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ubuntujenkinsmorning09:17
thorwilmorning!09:24
ubuntujenkinshey thorwil09:27
* thorwil studies http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/10:20
nisshhthorwil: you know how you made that icon for me last week? well that was for my app on launchpad, do you mind if i put you in the credits under artwork?11:17
thorwilnisshh: thanks, but don't bother. no credits for a quick job without even knowing the context ;11:18
nisshhthorwil: fair enough, just thought id ask :)11:19
thorwilnisshh: what does you app do, actually?11:19
nisshhthorwil: https://edge.launchpad.net/pytask11:20
nisshhread the description11:20
ubuntujenkinsnisshh: have you got a ppa yet?11:20
nisshhubuntujenkins: no, the next release will be in one though11:21
nisshhhaving problems with quickly and ppa's right now, will be good to go soon11:21
ubuntujenkinsdo you want a hand with the ppa?11:21
nisshhnext release = sometime in june11:21
nisshhubuntujenkins: nah, its cool11:22
thorwilcool11:22
ubuntujenkinscool, give us a shout if you do :)11:22
nisshhubuntujenkins: no probs11:22
nisshhubuntujenkins: will do, i mean :)11:22
nisshhubuntujenkins: the latest code in the trunk works great now, you can try it if you like11:41
ubuntujenkinsnisshh: i will give it a go11:42
nisshhubuntujenkins: cool, when you do, let me know what you think11:42
ubuntujenkinswill do11:45
ubuntujenkinsnisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/441300/11:48
nisshhubuntujenkins: oh, crap sorry would have told you first, you need to install these packages first:11:51
ubuntujenkinsno problem11:52
nisshhdesktopcouch, python-desktopcouch and python-desktopcouch-records should be all you need11:53
ubuntujenkinsI have them already11:53
nisshhubuntujenkins: ah, i know, you need quickly-widgets too11:54
nisshhforgot that one11:54
ubuntujenkinsok installed it and i now get http://paste.ubuntu.com/441303/11:56
nisshhhmmm, gimme a minute11:57
ubuntujenkinssure :)11:57
nisshhare you using the setup.py file to install?11:57
ubuntujenkinsi ran "sudo python setup.py install"11:58
nisshhok11:58
nisshhubuntujenkins: which revision did you grab of lp?11:59
nisshhubuntujenkins: because i just did some recent fixes, the latest is r9512:01
ubuntujenkinsi have just pulled 9512:01
ubuntujenkinscan i unstall the old one? or just install over it12:01
nisshhi would uninstall the old one12:02
ubuntujenkinshow?12:02
nisshhsynaptic -> origin -> local -> pytask12:03
nisshhdo a complete removal12:03
ubuntujenkinsits not in synaptic, its not a package12:03
nisshhubuntujenkins: oops i forgot12:05
nisshhubuntujenkins: yea, i get the same error, but only when i use the setup.py file12:05
nisshhif i build a deb its fine12:06
nisshhgive me a minute12:06
nisshhi think i might know whats wrong12:08
nisshhits a problem with the setup.py file itself12:08
ubuntujenkinsI like to find strange bugs :P12:09
nisshhhehe, i think its because distutils.auto doesnt like .desktop.in files, only .desktop files12:11
ubuntujenkinswhat do i run to make a package?12:11
nisshhwell if you have the .quickly file and quickly installed you can run quickly package to create deb package12:15
nisshhbut hangon i might have something here12:15
* ubuntujenkins like quickly12:16
nisshhcool12:19
nisshhhmmmm, i cant work it out12:22
nisshhi think i know why its doing it12:22
nisshhbut its not doing what i want it to, hehe12:22
nisshhubuntujenkins: are you able to just generate your own deb file for now?12:23
ubuntujenkinsquickly packages doesn't work as there is no debian folder.12:23
nisshhubuntujenkins: it should generate one12:23
nisshhits quickly package without the 's' too12:24
nisshhhang on a sec12:24
ubuntujenkinsit made one this time but i had to run debuild to make the package12:25
nisshhright ok12:25
nisshhill push r96 with its own debian directory12:26
ubuntujenkinstheres also a permisson error on the build folder in the branch12:26
nisshhubuntujenkins: i know i got that too its right protected for some reason12:26
nisshhwrite protected i mean12:26
ubuntujenkinshmm i can buld a source package for a ppa but not a package12:27
ubuntujenkinsdone it there was a problem with the permsions on po and pytask.desktop.in12:28
ubuntujenkinsthis looks much better tahn the first release12:29
nisshhubuntujenkins: yea, it is, how did you resolve the permissions error?12:30
ubuntujenkinssudo chmod -R oug+rwx *12:30
ubuntujenkinsI think the "complete?"  colum should be called "status"12:31
ubuntujenkinsor not12:31
ubuntujenkinsbut it shoul be narower12:31
ubuntujenkins*should, *narrower12:32
nisshhubuntujenkins: yea i cant (or dont know how?) control the width of columns yet12:32
ubuntujenkinsare you using glade?12:32
nisshhsort of, quickly uses gtkbuilder and the glade app for editing12:33
ubuntujenkinshmm at a glance i can't work it out in glade.12:35
ubuntujenkinsI like the calender that apears when you want a date12:35
nisshhubuntujenkins: yea, rick spencer helped me with two new column types12:36
nisshhubuntujenkins: if you run: sudo python setup.py clean, it should remove the old version12:36
nisshhill have a chat to rick if he comes on a bit later about these errors, since quickly generated the files i have no idea why they arent working12:37
ubuntujenkinsthansk, I am going to do some more revision. Have fun with it. I think setting contexts or projects would be a good colum12:38
nisshhthanks for trying it out, and yes a projects column is in the works12:38
nisshhif you look on lp, 0.4 will have launchpadlib integration12:39
ubuntujenkinsno problem ;)12:39
nisshhthat is, it will if i ever get these errors fixed :)12:39
hannieI have read the style-guide, but I cannot find \acronym{text}14:50
hannieIn Duth we write cd, not CD, so is it \acronym{cd} or \acronym{CD} in the translation?14:51
hannie*Dutch14:51
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk: ping ^15:00
nisshhhannie: if you use cd instead of CD, the glossary entry for Live CD wont work because there will then be no reference to Live CD in the manual15:02
nisshhsame with the index i thinkk15:03
hannieOk, I am glad you answered this for me.15:13
nisshhno probs15:14
hanniebtw, the style-guide is very useful. Thanks to  Kevin Godby15:14
nisshhyea, hes a frigging genious15:15
nisshhgenius15:15
nisshh:)15:15
hannieAre you a programmer?15:15
nisshhyes15:15
nisshhpython15:15
nisshhnot my day job though15:16
nisshhmore like beloved hobby15:16
hannieThat's how it always begins15:16
nisshhhehe15:16
hanniesee you, I am going to translate again15:16
nisshhcya15:17
thorwilgodbyk: seen http://www.stixfonts.org/ ?19:31
godbykthorwil: no small caps.. that's a bummer.19:54
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c7pgodbyk: ping22:59
godbykHey, c7p23:04
godbykIlya emailed me back about the license stuff.23:04
godbykLet me forward it to you.23:04
c7pgodbyk: ok23:04
godbykBasically, we need to use English license for this first edition. We're waiting on the Creative Commons people to get their act together with the translated licenses.23:05
c7pgodbyk: no problem, we can use the license in english and before it, there can be the link of the license in greek. So for lucid-e1 we do this.23:11
godbykIf you want to write a paragraph that gives a brief explanation and a link to the Greek version, we can add that in pretty easily.23:13
godbyk(We've been waiting on the CC lawyers for a while. I hope they get things sorted in time for the next edition.)23:13
c7pSure. Can i fix the bug with the urls that I was telling you (on a previous mail) ?23:15
godbykSure, go ahead.23:16
c7pgodbyk: lol, now I see the ps xD I promise not pinging you from now on frequently :P23:23
godbykc7p: lol. no worries. that was just to get a quick response from Ilya. :)23:23
godbykI've been having to sit in meetings and do stuff on campus a lot more due to this new job, though.  So if you don't get a quick response from me, I'm either away from my computer or sleeping.  But I try to eventually get back to everyone. :)23:24
c7pgodbyk: don't worry I think everyone understands the situation. It must be tiring ..! Have you thought of taking one-week-vacation (I'm talking about the project)?23:27
godbykWell, I will be taking a week off at the end of June/beginning of July for a LaTeX conference.  (Yeah, that's my idea of a vacation!) :)23:28
c7pif that calm you why not23:31
godbykI think it's going to be fun. And I'll probably learn a lot.23:34
godbykYou can see some of the presentations they'll have: http://tug.org/tug2010/program.html23:36
godbykA few of them will be handy and relevant to the stuff we do with our manual.23:36
c7p2^5 anniversary hehe. I can't understand every single one presentation purpose, but the whole conference concept is exiting. I hope you have a great time23:40

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