[00:07] well,guys THANK YOU both.You were very kind guiding me in this scripting jungle.:) [00:08] the script is working very well [00:08] thank you again [00:11] wernerx, don't infalte his ego ;) [00:12] :) [00:12] wernerx, I'll make sure ibuclaw ( that Brit ) gets the message :) [00:18] nhandler, poke [00:18] thank you,and tell him that his solution is working very well.With his help i can now install almost 100 apps grouped in 15 categories.I use those # comments to keep things organized [00:19] wernerx, :) [00:21] and I thank drubin as much too [01:04] Hi everybody [01:28] anyi=one familiar with putting songs on an iphone/ipod using Ubuntu [01:30] duanedesign: have you had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod ? [01:31] #1 suggestion to people in that situation: Get a copy of Windows and run it in a VM. [01:32] collinp: we had ipods working in the beta stage of 10.04, I'm figuring it is still there [01:33] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1416507 [01:35] * phillw corrects self - was in alpha stage [01:54] phillw, http://iainbuclaw.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/2010-05-30-002118_1024x600_scrot.png [01:55] oooh, how much resources does it take to have the 'snake' on the right? [01:56] little to none [01:56] * phillw would like to try that [01:56] the 16% you see there is all deadbeef playing music =) [01:56] phillw, all tis is conky + lua [01:57] ibuclaw: ahh, so I did finally find you a music player :-p [01:57] well I kinda "forced" it on bodhi [01:58] I cannot recommend it, it's not in the repos - but, bt heck, it's good [01:58] it was a constant struggle between ario and xmms2 [01:59] i've forgotten who it was on our mailing list who brought it to our attention. you had input over the things you wanted Aqualung to do obviously, so they went looking further. [02:00] I believe they found a nice one & already have a decent chat with the author [02:00] is the 'snake' on the right GTK or gnome? [02:01] conky + lua [02:01] if anything ... it's xft [02:01] but that is just for the font rendering [02:02] .conkyrc http://pastebin.com/TJFzdP5J [02:02] not sure if we have conky in lubuntu, I would guess not [02:03] .conky/conky_widgets.lua http://pastebin.com/hC7LJNEe [02:03] nope, but it's tiny =) [02:05] phillw, and you can get some very visually appeasing effects from it [02:05] http://blog.conky.be/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Screenshot1.jpg [02:06] ibuclaw: thanks for the pastebin, but we have I said about it "may as well be in chinese" :-) [02:06] http://blog.conky.be/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Calendar_wheel_1.png [02:07] http://blog.conky.be/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/xmassshot.png [02:34] hello. i want to get itunes on my laptop again but i completely got rid of windows when i put on ubuntu. does anyone know a way to get a free windows version? 98 or xp even. if not does anyone know a way to get itunes to work on ubuntu? [02:35] No and no. You cannot get Windows for free legally, and I'm not going to get into getting it illegally. [02:35] collinp: ok, and no way to get itunes to work on ubuntu? [02:36] And, there's been limited success with running iTunes using WINE - a Windows compatibility layer for Linux - and only with older versions. Even then, it didn't work very well. [02:36] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod [02:36] i've been there phillw [02:37] and i have tried rythm box with my ipod touch but the sync didnt work and nearly erased my ipod settings and stuff. i think only itunes is compatible with ipod touch [02:37] kidtp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1416507 [02:38] I extremely highly doubt that there will ever be any official support for iTunes on Linux, and that there will ever be any good unofficial support for the iPod Touch and iPhone. [02:38] as collinp says, unless you can prove you have a hologram sticker on your computer for windows operating system we cannot help. [02:39] phillw: hologram sticker? lol [02:39] Aye, hologram sticker. [02:40] collinp: which is.... [02:41] the bit that has the microsoft 16 digit alpha-numric string [02:41] nvm. what is lucid lynx or alpha 3? in the forum you showed me phillw it says both but what are they and how do i get them? [02:41] kidtp: you can also have allok over at http://www.winehq.org/ which *may* provide an alternative [02:41] They look like this: http://www.technibble.com/articlecontent/2007/11/cod-sticker.jpg [02:42] Ubuntu 10.04LTS Lucid Lynx has already been released. [02:42] collinp: it also says alpha 3? [02:43] Uh, wait, what? [02:43] kidtp: I have not altered my staus, as I'm about to start with 10.10 development [02:43] No. [02:43] Alpha 3 would had been Lucid Lynx Alpha 3, which is long gone. [02:43] kidtp: that was when the lynx had 1st been found to have ipod capability [02:44] oh [02:45] I'm still not sure about naming a version of ubuntu after a carnivore, it ate the fox (Fire Fox), and a few other things along its way - hopefully the Meercat will not go out killing as much ;-) [02:46] lol. [02:48] phillw: if i have an activation key can you help me? [02:52] idk, i do not want to get banned, let me ask - if I do, you will require the activation key to be accepted by Microsoft. I just so do *not* do pircay [02:53] Any and all discussion of piracy is banned in this channel. [02:54] And I will enforce that. [03:00] collinp: ok i have changed my mind. no more piracy. i have a windows 7 disc. but there is a problem...it is a windows 7 upgrade disc for xp or vista. when i put it in i cant figure out waht to do in order to install it new. is it possible or am i wasting my time? [03:01] You have to have an existing install of XP or Vista on the hard drive to use a Windows 7 upgrade disc. [03:02] collinp: oh ok. is there any linux OS that is able to use itunes? [03:03] kidtp: is a private chat okay with you? [03:03] No. iTunes is only officially supported by Apple on Windows and Mac OS, and running iTunes using WINE on Linux does not work very well. [03:03] phillw: yes [03:07] thanks phillw for the ipod suggestions [03:09] http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347 [03:09] itunes on WineHQ^^ [03:10] havent tried it but i/5 [03:11] ugh [03:11] duanedesign: they've been spending some time on it [03:30] pa/13 [03:46] collinp: i have a second laptop with windows on it. if i back up that computer with a cd it should be just like a windows 7 livecd, correct? if so could i just put it in this laptop after resizing the partitions and install windows that way? [03:59] HAPPY B'DAY PEDRO#))% [04:00] erm pedro3005 [04:00] mohi2911, failure [04:00] omg [04:00] you fail [04:00] :/ [04:00] haha [04:00] * mohi2911 wished pedro3005 IDIOT on his b'day. thats all :/ [04:00] mohi2911, :D === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === phillw is now known as phillw_away [05:26] danLe: Glad you made it. [05:26] hello? [05:26] haha [05:26] thanks [05:27] is this server more useful? [05:27] i have a question [05:27] danLe is a user that I brought over from the utterly dead #ubuntu channel on UnderNet. They're having issues with installing Ubuntu on their netbook using a USB drive. [05:27] i need help installing ubuntu [05:28] nicely summed! thanks again! [05:28] This server is oriented towards Open Source Software like Ubuntu. Every official Ubuntu channel is located on this network. [05:28] great [05:30] weird i my irc froze [05:30] Hmm. [05:31] but im back now [05:31] what 'issues' specifically? [05:32] one sec [05:32] From what they explained, Ubuntu is freezing while booting from the USB drive. [05:32] After the selection menu. [05:33] I couldn't be of very much help, as they are using Ubuntu Netbook and I have little experience with it. [05:33] hmm [05:35] are you running the latest usb-creator (0.2.22)? There was some bugs with it before [05:35] i used [05:36] Universal-usb-installer v1.5.8 [05:37] I've not used that before [05:37] generally the best results for booting from a USB are when using usb-creator on from a linux box [05:38] hmm [05:38] the strange thing is [05:38] the usb boot works fine on my desk top [05:39] oh you mean it boots Ubuntu fine? [05:39] yea [05:39] on desktop [05:40] hmm [05:40] what model is your netbook? [05:41] toshiba Satellite T115-S1100 [05:42] you've done all the usual setting the USB as first-boot dev and that? [05:44] yes [05:44] strange.. [05:45] try starting from square one using the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Windows [05:46] so mount the ubuntu iso and extract usb-creator.exe and try using that [05:46] I think you might have more luck b/c that's Ubuntu's official program [05:47] using [05:47] unetbootin? [05:48] ah yes sorrry you'll have to use unetbootin [05:49] the usb-creator.exe doesn't exist on distro ISO post 9.10 [05:49] if you have internet access, http://www.netboot.me/ is an option [05:51] ill try both [05:51] thanks [05:52] let us know if both fail :) [05:52] or you succeed of course [05:56] yessir [06:13] anyone got any idea how to close a single window in a 'window group' [06:13] right click just seems to bring the clicked window into focus [06:13] I was hoping for a context menu to be able to close the clicked window [07:47] morning aluex [07:47] hi [07:48] hobgoblin, actually time here is afternoon. :D [07:48] mornafterevight then ;) [07:49] :) === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [09:59] hullo all [10:00] hi drake [10:01] I'm not really sure if this is an appropriate channel to ask my question, I consider myself a 'beginner' but the question itself may not be. [10:02] fire it off - if I can help I will - if not there are others in here - whether they are awake or not is another matter [10:03] I'm using ubuntu server with no gui, I can navigate the command line fairly well at this point however.... [10:03] I have a device mounted via fstab as /dev/sdb1 /media/terabyte defaults 0 0. I want to make a folder '/media/terabyte/shared' sharable and accessible across the network. I am able to share the entire drive via the smb.conf usering xam's guide located here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver-p3 however I do not wish the entire drive accessed. Someone mentioned symbolic links and sharing only that but I'm not sure how [10:03] and yes....I pre-typed that earlier. *grin* [10:05] ln -s /path/to/real/file /path/to/non-existent/file [10:05] like that [10:09] Thank you! I'm going to study this for a moment.... So ln -s /media/terabyte/Shared /home/name/Shared Then in my fstab replace /media/terabyte with /home/name/shared ? That looks like it should work [10:09] Of course, I think I may have to chmod the link (if you can do that) or would that be lchmod it to 777 [10:20] Beautiful, so far so good, I was able to make the link, now I'm going to attempt to share that link with my network! You rock [10:29] you know what I love about Openbox ? [10:29] doesn't cause the CPU and Hard disk to run hot. :P [10:30] unlike Mutter, which constantly runs at 20% CPU [10:32] ibuclaw OpenBox is like GNOME, right? [10:33] no [10:33] :| [10:33] it's freedesktop.org compliant, but that is where it ends. [10:33] (one is a WM, the other a DE) [10:34] if you meant to say: "ibuclaw OpenBox is like Metacity, right?" [10:34] the answer is still no [10:34] :> [10:34] ibuclaw Could you explain a bit to me the different between a DE and a WM. I never really was that clear [10:36] Desktop Environment = WM + UI Toolkit + Userland Applications [10:36] ergo [10:37] GNOME = Metacity + GTK + GNOME Applications [10:38] Okay, so can openbox become part of GNOME, or would that require changing GTK and and GNOME Applications? [10:38] It can integrate well, yes. [10:40] but the overall look isn't really managed by Openbox [10:42] ibuclaw I know that if I try and run a KDE app while in GNOME, it basically starts up KDE running within GNOME. Will the same thing happen with openbox, or do running programs only access openbox and will not be affected either way? [10:43] ibuclaw also: "It can be used either as a replacement for the default Gnome window manager -- Metacity -- or as a standalone desktop environment. " [10:43] So... it's both? [10:44] lukjad86, that's a certain session configuration iirc [10:44] selecatable from the login screen [10:44] no clue what the difference is between Openbox and Openbox/GNOME or /KDE [10:46] ibuclaw If I use it within GNOME, will I notice a difference, or will it just work better generally? [10:46] You will most likely notice a huge difference :) [10:46] right-click menus, switching desktops, window decoration... [10:46] Openbox is configured for 4 desktops, but the current session has 5. Overriding the Openbox configuration. [10:47] Openbox-Message: Unable to find a valid menu file "debian-menu.xml" [10:47] :| [10:47] :P [10:47] apt-get install menu [10:47] The prompt is not coming back though [10:47] apt-get install obconf [10:48] right-click -> reconfigure [10:48] dear me, looks like the whole thing has crashed [10:48] I can't switch windows :\ [10:49] haha [10:49] /exec -o is my friend :) [10:49] no clue what you are on about ... never happened to me. :-* [10:49] Or maybe not the -o [10:50] ibuclaw See, what happened was that when I pasted that error, the command prompt would not change [10:50] *release itself [10:50] It is still running [10:50] So I Ctrl+C'd it, and crashed openbox. So I could not switch [10:51] http://iainbuclaw.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/2010-05-30-002118_1024x600_scrot.png [10:53] ibuclaw sweet [10:53] Nifty little background with the CPU [10:53] ibuclaw Do I have to keep that terminal open forever? [10:54] what terminal ? [10:54] Because when I try and close it, openbox crashes [10:54] ohh [10:54] your **** [10:54] :) [10:54] lukjad86, openbox & [10:54] disown [10:54] then you can close it [10:55] ibuclaw Err.. but how to get the prompt to recognize that without killing openbox? [10:55] lukjad86, oh, it is still running ? [10:56] Ctrl+Z [10:56] bg [10:56] disown [10:56] then you can close it [10:56] * lukjad86 hugs ibuclaw [10:56] ibuclaw Great! now more cycles for F@H :D [10:57] haha [10:57] lukjad86, you should look into configuring openbox though... [10:57] I wonder if it's my imagination or if the windows really do switch faster :) [10:57] mkdir -p ~/.config/openbox [10:57] ibuclaw okay [10:58] ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml is the desktop configuration file [10:58] ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml is the right-click menu [10:58] ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh is the autostart applications [10:58] (be sure to chmod +x autostart.sh) [10:58] ibuclaw any way to port the startups from GNOME? [10:59] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/zenix/skel/files/head:/.config/openbox/ [11:00] lukjad86, look at the commands run, and put it in that file [11:00] ? [11:00] am not sure what the Openbox/GNOME session does tbh [11:01] lukjad86, look in /etc/xdg/autostart/ [11:04] ibuclaw Just so you know, /home/lukjad007/.config/openbox is blank. So I just need to create those files? [11:05] OIC [11:05] brb [11:33] Hi hobgoblin [11:35] hi lukjad86 [11:35] hobgoblin Long time no see [11:35] I'm often in and out of here - though more out than in [11:39] hobgoblin Yeah, me too, sadly [11:40] well as much as is available is more than enough I think [11:51] hobgoblin, how to find some new applets for the panel? [11:51] right click add to panel [11:52] I meant to add a sound controlling applet [11:52] i mean the volume [11:52] it used to be there but not now [11:53] nor in the dialog after clicking 'add to' menu [11:53] try this in a terminal sudo apt-get install indicator-sound [11:54] it should be in the indicator-applet [11:59] aluex: does that sort it? [11:59] ? [11:59] what is "sort" [12:00] is it there now? [12:00] volume controlling applet? [12:00] yes [12:00] no,it isn't there now [12:01] did you do as I say? [12:01] you might need to right click panel and add indicator applet [12:03] wait. [12:04] added [12:04] is it the same as Notifier Area? [12:05] no - they do different thins at the moment - the notification area will be going in the future [12:06] ? [12:06] it is not the same [12:06] oh,i see [12:06] ^^,thank you [12:07] then i can listen to the music [12:07] What's the differences between notification area and indicator applet? [12:08] Oh, i see [12:09] i used to think they are the same [12:10] they sort of do the saem thing at the moment for different indicators - one will in the end disappear [12:10] oh [12:11] Thank you~ [12:12] welcome [12:35] I am running 64bit 10.04. Cheese freezes every time I try to record video (works ok for pics). I know the camera works because I use it in skype. Any ideas? Or any suggestions about alternative applications? === mohi2911 is now known as mohi57o9 [13:12] hi can anyone help me with a problem on my network [13:12] if i go to nautilus and select network [13:12] then windows network [13:13] it returns an error saying "Unable to mount location" [13:13] "Failed to retrieve share list from server" [13:13] sometimes i get further but i never get the the files I want [13:21] can any one help? === ajmorris_ is now known as ajmorris === phillw_away is now known as phillw [14:15] help: (gedit:5984): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_converter_convert: assertion `outbuf_size > 0' failed === Guest69845 is now known as paultag_ [14:46] how to add a prefix to every file in current folder? [14:46] i mean "to every file's name" [14:48] rename 's/.*/prefix.*/' * <- OK?? [14:56] aluex, Ohhh, a puzzle :) [14:56] aluex, let me see if I can do this without checking in my terminal [14:57] ...i m confused [14:57] for x in `ls`; do mv $x "prefix-$x"; done [14:57] try that aluex [14:57] oh thank you [14:57] aluex, I did not test that, but it should work [14:57] and how to use regular expr? [14:57] yeah that works aluex [14:58] i want to learn [14:58] aluex, Oh, well that's the hard way :P [14:58] hehe [14:58] aluex, I'm not sure on rename's syntax [14:58] ibuclaw, poke [14:58] oh. [14:58] aluex, hang around, someone will read this and get back to you :) [14:59] paultag_, ? [15:00] paultag_, ok [15:00] ibuclaw, can you help aluex with regexps + rename? I've forgotten my regexps and you know perl [15:00] <3 ibuclaw [15:01] aluex, you can - iirc - use: rename 's/^/prefix/' * [15:01] aha,that's it [15:01] thanks ibuclaw, you rock :) [15:01] thanks [15:02] another question : what is write-protected regular file [15:02] paultag_, did you know that gdm no longer depends on metacity ? :) [15:02] ibuclaw, w00t! [15:02] paultag_, am currently putting together a zenix-artwork pack [15:02] have gdm setup ... sorta [15:03] aluex, a file that you don't have write permissions for [15:03] ibuclaw, awesome [15:03] aluex, usually because: 1) it is set as read-only, or 2) you are not the owner of it. [15:04] oh. [15:04] i c [15:04] aluex, where are you trying to write to ? [15:05] ls -l # is your friend :) [15:05] brb [15:06] ikonia, that's a file i copied from other computer. :) [15:07] ..i m sorry [15:07] typed wrong name.. [15:12] Anyway to search my folder faster? [15:13] I mean if there's an approch to building a index [15:13] or something like that [15:13] aluex, find . -type f > manifest [15:13] aluex, and you can even do something even fun(er) [15:14] aluex, echo "" > manifest; md5sum `find . -type f` >> manifest [15:14] aluex, all the files + md5 sums [15:14] oh,i mean if there is a dynamic-updated index [15:14] : ) [15:15] aluex, you could make a really cool FUSE util that would make a few "files" that would be the output of a program [15:15] confused.. [15:16] paultag_, my english is not very well.. :P [15:16] i thought something can do this in former version of ubuntu [15:16] Oh? [15:17] aluex, what are you trying to do? [15:17] i have a folder that i searched frequently [15:17] just like a lib [15:17] : ) [15:17] aluex, Ahhh, very cool idea. There might be something built in with the find tool in Ubuntu [15:18] eh. [15:19] aluex, you want to make it yourself? [15:19] ...maybe not. [15:19] Oh, too bad [15:19] aluex, you could do something really cool if you wanted to make it yourself [15:20] paultag_, http://iainbuclaw.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/2010-05-30-140549_1024x600_scrot.png [15:20] I saw that ibuclaw [15:20] that's gdm =) [15:20] ibuclaw, P.S. I thought scrot was like scrotum ( balls ) [15:20] ibuclaw, might want to change that [15:20] aluex, there is something called "Zeitgeist" and something called "FUSE" [15:20] aluex, you could try and merge those to create a folder full of links to the most used files [15:20] paultag_, I thought Lynx was the webbrowser ... but they ain't changing that either... [15:21] haha [15:21] paultag_, i will google it [15:21] ibuclaw, well, it looks awesome [15:21] aluex, :D, let me know how it goes, I'd LOVE to check it out [15:22] paultag_, this is the rc.xml used to make it possible : http://pastebin.com/2BqaFeXp [15:22] note there is no right-click function. ;) [15:22] gnome-do sounds nice [15:23] ibuclaw, :) [15:23] aluex, gnome-do rocks [15:23] ibuclaw, looks awesom [15:23] and so is beagle [15:23] ibuclaw, as usual, you rock my socks off :) [15:25] are you roommate? [15:25] roommates [15:26] paultag_, i mean " you and ibuclaw " [15:26] aluex, haha! roommates == someone you live with :D [15:27] aluex, I am doing quite well :) [15:27] aluex, how are you? [15:27] you mean "stand with" or "bear" [15:27] ? [15:27] paultag_, find,i m installing gnome-do [15:27] aluex, roommate is someone that you live with in a house that is not in your family [15:27] \o/ [15:27] oh, i know [15:28] Ahhh [15:28] OK, I'm doing very well :) [15:28] you just said your socks were rocked off [15:28] Oh ahahahaha [15:28] aluex, it's an American expression that means "That is awesome" [15:29] : ) thank you [15:29] i have taken it down in my notebook [15:29] :) [15:32]