[01:03] <T`_> what desktop search utility is a good choice for xubuntu 10.4? I'm looking for something equivalent to spotlight on the Mac
[01:06] <bazhang> find?
[01:07] <T`_> well i have find on my mac too
[01:07] <T`_> looking for something which can do metadata + content search
[01:07] <T`_> in applications, folders, etc.. everywhere
[01:08] <bazhang> so something shiny then
[01:08] <T`_> not necessarily.. as longa s it can do the above
[01:08] <T`_> find is file centric only
[09:34] <xubiNoob> Hi! Can anybody tell me how can i add a program to application menu bar?
[12:29] <eev2> Hi all, I'm observing about 20 sec idle time after I log-in until the autostart applications start. I was wondering if you could help me diagnose what is causing this. I can't see any action when I use the top command. Any ideas? I have xubuntu 10.4.
[12:39] <xubuntu491> hi
[15:46] <astroboy> I have a problem with notification: when I go over them with the cursor, they disappear
[15:46] <knome> astroboy, that is a feature
[15:47] <astroboy> fresh xubuntu installation
[15:47] <astroboy> knome: why is that useful?
[15:47] <astroboy> ah not to get in the way
[15:47] <knome> astroboy, they are not clickable
[15:47] <astroboy> fair enough :P
[15:47] <knome> astroboy, yes, not to get in the way
[15:47] <astroboy> ok, thanks. I didn't know that and I thought it was a problem
[15:47] <astroboy> another thing
[15:47] <astroboy> is there a way to move them
[15:47] <knome> astroboy, i understand that can be confusing :)
[15:48] <astroboy> because they are slightly low
[15:48] <knome> afaik, http://mupuf.org/blog/article/22/ is still pretty much the only way
[15:49] <knome> i'm not sure if you can control their exact positioning, though
[15:49] <astroboy> uhm ok
[15:49] <Sysi> knome: am i only who think notify-osd completely sucks?
[15:49] <knome> Sysi, you're not.
[15:49] <knome> Sysi, but sometimes you just have to adapt
[15:50] <knome> Sysi, one could think it's pretty easy for you since you're still young ;)
[15:50] <Sysi> i can remove it and live without notifications
[15:50] <schlaftier> I must admit I like notify-osd
[16:01] <Sysi> if it worked like in others, click and it goes away it would be okay
[16:02] <Sysi> or it would be in other place
[17:03] <morwen87> I just installed xubuntu but my audio doesn't work...
[17:04] <Sysi> how are you testing?
[17:04] <morwen87> through skype
[17:07] <morwen87> plus, i'm not able to listen any default sound
[17:08] <Sysi> !sound
[17:09] <well_laid_lawn> in terminal do   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   - careful it is loud - ctrl_c to kill it morwen87
[17:09] <well_laid_lawn> anything?
[17:09] <morwen87> i'm trying to that, thanks
[17:18] <morwen87> do I have to install alsa drivers?
[17:19] <well_laid_lawn> they should have been installed by default
[17:22] <morwen87> how do I check if I have it or not installed?
[17:22] <well_laid_lawn> dpkg -l | grep alsa
[17:23] <Sysi> they might aren't on xfce mixer's list by default
[17:25] <morwen87> ok apparently I have alsa driver
[17:27] <well_laid_lawn> try   alsamixer   in terminal and turn all up
[17:31] <morwen87> done but still not working
[17:33] <well_laid_lawn> the command cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp produced sound? morwen87
[17:33] <well_laid_lawn> ?
[17:33] <morwen87> no
[17:33] <well_laid_lawn> o
[17:33] <morwen87> it says the device is occupied or something
[17:33] <morwen87> busy, I mean
[17:33] <well_laid_lawn> then you need to explore   lspci   to see if the sound card is deected
[17:34] <Sysi> even if it shows in lspci there may isn't drivers
[17:35] <well_laid_lawn> morwen87: is this a xubuntu install or an ubuntu install with xubuntu-desktop?
[17:35] <morwen87> xubuntu
[17:35] <well_laid_lawn> k
[17:35] <Sysi> i should't matter in lucid
[17:35] <morwen87> i installed lucid
[17:36] <Sysi> *it
[17:36] <morwen87> anyway in lspci I cannot find the sound card
[17:37] <morwen87> but there is a multimedia audio controller
[17:37] <well_laid_lawn> lspci | grep audio
[17:37] <Sysi> grep -i
[17:37] <well_laid_lawn> that's the sound card morwen87
[17:38] <morwen87> ok, then it is detected
[17:38] <morwen87> but still no sound
[17:39] <Sysi> tell us the model of it
[17:39] <well_laid_lawn> morwen87: but what is using it atm? "morwen87> it says the device is occupied or something"
[17:40] <morwen87> hmmm may it be the you tube page I opened to test the sound?
[17:40] <morwen87> i'll close it and try again now
[17:40] <well_laid_lawn> k
[17:42] <morwen87> still "busy"
[17:46] <well_laid_lawn> morwen87: all I can suggest is a logout/login to try to kill the app using it - unles Sysi has a suggestion?
[17:46] <Sysi> install updates
[17:47] <morwen87> how do I install updates?
[17:47] <morwen87> sorry for the very silly questions, but I'm a linux newbie
[17:48] <Sysi> there should be application in pnel telling if there re any available
[18:24] <xubuntu931> buona sera
[18:24] <xubuntu931> c'e' qualcuno che puo aiutarmi?
[18:25] <schlaftier> !it | xubuntu931
[19:47] <_L30_> anyone here to help me with plymouth?
[19:50] <Sysi> what's up
[19:52] <Kevin___> algum fala portugues?
[20:25] <_L30_> how to get the grub menu?
[20:25] <_L30_> at startup?
[20:38] <slow-motion> hi
[20:48] <Kangarooo> how can i connect from xubuntu to xubuntu using Xvnc? ive heard there was xvnc-viewer and xvnc-server but cant find anything like that. found how to connect to XDMCP but in xubuntu cant get System->Administration->Login Screen Setup      Tab Security->Enable XDMCP
[20:55] <_Anthony> kangarooo u can just use vnc no?
[20:57] <Kangarooo> as im reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC its not very easy. one solution in that page is everytime i need to ssh and from that computer to connect to the one i want to open vnc session. it would be easyr if i could just use some vnc-server to witch i just need to connect using som vnc-client
[20:58] <_Anthony> yeah
[20:58] <_Anthony> u can use vncviewer
[20:58] <_Anthony> the SSH tunneling is for security purposes
[20:59] <Sysi> just install vino and vncwiewer and it should work
[20:59] <_Anthony> yeah
[21:00] <_Anthony> vino is the server i was trying to think of
[21:00] <Sysi> or vinagre maybe does for instead of vncviewer
[21:00] <Kangarooo> Sysi: vino in server comp yes?
[21:00] <Sysi> !info vino
[21:00] <Kangarooo> ok
[21:00] <_Anthony> actually since your using xubuntu
[21:00] <_Anthony> x11vnc is probably a better choice
[21:01] <_Anthony> its command line though
[21:01] <Kangarooo> that was a server. ive installed that on server comp
[21:02] <_Anthony> kangaroo: you do vino on the one you want to connect to
[21:02] <Kangarooo> aaa. that i need to use to connect thrue ssh to comp i want to use as viever
[21:02] <_Anthony> then the vncviewer/vinagre to connect to the server
[21:02] <_Anthony> you dont need to use ssh tunneling
[21:03] <_Anthony> its just for security
[21:03] <Kangarooo> nnnye but thats very dificult way. so theres no easyr way to just make some vncserver to be working on server comp waiting for client comp to connect with one command from client comp?
[21:04] <_Anthony> yeah
[21:04] <_Anthony> ...
[21:04] <_Anthony> thats what its like if you just install it
[21:04] <_Anthony> the only thing you have to do s open the port in the firewall for the server
[21:04] <_Anthony> do is*
[21:05] <Kangarooo> yes computer who i want to connect has it own ip so no router is in the way for that. on client is home
[21:06] <Kangarooo> ee client comp has router network
[21:06] <_Anthony> ok then all you need to do
[21:06] <_Anthony> is install vino
[21:06] <_Anthony> and start it
[21:06] <_Anthony> then connect using any vnc viewer
[21:06] <_Anthony> client comp is making the connection so it doesn't need any ports opened
[21:07] <Sysi> xub doesn't have firewall by default
[21:07] <_Anthony> I meant in the router if it was behind a router
[21:07] <Kangarooo> ph :) i was writing in terminal this messege: on server comp i cant open vino thrue ssh. so i need to physicaly start it on it?
[21:08] <_Anthony> you can start vino through ssh
[21:08] <_Anthony> im pretty sure at least
[21:08] <Sysi> but is it possible to set it up?
[21:08] <_Anthony> i dont remember
[21:08] <_Anthony> i use x11vnc
[21:09] <Sysi> i did graphically
[21:09] <Kangarooo> mm no. i installed on serv comp vino but it suggests did i mean kino or vinfo. theres packages installed vino-passwd and vino-preferences witch asks for GTK
[21:09] <_Anthony> hmm
[21:11] <_Anthony> if you want to start it from command line i think x11vnc would be your best bet
[21:12] <_Anthony> kangarooo: if you want it to keep a seperate user/session for vnc sessions than tightvncserver is nice
[21:13] <_Anthony> it uses a separate profile for all vnc sessions though
[21:16] <Kangarooo> ah ok i somehow managed.
[21:16] <Kangarooo> but i managed only to get in to already opened session
[21:16] <Kangarooo> and also without asking password..
[21:19] <Kangarooo> thrue ssh i opened just x11vnc and it gave info username:2 then in this comp using vncviewer ip:2 i connected without password to exacly the same how i left it.
[23:57] <slow-motion> n8