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apacheloggerMamarok: well, on mine, and since I am the primary user of that library... ;)00:00
bulldog98Riddell: in the futur I’ll do such things on my grand PC :P00:06
apacheloggerbulldog98: that sounds like a super computer cluster with 5k nodes ^^00:07
debfxare we going to use libgpod4 or libgpod4-nogtk for maverick?00:09
apacheloggerlibgpod400:09
apacheloggerIIRC amarok does not even work anymore without gtk00:10
debfxkipi-plugins build-deps on libgpod-nogtk-dev but doesn't depend on libgpod* at all00:11
debfxthat's strange00:11
bulldog98apachelogger: next time I’ll do such things on my big PC00:17
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apacheloggerbulldog98: same thing ^^00:18
debfxwhy have we disabled mysqle_amarok_local_errmsg_feature.diff? the changelog doesn't mention anything00:18
Daskreechlarsivi_: what's libglew needed for?00:27
bulldog98Riddell: build finished00:52
lex79Daskreech: we need libglew in main to build kdeedu00:52
bulldog98Riddell: what to do if they are build succesfully?00:59
lex79bulldog98: we have to clean ninja ppa before uploading 4.4.4, we have 4.4.80 in ninja now01:02
bulldog98lex79: I can’t upload to that even if it would be wanted01:02
debfxsomething is broken in maverick's glib: /usr/include/glib-2.0/gio/gdbusintrospection.h:147: error: expected unqualified-id before 'protected'01:11
debfxoh01:20
debfxGDBusInterfaceInfo contains an attribute called "signals"01:20
lex79JontheEchidna: since the merge, kdebase-runtime recommends virtuoso-minimal, should recommends only virtuoso-nepomuk01:21
JontheEchidnalex79: ideally we need to merge virtuoso01:21
lex79we don't want all virtuoso stuff in the cd01:21
debfxI hope amarok builds with QT_NO_KEYWORDS01:28
debfxhrm it does not01:38
lex79:)01:39
* JontheEchidna begins virtuoso merge01:41
lex79JontheEchidna: maybe we can sync it ;)01:42
lex79if we have all build-deps in main...01:42
JontheEchidnalex79: with a package this big, best to go through manually to see if there's anything we have that would be missed if synced01:42
* bulldog98 has the finished the build of the libs and is asking what to do next01:42
lex79right, ok01:43
lex79bulldog98: are you a ninja?01:43
bulldog98lex79: no01:43
lex79uhm, wait Riddell then or somebody else01:44
lex79I mean tomorrow at this point :)01:44
bulldog98lex79: hm at about 12 a clock he should be on right?01:45
lex79utc...yes01:46
bulldog98lex79: yes I ment utc01:46
lex79ok01:46
JontheEchidnalex79: looks like we can sync, but we'll have to do some nepomuk changes at the same time in kdebase-runtime01:46
JontheEchidnaoh, soprano too01:46
bulldog98lex79: then it will be 2 a clock here and I’ll be back from school01:47
lex79JontheEchidna: why? kdebase-runtime depends on virtuoso-minimal01:47
* bulldog98 goes to bed because he has to get up in 3 hours01:47
lex79bulldog98: ok no problem01:47
JontheEchidnalex79: our virtuoso package places the virtuoso-t binary in a different location01:47
lex79oh01:47
JontheEchidnaactually, I think that all the changes will need done in soprano01:47
JontheEchidnaalso we can file for removal for virtuosoconverter01:48
lex79JontheEchidna: you have the power now to do all at the same time :)  don't wait me01:49
JontheEchidnamuwahahaha01:49
lex79JontheEchidna: you're a bad guy now :(01:49
lex79hihihih01:49
JontheEchidna>:D01:49
* debfx wonders if glib would accept a patch to rename an attribute because qt #defines it01:51
lex79JontheEchidna: I'm writing motu application btw, and I will use also for kubuntu-dev application01:51
lex79allelujia01:51
lex79lol01:51
shadeslayerwell.. upgrade went awesome.. nothing apt-get -f install cant fix :P03:23
shadeslayer4.5 looks pretty awesome :D03:23
shadeslayerwell theres no printer config dialog :P03:29
shadeslayerwhats the kwin tiling feature i hear about?03:30
shadeslayerapachelogger: just a small fyi.... the new khotnewstuff directly uploads your themes,etc to opendesktop.org,removing the need for a browser :P03:35
shadeslayeri guess everyones off to sleep :(03:44
nigelbshadeslayer: its a long weekend for US - tomorrow is memorial day03:46
nigelbfolks might be away taking a break, family, etc03:46
shadeslayernigelb: memorial day?03:49
shadeslayernigelb: how come your up so early?03:50
shadeslayer:P03:50
stefan`hello08:53
stefan`i updated to kde4.5 from the experimental ppa08:53
stefan`however, i don't get the blur effect working, although its enabled and set to max08:53
stefan`00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)08:54
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=0&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 008:54
Tm_Tstefan`: it doesn't work where exactly? also what windeco youre using?09:05
stefan`oxygen as windeco09:06
stefan`its not working in any place i can observe: not in the panel, not in plasma-popups not behind windows09:06
Tm_Thmmm09:06
Tm_Tif it doesn't work even in panel, then I don't know09:07
Tm_Tstefan`: one of those silly things to do, but, tried relogin? (:09:07
stefan`Tm_T: is there a place where log-messages for these effects are written?09:08
stefan`Tm_T: hehe ;) yes, i did already :(09:08
Tm_Tno idea about the logs09:08
Tm_T...I think this is best dealt in #kde or some other support channel09:08
stefan`Tm_T: right, thanks.09:08
apparleIs rekonq going to be the default browser in 10.10?09:51
jussiapparle: thats the plan10:16
apparlejussi: so konq will be there or not at all10:17
jussiapparle: not at all. just in the repos10:17
apparlejussi: and that is just with us (kubuntu) or kde is doing the same10:18
jussiapparle: afaik, just us.10:18
apparleok10:18
Riddellbulldog98: yo10:59
Tm_Tapparle: Konqueror wont go away from KDE until... KDE 5 or way later10:59
Tm_Tapparle: also including rekonq isn't that straightforward either, nor in agenda yet11:00
apparleTm_T: so is it going to remain in extra gear forever :)11:00
Tm_Tcannot know11:00
Tm_Tbut as long as it requires more frequent release schedule than KDE sc it won't be in main modules11:01
apparleTm_T: if konq is not removed, why not make it a proper browser11:01
Tm_Tapparle: how it isn't proper browser?11:01
apparleTm_T:  a very basic need.. it doesn't open a very famous site like yahoo mail11:02
Tm_Tapparle: and rekonq opens?11:02
apparleTm_T: I mean after modifying browser identification also11:02
apparleTm_T: after modifying browser identification... yahoo mail works perfectly in rekonq11:03
apparleTm_T: even gmail doesn't work to its fullest in konq11:04
apparleTm_T: I don't think a normal user like me using yahoo/gmail (I haven't tried windows live or aol) would think it as a complete browser if it can't open these sites11:05
Tm_Tapparle: I just logged in to yahoo mail, what doesn't work in this?11:07
Tm_Tand no, I haven't changed any browser identification11:07
apparleTm_T: are you using the new yahoo mail or just the old one11:07
Tm_Tapparle: I have no idea what is new and what is old11:08
Tm_Tapparle: ah, I now found out how to activate "new"11:09
apparleTm_T: the new interface is good and fast also11:09
Tm_Thow it doesn't work?11:11
apparleTm_T: you mean you are in the new interface in konq without any browser identification modification11:12
Tm_Tapparle: apparently I need to change the identification, but that's nothing Konqueror devels can do about11:13
apparleTm_T:  in my case it doesn't open even after that11:14
Tm_Tapparle: try using webkit11:14
apparleTm_T: ohhh11:14
apparleTm_T: you should have told me earlier that you are using webkit, then rekonq and konq will be almost same.11:14
Tm_Tapparle: I use khtml and webkit11:14
apparleTm_T: can I do that on KDE SC4.4.2?11:15
Tm_Tsure11:15
apparleTm_T: how11:15
Tm_Tapparle: install kpart-webkit (I think) and then restart Konqueror, then from menu: view -> view mode -> webkit11:17
Tm_Tapparle: btw, if you have problems with konqueror, please submit bug reports with good simple testcases, these simple issues shouldn't be reason to call konqueror unproper11:17
apparleTm_T: I just told you some cases, but it causes problems for many sites (considering there is no webkit). I can report bugs when they are ocassional but if I get them in every site, I'd better change the browser11:20
Tm_Tapparle: I have currently problems in one site only, and that has broken scripts apparently11:21
apparleTm_T: should I rebuilt syscoca11:21
apparleTm_T: afater installation of webkit11:21
Tm_Tapparle: wont hurt, though it should happen itself11:21
apparleTm_T: now no complaints about konqueror... but why isn't webkit default?11:27
Tm_Tapparle: it's extragear stuff11:28
apparleTm_T: I don't know how things work about that, but its better than the default at least11:29
Tm_Tthere's plenty of integration still lacking/not working well11:29
Tm_T...and I'm talking about current development (:11:30
apparleTm_T: idk.....anyways webkit doesn't remail default in konq, anyway to fix that11:32
Tm_Tcannot remember exact steps, there's plenty of guides online though11:33
apparleTm_T: ok11:35
debfxRiddell: amarok is in the ninjas ppa11:52
Riddelldebfx: ooh, I was just about to ask11:54
Riddelldebfx: are you rediscovering your music?11:54
RiddellJontheEchidna: kutils linking issue sorted11:54
debfxindeed I am ;)11:57
RiddellMamarok, Nightrose: is 2.3.1 a new feature release or a bugfix only release?  (should we put it in updates or backports)12:02
Nightroseit has new features12:02
* Riddell wonders why he no longer has usr/lib/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so12:28
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Moved to kdebase-workspace-bin for me12:28
Riddellseems a strange move, I guess win32 and mac users don't want oxygen style12:30
Riddelldebfx: amarok seems to be working well12:32
Riddelldebfx: I'll upload to maverick and to backports PPA12:32
Riddelldebfx: where is kubuntu/08_fix_ftbfs_glib_2.25.diff from?12:36
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531113741-0ez9hsnuueperplw * src/api/ (Account.cpp Account.h) private d pointer for Account12:37
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531113808-2v2aq5ct2xsnqevo * debian/control fix section of libubuntuone-api-dev12:38
apachelogger4 more classes to go :/12:38
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CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531114742-ld0aa9sgysoy54ae * debian/control syncdaemon is in ubuntuone-client, so lets depend on that12:47
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531115120-26qzbimmqrcvhe1w * (debian/control src/api/Account.h) Here is a thing, desktopcouch depends on gnome-keyring to work, gnome-keyring in turn does not provide an appropriate dbus service fail making it fall apart when no daemon is running \o/12:52
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531115424-09h60cicb61ifjl4 * data/ (org.freedesktop.secrets.service.in CMakeLists.txt) return of the gnome-keyring dbus service -.-12:54
apachelogger*sob*13:00
apacheloggerNightrose: can you please hold me, otherwise I might go rant to a lot of people13:00
Nightroseawwwww13:00
* Nightrose hold apachelogger tightly13:00
apachelogger:*13:01
Nightrose:*13:01
apacheloggeroh13:02
apacheloggernow it is working Oo13:02
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531120344-4usjzbsj13s2shl6 * (TODO debian/ubuntuone-kde.install) Install org.freedesktop.secrets service and add todo item about it13:04
apacheloggerfregl: jos is also suggesting suse(studio)13:05
freglapachelogger: well, that would be easy to create... basically sitting down for an hour and clickety-click, though that is not a good longterm solution13:06
freglapachelogger: where does he suggest that?13:06
apacheloggerfregl: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/kde-mm-edu-sprint-2010-in-xrandr/#comments13:06
* fregl fell behind on blogreading13:06
apacheloggerJakob also got a point with "You should use kubuntu as base, since I guess people who would like a fluffy desktop don’t want to bother with drivers, codecs and such… good example is my girlfriend "13:06
apacheloggeractually that is a very good argument for kubuntu altogether, since one half of the target audience really does not want to mess with this stuff13:07
JontheEchidna*nod*13:07
apacheloggerNightrose: is there a sane webm encoder yet?13:08
freglapachelogger: do we get his girlfriend if we base it on that? lately I had no troubles with any linux distro on my outdated hardware anyway.13:08
apacheloggerfregl: I think it is more about broadcom wifi and prop graphics drivers13:09
apacheloggercodecs do work everywhere but arch and debian :P13:09
Nightroseapachelogger: idunno13:09
apacheloggerkubotu: wp webm13:09
kubotuResults for webm: 1. WebM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM | 2. VP8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP8 | 3. WebM - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM13:09
kubotu[1] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia13:09
bulldog98Riddell: ping13:19
Riddellyo bulldog98 13:20
Riddellbulldog98: I think we should build 4.4.4 in staging13:20
Riddellso long as apachelogger doesn't eat us13:20
Riddellbulldog98: so can you upload kde4libs to ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging ?13:20
bulldog98Riddell: do i have to be kubuntu ninja to do so?13:21
apacheloggerohm13:22
Riddellbulldog98: yes, we can fix that13:22
apacheloggerRiddell: ninja is ocupied?13:22
lex79in ninja there is 4.4.80 lucid13:22
Riddellapachelogger: it's still doing 4.4.80 bits13:22
apacheloggeroh my oh my13:22
apacheloggerclearly we need a second ninja ^^13:23
bulldog98apachelogger: I’ll second that13:23
lex79you can upload in staging if you are a kubuntu member, not ninja13:23
lex79or I wrong?13:23
Riddellneed to be ninja or dev13:24
lex79ah13:24
Riddellbulldog98 is now a ninja13:24
apacheloggerOo13:24
apacheloggerTHE FUCK13:24
apacheloggererm13:24
apacheloggersorry13:24
apachelogger"Ja, melden Sie mich in"13:24
apacheloggerNightrose: ^^^^^13:24
lex79apachelogger: ninja seems an open team now :P13:24
Riddellpardon?13:25
apacheloggerhttp://imagebin.ca/view/Wd-3M48a.html13:26
apacheloggerthat is the most crappy translation I have ever ever read of login13:26
apacheloggerin fact it is so horrible that probably google translate could do better13:26
Nightroseapachelogger: Oo13:27
Riddellbulldog98: anyway, please upload to staging13:32
bulldog98Riddell: preparing that13:32
bulldog98Riddell: will need some time to upload13:32
* bulldog98 loads the debian sources to the staging PPA will need ~half an hour13:34
bulldog98or less13:34
bulldog98Riddell: maybe I’ll do some more work this evening or tomorrow13:56
Riddellbulldog98: you can call more ninjas to the cause of 4.4.4 with ~ninjas in this irc channel13:57
txwikingerRiddell: anything I can help with13:57
txwikingerI have to do some paid work, but I get push some things in between13:57
txwikingers/get/can/13:58
Riddelltxwikinger: 4.4.4 needing packaged13:58
txwikingerdo we have a todo list?13:58
txwikinger4.4.4? Didn't we already work on 4.4.80?13:59
Riddellwe did but we need to cator for all markets, stable and unstable13:59
Riddellninjas13:59
Riddellhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/4.4.413:59
txwikingerRiddell: cool.. 14:00
Riddelltxwikinger: do you have access to ktown?14:00
txwikingerSince I don't know, I presume no :)14:01
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531130158-eo4m3ekzzhb137hs * src/libs/ (AuthenticationDBus.cpp AuthenticationDBus.h CMakeLists.txt) Generate AuthenticationDBus at build time14:02
* txwikinger wonders if ktown means Kaiserslautern :)14:02
Riddelltxwikinger: try  ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org14:03
txwikingerRiddell: what protocol? ftp?14:04
txwikingeror ssh?14:04
Riddellssh14:04
Riddellssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org14:04
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txwikingerhmm.. public key denied14:05
txwikingerI guess I would have to put my public key somewhere for that14:05
Riddelltxwikinger: try again14:05
Riddellwell I'm using the one on launchpad14:05
txwikingerah :)14:06
txwikingerlet me go to my other machine :)14:06
txwikingerRiddell: no doesn't work14:07
Riddelltxwikinger: try now14:08
txwikingerno14:08
ghostcubewoah we get 3.x kde back o.O14:08
Riddelltxwikinger: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ibUwFchT  that one?14:09
txwikingerRiddell: yes14:10
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531131102-dogbxan3tthh98tr * src/libs/CMakeLists.txt build++14:11
Riddelltxwikinger: well that's the one which is in there14:11
Riddelltxwikinger: got any others to try?14:11
txwikingerRiddell: not at the moment14:13
txwikingerwould have to create one14:13
Riddelllet me put them elsewhere14:15
txwikingerRiddell: it works now14:15
Riddellok grab from stable/4.4.4/src14:16
txwikingerok14:17
Riddelltxwikinger: pick a package, add your name in the line in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/4.4.4, grab the packaging from https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa14:17
Riddellconvert to .gz14:18
Riddellbuild it14:18
Riddellcheck for any new files (unlikely)14:18
Riddellput into staging PPA14:18
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531131815-023txmw436ezu0v9 * src/api/ (Api.cpp CMakeLists.txt) Make api try a login - still needs error handling14:18
txwikingerRiddell: ok14:18
* Riddell out for a bit14:18
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531132445-z5ehv043mh2ncinz * src/api/ (SubscriptionObject.cpp SubscriptionObject.h) private dptr for subscriptionobject14:24
agateauJontheEchidna: ping14:42
JontheEchidnaagateau: pong14:42
agateauJontheEchidna: hi, did you get my konversation indicator patch?14:42
JontheEchidnaagateau: yes. It doesn't seem to build, though :( I would have emailed, but my kmail was a bit busted14:43
agateauJontheEchidna: oh :( do you have an url for the build error?14:43
JontheEchidnaagateau: No, but I can get the build failure in about 10 minutes locally14:44
agateauJontheEchidna: sounds good14:44
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531134521-lpifvbmdsmsqq1fi * src/api/ (7 files) Shared D-Pointer for Subscription! + Merge Subscription classes in one file14:45
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531134708-npdj641k5t3ywylb * src/api/Subscription.h TODO++14:47
apacheloggerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/api/Subscription.h it is a beauty14:53
JontheEchidnaagateau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442292/15:01
debfxRiddell: I wrote that patch15:04
agateauJontheEchidna: where can I grab the source package?15:12
JontheEchidnasec15:12
JontheEchidnaagateau: dget http://people.ubuntu.com/~echidnaman/konversation_1.3~beta1-1ubuntu1.dsc15:15
apparleguys what is Q_Q macro15:15
agateauJontheEchidna: downloading15:16
agateauapparle: it is a magic Qt macro used inside of a *Private class,15:17
agateauapparle: after it you can use the q var to refer to the public class15:17
apparleagateau: do you have a link or something which would have an example implementation15:17
agateauapparle: mmm... Qt source code is full of this...15:18
agateauapparle: but I don't know where it's implemented15:18
agateauapparle: actually I do15:18
agateauapparle: it's in qglobal.h and it expands to:15:19
agateau#define Q_D(Class) Class##Private * const d = d_func()15:19
agateau#define Q_Q(Class) Class * const q = q_func()15:19
agateau(pasted Q_D while I was at it)15:19
apparleagateau: my bad..... i meant to say, do you have an usage example15:20
agateauapparle: look inside qt, it's used everywhere15:20
apparleagateau: ok15:20
agateauJontheEchidna: is it normal debian/patches/debian-changes-1.3\~beta1-1ubuntu1 contains changes which look like a revert of the indicator patch?15:30
JontheEchidnaagateau: mm, no. good catch.'15:30
agateauJontheEchidna: that's what I suspected :)15:30
agateauJontheEchidna: tell me if there are still other problems15:31
JontheEchidnawill do. Thanks again15:31
JontheEchidnaagateau: looks good15:37
agateauJontheEchidna: great!15:37
a|wenbulldog98: did you get to upload kdelibs to staging?15:37
agateauRiddell: if I provide you with a Qt patch for appmenu support today, will this be in alpha1?15:38
jussiright, so here is what Id really love to see. http://imagebin.ca/view/wN1IwXck.html :D (but a bit more polished than my krita'ing skills can manage) 15:58
jussiBasically, daisy dock, with the ability to add plasmoids to it (not just launchers) and a specially placed systray (or whatever people are calling it these days). 15:59
ScottKjussi: In KDE, it's called the systray.16:00
jussi:D16:01
jussiScottK: so what do you think? look like something acheivable?16:01
jussior even useful?16:01
ScottKNot trivially.16:01
jussiOK, thats what I was asking. :D16:01
ScottKIt requires widgets to overlap and interact in a way that they don't right now.16:02
jussiahh16:02
ScottKI think it looks cool.  Not sure how useful i would be.16:02
ScottK(but I hate OS X, so I'm probably not the best judge)16:03
jussiI think Ill have a word with the daisy people (once I go ask google who they are) to see if they are interested.16:03
jussiScottK: ooh, looks like they are working on something along the lines of what I was saying: http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7057/snapshot4r.jpg16:05
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ScottKIt used to be I'd see the complete lack of mention of Kubuntu in http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/05/track-desktop-and-une-in-maverick.html and get annoyed.  Now I'm convinced it's a feature.16:15
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apacheloggerfregl: linux distros are one patchy mess of implicit knowledge and public tools16:24
apacheloggerkubotu: np16:49
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "As One" by Dropkick Murphys [Blackout, 2003] [http://open.spotify.com/track/6gGQUPS2lFMzwcrJG4fnN4] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more16:49
CIA-92[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100531155033-r1qvfce2unpv85kg * COPYING Add gpl316:50
freglapachelogger: tell me something new :)17:24
apacheloggerseaLne: can you get some freenode staffer to help us hijack #fluffy? ^^17:32
apacheloggerseems deserted anyway17:32
tsimpsonapachelogger: you should speak to JvA17:34
apacheloggerfregl: you should speak to JvA, tsimpson says ;)17:40
* fregl kicks apachelogger :D17:40
apacheloggerpff17:41
apacheloggerfregl: I am doing the packaging :P17:41
fregltsimpson: query, or is there a staff channel?17:42
tsimpsonfregl: they aren't staff, but they are the owner of the channel. so /query :)17:42
freglhehe, ok17:43
Riddellagateau: hi, yes I could do a qt upload if you have a patch17:43
tsimpsonall staff will tell you is to ask the owner anyway, unless you file a Group Registration Form with freenode and wait about a year17:43
* apachelogger is all for #kde-fluffy if that fails17:43
apacheloggerfregl: dpkg-deb: building package `fluffy-unicorn' in `../fluffy-unicorn_0.0.0~alpha1_i386.deb'.17:43
jussiapachelogger: is it kubuntu based?17:44
tsimpson^ and hope KDE don't mind17:44
apacheloggerjussi: yeah17:44
apacheloggertsimpson: why should they?17:44
tsimpsonapachelogger: no reason, just freenode policy (blah, blah, blah)17:44
apacheloggerwe haz 50 likers on facebook!!! :P17:44
* fregl becomes all bouncy in anticipation ;)17:44
jussiapachelogger: #kubuntu-fluffy? :D :P17:44
apacheloggerthat would make it a kubuntu flavor, which it is not17:45
jussiawww... it should be!17:45
freglit isn't really official kde flavor either I'd say ;)17:45
tsimpsonone day, it probably will be17:45
freglit should be the official *buntu flavor :P17:46
tsimpsonbut I like blue too much ;)17:46
freglapachelogger: we should do a fluffy sprint17:46
jussiLOL17:46
apacheloggerfregl: totally17:46
apacheloggerfregl: so #ubuntu-fluffy?17:47
freglwe need sponsors...17:47
apacheloggersabdfl: ^ a friendly reminder ;)17:47
freglrofl, together with the facebook page that sounds about right17:47
apacheloggerkubotu: np17:48
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Boys on the Docks" by Dropkick Murphys [Live on St. Patrick's Day] [http://open.spotify.com/track/3OBMOFQLsOFrhv2b9REB4h] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more17:48
debfxScottK: congrats on becoming a DD!17:52
macoyou're a DD now?17:52
macoshiiiiiiiiiiiny17:52
jussiScottK: Congrats!17:53
apacheloggerkubotu: topic add \o \o ScottK is now Debian overlord o/ o/17:53
=== kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ninjas packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/4.4.4 4.5 beta https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | \o \o ScottK is now Debian overlord o/ o/
Riddelland remember, you too can be a debian developer after only two and a half years17:54
JontheEchidna\o/17:54
=== Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz
Nightrosecongrats ScottK17:58
jjessecongrats ScottK17:58
apacheloggerkubotu: topic add Fluffy will be based on Kubuntu17:58
=== kubotu changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ninjas packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/4.4.4 4.5 beta https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | \o \o ScottK is now Debian overlord o/ o/ | Fluffy will be based on Kubuntu
Riddelloh why is the kubuntu website broken?18:23
Riddellcan't edit anything now18:23
neversfeldecongratulations ScottK18:24
ScottKneversfelde: Thanks.18:26
ScottKRiddell: "enhanced security from changes"18:26
apacheloggerXand3r: ping18:36
Xand3rjarp?18:37
apacheloggerXand3r: when will my groupies group get some better looking? :P18:38
apacheloggeryou could really ditch in a pic of me at the very least ^^18:38
Xand3rapachelogger: i dont know18:39
apacheloggerNightrose: what blog post to publish? the one about qjson or the one about the lack of scheduling software?18:39
apacheloggerXand3r: you could make Nightrose admin, she sure will know how to groupiefy the page ^^18:39
Nightroseapachelogger: scheduling18:39
apacheloggerNightrose: got time to review the content?18:40
* apachelogger thinks that some sort of ending is missing18:40
Nightroseok18:40
ScottKIs anyone already investigating why kdemultimedia FTBFS?18:49
Riddellsomething up with the codec packages?18:51
RiddellI've not looked into it18:51
neversfeldefor 4.4.4 we update the packages in the updates ppa, right?18:51
ScottKRiddell: I'll have a look.18:53
Riddellneversfelde: yes, building in staging now then moving to updates when complete and tested18:53
Riddellget the 4.4.3 packaging from updates ppa to start18:54
neversfeldeRiddell: k, thank you, I was not sure, if there are "official" packages in the archive somewhere18:54
ScottKRiddell: The problem is libavutil50 in Universe.18:55
ScottKRiddell: Source is already in Main.18:57
ScottKIf you can promote it in the next 6 minutes, then we can retry in 51...18:57
* Riddell hears the timer from 24 counting18:58
RiddellScottK: done!18:58
ScottKExcellent.  Thanks.18:58
* apachelogger is mirroring the ubuntu archive \\o/19:20
apacheloggerfregl: first package of fluffy-unicorn built btw19:23
freglI bet it took ages to compile :P19:24
freglapachelogger: you rock!19:24
apacheloggerfregl: it took 4 minutes!!! :P19:26
apacheloggeralso the source tar is like 5 mib19:26
freglhehe19:26
freglbloat!19:26
apacheloggerwhich seems a bit big considering the amount of content19:26
freglI bet our users care much... well 50% of them19:26
freglgood thing we don't have any users yet19:27
apacheloggerits more about the developers :P19:27
freglexcept us...19:27
apacheloggeruploading 5 mib takes longer than 2 :P19:27
freglah, I see19:27
freglso we need to trim that19:27
apacheloggeryeah, though I think I suqeeze already a lot using the buid magic19:27
freglapachelogger: what did you include? just the stuff we have on gitorious? will it automatically paint everything pink by magic?19:27
apacheloggercause there is this awesome too git-buildpackage which builds me a debian source right off the git branch19:28
apacheloggerfregl: no automagics yet19:28
apacheloggerincludes icon, kopete, parley, plasma19:28
freglit's a beginning :)19:28
apacheloggerto override the defaults I suppse we should go the kubuntu way and just sneak into the config cascading (saves us patching etc.)19:29
apacheloggeralso, I cannot include your rekonq stuff becuase it would conflict with the rekonq package and dpkg would be all whiny about that ;)19:29
freglI know19:29
apacheloggerwith cascaded configs we can work around that19:29
fregltoo bad it doesn't support proper themeing19:30
apacheloggerthat is if rekonq actually does a cascaded lookup19:30
apachelogger[ 26%] Getting: pool/main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-dbg_4.4.80-0ubuntu2_i386.deb... pool/main/k/kdebase-workspace/kdebase-workspace-dbg_4.4.80-0ubuntu2_i386.deb failed 500 Server closed connection without sending any data back19:30
apacheloggerbrrr19:30
* apachelogger thinks that once he is done mirroring he will updates his mirror again ^^19:31
ScottKRiddell: What's the plan for kdebindings?19:47
ScottKI see ubuntu2 is rejected and ubuntu1 can't build because the source is superceded.19:48
RiddellScottK: was going to look at it tonight if nobody else had got to it20:22
ScottKOK.  Good luck.20:23
* ScottK tries hard to look busy with other things.20:23
ScottKapachelogger: You have comments awaiting moderation.20:35
* apachelogger puts his moderator hat on20:36
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apacheloggerah20:38
* apachelogger was waiting for that ^^20:38
apacheloggerScottK: see, the fact that this is not documented is what I was ranting about earlier when I said that distros are a patchy pool of implict knowledge :P20:38
apacheloggerScottK: whom would one be asking about summit.ubuntu.com?20:38
ScottKapachelogger: I'd try jcastro.20:39
ScottKKeybuck developed it, but isn't allowed to work on it anymore because he's fixing boot stuff.20:39
apacheloggerScottK, Nightrose: http://www.pentabarf.org/Main_Page20:59
apacheloggerlooks promising at first glance20:59
apacheloggerI mean, it looks like crap, but the functionallity looks promising ;)20:59
ScottKUnfortunately it talks about ruby gems and stuff.21:00
ScottKAlmost a guarantee of upstream insanity.21:00
Nightroseapachelogger: any demo of it anywhere?21:01
apacheloggerNightrose: getting one setup21:01
Nightrosecool21:01
apacheloggerScottK: it is made using rails, so it almost certainly must be talking about gems ;)21:03
apacheloggerargh21:06
apacheloggerNightrose: dont have no psql access on kollide :(21:06
Nightrosempfh21:06
neversfeldebulldog98: ping21:07
* apachelogger really wished he had the money to run a proper server for his projects -.-21:13
neversfeldebulldog98: I build kdelibs 4.4.4 and will upload it to staging, so that we can go ahead21:14
apacheloggergemming and mirroring at the same time is a bad idea21:17
RiddellNightrose: we used pentabarf for akademy 2007 although on the day the server was busy and it failed21:19
NightroseRiddell: hehe 21:20
Nightrosebad21:20
Riddellbut not the fault of pentabarf, or so seaLne said21:20
RiddellNightrose: how's the amarok release going?21:20
NightroseRiddell: since i'm doing it alone it'll take another 30 mins at least21:21
Nightrose:/21:21
macothats the thing debconf uses for registration right?21:21
Riddellmaco: yes21:22
RiddellMamarok: fancy testing 4.5 beta again from experimental?21:23
Nightroseah drupal i love you for deleting my text21:23
Nightrose\o/21:23
MamarokRiddell: I tired a few minutes ago, digikam is still to be removed here21:24
Mamaroktried*21:24
stefan___does anyone of those with a working kde 4.5 beta1 see the blur effect?21:26
apacheloggerNightrose: https://edge.launchpad.net/summit21:31
apacheloggersupposedly it only works with the launchpad blueprints system21:31
RiddellMamarok: I just copied it over but it's not published yet, let's wait a few minutes21:33
Riddellstefan___: no I don't21:33
stefan___Riddell: but its enabled in your system settings?21:34
Riddellyes21:36
KRFapachelogger: added lucid-proposed, upgraded, restarted, started kontact, got this: http://krf.kollide.net/files/image/kubuntu-akonadi-failure.png21:36
stefan___Riddell: u think its a packaging issue or upstream?21:38
apacheloggerKRF: what does details say?21:38
KRF"keine resourcen-vermittler gefunden"21:40
apacheloggerohm21:43
apacheloggerKRF: completel log to apachelogger@ubuntu.com please21:43
KRFdoes it work for you or what?21:43
apacheloggerapt-cache policy kdepimlibs5 too21:43
apacheloggerKRF: it always did21:43
* apachelogger needs to test in a vm21:45
KRFits easy to reproduce for me, install kubuntu on a vm, start kontact -> whoops21:45
KRFtest it, yeah21:45
KRFi dont have the time to do so right now ;)21:46
RiddellMamarok: should be published, want to try again?21:48
Riddellstefan___: I see an explanation has been found in #kde-d21:49
stefan___Riddell: you mean the 64bit issue?21:50
Riddellyes21:50
neversfeldeninja wiki mentions that we should call the packages ~lucid1~ppa1, but in updates the packages are called ~ppa1, which is correct?21:51
debfxRiddell: do you know if there were conflicts of qt keywords with glib before?21:52
neversfeldeit does not matter, I think?21:52
a|wenneversfelde: as 4.4.80 is in maverick it doesn't matter afaics21:54
neversfeldek, I called kdelibs ~lucid1~ppa121:54
Riddellneversfelde: better to use ~lucid1~ppa1 in the hope we might get it into lucid-updates which would use ~lucid121:54
neversfeldeso I think we should use this21:54
neversfeldeRiddell: k21:54
Riddelldebfx: hmm, I don't think so21:54
a|wenneversfelde: i used the same for kdepimlibs (requires 4.4.4 kdelibs to even testbuilt, so a stalled atm)21:55
neversfeldegood21:56
neversfeldekdelibs should be build in 1 h or so21:56
a|wencool21:56
MamarokRiddell: Trying right now21:57
debfxRiddell: I think kipi-plugins fails to build for the same reason21:57
ryanakca'grats ScottK 21:59
ryanakcaRiddell: Manage to edit?21:59
Riddellryanakca: nope22:00
Riddellryanakca: can you?22:00
Riddellryanakca: first load of a page it has the Edit tab, second it doesn't22:01
Riddelldebfx: same as digikam?22:01
debfxRiddell: not sure, which digikam upload fails to build?22:03
Riddellwell the build-depends have changed with 4.5 so I had to change them22:04
Riddelldebfx: what's up with kipi-plugins?  glib symbols issue?22:04
ryanakcaRiddell: hmmm... works here :/22:04
Riddellryanakca: you might have to put up an amarok story shortly then :)22:05
debfxRiddell: a glib header file contains a variable called "signals"22:05
ryanakcaRiddell: Alright22:05
Riddelldebfx: oh that's evil22:07
debfxI'm surprised that this doesn't happen more often22:07
bulldog98neversfelde: was my kdelibs rejectet? or didn‘t it uploaded completlly22:07
neversfeldebulldog98: don't know22:08
neversfeldeit was not there22:08
neversfeldeyou should got a mail from lp about it22:09
bulldog98neversfelde: looking22:09
neversfeldebulldog98: I already uploaded kdleibs22:09
bulldog98neversfelde: saw it22:09
bulldog98but think ~ppa would be enought, cause they won’t go to maverick22:10
bulldog98neversfelde: will build other part22:11
neversfeldebulldog98: as Riddell mentioned above it is better to use ~lucid1 because of the lucid-backports22:11
bulldog98neversfelde: ok22:11
debfxany ideas on how to resolve such name conflicts?22:22
Riddelldebfx: rename the symbol in kipi?  I doubt glib will rename it22:29
RiddellMamarok: any luck?22:29
MamarokRiddell: that wen very wrong, I got this error:  Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-dev_4%3a4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2_amd64.deb22:30
MamarokE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)22:30
Riddellwaa22:30
Riddellwhat was the error?22:30
Mamarokand now it tries to remove half of KDE when trying to rerun apt-get -f -install22:30
Mamarokkdebase-worksapce seems to have quite a few unresolved dependencies22:30
Mamaroklet me check again22:30
debfxRiddell: sure I can write a patch like the one in amarok, but "#undef symbols" really is an ugly workaround22:31
Mamarokgrr, I can't even use pastebin anymore, half of my stuff is not updated22:31
Mamarokattention, 5 lines coming:22:32
MamarokThe following packages have unmet dependencies:22:32
Mamarok  kdebase-workspace-dev: Depends: libksignalplotter4 (= 4:4.4.3-0ubuntu1~ppa4) but 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 is installed22:32
Mamarok                         Depends: liblsofui4 (= 4:4.4.3-0ubuntu1~ppa4) but 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 is installed22:32
Mamarok                         Depends: libksgrd4 (= 4:4.4.3-0ubuntu1~ppa4) but 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 is installed22:32
MamarokE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.22:32
debfxs/symbols/signals22:32
RiddellMamarok: what's   apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace-dev   say?22:33
Mamarokkdebase-workspace-dev:22:34
Mamarok  Installed: 4:4.4.3-0ubuntu1~ppa422:34
Mamarok  Candidate: 4:4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa222:34
Mamarokshould it udate this separately? How?22:34
Mamarokjust installing?22:34
Mamarokwhich is even worse, now I have an even longer list of unmet deps22:35
Mamarok14 in total, some are not going to be installed22:36
RiddellMamarok: what does this give you?   sudo dpkg --install /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-dev_4%3a4.4.80-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2_amd64.deb22:36
apacheloggeromg22:42
* apachelogger starts crying22:42
apacheloggerI think I have figured ubuntu-cdimage out22:42
apacheloggersort of22:42
apacheloggerfregl: ^^^^22:42
MamarokRiddell: it's a perpetuum mobile: 22:46
Mamarokdpkg: error processing kdebase-workspace-dev (--install):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured22:46
MamarokErrors were encountered while processing:  kdebase-workspace-dev22:46
Mamaroksnake bit's its tail22:47
apachelogger-rw-rw-r-- 1 me me 708M 2010-05-31 23:43 www/full/kubuntu/daily/20100531.7/maverick-alternate-i386.iso22:47
apacheloggerhm22:47
apacheloggerRiddell: is maverick currently oversized?22:47
Riddellapachelogger: I've not looked22:48
MamarokI try to run dpkg -a --configure, amybe that helps22:48
apacheloggerRiddell: yes overzied it is22:48
apacheloggerRiddell: also, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ includes lucid images?22:49
Riddellryanakca: Amarok 2.3.1 released, care to do a quick story?  it's in maverick and kubuntu-ppa/backports22:49
MamarokRiddell: that didn't help at all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442472/22:50
RiddellMamarok: fooey, sorry about this, not sure what's up, maybe something else you have installed like one of those plasmoids is trying to stay installed and won't let the new kdebase-workspace stuff come in22:56
RiddellI'll need to try some tests22:56
MamarokI can try removing some of these widgets22:57
MamarokRiddell: the problem lies probably in plasma-widgets-workspace23:00
Mamarokall the libs try to remoe that when I check23:00
Mamarokremove*23:00
Mamarok" all my kdebase etc23:01
Mamarok+23:01
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neversfeldea|wen: kdelibs is build and workspace is dep-wait23:20
neversfeldehave to sleep, gn823:20
a|wenneversfelde: perfect ... just buildint kdepimlibs now23:20
a|wens/int/ing/g23:20
RiddellMamarok: meh, upgrades fine for me23:23
* apachelogger fiddles with reprepo23:24
RiddellMamarok: well I need to sleep, got a cold23:25
MamarokRiddell: now what? I can't stay with a half installed machine23:25
Mamarokget better soon23:25
RiddellMamarok: worst case you can disable the PPA, apt-get remove libqtcore4 and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop23:26
MamarokI guess I will do that23:26
RiddellMamarok: sorry for the hassle and thanks for being a guinea pig23:26
MamarokRiddell: I am used to it :)23:27
Mamarokjust don't ship it in that state, or users will kill you23:27
Mamarokwhat about the ETA for KDE 4.4.4?23:27
Riddelltomorrow evening would be nice for 4.4.4, something to aim for23:29
Mamarokoh, sounds good :)23:34
txwikingerhehe we are working on that :)23:38
* txwikinger is waiting for the libs to build23:38
a|wentxwikinger: it is built23:40
a|wen(i suppose you mean kdelibs)23:41
txwikingerwell.. I need kdepimlibs too23:41
txwikingerand the other one that is waiting for kdepimlibs atm :)23:41
a|wentxwikinger: just uploaded kdepimlibs ;)23:41
* fregl hugs apachelogger23:41
txwikingeryeah.. I saw it23:42
* txwikinger is going to a meeting23:45

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