachK_ is always lurking
[21:03] <ZachK_> especially when i'm doing wiki
[21:03] <gt8> 21st party yesterday ... had a great Indian
[21:03]  * phillw ditto, but mainly in #lubuntu
[21:03] <ZachK_> gt8: ah happy b-day then I assume?
[21:04] <gt8> yes. good times.
[21:04] <ZachK_> gt8: ah well happy birthday!
[21:04] <gt8> also the first proper meal have had with friends in ~ 2 years
[21:04] <phillw> gt8: happy birthday for yesterday. I trust you do not remember too much of it :p
[21:06] <squishyy> back.
[21:06] <phillw> wb squishyy
[21:06] <ZachK_> welcome squishyy
[21:06] <squishyy> ty.
[21:07] <squishyy> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[21:07] <squishyy> lol what is that, a fingerprint?
[21:07] <squishyy> i cant kind the key..
[21:09] <gt8> squishyy, you can import the key from the ppa page
[21:10] <gt8> or:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:name/ppa
[21:10] <gt8> will do it for you automagically
[21:10] <squishyy> yeah i got it now
[21:10] <squishyy> whoever invented that tool was a genus. it was a pain having to edit sources then add the key
[21:11] <ZachK_> what up Raidsong
[21:11] <gt8> well, a layer of security that is...
[21:11] <Raidsong> hey ZachK_
[21:12] <ZachK_> Raidsong: ok dude you have any projects going on?
[21:12] <Raidsong> nothing just back at my parents for the weekend
[21:12] <Raidsong> ZachK_, not really
[21:12] <ZachK_> Raidsong: want to help me with one?
[21:13] <Raidsong> ZachK_, what kind?
[21:13] <ZachK_> Raidsong: oh nothing much...just a little wiki work is all
[21:16] <ibuclaw> * squishyy has quit (K-Lined)
[21:16] <ibuclaw> so long and thanks for all the fish
[21:35] <ibuclaw> hi there PD187
[21:36] <PD187> hello ibuclaw
[21:36] <ZachK_> PD187: !!!
[21:36] <PD187> ZachK_, ???
[21:37] <ZachK_> PD187: you've been AWAY
[21:37] <ibuclaw> ZachK_, iii
[21:37] <ZachK_> PD187: like really away
[21:37] <PD187> no just silent.
[21:37] <ZachK_> lol
[21:38] <PD187> been busy moving things around on my desktop
[21:38] <PD187> hopefully the reboots will help my network speed be normal.
[21:40] <PD187> nope.  It's the drive.  Pity.
[22:11] <moonrock> I've got a clean 10.04 install, and noticed that the update notifier is not notifying me when there are updates. If I run the update manager, it finds them and updates without issue. The notifier is set to run in my startup apps. Any ideas why it's not working?
[22:12] <phillw> moonrock: you can configure update manager as to how you want to be told about updates
[22:33] <moonrock> I've got it configured to check daily and only notify about available updates, but I never get notifications.
[22:34] <phillw> moonrock: i think only security updates are coming out atm, as there is a release of 10.04.1 due
[22:35] <ibuclaw> pekwm is nice
[22:35] <phillw> I pull them in as they turn up, but you must enable "proposed" to do that and it could make the system unstable. with 10.04 being a LTS, they may be keeping them back
[22:35] <phillw> hi ibuclaw
[22:36] <moonrock> Thanks, phillw
[22:37] <phillw> ibuclaw: would be able to tell you better
[22:53] <phillw> hi, if apt-get install *package* puts stuff on, what is the equivalent apt-get to tell it to get the heck off my computer?
[22:55] <paultag> phillw, hehe, do you want to get rid of conf files too?
[22:55] <paultag> phillw, it's either remove or purge, remove will remove the binary files ( but not conf files ) and purge will remove conf files as well
[22:55] <paultag> phillw, you can run a clean and an auto-clean to clean up the downloaded .deb as well :)
[22:59] <paultag> phillw, all good?
[23:00] <phillw> looks good, i wish it was a ppa :-\
[23:00] <paultag> phillw, what app was it?
[23:04] <phillw> paultag: it's okay, i was advised to put pulseaudio on for skype support & it didn't work, it sill could not 'see' my microphone, i should have been concentrating on alsa
[23:05] <paultag> ahha
[23:06] <phillw> i can now head off and look up why my microphone is not working :-0
[23:06] <ibuclaw> phillw, tell moonrock better about what ?
[23:06] <ibuclaw> paultag, son of a gun! :P
[23:07] <paultag> ibuclaw, oh what the hell?
[23:07] <phillw> ibuclaw: (22:11:40) moonrock: I've got a clean 10.04 install, and noticed that the update notifier is not notifying me when there are updates. If I run the update manager, it finds them and updates without issue. The notifier is set to run in my startup apps. Any ideas why it's not working?
[23:08] <phillw> i suggested it be that certain updates are being held back for 10.04.1 and he would need to enable 'proposed'; but that could make the system unstable.
[23:19] <ibuclaw> paultag, you missed he who shall not be named ;)
[23:20] <paultag> oh lawdy
[23:21] <ibuclaw> is he actually banned from FreeNode ?
[23:24] <ibuclaw> phillw, sorry... I've just looked at your question
[23:24] <PD187> if it's who I think it is, it's a K-Line
[23:24] <ibuclaw> yes, he did ... but am not sure for what
[23:24] <ibuclaw> he wasn't too much of a nuance in this channel - for once
[23:25] <ibuclaw> nhandler, may have done it behind the scenes after I tipped him off
[23:25] <ibuclaw> if so, /me hugs nhandler :)
[23:26] <ibuclaw> phillw, they turned off update notifying in Jaunty or Karmic iirc
[23:26] <ibuclaw> hello wernerx
[23:26] <wernerx> hello
[23:26] <wernerx> i want some help from you
[23:27] <ibuclaw> from me?
[23:27] <ibuclaw> :)
[23:27] <wernerx> if you can help me with a script
[23:27] <ibuclaw> wernerx, listening
[23:27] <wernerx> i have a script to install many apps
[23:27] <ibuclaw> phillw, Ubuntu instead has the update-notifier just pop-up infront of you whenever a security update appears
[23:27] <ibuclaw> phillw, this behaviour can be changed in gconf though
[23:28] <wernerx> but i comment some lines with the sign #
[23:28] <wernerx> all the apps before the # sign are installed ,but those after that sign are ignored.Why?
[23:29] <ibuclaw> # is a comment. It is ignored by the shell parser
[23:30] <wernerx> this is my script :#!/bin/bash
[23:30] <wernerx> #######################################################################
[23:30] <wernerx> # Ubuntu Apps Install 		
[23:30] <wernerx> #######################################################################
[23:30] <wernerx> echo "[*] Installing Gnome Apps"
[23:30] <wernerx> sudo aptitude install build-essential checkinstall devscripts dh-make libxml-parser-perl
[23:30] <wernerx> # Archiving Software
[23:30] <wernerx> unace rar unrar zip unzip p7zip-full p7zip-rar xdeview uudeview arj cabextract xarchive
[23:30] <ibuclaw> oic
[23:31] <wernerx> everything that is before # Archining Software is installing
[23:31] <ibuclaw> wernerx, newlines == new command in bash
[23:32] <drubin> wernerx: you can just end the line of \
[23:32] <wernerx> well how can I keep that # commented line and in the same time to make linux install the apps that are written after #?
[23:32] <drubin> that tells bash the next line is part of the next command.
[23:32] <wernerx> how?
[23:32] <drubin> not sure it will work with #comments
[23:33] <drubin> wernerx: try sudo ap..... -perl \
[23:33] <drubin> #archivce stuff
[23:33] <drubin> unace .....xarchive
[23:33] <drubin> wernerx: Or simply put it in a string var.
[23:34] <wernerx> string var?
[23:34] <drubin> APPS="build-essential........"
[23:35] <drubin> #archive stuff
[23:35] <ibuclaw> drubin++
[23:35] <drubin> APPS="$APPS unrar....."
[23:35] <ibuclaw> drubin--
[23:35] <ibuclaw> :)
[23:35] <drubin> the sudo aptitude install $APPS
[23:35] <drubin> ibuclaw: what did I do now? is there a better way to append strings in bahs?
[23:36] <wernerx> thank you ,i'll try it rigt now
[23:36] <drubin> no first listen to ibuclaw
[23:37] <wernerx> ibuclaw,please tell me if the advice from drubin is good
[23:37] <wernerx> will work his solution?
[23:38] <drubin> wernerx: it wont break any thing... but he said drubin -- so I asssume he has a *better* solution
[23:38] <ibuclaw> drubin, I'd rather keep it separate if I intend to make a distinction between the two
[23:38] <wernerx> writing APPS=" in front of every applications lines?
[23:38] <ibuclaw> wernerx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/441513/
[23:39] <drubin> ok his way is better ;-p
[23:40] <ibuclaw> drubin, and you are the php developer between us...
[23:40] <drubin> but it uses 2 variables so it much much much much much more work :)
[23:40] <ibuclaw> LOL
[23:40] <drubin> ok need to get off my phone now.
[23:40] <ibuclaw> drubin, kk
[23:41] <drubin> latency is killing me :) but hope you get sorted wernerx
[23:41] <ibuclaw> wernerx, oh, and why the "echo Installing Gnome Apps" ?
[23:41] <wernerx> that line that start with echo i did copy from another script and i did think that it will display that message
[23:41] <ibuclaw> especially when none of the packages listed are gnome apps....
[23:42] <ibuclaw> (talk about telling users lies)