| hairyman | olla pablo1 que tall ! hairyman is back .yesterday i didn't have anough time to read all the ardour stuff , but i'm really happy about the link you send me . thanks !!! | 14:36 |
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| hairyman | so pablo1 , you might be not online or reading . I gonna keep studying the adour manual , and then i might talk to you again . see ya . | 14:42 |
| Pablo1 | hi | 15:20 |
| Pablo1 | hairyman: I am glad I heped you! Tchüss | 15:21 |
| bluenode | hi | 19:16 |
| holstein | hey bluenode | 19:16 |
| bluenode | I have a question about main difference between ubuntu studio and standard ubuntu | 19:16 |
| bluenode | in kernel | 19:17 |
| holstein | the short answer is | 19:17 |
| holstein | nothing | 19:17 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation | 19:17 |
| bluenode | but this "low latency" | 19:17 |
| holstein | you might learn something from reading this | 19:17 |
| holstein | the kernel section | 19:17 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 19:18 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio 10.04 ships with a generic kernel | 19:18 |
| bluenode | thanks | 19:18 |
| holstein | bluenode: i suggest to users | 19:18 |
| bluenode | I have been using ubuntu studio 7.04 | 19:18 |
| holstein | that they try the generic one | 19:18 |
| holstein | and then move up as needed | 19:18 |
| holstein | if latency is an issue | 19:18 |
| holstein | bluenode: thats great, are you on lucid now? | 19:19 |
| bluenode | in 7.04 i noticed the faster response | 19:19 |
| bluenode | I am now on 8.04 | 19:19 |
| bluenode | LTS | 19:19 |
| holstein | cool | 19:19 |
| holstein | hardy is pretty sweet | 19:19 |
| bluenode | and going to install 10.04 in hours | 19:20 |
| bluenode | but will make dual boot with 8.04 | 19:20 |
| holstein | hope you enjoy | 19:20 |
| holstein | bluenode: i think thats a great idea | 19:20 |
| holstein | keep the old OS around for backup | 19:20 |
| bluenode | many programs i use are working with strange configurations in 8.04 | 19:20 |
| bluenode | so i suspect that new system will not run them | 19:21 |
| bluenode | but recently all new versions of software requires new libraries | 19:21 |
| holstein | i guess that depends on the apps | 19:22 |
| holstein | some of them really have not changed much in years | 19:22 |
| holstein | others are TOTALLY differetn | 19:22 |
| holstein | different* | 19:22 |
| bluenode | i use more graphics than audio | 19:22 |
| holstein | AH | 19:22 |
| bluenode | for example wacom | 19:22 |
| holstein | well, i think you'll find the updates very helpful | 19:23 |
| holstein | i feel thats where the most developement has been noticable | 19:23 |
| holstein | BUT i have no first hand experience really | 19:23 |
| * holstein is an audio guy | 19:23 | |
| bluenode | i am graphics | 19:24 |
| bluenode | but need audio for projects | 19:24 |
| bluenode | -not for recording from environment | 19:24 |
| holstein | im interested in what you think | 19:24 |
| bluenode | only softsynth | 19:24 |
| holstein | coming from the last LTS to the new one | 19:25 |
| holstein | let us know :) | 19:25 |
| bluenode | ok i will report | 19:25 |
| bluenode | but i have on my hdd downloaded only ubuntu "standard" 10.04 | 19:25 |
| bluenode | and must download studio version, | 19:26 |
| holstein | check out | 19:26 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 19:26 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 19:26 |
| bluenode | the only thing that bother me is "standarization" with normal ubuntu | 19:26 |
| holstein | you can use the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromHardy | 19:26 |
| bluenode | the compilation and software writing | 19:26 |
| holstein | hardy upgrade info | 19:26 |
| bluenode | upgrade - means that the new system will download on top of 8.04? | 19:27 |
| holstein | i usually do sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt | 19:27 |
| holstein | nah | 19:27 |
| bluenode | - i will rather burn new dvd | 19:27 |
| holstein | you can add whatever metapackages you want to the normal lucid install | 19:28 |
| bluenode | i tried this once, but this broke my system | 19:28 |
| holstein | yeah? | 19:28 |
| bluenode | i have edubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu desktops | 19:28 |
| bluenode | on one system | 19:28 |
| bluenode | and this was too much | 19:29 |
| holstein | you dont have to get the ubuntu studio desktop | 19:29 |
| holstein | the themes | 19:29 |
| holstein | thats what borked it | 19:29 |
| holstein | i say | 19:30 |
| holstein | the ubuntustudio-desktop metapackage | 19:30 |
| bluenode | that is possible. | 19:30 |
| holstein | bascially | 19:30 |
| holstein | you can just install what you want/use | 19:30 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install blender ardour jack linux-rt | 19:30 |
| holstein | that kind of thing | 19:30 |
| bluenode | i wish to avoid redundancy | 19:30 |
| holstein | thats all ubuntu studio is basically | 19:31 |
| holstein | a bundle of packages | 19:31 |
| bluenode | these packages from synaptic, | 19:31 |
| bluenode | and this kernel latency? | 19:31 |
| holstein | from synaptic | 19:31 |
| bluenode | is only needded for external audio? | 19:31 |
| holstein | or apt | 19:31 |
| holstein | however your comfotable searching/installing | 19:32 |
| holstein | bluenode: you probably dont need the linux-rt package | 19:32 |
| holstein | that was just an example | 19:32 |
| holstein | im just saying, you can download aind install only the software you use | 19:32 |
| bluenode | i use lmms | 19:33 |
| bluenode | for anything audio | 19:33 |
| bluenode | and audacity | 19:33 |
| holstein | thats a great example | 19:33 |
| holstein | i dont think lmms is in the metapackage anyways | 19:33 |
| bluenode | this is rather minimal, but lmms is very user-friendly | 19:33 |
| bluenode | with low effort someone can make track that resemble takkyu ishino music:P | 19:34 |
| holstein | SO you can do sudo apt-get install lmms blender audactiy | 19:34 |
| bluenode | my audio is only for "background" | 19:34 |
| bluenode | ok. | 19:34 |
| holstein | you dont need the 1GB+ of audio apps that you dont use | 19:35 |
| bluenode | there is so many... | 19:35 |
| holstein | yup | 19:35 |
| holstein | all kinds of plugins | 19:36 |
| bluenode | ubuntu studio is offical, openartistlinux is not- | 19:36 |
| bluenode | it uses 9.10 | 19:36 |
| bluenode | just thinking | 19:37 |
| holstein | thats something to consider | 19:38 |
| bluenode | i am dedicated ubuntu user | 19:38 |
| holstein | :) | 19:38 |
| bluenode | earlier i used mandrake | 19:38 |
| bluenode | then switched to ubuntu around 7.04 studio | 19:39 |
| holstein | thats about when i found it too | 19:39 |
| bluenode | 7.04 alllowed me to plug my wacom | 19:40 |
| bluenode | without any problems, standard ubuntu required fightting with xorg.conf | 19:40 |
| holstein | interesting | 19:40 |
| bluenode | -of course i will let know how it work in 10.04 | 19:40 |
| holstein | you can probably find those changes somewhere | 19:41 |
| holstein | ALSO | 19:41 |
| holstein | maybe the RT kernel was more friendly or updated | 19:41 |
| holstein | at that time | 19:41 |
| bluenode | it was very responsive | 19:42 |
| bluenode | much more than 8.04 | 19:42 |
| holstein | the wacom i plugged in just worked | 19:42 |
| holstein | bluenode: i think the bloat came to a head somewhere around jaunty | 19:43 |
| holstein | lucid is pretty snappy again i find | 19:43 |
| bluenode | i will test it around beginning of next week - too much things to archivize now | 19:43 |
| bluenode | oh and rendering issues | 19:44 |
| bluenode | i almost forgot about it | 19:44 |
| bluenode | ubuntu studio is generally "geared to audio" | 19:44 |
| bluenode | ? | 19:44 |
| holstein | not really | 19:45 |
| holstein | its trying to be for all artist really | 19:45 |
| holstein | just a collection of common audio, video and graphics packages | 19:46 |
| holstein | and some tweaks here and there | 19:46 |
| holstein | LIKE the network manager is removed | 19:46 |
| holstein | and the art and themes are usually very nice | 19:46 |
| holstein | even though i dont use them | 19:46 |
| bluenode | i simply render from command line. | 19:46 |
| holstein | cool | 19:46 |
| bluenode | ok i must fly away now, but will return for small report about experiences with 10.04 | 19:47 |
| holstein | good luck | 19:48 |
| bluenode | thanks:) | 19:48 |
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