[06:29] <snadge> is there an faq about what things you can buy that will run ubuntu arm?
[06:32] <snadge> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/DeviceSupport
[06:35] <DanaG> Beagleboard is nice... but wait for the xM.
[06:42] <snadge> yeah i've been looking at that
[06:42] <snadge> also heard a few things about the HP Airlife 100
[06:42] <snadge> sure thats an android device but whatever
[06:42] <snadge> im sure if it were to actually get sold somewhere other than spain
[06:43] <snadge> people might run ubuntu on it ;)
[06:43] <snadge> the xm is a nokia phone?
[06:47] <tmzt> airlife is snapdragon based isn't it?
[06:52] <tmzt> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02104127/c02104127.pdf
[06:53] <tmzt> http://www.h-online.com/news/item/MWC-2010-Android-everywhere-931988.html
[06:54] <DanaG> airlife has weird touchpad buttons.
[06:55] <tmzt> required by android I think
[06:55] <DanaG> http://beagleboard.org/hardware-xM
[06:55] <DanaG> I hope they still register as 1, 2, 3.
[06:55] <tmzt> extra?
[06:55] <tmzt> extra cortex
[06:55] <tmzt> could that hub by a switch (vlan enabled)?
[06:56] <tmzt> oh it's a usb hub
[06:56] <DanaG> SMSC LAN9514.
[06:57] <DanaG> USB hub + ethernet in one chip.
[07:04] <kblin> I wonder what that means for ethernet to usb hdd performance
[07:06] <DanaG> well, if it's ntfs-3g, it's Le Suck, any way you slice it.
[07:07] <DanaG> NTFS-3G is Le Suck even on eSATA.
[07:08] <kblin> why would I use NTFS on a linux box?
[07:09] <kblin> I mean, a filesystem with full windows ACL support would be nice for running a samba file server, but I don't think the ntfs-3g code can do that, even if ntfs supports that
[07:10] <tmzt> ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/open_source/Handheld/AirLife100/kernel.tar.gz
[07:23] <snadge> i want to get an arm netbook or tablet.. im kind of waiting for google to make it a reality
[07:59] <zyga> good morning everyone
[08:05] <hrw> morning
[08:09] <tmzt> snadge: chrome os?
[08:09] <tmzt> what's the difference between that and meego+chrome or ubuntu lite+chrome?
[08:22] <snadge> i wouldn't say theres much difference apart from chromeos has a chance of succeeding.. the others probably dont
[08:22] <snadge> by succeed i mean, gain a meaningful percentage of the market share
[08:22] <snadge> beyond 3 hobbyist geeks
[08:23] <snadge> most of the arm stuff so far is aimed at tinkerers who dont care if stuff is broken
[08:24] <snadge> excluding the new apple products which are closed and completely useless from the perspective of most people in here
[08:37] <tmzt> snadge: I'm wondering, I think having the OS featues of Chrome is a big win, but being able to alt-tab to a traditional desktop has it's benifits
[15:15] <hrw> asac: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/u-boot/u-boot-git/beagleboard contains patches for bbxm u-boot
[15:15] <neure> hi
[15:15] <neure> which network things were supported by the installer?
[15:15] <hrw> ho neure
[15:15] <neure> something that i can turn usb to ethernet?
[15:16] <neure> the adapter that i have is not supported :/
[15:16] <ogra> hrw, is there anything thats not in sarkomans branch ? (i'm currently working on updating the u-boot packages)
[15:17] <hrw> ogra: no idea - I know that this patchset is maintained by Koen Kooi and used on bbxm
[15:18] <ogra> hrm
[15:18] <ogra> i know that the XM patches entered the sarkoman branch short before lucid released
[15:18] <ogra> i wonder which are better/newer
[15:19] <hrw> Xm rev A was added today
[15:22] <neure> hrw, do you - or anyone - know if the apple usb to ethernet adapter is supported by the installer?
[15:22] <rcn-ee_lpt> and they work on my xm board... those zippy (expansion board) patches are nice too.. ;)
[15:22] <hrw> neure: I use dm9601 cheap adapters
[15:22] <ogra> hrw, hmm, i really perfer to keep building the package from one upstream branch
[15:23] <hrw>  but I did not used
[15:23] <hrw> neure: but I did not used them during installation
[15:23] <neure> i want to try ubuntu but i cant until i get adapter that works during installation
[15:24] <hrw> I used netbook install
[15:25] <neure> you installed to usb? well for me, installing to usb doesnt work :/
[15:26] <hrw> I did
[15:26] <hrw> you have C2/C3?
[15:27] <neure> C2
[15:27] <neure> i tried with two different powered usb hubs and two different usb sticks
[15:28] <hrw> my C3 works better after 0.22uF capacitor hack
[15:44] <amitk> GCC begins move to C++http://lwn.net/Articles/390016/rss
[16:02] <ogra> asac, i'll update u-boot-omap3 from http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap3-v2010.3 FYI
[16:45] <xorAxAx> neure: i have problems with usb hubs as well
[18:50] <mpoirier> amitk ?