[00:23] having an interesting problem with my DVD drive -- it can show the directory listing but can't read any of the data itself. [00:25] http://pastebin.com/3g1TRrV7 [00:29] hi guys i have 50 PC unit want to used UNE to install, how to install them on a fastest way and all pc dont have disc drive..any suggestion...? === tyler_d8 is now known as tyler_d [00:39] I am trying to install 10.04 64 bit and upon detecting the hard-drives it comes up with "Configure iSCSI volumes" I have tried 4 different hard drives, and I don't have an iscsi device, nor even a scsi drive, they are all sata drives....? [00:41] iSCSI is related to SAN. Is it only giving you iSCSI as an option? [00:41] julianc: yes, only the iSCSI option, or roll back, which just kills the system [00:42] it would appear that their is an option that is simply not there, ie. just whitespace that you can select - no menu option associated with it. [00:43] Tried using an alternate install disc or network install? [00:43] I have also tried to install install using a different usb device, thinking that this may be a corrupt installation genre - with the same result [00:43] would love to try a network install, however never done it [00:44] Did you get any messages about needing to load additional drivers for disk controllers? [00:45] no disk controllers involved, straight off the board, an xfx nvidia [00:45] 680i [00:45] ensured that the fakeraid was turned "off" [00:45] and have even flashed the bios for good measure [00:52] I have just changed to a different sata - changed the usb port that was being used, and restarted, and somehow now it has picked it up [00:52] however thats just silly [00:56] You were installing from a flash drive? [00:57] yes, I still am [01:41] does samba share files over the WAN or LAN only? [01:49] Samba can share files over any network (even over the Internet). [01:50] Automatic detection of computers in a workgroup/domain is limited by subnet. [01:52] Ideally, one would keep Samba shares behind a firewall. Even if not using workgroups/domain as a major part of local network infrastructure, it's possible to just point to the Samba share by hostname/IP. [02:04] julianc- thanks. I think what I want to do, is create an openssh or SFTP server then [02:14] Zelda, samba can share on both, and to setup ssh server just go to terminal and type "apt-get install openssh" [02:14] Zelda, sorry its just "ssh" not openssh [02:15] bogey6: thanks! === bogeyd6- is now known as bogeyd6 [02:31] hmm === bogeyd6 is now known as Guest85094 === Guest85094 is now known as bogeyd6- [02:44] Ok, so I'll create a share on my LAN so I can stream stuff to my xbox360. And for the later, should I install openssh? This has sftp correct? This would be for the people that are on different subnets and over the WAN. [02:45] heres what I want to do to make it short. I want to have a server where my family can access it from their computers. They are not on my LAN. however I want to be able to share files and have them backup their machines on my server. Whats the best procedure to do this? (meaning the easiest) [02:46] Or people are using PS3mediaserver.. is that easy to setup for my xbox360? [02:48] trying to create a server, and run sw raid 1 and then backup to a drobo eventually. [02:49] or question, is raid 1 good to run if say your primary hdd gets corrupted, it could corrupt the secondary couldnt it? [02:51] Can the Xbox 360 use SFTP natively, or at all? [02:57] No. You can create like a "share" network drive on the xbox, but no sftp [02:58] hi, why do many prefer command line on servers wothout gui? ive been using ubuntu server with gui and find it easier with gui [02:58] what gui you using? [02:58] A GUI can consume precious resources that the server could otherwise be putting to good use. [02:59] people use servers jmazaredo for resource intensive multiuser applications and adding a GUI where none is called for takes away from those scarce resources [02:59] indeed. [02:59] yes but administering will be lot easier right? [03:00] and with resources nowaday just a little it will consume [03:00] servers ranging from 8 to 16gb ram a gnome or any gui will just use some [03:01] It could be easier, sure. One thing I sometimes do is install a few GUI-based tools, and run them over SSH with X11 forwarding turned on. That way, I have access to GUI tools without needing to have a desktop environment always running. [03:01] New bug: #587717 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient16 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: intentando sobreescribir «/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16.0.0», que está también en el paquete mysql-cluster-client-5.1 0:7.0.9-1ubuntu7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587717 [03:01] jmazaredo, administration ends up being more complicated the more servers you have running [03:01] yes thats why i use gui [03:01] anyone get my question, as to what im trying to do? [03:02] log into my 850 servers one by one and see why multissh is ftw [03:02] julianc: however like I am finding right now, utils like disk-util don't work well on remote connect, and quite often kill the server on X-forward [03:02] 850 servers damn! [03:02] Zelda, no, im not clear on what you are trying to do [03:02] if im using cli i will be doomed [03:03] Zelda: since the Xbox is Windows-based, it might be a good idea to go with Samba, since it's lowest common denominator for all the systems involved. [03:04] Much easier to set up Samba as a file server if you don't have to have authentication. [03:04] bogeyd6: Im trying to build a server. I want to have my family backup to it and beable to share files and such. These family are not on my LAN, but over WAN. I want to know what I need to do to have them be able to backup/share files on my server. / [03:04] is this WAN internet based? [03:05] julianc: yes. Thats what I was thinking using Samba for my intranet [03:05] bogeyd6: yes [03:05] obviously I want the most secure way of doing that. [03:06] So on the intranet, use samba to share a network drive to other computers, including the xbox360. for Media. (i.e movies, music, photos) [03:06] I can think of no easy way [03:07] however for the family that is on the WAN (internet) whats the easiest way to create a server? [03:07] The most secure method is obviously samba and vpn. The easiest is just samba with security = user. The fastest is probably to think of something else [03:07] create an openssh and have them create accounts? [03:08] yeah I dont want to really use ftp since its terribly slow. [03:08] having your whole family ssh is probably not in the realm of realistic [03:08] yeah. true... [03:08] so what is possible? VPN? [03:09] so ftp would be the easiest then for people outside my lan right? [03:10] i'm really wanting to go with the samba +vpn. if its the most secure. [03:11] My router will support up to 5 VPN tunnels I think so I could have up to 5 people at once. [03:11] Samba is def the way to go [03:11] even with out VPN [03:11] !samba [03:11] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [03:11] :) [03:11] !vpn [03:11] For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN [03:11] I thought samba wasnt secure over WAN. [03:11] :PP [03:12] samba is secure if you set the security level to user [03:12] then each person just maps a network drive with their username and password. easy as pie [03:12] Ok, i'll do some reading. thanks for pointing me in the right directino. [03:12] That will require setting up the Samba server as its own domain controller, IIRC. [03:13] julianc, negative ghostrider [03:13] the pattern is full. ... [03:13] samba will just use its local user/pass file [03:13] zelda setting up samba only takes about 4 minutes or so [03:14] thanks. I will read on it. I may mess with it in a vm first before I acutally implement it out right. [03:14] the guide makes it look overly complicated but in reality you only install it, set security = user, then setup your shares for each person. [03:14] oh thats real easy [03:14] i can post a share if you would like to see how one is setup [03:15] sure, that would be cool [03:15] you think an old p4 2gb ram is enough for that? [03:15] New bug: #587722 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-core-5.1 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: intentando sobreescribir «/usr/bin/my_print_defaults», que está también en el paquete mysql-cluster-server-5.1 0:7.0.9-1ubuntu7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587722 [03:15] New bug: #587724 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-client-core-5.1 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: intentando sobreescribir «/usr/bin/mysql», que está también en el paquete mysql-cluster-client-5.1 0:7.0.9-1ubuntu7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587724 [03:16] I was thinking about getting something more energy efficient though [03:16] Should be more than enough, as long as it isn't churning 24/7. [03:16] Zelda, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/442029/ [03:17] think it will be just fine unless you plan on watching dvd quality movies over that net link [03:17] julianc: what if i am planning on running it 24/7 but not accessing it constantly. [03:17] bogeyd6: yeah I may eventually do that. [03:17] Zelda, obviously you dont want public = yes [03:17] Im thinking of getting new hardware.. intel or amd.. I have some specs for though [03:17] glad i could help, gl [03:18] bogeyd6:indeed [03:19] I was planning on getting newer hardware, I have an i3-530 system spec'd out or an amd phenom II x2 specd. sound like that would work fine? [03:19] what kind of hdds? [03:19] storage subsystem is where its going to count the most [03:21] im using windows 7 for work in a vmware image rite now. i gotta say wow, makes me want to leave ubuntu [03:25] bogeyd6-: I'm not stopping you. [03:26] standard sata 3gb 500gb [03:26] sorry had to get the cake iced. :P [03:26] twb, ty trent [03:26] Zelda, prob not fast enough [03:27] sas? [03:27] i would drop the specs on that m/b proc and upgrade to scsi or sas drives, 15k rpms should do it [03:27] or get the 6gb [03:27] cdw outlet prob has some rocking sas drives for around 100 each, score about 8 of them and put into a storageworks card or w/e [03:28] then I might as well get like an hp ml series server. [03:28] depends on your fluidity [03:29] were talking about $1k [03:29] you dont think 3gb sata or 6gb sata would be fast enouhg? [03:29] Zelda: what is this host for? [03:30] samba server [03:30] and backup server. [03:31] We have a lot of hosts like that, serving small businesses (say, twenty people). [03:31] We just use normal SATA in an md RAID1 or RAID5. [03:31] yeah thats what I was thinking. [03:32] sas or scsi yet superior.. gets expensive on a budget [03:32] making a md raid 5 with like 1t or so.. maybe more. [03:32] or raid 1 for 1Tb [03:33] TB rather * [03:33] Well, we'd normally buy disks with the best dollars-per-byte count [03:33] Which is around 750 or 1TB at the moment [03:33] No matter what size you buy, the users will fill it up [03:33] well then i guess its 2 1TB for a TB of storage [03:33] and then just add to it [03:34] With RAID5, you lose one drive to parity, so of 3×1TB you get 2TB effective. [03:34] yeah I know how raid works. [03:34] OK :-) [03:34] :) [03:34] I worked at HP for 3 years, building servers.. heh [03:35] My sympathy [03:35] now I work at Cisco! [03:35] Ha! [03:36] My biggest bitch about cisco is their entry-level units run vxworks or something instead of IOS or linux [03:36] bogeyd6: Thanks for the point in the right direction. [03:36] julianc: you too [03:36] You're welcome. [03:37] hahah ! yeah I know what you mean.. [03:37] To get a shell on this one here I have to ssh in (which gives me a crippled menu interface) then hit ^Z to suspend it and get a shell [03:37] wtf is with the VXworks garbage anyhow? [03:37] Zelda: the advantage over linux is that it can run in 8MB instead of 16MB [03:37] AFAICT [03:38] so you think that getting 3 1TB SATA would be quick enough for say roughly 10 people? [03:38] over the internet [03:38] Well, over the internet, the bottleneck will probably be the internet [03:39] Cf. disk speed, bus speed, and (say) ADSL2+ speed. [03:39] yeah, I wish I got utopia... they dont offer it in my area.. [03:39] :( [03:40] we got docsis 3.0 at my house, 55mbs [03:40] but thats fast enough for people to use for a backup though [03:40] lucky you man.. I only have 20mbps [03:40] bogeyd6-: you can't get more than 22mbps (theoretical maximum) in my country [03:40] I'm slumming on 5. DOCSIS 3.0 is in the works. [03:41] thats a shame [03:41] it bounces from 46-55 but you gonna see 5.6MB/s downloads [03:41] Comcast will support 3.0. I dont have the bandwidth. Im not going to pay them 100+ a month for just me.. heh [03:41] Outside the major cities it's dialup (56kbps) uplink combined with satellite [03:41] twb, ick [03:42] ha, where do you live? Canada? [03:43] that really sucks though. [03:43] .au [03:43] ah... yeah that makes sense. [03:44] lol, give some kangaroo's some adrenaline shots.. heheh [03:45] well thanks twb for the advice as well. === twister is now known as twister1 === twister1 is now known as register === register is now known as Guest94168 === Guest94168 is now known as twister23 [05:28] This is apparmour, right? [05:28] [1077521.388157] audit(1275130499.951:7): type=1502 operation="file_lock" requested_mask="k::" denied_mask="k::" name="/var/run/utmp" pid=5406 profile="/sbin/syslog-ng" namespace="default" [07:20] im having an issue with pure-ftpd. I have all of my drives mounted to /home/ftpusers/username. They are all there with i do ls. i have my ftp user root as /home/userftp/username. when i access the ftp with a remote computer i show zero files in the directory. i can create a folder from remote and then see that on my other systems. but then i cant see that new folder on the server [07:20] corpse: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [07:20] Use SFTP. [07:49] hi [07:56] I am running logrotate on ubuntu 8.04 hardy server. It causes high load on the server. I have set the nice priority to 19 Still no improvment [07:56] Please suggest [07:57] The size of the logfile is around 10Gb [08:06] niceness won't reduce load [08:07] rotate that logfile manually. It's probably spending its CPU cycles gzipping it. [08:07] logrotate won't cause significant load if you've been using it already [08:13] twb: yes [08:13] twb: any workaround ? [08:13] 17:07 rotate that logfile manually. It's probably spending its CPU cycles gzipping it. [08:15] twb: i did that [08:15] I usually call it from crontab [08:15] It happens at 1 am [08:17] twb: just want to understand you said to run it manually [08:18] Wrong. [08:18] I mean i did not understand that [08:18] I mean something like "mv foo.log foo.log.oldandstupid" [08:18] I don't mean "run logrotate from the command line" [08:18] twb: its not possible [08:18] That way logrotate won't see your ridiculously large historical logs, and will happily deal with small logs from now on. [08:19] Every day the logfile size is around 10Gb [08:19] Maybe you shouldn't log so much, then [08:20] twb: any other way to handle it [08:20] I don't know. [08:20] sorry if i am bugging a lot [08:22] <\sh> rsyncing the logs on one central logfile server which deals with logfiles much better...decreasing the logging in general...production environment shouldn't log everything...it should log errors and warnings (application logfiles) etc.pp. 10Gb is really a lot of cruft [08:24] \sh: ok [08:24] <_tydeas_> if i want a home dir to be created i must add to the /etc/login.defs the line CREATE_DIR=1? [08:25] <_tydeas_> if i want a home dir to be created when i useradd i must add to the /etc/login.defs the line CREATE_DIR=1? [08:42] <_tydeas_> I am facing a strange behavior. I have installed apache and php to my server but when trying to access a php file it does not rendered to the browser but i am prompt to download the file.why is that? [08:50] <\sh> _tydeas_, check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ if php module is enabled...did you restart apache2? [08:51] <_tydeas_> mod-enabled and restarted [09:19] hrm. Seems like I've broken postgrey when doing the upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04. anyone bumped into the same thing? (cant upgrade the package) [09:21] <_tydeas_> how to determine version of my ubuntu server? [09:22] _tydeas_: lsb_release -a [09:29] <_tydeas_> For one more time,php files can be rendered in the browser but only for the once under /var/www. I want the php to render for each user i have this http://pastie.org/985296 in the config. [09:35] _tydeas_: restart apache [09:36] _tydeas_: and access your file with *w3m*, not firefox [09:36] <_tydeas_> w3m? [09:36] command line browser [09:36] <_tydeas_> i have restarted apache [09:36] <_tydeas_> why? [09:37] cause firefox has a wicked cache [09:37] w3m does't have it at all [09:37] that makes it the best tool for testing changes in web pages [09:38] <_tydeas_> ok it renders properly [09:38] a month ago there was someone with the same issue [09:38] and he was using firefox all the time [09:38] <_tydeas_> what do i do know [09:38] <_tydeas_> ? [09:38] <\sh> why not disabling the cache in firefox? ;) [09:38] _tydeas_: nothing, it's working; isn't it? [09:39] <_tydeas_> you mean the problem was client side? [09:39] yes [09:40] <_tydeas_> tried google chrome same result [09:40] does it render with w3m? [09:41] <_tydeas_> yes [09:41] then that's it [09:41] <_tydeas_> and what the server users [09:41] now why someone of your browsers don't reload the page from server [09:41] <_tydeas_> they don't use w3m [09:41] beats me [09:41] try shift+f5 on firefox [09:41] err... ctrl+shift+r [09:42] <_tydeas_> where [09:42] <_tydeas_> ? [09:42] firefox [09:42] <_tydeas_> when i try to access serverhost/~testing/index.php [09:42] <_tydeas_> i get prompt to download the file [09:42] that's firefox's cache [09:42] <_tydeas_> same on google chrome [09:43] cache again [09:43] it's easy to double check [09:43] tail access.log on server and then use firefox on client [09:44] you'll notice that firefox doesn't access your server at all [09:44] or, clear cache in firefox [09:44] ctrl+shift+del [09:44] chrome doesn't cache [09:45] Isn't it backed onto libsoup? [09:45] I vaguely recall that caches [09:45] _tydeas_: You can check with curl or wget [09:45] of course it does :) [09:45] those really don't cache :p [09:45] binBASH: he checked with w3m [09:45] binBASH: and it rendered :) [09:45] <_tydeas_> i appear with firefox in the access.log [09:45] <_tydeas_> I will say it again [09:46] <_tydeas_> if i try to access a php file under Document Root /var/www [09:46] <_tydeas_> it will be rendered properly [09:46] <_tydeas_> if i try to access a php under a users /home/user/public_html [09:46] <_tydeas_> i get prompt to download the file [09:46] _tydeas_: so PHP isn't enabled for users' home directories. [09:46] <_tydeas_> i did enabled it [09:46] twb: he enabled it, restarted apache [09:47] twb: it's client side cache [09:47] OK. [09:47] <_tydeas_> ivoks: that's what i have done [09:47] <_tydeas_> http://pastie.org/985296 & http://pastie.org/985325 [09:47] _tydeas_: even with a retarded cacher, you should be able to move the test.php to test2.php and try again [09:47] btw. from your pastie [09:47] how old is that config? :p [09:47] <_tydeas_> yes [09:47] .php3 and .phtml ? [09:48] <_tydeas_> i downloaded the ubuntu server and was in it [09:48] <_tydeas_> didn't create it [09:48] _tydeas_: what does "lsb_release -c" say? [09:48] <_tydeas_> Codename: lucid [09:49] _tydeas_: what does this outputs? [09:49] <_tydeas_> what? [09:49] wget -qO- http://server/~testing/index.php [09:49] php or html? [09:50] <_tydeas_> html [09:50] try with this [09:50] end of story [09:50] for firefox and chrome, please go to #ubuntu [09:50] or #google and #mozilla or whatever [09:50] <_tydeas_> i have not installed php-cgi [09:51] <_tydeas_> does this matter? [09:51] as i said, for client side questions -> #ubuntu [09:51] your apache is parsing php and renders html [09:52] <_tydeas_> ivoks: thanks ivoks [09:52] <_tydeas_> thank you guys [09:52] <_tydeas_> i cleared the cache in firefox and worked === sourcode_ is now known as sourcode [10:16] New bug: #587810 in samba (main) "pam_winbind reports misleading "Access denied"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587810 [10:18] hi there [11:01] New bug: #587828 in net-snmp (main) "Row creation in snmpTargetAddrTable fails in 64-bit version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587828 === unreal_ is now known as unreal === twister23_ is now known as twister23 === seanr_ is now known as seanr === unreal_ is now known as unreal [11:57] hi, i'm on ubuntu and i've installed fastcgi trough package libapache2-mod-fcgid, how can set the number of php processes running? i've followed this tut http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1038416 [12:01] <\sh> Alblasco1702, http://www.fastcgi.com/mod_fastcgi/docs/mod_fastcgi.html#FastCgiServer <- [12:02] <\sh> Alblasco1702, sorry..wrong nick [12:02] <\sh> alex88, http://www.fastcgi.com/mod_fastcgi/docs/mod_fastcgi.html#FastCgiServer ;) [12:02] <\sh> alex88, there is a hint on "-processes n" [12:03] Hello everyone :). I have ubuntu 10.04 as my server with linode.com. I'm trying to get my web server to work on it. I just ran this: apt-get install exim4. How do i test to verify if the mail server is actually online without having to send an email? [12:03] \sh: looking at.. thank you [12:03] MasterZuFu: sudo netstat -tapn [12:03] look at port 25 [12:04] tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN and tcp6 0 0 ::1:25 :::* LISTEN means it's working then right? [12:07] hmmmmm.... alex88: I seem to see that the server is running. I have a mybb forum running on my server also via apache. i tried to send myself an email from it 10 minutes ago, it still hasn't gotten here yet [12:11] MasterZuFu: look at logs... /var/log/mail.info for me [12:11] \sh: that's for the cli, not apache module [12:12] it's empty [12:13] so nothing has tried to send mails [12:13] hmmmmm [12:13] ok [12:14] probably php tried to send via sendmail command [12:14] try to use that as test [12:14] anyone ever had problems with raid 1 ? [12:14] i don't know what the sendmail command is [12:14] !anybody >blackthor [12:14] blackthor, please see my private message [12:14] thank you twb;) [12:15] sorry for being unclear [12:15] i have a software raid-1 crash [12:15] one of 2 drives died [12:15] i seem to have lost 2 days of data [12:15] (booting from the remaining drive) [12:15] That doesn't make any sense. [12:15] all kinds of updates and changes are reverted back [12:15] RAID1 is a mirror, not a backup. [12:15] yes [12:16] it is very strange [12:16] it's the second time i am experiencing this [12:16] blackthor: what does /proc/mdstat have to say about it? [12:16] well, the machine doesn't boot anymore with both drives hooked up [12:16] all md? are active 2/1 [12:17] if i dig e.g. into syslog i notice that the black hole takes place from may 27th 6am till today 9am [12:17] and i am 100% positive to have worked on that machine on 28th (files are missing etc) [12:18] it weren't big files, the only explanation i am starting to think about is that the write behind cache or buffer hasn't been committed to the raid [12:18] In what way doesn't it boot with both drives? [12:18] but the weird part is, i have no warning at all [12:19] whileas in mdadm.conf: MAILADDR root [12:19] hmmmmmm......for some reason webmin isn't working. it says file not found O.o [12:19] MasterZuFu: webmin isn't supported. [12:20] what is supported? [12:20] twb: other disk isn't detected anymore in bios [12:20] I suppose ebox is, but really we encourage people to learn the normal command-line tools. [12:20] blackthor: urk [12:20] blackthor: maybe your controller is borked? [12:20] i don't have time to learn normal command-line tools when my website's down :) [12:20] Shrug. [12:21] hmmmm [12:21] blackthor: I haven't seen those symptoms before, so I'm just speculating. [12:21] perhaps [12:22] the same raid did the same thing 2 months ago [12:22] i replaced one drive and rebuilt [12:22] doesn't make any sense why webmin isn't working >_> grrrrr [12:22] now it's the other drive that crashed [12:22] webmin doesn't work because it's shit code [12:23] it worked before [12:23] No, it *appeared* to work. [12:23] code shouldn't matter, and that's personal prefference [12:25] i'm just trying to get my website at optimal functionality. ever since i moved from a shared host where i didn't have any chance to mess with the server and then to a dedicated host where i have a chance to mess with it I am learning how to install all these needed things myself. I didn't realize cpanel wasn't free and everyone told me to get webmin. so, i have it, it's installed, but it's not working [12:25] that's after we did some serious work on apache though [12:32] New bug: #587858 in openssh (main) "update-motd executed even in non-interactive sessions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587858 [12:36] i'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/ywX7NHPr [12:38] MasterZuFu: looks like port 10000 is already in use. investigate that [12:38] pmatulis, I already did. when i try to go to that port I get the error: "Error-File not found" [12:39] hmmmmmm i think i know what might be the problem [12:42] webmin doesn't go via apache [12:42] By default it listens to all interfaces directly, allowing brute-force attacks from the internet :-/ [12:43] Use ss or netstat to find out what process is currently bound to 10000 [12:43] when i first installed apache i put all my files in /root like an idiot. a friend of mine helped me sort t out to the proper location of /var/www/, there was a folder in that directory called "webmin". I think that may be the case that it's still pointed to /root instead of /var/www/ [12:43] Well, /var/www is really hysterical raisins. Somewhere in /srv/ would be the FHSly way to do it. [12:44] MasterZuFu: webmin doesn't use apache. it has it's own perl-based webserver [12:44] i know that [12:44] when i installed webmin there was a file in my main web files location, or directory i should say, named "webmin". [12:45] i moved it [12:45] now i have to find whatever file is pointing to that directory, and change it to the new one [12:45] i think that's the issue maybe [12:45] and /srv is empty [12:45] MasterZuFu: /srv is REQUIRED to be empty until you put things in it [12:45] ok [12:45] It's reserved for the system administrator [12:46] uh....i am the sysadmin [12:46] Which is why it's empty [12:46] ok [12:46] I mean that packages aren't allowed to place files in there without asking you [12:46] it might have asked me [12:46] i dunno [12:46] what file tells webmin where to look for all the files for it's functionality? [12:46] i can't seem to find anything [12:47] i'm in /etc/webmin/conf right now, it has this line in there: path=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin [12:47] You should probably ask #webmin (or whatever) for help with webmin [12:48] no one's talking in #webmin [12:48] Then be patient [12:48] !webmin [12:48] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead. [12:49] MasterZuFu: doesn't it log error messages? [12:49] i'm looking at them now [12:49] MasterZuFu: that should have been your first step [12:49] i'm still learning all this stuff [12:51] 29852/apache2 [12:51] tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN [12:51] wtf? [12:52] nvm [12:52] MasterZuFu: fuser -n tcp 10000 [12:52] IMO webmin borks your system sufficiently that you might as well just reinstall [12:52] 10000/tcp: 31435 [12:52] (At which point you will learn to keep /home and /srv on separate partitions from /) [12:54] yeah i'm just...lost. I've never really had to manage a server myself before. I always just used cpanel. [12:55] You could start by reading the Ubuntu Server Guide and the RUTE [12:56] i wish i had the time to. I'm having to make time just to do this as it is. honestly webmin never really worked for me anyways, half the modules always said they weren't installed when they were. being that this is a new server and i'm having to set it up completely from scratch I'm having to learn the hard way on exactly what I actually need to have installed when running my website. i only just realized email didn't work and members couldn't [12:57] If you want to be a sysadmin, you will have to learn this [12:57] i know that [12:57] it's just difficult because 'm having to juggle so many things at once [12:58] If you know a good linux shop nearby, you could rent one of their sysadmins to help you get up to speed, then gradually take over responsibility yourself [12:58] well...I've got a friend of mine who is an exclillent ubuntu sysadmin, he's just hardly ever on :P [12:59] and i'm in japan :P and don't know the language lol, so i doubt i'll be finding any linux shops around here [13:00] tokyo? [13:01] no, i'm in a smaller town, yokosuka [13:01] Hmph. The .jp resident I know doesn't appear to be around, or I'd ask him to recommend one. === lau is now known as Guest72879 [13:02] it's quite alright. i'll figure it out. i'll just turn off activations required emails until i get this all sorted out. it's just a huge security risk to do so but if i don't i don't get any more members. [13:04] MasterZuFu: perhaps you should just buy a copy of cPanel ;) it will save you a lot of headache, stress and time [13:04] how much do they run? [13:04] or plesk [13:05] Is cpanel really suitable for a single-host VPS? [13:05] MasterZuFu: !webmin [13:05] donno, didn't know that was the point [13:05] I thought it was more for "so, I have a HPC and I want to rent out time on it to my customers" [13:05] i've used ispconfig before [13:05] !webmin [13:05] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead. [13:05] i know wise_crypt [13:05] wise_crypt: it's "!datum >user" [13:05]