[06:29] is there an faq about what things you can buy that will run ubuntu arm? [06:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/DeviceSupport [06:35] Beagleboard is nice... but wait for the xM. [06:42] yeah i've been looking at that [06:42] also heard a few things about the HP Airlife 100 [06:42] sure thats an android device but whatever [06:42] im sure if it were to actually get sold somewhere other than spain [06:43] people might run ubuntu on it ;) [06:43] the xm is a nokia phone? [06:47] airlife is snapdragon based isn't it? [06:52] http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02104127/c02104127.pdf [06:53] http://www.h-online.com/news/item/MWC-2010-Android-everywhere-931988.html [06:54] airlife has weird touchpad buttons. [06:55] required by android I think [06:55] http://beagleboard.org/hardware-xM [06:55] I hope they still register as 1, 2, 3. [06:55] extra? [06:55] extra cortex [06:55] could that hub by a switch (vlan enabled)? [06:56] oh it's a usb hub [06:56] SMSC LAN9514. [06:57] USB hub + ethernet in one chip. [07:04] I wonder what that means for ethernet to usb hdd performance [07:06] well, if it's ntfs-3g, it's Le Suck, any way you slice it. [07:07] NTFS-3G is Le Suck even on eSATA. [07:08] why would I use NTFS on a linux box? [07:09] I mean, a filesystem with full windows ACL support would be nice for running a samba file server, but I don't think the ntfs-3g code can do that, even if ntfs supports that [07:10] ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/open_source/Handheld/AirLife100/kernel.tar.gz [07:23] i want to get an arm netbook or tablet.. im kind of waiting for google to make it a reality [07:59] good morning everyone === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:05] morning [08:09] snadge: chrome os? [08:09] what's the difference between that and meego+chrome or ubuntu lite+chrome? === JaMa|Zzz is now known as JaMa|Wrk [08:22] i wouldn't say theres much difference apart from chromeos has a chance of succeeding.. the others probably dont [08:22] by succeed i mean, gain a meaningful percentage of the market share [08:22] beyond 3 hobbyist geeks [08:23] most of the arm stuff so far is aimed at tinkerers who dont care if stuff is broken [08:24] excluding the new apple products which are closed and completely useless from the perspective of most people in here [08:37] snadge: I'm wondering, I think having the OS featues of Chrome is a big win, but being able to alt-tab to a traditional desktop has it's benifits === XorA|gone is now known as XorA === cooloney is now known as cooloney-afk [15:15] asac: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/u-boot/u-boot-git/beagleboard contains patches for bbxm u-boot [15:15] hi [15:15] which network things were supported by the installer? [15:15] ho neure [15:15] something that i can turn usb to ethernet? [15:16] the adapter that i have is not supported :/ [15:16] hrw, is there anything thats not in sarkomans branch ? (i'm currently working on updating the u-boot packages) [15:17] ogra: no idea - I know that this patchset is maintained by Koen Kooi and used on bbxm [15:18] hrm [15:18] i know that the XM patches entered the sarkoman branch short before lucid released [15:18] i wonder which are better/newer [15:19] Xm rev A was added today [15:22] hrw, do you - or anyone - know if the apple usb to ethernet adapter is supported by the installer? [15:22] and they work on my xm board... those zippy (expansion board) patches are nice too.. ;) [15:22] neure: I use dm9601 cheap adapters [15:22] hrw, hmm, i really perfer to keep building the package from one upstream branch [15:23] but I did not used [15:23] neure: but I did not used them during installation [15:23] i want to try ubuntu but i cant until i get adapter that works during installation [15:24] I used netbook install [15:25] you installed to usb? well for me, installing to usb doesnt work :/ [15:26] I did [15:26] you have C2/C3? [15:27] C2 [15:27] i tried with two different powered usb hubs and two different usb sticks [15:28] my C3 works better after 0.22uF capacitor hack [15:44] GCC begins move to C++http://lwn.net/Articles/390016/rss [16:02] asac, i'll update u-boot-omap3 from http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap3-v2010.3 FYI [16:45] neure: i have problems with usb hubs as well === JaMa|Wrk is now known as JaMa === hrw is now known as hrw|gone === XorA is now known as XorA|gone === sbambrough is now known as scottb-lunch === scottb-lunch is now known as sbambrough [18:50] amitk ?