[03:20] <akgraner> elky oing
[03:20] <akgraner> ping I mean
[03:24] <akgraner> hey all - just a heads up or wiki pages are being hacked *sigh*
[03:24] <akgraner> I have deleted the pages and sent the information to elmo
[03:24] <akgraner> s/or/our
[03:28] <rww> ugh. Looks like it's one of the people that got kicked from #u-w yesterday
[03:28] <akgraner> yep
[03:29] <akgraner> just wanted you all to know
[03:37] <valorie> oh, I thought we got the pages locked?
[03:37] <valorie> ugh
[03:37] <valorie> that sucks so much.....
[03:37] <akgraner> yeah - I did too
[03:38] <akgraner> so I just sent all of the information to elmo  - I also call on Tuesday to follow-up
[04:42] <valorie> so we're back to +i in the unlogged chan
[04:42] <valorie> :(
[04:44] <valorie> jenk, Nisstyre65, and trelane bear watching
[04:44] <valorie> wasn't trelane banned last night?
[04:48] <valorie> evidently not, according to a search of my scrollback
[05:05] <valorie> I think we need some ops in there
[05:05] <valorie> openly
[05:12] <valorie> and for some reason uninvited people are joining
[05:44] <rww> i can has #ubuntu-women invite?
[05:50] <valorie> PriceChild, Nightrose, JanC, Aishiko, Gary, christel, Susana, Hobbsee, pleia2, LadyFrost, elky, Myrtti, hypa7ia, maco, nikkiana, Gareth, akgraner, svaksha, Mamarok, MichelleQ, Pendulum, or akk
[05:50] <valorie> it would be good to have ops in #u-w
[05:50] <valorie> I can paste if you need proof of that
[05:50] <valorie> plus rww would like an invite
[05:50]  * valorie has no op powerz
[05:51] <rww> Pici, jussi, nhandler ^^^ (IRC council account is on access list)
[05:53] <valorie> ah
[05:53] <valorie> I didn't think about the access list
[05:53] <svaksha> valorie: can you list who should be kicked out? i skimmed the logs but am in the middle of devel stuff and didnt have time to analyze who exactly is being a troll.
[05:53] <MarkDude> ACCESS <#channel> LIST
[06:09] <svaksha> valorie: done
[06:39] <rww> if any operators happen to have appeared in the last hour, I'd still like an #ubuntu-women invite :)
[09:17] <Atamira> evening all
[09:19] <AlanBell> morning Atamira
[09:19] <Atamira> how are you AlanBell ?
[09:19] <AlanBell> good thanks, you?
[09:28] <Atamira> pretty good as well
[09:28] <Atamira> just watched episode 3 of the  new doc who
[09:32] <Atamira> hes not bad
[10:10] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:10] <AlanBell> morning
[13:03] <Pendulum> hiya
[13:04] <MichelleQ> morning
[13:19] <AlanBell> morning
[13:20] <Pendulum> how are y'all?
[13:20] <AlanBell> busy preventing kids from quite killing each other
[13:21] <Pendulum> oof. that sort of day?
[13:21] <AlanBell> successfully so far
[13:21] <Pendulum> well, that's good. I hope the success continues
[15:56] <MichelleQ> Hey y'all.  I'm having problems logging into the uw channel, tells me I need an invitation.  Are we locked down?
[15:58] <AlanBell> MichelleQ: yes, there was some discussion of that earlier
[15:59] <MichelleQ> mkay.  I've not been around since yesterday afternoon.
[15:59] <AlanBell> MichelleQ: oddly enough I think you were named as one of the people who can issue invitations
[16:00] <MichelleQ> rofl, interesting
[16:00] <MichelleQ> I have no idea how to go about doing it.
[16:00] <Pendulum> she can if she ops up
[16:00] <Pendulum> one sec, I'll op up and get you in :)
[16:01] <MichelleQ> I'm assuming this is because we've been trolltastic of late?
[16:01] <Pendulum> yes
[16:02] <MichelleQ> Thanks!
[16:02] <Pendulum> np :)
[16:06] <AlanBell> MichelleQ: someone called Sarah_ was looking for autism/aspie related software earlier and I pointed her in your direction
[16:06] <AlanBell> as well as unfortunately making her aware of #wrongplanet where she got bitten
[16:06] <MichelleQ> thanks, AlanBell, if she returns, I'll say hellp
[16:06] <MichelleQ> hello, even
[16:07] <MichelleQ> I'm sorry she got bitten at wrongplanet
[16:10] <AlanBell> yeah, was a lesson for me. Don't send unprepared neurotypicals in there!
[16:10] <Pendulum> what's #wrongplanet? (other than I suspect a channel I'd be interested in)
[16:11] <AlanBell> it is an aspergers channel
[16:11] <MichelleQ> It's a channel that's devoted to folks on the autism spectrum
[16:11] <AlanBell> or high functioning autism
[16:13] <Pendulum> *nods*
[16:14] <Pendulum> so really only bit her because she doesn't have a huge sense of autism/aspie culture?
[16:14] <AlanBell> you have to be very very careful about talking about "treatment"
[16:14] <MichelleQ> yeah, treatment is a big controversial issues
[16:15] <AlanBell> and she was talking about the patient of a friend of hers so they bit her for patient confidentialiy issues
[16:15] <Pendulum> heh (not something I suspect I'd have an issue with since most of my background with autism/aspergers is things like autistics.org)
[16:16] <AlanBell> I think you would survive in there just fine :-)
[16:16] <MichelleQ> I suspect most of us 'regulars' would
[16:16] <Pendulum> yeah
[16:17] <AlanBell> I would suggest a few days of lurking before saying anything though!
[16:18] <Pendulum> that's true with most channels anyway :)
[16:19] <AlanBell> it is
[16:19] <AlanBell> u-w especially :-)
[16:59] <akgraner> hey all I will be knee deep in UWN for a few hours but if ya need me just ping
[17:06] <czajkowski> have fun
[17:06] <akgraner> cz
[17:06] <akgraner> czajkowski, thanks! :-)
[17:07] <czajkowski> akgraner: see my latest blog post, for all loco teams :)
[17:07] <czajkowski> that wiki page wil be translasted in the coming few days
[17:09] <akgraner> czajkowski, is that the guidelines one?
[17:11] <czajkowski> aye
[18:11] <JanC> hey all, after reading the Belgian portrait law I had some doubts about the form we currently use about that, so I asked a friend of me who's studying law to explain things to me
[18:13] <JanC> in Belgium, it might be required to not only ask permission from the parents, but also from the underage children, once they are old enough to judge good from bad (simply said, the legal term is more complicated)
[18:14] <JanC> not sure how that would work though
[18:15] <akgraner> JanC, I think we are good, I asked several Lawyers to look over it
[18:15] <JanC> akgraner: US lawyers?  ;)
[18:15] <akgraner> NO
[18:16] <JanC> akgraner: in any case, would it hurt to ask kids aged 6-7 and older to sign it too?
[18:16] <JanC> most of them would probably love it
[18:16] <akgraner> several international lawyers as well as professional photo agencies that all do business global
[18:17] <akgraner> globally even
[18:17] <akgraner> all said we covered all the bases without being hard to understand
[18:18] <JanC> to be clear: approval can be given implicitly, both by parent & the children, so currently we assume implicit approval by the children
[18:19] <JanC> but he also recommended to get written approval from the underaged persons if possible
[18:20] <akgraner> JanC, ok thanks :-)
[18:20] <JanC> although the value of a written approval by underaged persons is not really valid legally (so the law is somewhat contradictory)
[18:20] <akgraner> I'll get that written in for next time
[18:21] <czajkowski> Orla is thrilled with the prize
[18:21] <akgraner> it's not a big deal
[18:21] <czajkowski> hoping to fget her to come to the ubuntu hour
[18:21] <JanC> akgraner: I was just thinking, most kids would love to put their name on the form  ;)
[18:21] <akgraner> I need to send an email to all the winners sometime today
[18:21] <czajkowski> akgraner: irish team member kid won
[18:21] <czajkowski> :D
[18:21] <akgraner> JanC, yep they do (I have to of my own who love signing stuff)
[18:21] <czajkowski> she's thrilled
[18:23] <akgraner> czajkowski, I haven't sent the emails out yet so can you get me 1) Parents Names 2) Mailing/Shipping Address 3) Phone number and email it me  as well as if they want Ubuntu User or Linux Pro (Print or online) subscription
[18:23] <akgraner> That would be a huge help!
[18:26] <czajkowski> akgraner: mike isn't online atm if i see him i'll poke him for you
[18:29] <akgraner> thank you so much
[18:35] <czajkowski> np
[18:37] <czajkowski> akgraner: mail sent to mike and cc you
[18:38] <akgraner> czajkowski, awesome!
[18:38] <akgraner> I really appreciate it
[18:38] <czajkowski> akgraner: no bother handy when I've thunderbird open to just do it there and then
[18:39] <akgraner> :-)
[18:40] <czajkowski> tick off the list
[18:40] <czajkowski> :)
[20:56] <czajkowski> akgraner: you have mail from Mike re Orla
[20:57] <akgraner> thank you! I really appreciate you getting the information for me :-)
[20:57] <czajkowski> no bother