a|wenlooks like kdebase-runtime got some new files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/searchhandlers/ ... should they go into kdebase-runtime-data?00:08
a|wen(.desktop and .html files)00:11
Tm_Tsounds like -data then00:12
a|wen-data it will be then00:20
debfxJontheEchidna: if you are ok with it, i'll do the kmozillahelper changes tomorrow00:36
ryanakcaRiddell: Aye, sure. Have anything prepared or shall I make it up as I go?00:52
ScottKapachelogger: Rails reinforces the odds of insanity.00:58
ScottKryanakca: Thanks.00:59
a|wenneversfelde: retried the kdebase-workspace to have them build now that kdepimlibs is there01:14
a|wenwell time to take a break for the night...01:18
ScottKNightrose: Is your blog not on planet Ubuntu?  We should fix that.01:41
lex79ScottK or JontheEchidna: can you upload kdebase-runtime from bzr please?01:50
rbelemScottK, around?02:33
ScottKrbelem: Sort of.02:33
ScottKI'm doing several things right now, but if you don't mind me beeing laggy, we can chat.02:34
rbelemno problem02:34
rbelemScottK, i'm still fighting with ksambashare and i want to keep it sane. i'm making lots of changes and i want to know if am i making it complicated or is it ok to follow this path.02:39
* ScottK probably isn't the best person to ask about htat.02:40
rbelemit would be nice to discuss about this with agateau, but he is offline02:41
rbelemi think i found a solution02:49
ryanakcaRiddell: In any case, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.3.1 . If you want to edit it, https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/151/edit .02:50
ScottKRiddell: Why is libsmokebase4-3 not libsmokebase3?  It's soname is 3.04:17
NightroseScottK: it is but i'm always hesitant to post there tbh in fear of getting beaten for too much k and non-ubuntu stuff07:57
Nightrose(i syndicate a specia category)07:57
jussioh sigh...08:12
jussibecause I have rekonq dailes, I cant report ubuntu bugs against rekonq... :(08:13
* jussi goes to find how to file manually08:13
a|wenjussi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq/+filebug08:16
jussia|wen: ahh, thanks. 08:17
a|wennp :)08:17
jussiawesome. 2 bugs filed :)08:23
a|wenbetter if you said fixed :P08:25
apacheloggerKRF: your current akonadi failure seems to be of a different nature :/08:34
KRFapachelogger :'(09:00
apacheloggerthat is the beauty of akonadi09:01
apacheloggerKRF: I think your mysql is not terminating properly09:01
apacheloggerand that causes trouble on next startup09:01
jussia|wen: I do what I can... 09:01
apacheloggerat least that is the only way I can explain the other two failed tests youve got09:01
* apachelogger is mirroring the archives again ^^09:02
jussiSo how does one forward bugs upstream? 09:06
apacheloggeryou report them at bko and close the launchpad bug09:06
apacheloggerwell, latter only if the surverity is not super high or trackworthy09:07
jussieven for rekonq?09:07
apacheloggerjussi: if rekonq is tracked on bko, yes09:07
apacheloggerotherwise use whatever bugtracker rekonq uses ^^09:07
jussibug 588158 and bug 58816009:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 588158 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Rekonq googles when localhost:631 is entered. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58815809:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 588160 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Rekonq hangs on finding printers in cups web interface " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58816009:07
jussiwasnt there someway to link it in LP ?09:08
apacheloggerthere was, but it is overly pointless since the lp bug will be closed anyway09:09
apacheloggercant find the wiki page in the pile of duplicated information :/09:10
apacheloggerjussi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Forwarding upstream09:11
jussiooh, excellent, thank you09:11
apacheloggerthere it is 09:11
apacheloggerjussi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches09:11
apacheloggerobviously one would be searching for bug watch and not how to link a bug upstream -.-09:12
jussiI just want to make sure the right eyes get on the bug...09:14
apacheloggerin that case I better do not look at it ;)09:14
apacheloggerjussi: bug 588158 might not be related to localhost btw09:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 588158 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "Rekonq googles when localhost:631 is entered. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58815809:15
jussiapachelogger: did that memenu ever eventuate?09:15
apacheloggermemenu is crap09:15
apacheloggerlong live soundmenu09:15
apacheloggersee mailing list09:15
apacheloggerI think I have a bit of a tense neck09:16
jussiapachelogger: yeah, I had sore neck yesterday09:16
apacheloggeranyhow, about that localhost bug ... I think that the problem is more of the sort that mr rekonq just doesnt second guess the user when a port number was provided09:16
apacheloggerif you try hello.com:100 it will also go to google09:18
apacheloggerif you specify the protocol as http it will indeed try to access that URL09:18
apacheloggerso I suppose the fix ought to be as "easy" as adding protocol expansion to http09:18
apacheloggerjussi: the bug is not related to localhost but to the port number in combination with missing protocol09:18
apacheloggerrekonq fails to parse that as host:protocol and makes it a search term09:19
apacheloggerwhile when there is a http:// involved it will just assume everything past the http:// is a URL and try to access it09:19
jussiSee I figure if we are going to have rekonq in by default, Ill use it as much as possible and tell people where it falls down for me :)09:19
apacheloggerare we going to have it by default? :P09:19
jussiyeah, that makes sense09:19
jussiapachelogger: I thought so?09:20
apacheloggerthat should proof interesting09:20
jussiapachelogger: I _think_ the decision was that as long as they released on time, we would switch. but I may be wrong...09:21
apachelogger"Include a decent web browser in Kubuntu Maverick"09:22
apacheloggerdefining a proser that is not capable of protocol expansion if a port is involved is.... sad09:22
jussiwell it _is_ "Maverick"09:22
jussiapachelogger: I guess thats why Im reporting bugs?09:23
apacheloggerthere is a large difference between kubuntu members reporting bugs and having users exposed to the software09:24
apacheloggeras seen within the past09:24
jussiapachelogger: yes, true. but it is Maverick... not $LTS09:25
apacheloggerso we are now actually carrying LTS through and not just fix some random bugs that might happen to affect someone important enough for us to care?09:26
apachelogger$ grep fluffy cdimage/scratch/fluffy/daily/debian-cd/i386/lucid-alternate-i386.list /pool/main/f/fluffy-unicorn/fluffy-unicorn_0.0.0~alpha1~1.gbpe0601f_i386.deb10:18
apacheloggerfregl: apparenlty I just built the first fluffy iso10:18
a|wenas we don't have a libsmokekde-dev package for all the .so files for libraries in libsmokekde4-3 i suppose that we should just not ship them?11:07
a|wen(lucid kde 4.4.4)11:07
a|wenRiddell: ^^?11:07
jussiapachelogger: apart from the theme, what is different about fluffy from kubuntu?11:10
Riddella|wen: right11:13
a|wenRiddell: what about the qyoto/mono bindings? ... those seems to have no sane place either11:13
MamarokRiddell: I managed to install it now, but had to force-overwrite about 14 packages11:19
MamarokRiddell: but what happened to the systray icons? Thsoe are not Oxygen ions and look dreadful11:20
Mamarokthey totally lack color11:21
Riddella|wen: has anything changed sine 4.4.3?11:22
RiddellMamarok: did you keep a copy of what needed to be force-overwrite?11:22
Mamarokwell, I have the history, will copy that and filter, takes just a moment11:23
RiddellMamarok: icon colour is a decision of someone upstream and follows what other platforms have done, I guess it's a matter of taste11:23
Mamarokit looks horrible, not oxygen like at all, has nuno seen that? I bet he would not like it11:24
a|wenRiddell: hard to know without rebuilding if any not-installed files was there as well ... hoped to skip building 4.4.3 (but well, might as well start the build now then)11:25
Mamarokbtw, kdetoys is broken11:25
Riddella|wen: hang on, what are the not installed files?11:26
a|wenRiddell: a bunch of files in /usr/lib/mono/qyoto/11:26
freglapachelogger: \o/ whoohoo11:36
freglI will spend today on parley handbook writing though, if I can make myself do that... we got kde doc freeze tomorrowish11:36
apacheloggerhandbook writing still beats design document writing :P11:37
Riddella|wen: one way to check would be comparing if any CMakeLists.txt files have changed between 4.4.3 and 4.4.411:38
apacheloggerjussi: software selection11:39
jussiapachelogger: ok. :) 11:39
apacheloggeralso fluffy is currenlty getting documented CD building procedure :P11:39
apacheloggeralso I got hci exam in 20 minutes Oo11:39
* apachelogger should change his pyjamas for something more fitting11:40
a|wenRiddell: true ... but then there might be less work in just letting it finish the compile; if someone could remember, that was the easy solution11:46
a|wenRiddell: seen http://randomguy3.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/d-bus-threading-issues/ ?11:52
Riddella|wen: 11:56
Riddella|wen: no, seems important though11:56
a|wenRiddell: indeed ... and if we are going to get a core library patched like that for maverick, we better gonna do it early11:57
Riddellafter alpha 1 freeze 11:59
RiddellMamarok: did you find the overwrite error logs?11:59
Mamarokdidn't have time, was ranting about those horrible SysTray icons in plasma, but as usual, they ignore people12:01
Mamarokso far I have only heard complaints from users, if I would want monochrome icons, I would have chosen that, they pretend it is less disturbing the work, I find it extremely disturbing and ugly12:02
Mamaroknot consistent with the rest of the desktop and panel icons12:02
MamarokRiddell: apparently I should be able to go back to the old icons, erasing /share/apps/desktoptheme/*/icons in the KDE4 install folder, where is that?12:17
Mamarokand how can I do that?12:17
RiddellMamarok: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/12:18
Mamarokah, thanks12:18
MamarokRiddell: thanks a bunch, erasing that icon fonder reverts to the normal icons, that made my day :)12:23
Mamarokbut some plasma people can't live with the truth apparently... I'm on sebas' ignore list now :) (wich doesn't bother me the least)12:24
oxymoronMay I ask, the Akonadi is it possible for it to MAYBE make it until Maverick stable release?12:51
Riddelloxymoron: I don't understand the question12:52
oxymoronRiddell: Well somewhere I read Akonadi will delay their release of stable Akonadi for, oh it maybe was KDE 4.5. But well, do you think Akonadi will be done before Kubuntu 10.10?12:54
RiddellKDE Pim is delaying its release, it should be released in time for maverick, which one we pick we will have to decide based on what seems most stable12:55
oxymoronSo hopefully I got a working KMail in newxt version of Kubuntu?12:56
RiddellI hope so too12:58
oxymoronSeems like 10.10 will be that THIS IS IT moment with QT 4.7, KDE 4.5.x, reconq, new installer, Better KPackageKit and so on.12:59
Riddellnew installer?13:00
oxymoronKubuntu Maverick KPackageKit App Center13:00
Riddelloh aye13:01
oxymoronOh nvm with new installer, I confused myself that they should merge kubuntu default and netbook into one single image :P13:01
oxymoronAs far as I can tell reconq seems extremely fast, get 100/100 on Acid 3, uses WebKit, A LOT OF dev tools for web developers like me, better tab browsing, clean, really neat bookmark system and so on.13:02
Tm_Toxymoron: it's rekonq13:08
oxymoronTm_T: Yeah sorry, I noticed that when doing sudo apt-get install reconq xD :P13:08
oxymoronI am not sure I like Rekonq logo though, looks a little bit scary :D13:09
oxymoronMaybe that might frighten all other browsers :D13:09
oxymoronProbably faster then Chromium/Chrome13:10
oxymoronWhat I like the most is that its developed by a web developer, FINALLY!13:11
oxymoronWhat I dont like, the adress bar is to darn thin :D13:14
txwikingerRiddell: looks like we make this evening with 4.4.413:15
oxymorontxwikinger: Sweet, will it be packaged to "stable" Kubuntu later on (I have no rush, just wonder because I like to be out early with new stuff, for a reason I cant imagine)13:17
Riddelltxwikinger: it's looking good13:25
ghostcubehttp://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but-no-more-windows/   :)13:29
JontheEchidnamy windows don't have menus today :(13:36
Riddelluh oh13:37
Riddellagateau: ^^13:37
claydohupgraded to 4.5, mostly smooth process. had to install libakonadi-contact4 and  libkontactinterface4 to get kontact yo run. though13:48
claydohand I agree with Mamarok that those tray icons simply clash with everything else13:49
claydohaside from their relative ugliness13:49
Mamarokclaydoh: don't think you can tell that to anybody in KDE, you will be acused of being a moron, "you will get used to", that you are agressing others and violating the CoC, just happend to me13:58
* Mamarok seriously ponders to leave that whole mess where opinions can't be voiced anymore13:58
Tm_TMamarok: it didn't go like that, IMO13:58
claydoh??? seriously???13:58
Mamarokbecuase it is not the same as sebas'13:58
Tm_Toh come on...13:58
MamarokTm_T: oh, you haven't seen what else I was told13:59
Tm_TMamarok: what I saw in channels, you were very aggressive towards others13:59
MamarokTm_T: I was not, cerftainly not inted to be, I juat gave my honest opinion13:59
MamarokTm_T: anyway, off for treatment14:00
Tm_TMamarok: it looked very aggressive to me14:00
Tm_Talso you were told several times where that very same discussion has been going14:00
Tm_Talso how to solve for you14:00
Mamarokwell, I sais it was ugly, inconsistend and that I don't want any monochrome icons on my desktop and how I can change that back, and sebas immediately agrssed me14:00
Tm_Tso really, please don't continue this unnecessary "fight"14:00
Mamarokno, I will leave KDE, that is just the drop too much14:01
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Tm_TMamarok: please don't14:01
Mamarokof course I will, since my contribution is totally disegarded, and telling the truth is not allowed, I can't continue in a project like that, where people can't accept that not everybody shares their opinion14:02
a|wentxwikinger: kdebindings done14:02
txwikingera|wen: yeah \o/14:02
Tm_TMamarok: noone said you cannot share your opinion14:02
Tm_TMamarok: it was all about _how_ you do it14:03
Tm_TMamarok: please, step back for a moment and let's continue then later14:04
txwikingera|wen: I think someone needs to take over kdebase14:07
a|wentxwikinger: you might be right ... bulldog98 isn't around?14:10
txwikingera|wen: I tried to ping him a couple of times, he has not responded14:11
txwikingerI would think this packages might be too difficult for his experience level14:11
txwikingerWe need to mentor him a little14:12
a|wentxwikinger: sure ... i'll set kdebase to build in the background; hopefully it's a nice and easy one14:12
txwikingera|wen: sounds good14:13
txwikingerI need kdebase for my last package in work14:13
a|wenyeah .. looks like we are almost finished14:14
agateauRiddell: JontheEchidna: sorry was away14:20
agateauI guess it's time to upgrade my desktop to Maverick if I want to track that bug14:21
* agateau is not sure upgrading now is a good idea14:21
* Riddell is not sure either14:22
Riddellbut I am installing the first cd images from maverick, virtual machine only for now14:22
agateauRiddell: just curious: what vm system do you use14:23
JontheEchidnamaverick's been working fairly well for me14:23
JontheEchidnabut then, I'm crazy :D14:24
agateauJontheEchidna: can you try something for me?14:24
bulldog98a|wen: I’m here14:26
JontheEchidnaagateau: sure14:26
a|wenbulldog98: do you have kdebase finished?14:26
agateauJontheEchidna: install d-feet, connect to the session bus, and check if there is something named org.ayatana.WindowMenu.Registrar in the list on the left14:26
bulldog98a|wen: not by now started14:27
a|wenbulldog98: okay ... so you wouldn't mind me grabbing that one?14:28
bulldog98a|wen: no i won’t :P14:28
bulldog98a|wen: I think I need an mentor the next time and maybe more free time14:28
JontheEchidnaagateau: looks like it's registered: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoplb1444-jpg.jpg14:29
agateauJontheEchidna: that would be the reason why your menus are missing14:29
agateauJontheEchidna: do you have the menubar applet installed?14:30
a|wenbulldog98: just ask in here, when you run into trouble :) ... and if you think it might take a while, be sure to grab a leaf-package from here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph14:30
JontheEchidnaagateau: installed, yes. Not running, though14:30
bulldog98a|wen: saw that before14:30
agateauJontheEchidna: there was a bug with the applet: when it is removed it forgets to unregister the WindowMenu.Registrar thing14:31
JontheEchidnaagateau: I did have it earlier today14:31
agateauJontheEchidna: this cause Qt to think it can still export the menu14:31
agateauJontheEchidna: restart plasma then, it should fix it14:31
agateau(kquitapp plasma-desktop ; plasma-desktop)14:31
agateauI need to release a new version of the applet with this fix14:32
JontheEchidnaagateau: much better14:32
agateauJontheEchidna: note that you will need to restart your applications as well :/14:32
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agateauyou're welcome14:33
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601133623-hy3saui1iir75sez * src/api/Subscription.cpp Fix crash due to missing dptr14:36
a|wentxwikinger: kdebase is in ppa should be ready in less than an hour14:50
txwikingera|wen: cool.. I will upload kdeutils when kdebase is ready14:50
a|wentxwikinger: cool ... when is official/upstream release?14:55
Riddella|wen: sebas and dirk seem to be talking about the next few hours14:56
Riddellanyone tested it yet?14:56
txwikingerRiddell: no14:56
a|wenRiddell: not yet ...14:57
Riddelloh kde-l10n, why do you take so long?14:59
a|wenRiddell: how long has it been going on with it?14:59
Riddellsince whenever I put my name in the wiki15:00
* a|wen recalls that has been a while15:00
RiddellI had a few false starts due to missing tools15:00
Riddellmostly it's getting the .desktop files out of svn which takes the time15:00
a|wenthat could take while15:03
Riddellfortunately with maverick CD testing and archive admin I have plenty of other things to fill my time :)15:05
a|wenheh, then we wont worry ;)15:05
txwikingerRiddell: maverick CD testing?15:12
txwikingerare there already maverick CDs?15:12
Riddelltxwikinger: alpha 1 this week15:24
txwikingerWe already have alpha1? Man time is a lot faster than it used to be15:25
a|wenlooks like we get an extra bugfix release this time around: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/423515:27
* Riddell uploads 4.4.4 l10n to updates PPA15:37
a|wenRiddell: we're not going through staging?15:44
Riddellnot much point for l10n i think, little danger to users and launchpad can be fragile when copying around GB of packages15:45
a|wenokay ... valid reasons15:46
* Riddell out for 30 mins15:46
nixternalkdebase-plasma <- this shouldn't be removed right when doing the latest upgrades?15:46
JontheEchidna<3 KProgressDialog15:47
shtylmanwhy is api.kde down again...15:50
nixternalwhy does my lucid update want to remove kdebase-plasma and kdepimlibs-data, as well as a few other ones?15:52
a|wentxwikinger: kdebase done15:52
a|wennixternal: do you have any PPA's enabled?15:52
nixternalit seems there is the 4.4.80 upgrade available15:53
nixternalno 4.4.80 for kdebase-plasma, so I am guessing it is either getting removed on purpose or there is a booboo somewhere15:53
a|wennixternal: ninjas ppa enabled maybe?15:54
nigelbnixternal: heya! I haven't seen in you in some time :)15:54
nixternala|wen: experimental15:54
nixternalkubuntu-ppa-experimental-lucid.list and kubuntu-ppa-ppa-lucid.list15:55
a|wennixternal: if you haven't upgraded to 4.4.80, you can help test out 4.4.4 first?15:56
txwikingera|wen: in the process of sending up kdeutils15:56
nixternalhrmm, kdebase-plasma isn't in the packages in maverick either, so I am guessing it is no longer needed15:57
a|wennixternal: looks like it has been removed, yeah15:57
nixternallibkdcraw8-dev, libkonqsidebarplugin4 libkwineffects1 libmarble4 libplasma-applet-system-monitor4 libplasmaclock4 libprocesscore4 libprocessui4 libtaskmanager4 libweather-ion415:59
nixternalnot seeing any replacements for those :/ hrmm15:59
nixternaldamn I am blind16:00
* txwikinger hands nixternal some shades16:00
nixternalwoo, time to go find work! peace out kubuscouts!16:01
txwikingernixternal: good luck16:02
txwikingera|wen: Riddell: kdeutils is in the ppa and building.. except of l10n this should be the last packages16:22
a|wentxwikinger: cool ... i'll upgrade as soon as it finishes16:23
Riddellnixternal: kdebase-plasma is gone16:31
Riddellnixternal: are you upgrading to experimental PPA?16:31
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601153548-i0o7j6h4p2e6t2tv * (4 files in 2 dirs) Icons++16:35
Riddellhmm, maverick CD installs but at boot KDM or something crashes16:38
JontheEchidnaRiddell: seen bug 588090?16:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 588090 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "kdm user does not own /var/lib/kdm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58809016:40
RiddellI wonder what would be a better home16:42
agateauRiddell: do you use the alternate iso to install Maverick? the daily-live/ dir still contains lucid16:43
Riddellyes, only alternate so far16:43
Riddelland as I say that doesn't work too well16:44
macolive never happen before alpha 2 do they?16:44
* agateau schedules a download for tonight16:44
Riddellthey happen if they can be made to work but it's not a priority16:44
* Riddell installs 4.4.416:47
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* a|wen has installed 4.4.4 ... session restart17:12
* Riddell holds breath17:12
txwikingerRiddell: don't worry.. any problems would be kde's17:16
a|wenupgrade went fine, and no errors so far17:18
* Riddell breaths out17:18
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601161825-cwew5ckeubp0wkkj * src/api/ (Api.cpp Api.h) Last part of d-pointerisation17:18
Riddell4.4.4 good here too17:29
Riddella|wen, txwikinger: ok for me to copy to updates PPA?17:30
apacheloggerfregl: did you break the opaque theme or something?17:38
apacheloggerthe panel renders all black here :/17:38
freglapachelogger: not that I know of, it works here17:46
apacheloggermaybe my graphics driver exploded :/17:47
freglapachelogger: but it's plasma, so you never know17:47
apacheloggertrue true17:47
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601164723-v9nn3rwhl1npspnr * src/api/ (Api.cpp Api.h) <3 Q-Pointers too ^^17:47
freglapachelogger: have you tried switching it on and off again? ask Nightrose if you need further help with that17:47
* Nightrose kicks fregl17:47
apacheloggerindeed I did :P17:47
apacheloggerI even checked that it is plugged in17:48
freglit still needs general fixing, but here opaque shines it its pinkish-white glory17:52
apacheloggertell you what, my transparent version is much better than your opaque one :P17:53
apacheloggerclearly I am the better artist17:53
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601170837-w9i2vppjx5bj6t92 * debian/control builddep on kdebase-workspace18:09
debfxJontheEchidna: ping18:12
JontheEchidnadebfx: pong18:12
debfxJontheEchidna: http://debfx.fobos.de/ubu/kmozillahelper_0.6.2-0ubuntu2.debdiff18:13
debfxshould contain all the changes we discussed yesterday18:14
shadeslayerlex79: did the MIR get some love?18:14
Riddelldebfx: did chriscoulson talk to you about kmozillahelper?  he told me at UDS he knew of a couple of issues18:14
a|wenRiddell: i'd say go for it18:15
debfxRiddell: nope18:15
Riddelldebfx: might be worth pinging him and finding out what the issues were18:15
ScottKRiddell and debfx:  IIRC he or micahg tlaked to JontheEchidna.18:16
JontheEchidnamicahg talked to us about the naming issue18:17
JontheEchidnadunno if that was *the* issue or not18:17
lex79shadeslayer: dunno18:21
lex79Riddell: did you see the MIR wrote by shadeslayer?18:22
lex79for kdeedu I think18:22
shadeslayer!info libqt4-dev karmic18:23
ubottulibqt4-dev (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2401 kB, installed size 23064 kB18:23
shadeslayerlex79: do we have Qt 4.6 for karmic somewhere?18:23
lex79for karmic18:24
lex79for karmic ?18:24
lex79I don't think so18:24
lex79oh yes18:24
lex79in kubuntu beta backport ppa18:24
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: Did you need me for something?18:28
apacheloggerno, I just wanted to say that ^^18:29
imbrandonapachelogger: how can i force qt4 when doing qmake -project ( it keep seeming to pick up qt3 ) ?18:30
apacheloggerthat one18:31
Riddelllex79: which mir?18:31
lex79shadeslayer: ^^^ paste the link please18:32
shadeslayerRiddell: bug 58767718:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 587677 in glew (Ubuntu) "[MIR] Inclusion of glew in main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58767718:32
lex79JontheEchidna: did you drop libglew build-dep from kdeedu?18:33
ScottKRiddell: Looks like we need kdeedu out of New.18:34
ScottKlex79: It was promoted.18:34
shadeslayerlex79: ScottK any idea if the kubuntu installer supports GPT?18:35
shadeslayerfor partitioning my HD...18:35
ScottKshtylman is your man for installer stuff.18:35
shadeslayershtylman: any idea if the kubuntu installer supports GPT?18:35
lex79shadeslayer: we don't need anymore the MIR, change the status to invalid please18:35
shadeslayerlex79: ok..18:35
lex79thanks :)18:35
shadeslayerthats 2 invalid MIR's to my name :P18:36
shadeslayerlex79: what do i write as to why where shutting it down?18:36
Riddellhow did it get promoted without a MIR?18:36
shtylmanshadeslayer: GPT?18:36
lex79ScottK: ^^^18:37
shadeslayershtylman: GUID partition table18:37
shtylmanwhat do you mean by supports?18:37
ScottKRiddell: IIRC pitti promoted it based on "it used to be in Main before".  There was some discussion on #uubntu-release, so consult your backscroll.18:37
shadeslayershtylman: its a alternative to the MBR partitioning method18:37
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133414 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (8 files in 3 dirs) Initial import of batch installer. Basically works, but could have a few more nice features and definitely needs a bit of polish. Drop in replacement for install-package, though.18:37
shtylmanI see18:37
shadeslayershtylman: i mean that recently there was a guy in #kubuntu having issues with his GPT formatted HD18:38
shtylmanshadeslayer: iirc it does not from a gui perspective... maybe debian installer (the backend) does18:38
shtylmanif you want more details about that, ask cjwatson in #ubuntu-installer18:38
shadeslayerhe couldnt install kubuntu on his GPT enabled/partitioned HD18:38
shtylmanhe knows the backend stuff18:38
shadeslayershtylman: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GPT 18:39
shtylmanshadeslayer: I think this may be something they are working on18:39
shtylmanI know there is uefi work being done18:39
shadeslayerhmm.. lets ask shall we :)18:39
Riddellryanakca: able to do us an announce for 4.4.4?18:39
shadeslayerRiddell: what happened to the kde 4.5 announcement?18:40
Riddellshadeslayer: 4.5 has issues18:40
shadeslayerRiddell: i know.. HUGE issues :P18:40
* shadeslayer will probably use 4.5 on arch... 18:41
shadeslayersince they have no kde* packages by default.. i should be good to go 18:42
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133417 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/ (qapt-batch/ src/) Folder rename18:43
shadeslayerScottK: Congrats btw ;)18:45
ScottKshadeslayer: Thanks.18:45
shadeslayerScottK: i dont know what it means though :P18:46
ScottKIt is ~ the same as being core-dev is in Ubuntu for Debian.18:46
shadeslayerScottK: oh awesome!18:47
txwikingerRiddell: sorry was in a meeting18:48
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133428 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/ (CMakeLists.txt qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp) - Show speed in dialog label - Correct "success" message to incorporate whether or not the user is installing or removing packages18:57
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133430 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp build++19:01
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: why do you not use Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE instead of BackendPrivate *d;?19:02
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: unaware of Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE's existence, I suppose19:03
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/files/head:/src/api/19:04
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133431 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/Messages.sh ++Messages.sh19:05
* txwikinger is running KDE4.4.419:05
apacheloggerApi uses a dptr with everything in place to grow beyond, and subscription uses a shared dptr (in case you are interested)19:05
shadeslayertxwikinger: lucky you :D19:06
txwikingershadeslayer: According to Chinese custom indeed19:08
* txwikinger wonders if he should tell Riddell not to test KDE 4.4.4 since it is a lucky number19:08
Riddelltxwikinger: lucky for whom?19:10
txwikingerRiddell: lucky for the Chinese :)19:10
Riddellquite the opposite I'm sure19:10
shadeslayershtylman: GPT is supported,though you can format to GPT from the installer,and BTRFS is not supported with lucid :'(19:13
shtylmanshadeslayer: gotcha... yea... btrfs I know isn't supported to boot into19:14
shtylmanyou can have partitions with btrfs, but not root or boot19:14
shadeslayershtylman: that just sucks... btrfs is supposed to be so much better :P19:16
shtylmanshadeslayer: well... it is/was still experimental in lucid19:16
shtylmandoesn't matter how much better it is *supposed* to be if it isn't released yet19:16
shadeslayerhmm :_19:17
shtylmanyou can't possibly expect an LTS to run on an unstable FS ... or any OS to run on an unstable FS19:17
shtylmanbut there is hope that it will be good for maverick and that all the support infrastructure will be updated19:17
shadeslayershtylman: just a side note,#archlinux says that if i put ext2 on my /boot it should work fine19:19
shadeslayerill be trying all that out after the 11th :D19:19
stefan_just if you did not notice already19:21
stefan_oxygen 4.4.4 just overwrote my 4.4.80 package ;)19:21
txwikingerRiddell: playing around with quite a number of kde apps, things seem to be ok19:21
stefan_or no ... it didn't19:21
stefan_sorry for the spam :(19:21
* txwikinger does not have time for real extensive testing atm19:21
* shadeslayer zsyncs maverick iso19:22
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: why does the backend have public members?19:24
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I haven't figured out the pointer-fu to make them part of the private class19:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/api/Account.cpp#L18019:27
JontheEchidnaI mean, yeah, one could make those members part of the private class, but I haven't ever been able to make the crazy apt api happy with how I've don eit19:28
shadeslayerRiddell: why dont we have live CD's for alpha 1?19:29
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: btw, know how to exit an app if you're app is a kprogressdialog?19:29
shadeslayerand is there a way to make a live ubuntu cd myself?19:29
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: this->deleteLater() I suppose19:30
Tm_Tshadeslayer: it's not priority task, so if it doesn't work rightaway, it wont exist19:30
shadeslayerTm_T: can i build one my self?19:30
Tm_TI guess19:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: or maybe just emit closeClicked()19:30
shadeslayerTm_T: any instructions i can read up on later?19:31
Tm_Tshadeslayer: no idea, sorry19:31
* shadeslayer googles19:31
Riddellshadeslayer: I don't know19:31
shadeslayerhttp://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Remastersys 19:32
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: considering it is derived from kdialog and that is derived from qdialog you should have a close() method19:32
shadeslayerhaha.. the script at the end of the page is missing :P19:33
apacheloggerremastering is incredibly scary19:34
* apachelogger only does the real stuff ^^19:34
apacheloggerneed to blog about it too19:34
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133447 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Emit an error if qaptworker dies. This should really be a generic KMessageBox function that I could call e.g. from a potential errorOccurred function, tho.19:35
shadeslayerbah... no mention of remastering a alternate cd19:35
shadeslayerguess ill have to wait till alpha 219:36
apacheloggershadeslayer: I suppose remastering mint is just like remastering ubuntu anyway19:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: :P19:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: dunno.. leave it,i just want a way to boot the ISO off my USB19:37
shadeslayerif theres a way to do that then no need to remaster19:37
shadeslayerim talking about the alternate CD tho19:37
shadeslayerlol.. opening www.apple.com spikes my CPU :P19:40
shadeslayershoots upto 2 Ghz ><19:40
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601184022-31i7mhlf7jmuzfdg * CMakeLists.txt Add /usr/share/apps/cmake/modules as module path so that qjson can be found19:40
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133449 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Technically the download hasn't begun until just after here.19:46
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133450 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Debug cleanup, some comments, and disconnect stuff before we exit19:46
shadeslayerKDE 4.4.4 released :)19:49
shadeslayerhttp://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.4.php 19:49
Riddellneeds ryanakca or make the kubuntu announcement19:52
shadeslayerRiddell: /me ? :P19:53
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: /home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:37:29: error: libqapt/globals.h: No such file or directory      19:53
apachelogger/home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:38:29: error: libqapt/package.h: No such file or directory19:53
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: just committed a fix19:53
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133455 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Modify for in-tree building19:53
JontheEchidnalike, just as you highlighted me :D19:53
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: /home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:171: warning: unused parameter ‘success’19:53
apachelogger/home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:200: warning: unused parameter ‘ETA’19:53
apachelogger/home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:209: warning: unused parameter ‘percentage’19:53
apacheloggerQ_UNUSED(var) :P19:53
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: if I do that, I'll forget and leave them there :P19:54
apachelogger/ FIXME19:54
apachelogger// FIXME19:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442915/19:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: btw, the pkgAllUpgrade and pkgDistUpgrade need brackets19:55
apacheloggeryour intention there is not immediately clear19:55
apacheloggerand IMHO you really should use Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE and the Q_D macro whenver you need the d ptr for realz19:55
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133456 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Move private member variables to the Private class. Thanks to Harald Sitter.19:57
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: could you explain the advantages?19:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442918/19:58
apacheloggera) you can create a const pointer to simulate constness in an otherwise const function19:58
shadeslayerRiddell: we should probably edit the announcement page where it says binaries available from ....19:59
apacheloggerb) you can easily grow the class to one with multiple derivates and shared d-pointer19:59
shadeslayerive gtg19:59
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: IMHO is the only argument you need ... in a world with 100% const correctness ^^20:00
apacheloggera that is20:00
apacheloggerb is just bous ;)20:00
JontheEchidnahmm, I seem to have broken qaptworker20:00
* apachelogger thinks that libqapt would be a perfect target for doing unittesting ^^20:01
* apachelogger adds that to his way too long todo20:01
JontheEchidnaoh, the directory was locked and I haven't got in error reporting for qapt-batch ^.^20:02
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: is the overall structure of the library sane?20:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: didnt look that much yet20:09
apacheloggercan review it later on20:09
* apachelogger is currently fighting with ubuntuone-kde building20:09
JontheEchidnakk, thanks for the patches+review you've done so far20:10
txwikingerapachelogger: Peace not war!20:21
apparledoes kubuntu use HAL to perform suspend etc?20:23
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601192857-p7kjd6q2wf79lnbw * debian/control build dep on pkg-config, libkonq5-dev and libqca2-dev20:29
CIA-91[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601193048-ubd8vgf8teq2dt6g * debian/control apparenlty some fella actually created a bugy qoauth pkg -> build-dep on libqoauth1 for the time being20:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: do you have a global include file or something?20:38
apachelogger    typedef QList<Group*> List;20:38
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133470 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) ++apidox All public members in QApt::Backend are now documented20:38
apacheloggershould not be in group.h since it blocks removal of the group header20:38
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: there is a globals.h, yes20:38
apacheloggergood thing qt creator doesnt display it ^^20:39
JontheEchidnaglobals.h is where I put all the enums and stuff20:40
JontheEchidnathat are useful globally20:40
apacheloggerlet me think again20:41
apacheloggerHorrible that it is inside the class :P20:42
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: IMHO that thingy should be changed from Group::List to GroupList and moved somewhere global20:43
* JontheEchidna better write these down20:44
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: same for Package::List, I would assume?20:45
apacheloggerand PackageStates20:46
apacheloggerIMHO that is tricky20:46
apacheloggereither you keep it inside the appropraite classes 20:47
apacheloggerwhich means that each class needs to be included in the backend header anyway20:47
apacheloggerso assuming one would want to use the backend most likely one gets the other includes anyway20:47
apacheloggerwhich makes all that stuff available like it was global anyway20:48
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133473 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Move cache include to cpp20:51
JontheEchidnafirst non-me commit \o/20:51
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1133474 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (TODO src/backend.h) -Clarification on what parameter downloadMessage emits -TODO++20:52
JontheEchidnaSo qapt-batch basically works, but it still needs error notification, and I'd like for it to get the "details" console like install-package has20:54
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133475 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h) Explicit ctors if less than 2 args please.20:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I do not think that details stuff is good UI wise TBH20:55
apacheloggerit puts a terminal-like thingy right into the users face20:55
JontheEchidnagood, because I haven't figured out the magic to grab the console output of the dpkg process that apt uses :D20:56
JontheEchidnait's voodoo enough getting the stuff from dpkg-status...20:56
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: why does cache not have a dptr?20:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: also IMHO your indention is off ... namespaces should be indented, shouldnt they?20:57
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: hmm, dunno why I didn't use a dptr for cache20:58
JontheEchidnadefinitely should have one, tho20:58
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133478 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h group.h package.h) Explicit include guard naming QAPT_Foo_H instead of FOO_H20:59
JontheEchidna^protection from namespace conflicts?21:00
JontheEchidnawell, class name conflicts21:00
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: fluffy sighting on planet kde21:02
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: yes, public headers must be incredibly precise in their include guards, otherwise your package.h might conflict with the rpm package.h or something21:03
apacheloggerfluffy \o/21:04
JontheEchidnafluffy is definitely an untapped share of the market21:05
JontheEchidnauntil now ;)21:05
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I'll experiment with giving QApt::Cache a Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE dptr once I get home21:07
JontheEchidnathen the rest will follow21:07
claydohapachelogger: will fluffy be available in fuchsia, or even aubergine???21:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: oh21:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: all done already *blush*21:08
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: oh wells :D21:08
apacheloggerclaydoh: no aubergine21:09
claydohfuchsia is fine, I like that color myself, actually purple is ok tho21:09
claydohoptions are good :) you should go for kde 2.x menu/option schemes really21:11
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133482 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (cache.cpp cache.h) Dptr for Cache + forward declare all pkg-apt classes21:12
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: btw, you only need to document the namespace once, doxygen usually is smart enough to use it everywhere21:15
apacheloggersame for derived functions, unless one provides a specific documentation it will use the base documentation IIRC21:16
apacheloggerpackage class needs a lot of love :/21:18
NCommanderRiddell: apachelogger: I started looking at flights with Altas for Akademy, and QT4 should be fixed soonish (sorry for the ongoing delays, lifes been ... difficult)21:23
lex79someone can retry this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/4:4.4.80-0ubuntu2/+build/176793321:25
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133491 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) Include cleanup for worker21:33
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133492 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (workeracquire.cpp workeracquire.h workerinstallprogress.h) More include cleanup21:33
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133493 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/cache.cpp Move initalizatoin of m_list where it blongs21:33
CIA-91[libqapt] sitter * 1133497 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (main.cpp qaptbatch.h) Includes again + Q_UNUSED21:38
nixternalRiddell: yeah, i upgraded from the experimental ppa...all is good it seems..had to keep doing 'apt-get -f install's as apt kept bombing out with errors, but it went through all the way after 3 or 4 times of doing that21:44
txwikingernixternal: what were you upgrading too?21:48
nixternal4.5 beta 1 it seems21:50
apacheloggermy release script needs serious redoing21:52
* txwikinger hands apachelogger a warm coat21:52
Riddellnixternal: apt bombing out doesn't count as "all good" :)21:54
Riddelllex79: retried21:54
nixternalRiddell: true, but I never had to '--force-overwrite' with dpkg21:57
* apachelogger puts a hacking-for-Nightrose sign up21:59
* Nightrose likes hacking-for-nightrose21:59
Nightrosewhat are you hacking on? :D21:59
apacheloggerInitialized empty Git repository in /home/me/src/bzr/release-script-refactor/amarok-0.1/.git/22:00
* Nightrose hugs apachelogger22:00
claydohmy 4.5 beta upgrade went pretty well, akonadi error gone, too :)22:02
Tm_Tclaydoh: have kmail working?22:02
claydohyes, I di have to install some not-installed packages22:03
claydohgimme a sec to pull the info up22:03
claydohTm_T: libkontactinterface4 and  libakonadi-contact422:06
claydohI think those were in the old kdepimlibs-data package, not sure if the recent ppa updates fix this22:07
apacheloggerNightrose: do you use the cmdline args or the kdialogs?22:08
Nightrosecause not everything is in the dialog22:09
Nightroselike tagging/nottagging dosc/nodocs22:09
apacheloggerthe stupid dialog shall die :P22:09
apacheloggerubuntuone-kde built \o/22:10
apacheloggerand failed on amd6422:10
apacheloggerthank you static linking22:10
* apachelogger needs a guinea pig with i386 ;)22:11
claydohapachelogger: oink oink?22:15
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apacheloggerclaydoh: do you have ubuntuone installed?22:17
apacheloggerif so, please remove it22:17
apacheloggerclaydoh: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:apachelogger/ubuntuone-kde; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-kde22:17
claydohahh, no22:17
apacheloggerthen get a ubuntuone account if you dont have one yet22:17
apacheloggerand then start ubuntuone-kde and see what happens 22:17
apacheloggerNightrose: Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * rapachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601212342-5cf643a2st903f61 release-script-refactor/lib/ (optparse.rb query.rb starter.rb vcs-git.rb): add git branching support22:24
Nightrosekubotu: order cookies for apachelogger22:24
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to apachelogger.22:24
claydohapachelogger: well something is running :) ubuntuone-syncd is sucking my old laptops's cpu cycles22:32
claydohapachelogger: no tray icon, tho22:32
apacheloggerclaydoh: also not if you show the whole tray?22:33
apachelogger+ did you get to auth with the cloud?22:33
claydohno, I did have u1 installed but removed - ooh there's the icon  now22:34
claydohshould I delete the configs for u1?22:35
apacheloggerstupid me22:37
apacheloggeryou need to patch syncdaemon ;)22:37
claydohwell this time it opened the gnome-keyring dialog for my password22:40
apacheloggersyncdaemon is horrible and uses gnome-keyring only22:40
apacheloggerclaydoh:  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/syncd-kwallet.patch; sudo patch /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py syncd-kwallet.patch22:40
claydohugly :)22:41
apacheloggerthen relogin or something22:41
apacheloggerafter that sd should use kwallet22:41
* apachelogger is wondering why there was no auth dialog though22:41
apacheloggerthe authhandler should currently try authing whenever there is no appropriate key in kwallet :S22:42
claydohwell I did have the configs/keyring info from the previous gnome applet22:42
claydohbtw, using quassel as client /core is sooo nifty :)22:48
claydohno auth dialog yet.....22:51
apacheloggerNightrose: Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * rapachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601215726-a59o71ntz99sjyy7 release-script-refactor/lib/l10n.rb: Strip #~ from translations22:57
apacheloggerall pushed and happy22:57
apacheloggerclaydoh: then something is broken :(22:58
apacheloggerclaydoh: is ubuntuone-auth running?22:58
apacheloggerclaydoh: does the tray thingy sip tea yet?22:58
claydohapachelogger: yes, it is doing so now23:00
* claydoh should have tried this on a newer machine :)23:01
apacheloggerclaydoh: kill it23:01
apacheloggerclaydoh: then start ubuntuone-auth on a terminal23:01
apacheloggerand restart the tray thingy23:01
claydohkill which? suncd?23:01
apacheloggerubuntuone-auth 23:01
apacheloggeroh oh oh23:01
apacheloggerbefore starting it from the terminal ... do kdebugdialog and turn on everything23:02
apacheloggerjust to be sure ;)23:02
apacheloggerthen query me the output or send it by mail23:02
claydohit may be a bit later, I have to start cooking dinner23:03
* apachelogger downloads kubuntu iso and installs vm ^^23:03
claydohapachelogger: it is also my wife's laptop :/ so I will try it from my media pc running kde 4.4.3, unbless it is ok to run it on 4.5 on my personal laptop ;)23:05
apacheloggerI am not using workspace stuff... so :P23:06
apacheloggerno abi issues for me \o/23:06
* claydoh runs to cook his fish and asparagus....23:07
apacheloggerKRF: how much ram does your dearest kubuntu vbox have?23:07

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