[00:08] <a|wen> looks like kdebase-runtime got some new files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/searchhandlers/ ... should they go into kdebase-runtime-data?
[00:11] <a|wen> (.desktop and .html files)
[00:12] <Tm_T> sounds like -data then
[00:20] <a|wen> -data it will be then
[00:36] <debfx> JontheEchidna: if you are ok with it, i'll do the kmozillahelper changes tomorrow
[00:52] <ryanakca> Riddell: Aye, sure. Have anything prepared or shall I make it up as I go?
[00:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: Rails reinforces the odds of insanity.
[00:59] <ScottK> ryanakca: Thanks.
[01:14] <a|wen> neversfelde: retried the kdebase-workspace to have them build now that kdepimlibs is there
[01:18] <a|wen> well time to take a break for the night...
[01:41] <ScottK> Nightrose: Is your blog not on planet Ubuntu?  We should fix that.
[01:50] <lex79> ScottK or JontheEchidna: can you upload kdebase-runtime from bzr please?
[02:33] <rbelem> ScottK, around?
[02:33] <ScottK> rbelem: Sort of.
[02:33] <rbelem> :-)
[02:34] <ScottK> I'm doing several things right now, but if you don't mind me beeing laggy, we can chat.
[02:34] <rbelem> no problem
[02:39] <rbelem> ScottK, i'm still fighting with ksambashare and i want to keep it sane. i'm making lots of changes and i want to know if am i making it complicated or is it ok to follow this path.
[02:40]  * ScottK probably isn't the best person to ask about htat.
[02:40] <rbelem> ok
[02:41] <rbelem> it would be nice to discuss about this with agateau, but he is offline
[02:49] <rbelem> i think i found a solution
[02:50] <ryanakca> Riddell: In any case, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.3.1 . If you want to edit it, https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/151/edit .
[04:17] <ScottK> Riddell: Why is libsmokebase4-3 not libsmokebase3?  It's soname is 3.
[07:57] <Nightrose> ScottK: it is but i'm always hesitant to post there tbh in fear of getting beaten for too much k and non-ubuntu stuff
[07:57] <Nightrose> (i syndicate a specia category)
[08:12] <jussi> oh sigh...
[08:13] <jussi> because I have rekonq dailes, I cant report ubuntu bugs against rekonq... :(
[08:13]  * jussi goes to find how to file manually
[08:16] <a|wen> jussi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq/+filebug
[08:17] <jussi> a|wen: ahh, thanks. 
[08:17] <a|wen> np :)
[08:23] <jussi> awesome. 2 bugs filed :)
[08:25] <a|wen> better if you said fixed :P
[08:34] <apachelogger> KRF: your current akonadi failure seems to be of a different nature :/
[09:00] <KRF> apachelogger :'(
[09:01] <apachelogger> that is the beauty of akonadi
[09:01] <apachelogger> KRF: I think your mysql is not terminating properly
[09:01] <apachelogger> and that causes trouble on next startup
[09:01] <jussi> a|wen: I do what I can... 
[09:01] <apachelogger> at least that is the only way I can explain the other two failed tests youve got
[09:02]  * apachelogger is mirroring the archives again ^^
[09:06] <jussi> So how does one forward bugs upstream? 
[09:06] <apachelogger> you report them at bko and close the launchpad bug
[09:07] <apachelogger> well, latter only if the surverity is not super high or trackworthy
[09:07] <jussi> even for rekonq?
[09:07] <apachelogger> jussi: if rekonq is tracked on bko, yes
[09:07] <apachelogger> otherwise use whatever bugtracker rekonq uses ^^
[09:07] <jussi> bug 588158 and bug 588160
[09:08] <jussi> wasnt there someway to link it in LP ?
[09:09] <apachelogger> there was, but it is overly pointless since the lp bug will be closed anyway
[09:10] <apachelogger> cant find the wiki page in the pile of duplicated information :/
[09:11] <apachelogger> jussi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Forwarding upstream
[09:11] <jussi> ooh, excellent, thank you
[09:11] <apachelogger> ah
[09:11] <apachelogger> there it is 
[09:11] <apachelogger> jussi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches
[09:12] <apachelogger> obviously one would be searching for bug watch and not how to link a bug upstream -.-
[09:12] <apachelogger> *sigh*
[09:13] <jussi> heh
[09:14] <jussi> I just want to make sure the right eyes get on the bug...
[09:14] <apachelogger> in that case I better do not look at it ;)
[09:14] <jussi> :D
[09:15] <apachelogger> jussi: bug 588158 might not be related to localhost btw
[09:15] <jussi> apachelogger: did that memenu ever eventuate?
[09:15] <apachelogger> no
[09:15] <apachelogger> memenu is crap
[09:15] <jussi> lol
[09:15] <apachelogger> long live soundmenu
[09:15] <apachelogger> !
[09:15] <jussi> soundmenu?
[09:15] <apachelogger> see mailing list
[09:16] <apachelogger> ouch
[09:16] <apachelogger> I think I have a bit of a tense neck
[09:16] <jussi> heh
[09:16] <jussi> apachelogger: yeah, I had sore neck yesterday
[09:16] <apachelogger> anyhow, about that localhost bug ... I think that the problem is more of the sort that mr rekonq just doesnt second guess the user when a port number was provided
[09:17] <jussi> hrm?
[09:18] <apachelogger> if you try hello.com:100 it will also go to google
[09:18] <apachelogger> if you specify the protocol as http it will indeed try to access that URL
[09:18] <apachelogger> so I suppose the fix ought to be as "easy" as adding protocol expansion to http
[09:18] <apachelogger> jussi: the bug is not related to localhost but to the port number in combination with missing protocol
[09:18] <jussi> ahh
[09:18] <jussi> right
[09:19] <apachelogger> rekonq fails to parse that as host:protocol and makes it a search term
[09:19] <apachelogger> while when there is a http:// involved it will just assume everything past the http:// is a URL and try to access it
[09:19] <jussi> See I figure if we are going to have rekonq in by default, Ill use it as much as possible and tell people where it falls down for me :)
[09:19] <apachelogger> are we going to have it by default? :P
[09:19] <jussi> yeah, that makes sense
[09:20] <jussi> apachelogger: I thought so?
[09:20] <apachelogger> that should proof interesting
[09:21] <jussi> apachelogger: I _think_ the decision was that as long as they released on time, we would switch. but I may be wrong...
[09:22] <apachelogger> hm
[09:22] <apachelogger> "Include a decent web browser in Kubuntu Maverick"
[09:22] <apachelogger> wow
[09:22] <apachelogger> defining a proser that is not capable of protocol expansion if a port is involved is.... sad
[09:22] <jussi> well it _is_ "Maverick"
[09:22] <jussi> :P
[09:23] <jussi> apachelogger: I guess thats why Im reporting bugs?
[09:24] <apachelogger> there is a large difference between kubuntu members reporting bugs and having users exposed to the software
[09:24] <apachelogger> as seen within the past
[09:25] <jussi> apachelogger: yes, true. but it is Maverick... not $LTS
[09:26] <apachelogger> so we are now actually carrying LTS through and not just fix some random bugs that might happen to affect someone important enough for us to care?
[10:18] <apachelogger> $ grep fluffy cdimage/scratch/fluffy/daily/debian-cd/i386/lucid-alternate-i386.list /pool/main/f/fluffy-unicorn/fluffy-unicorn_0.0.0~alpha1~1.gbpe0601f_i386.deb
[10:18] <apachelogger> fregl: apparenlty I just built the first fluffy iso
[11:07] <a|wen> as we don't have a libsmokekde-dev package for all the .so files for libraries in libsmokekde4-3 i suppose that we should just not ship them?
[11:07] <a|wen> (lucid kde 4.4.4)
[11:07] <a|wen> Riddell: ^^?
[11:10] <jussi> apachelogger: apart from the theme, what is different about fluffy from kubuntu?
[11:13] <Riddell> a|wen: right
[11:13] <a|wen> Riddell: what about the qyoto/mono bindings? ... those seems to have no sane place either
[11:19] <Mamarok> Riddell: I managed to install it now, but had to force-overwrite about 14 packages
[11:20] <Mamarok> Riddell: but what happened to the systray icons? Thsoe are not Oxygen ions and look dreadful
[11:21] <Mamarok> they totally lack color
[11:22] <Riddell> a|wen: has anything changed sine 4.4.3?
[11:22] <Riddell> Mamarok: did you keep a copy of what needed to be force-overwrite?
[11:23] <Mamarok> well, I have the history, will copy that and filter, takes just a moment
[11:23] <Riddell> Mamarok: icon colour is a decision of someone upstream and follows what other platforms have done, I guess it's a matter of taste
[11:24] <Mamarok> it looks horrible, not oxygen like at all, has nuno seen that? I bet he would not like it
[11:25] <a|wen> Riddell: hard to know without rebuilding if any not-installed files was there as well ... hoped to skip building 4.4.3 (but well, might as well start the build now then)
[11:25] <Mamarok> btw, kdetoys is broken
[11:26] <Riddell> a|wen: hang on, what are the not installed files?
[11:26] <a|wen> Riddell: a bunch of files in /usr/lib/mono/qyoto/
[11:36] <fregl> apachelogger: \o/ whoohoo
[11:36] <fregl> I will spend today on parley handbook writing though, if I can make myself do that... we got kde doc freeze tomorrowish
[11:37] <apachelogger> handbook writing still beats design document writing :P
[11:38] <Riddell> a|wen: one way to check would be comparing if any CMakeLists.txt files have changed between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4
[11:39] <apachelogger> jussi: software selection
[11:39] <jussi> apachelogger: ok. :) 
[11:39] <apachelogger> also fluffy is currenlty getting documented CD building procedure :P
[11:39] <jussi> :D
[11:39] <apachelogger> also I got hci exam in 20 minutes Oo
[11:40]  * apachelogger should change his pyjamas for something more fitting
[11:40] <jussi> lol
[11:46] <a|wen> Riddell: true ... but then there might be less work in just letting it finish the compile; if someone could remember, that was the easy solution
[11:52] <a|wen> Riddell: seen http://randomguy3.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/d-bus-threading-issues/ ?
[11:56] <Riddell> a|wen: 
[11:56] <Riddell> a|wen: no, seems important though
[11:57] <a|wen> Riddell: indeed ... and if we are going to get a core library patched like that for maverick, we better gonna do it early
[11:59] <Riddell> after alpha 1 freeze 
[11:59] <Riddell> Mamarok: did you find the overwrite error logs?
[12:01] <Mamarok> didn't have time, was ranting about those horrible SysTray icons in plasma, but as usual, they ignore people
[12:02] <Mamarok> so far I have only heard complaints from users, if I would want monochrome icons, I would have chosen that, they pretend it is less disturbing the work, I find it extremely disturbing and ugly
[12:02] <Mamarok> not consistent with the rest of the desktop and panel icons
[12:17] <Mamarok> Riddell: apparently I should be able to go back to the old icons, erasing /share/apps/desktoptheme/*/icons in the KDE4 install folder, where is that?
[12:17] <Mamarok> and how can I do that?
[12:18] <Riddell> Mamarok: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/
[12:18] <Mamarok> ah, thanks
[12:23] <Mamarok> Riddell: thanks a bunch, erasing that icon fonder reverts to the normal icons, that made my day :)
[12:24] <Mamarok> but some plasma people can't live with the truth apparently... I'm on sebas' ignore list now :) (wich doesn't bother me the least)
[12:51] <oxymoron> May I ask, the Akonadi is it possible for it to MAYBE make it until Maverick stable release?
[12:52] <Riddell> oxymoron: I don't understand the question
[12:54] <oxymoron> Riddell: Well somewhere I read Akonadi will delay their release of stable Akonadi for, oh it maybe was KDE 4.5. But well, do you think Akonadi will be done before Kubuntu 10.10?
[12:55] <Riddell> KDE Pim is delaying its release, it should be released in time for maverick, which one we pick we will have to decide based on what seems most stable
[12:56] <oxymoron> So hopefully I got a working KMail in newxt version of Kubuntu?
[12:58] <Riddell> I hope so too
[12:59] <oxymoron> Seems like 10.10 will be that THIS IS IT moment with QT 4.7, KDE 4.5.x, reconq, new installer, Better KPackageKit and so on.
[13:00] <Riddell> new installer?
[13:00] <oxymoron> Kubuntu Maverick KPackageKit App Center
[13:01] <Riddell> oh aye
[13:01] <oxymoron> Oh nvm with new installer, I confused myself that they should merge kubuntu default and netbook into one single image :P
[13:02] <oxymoron> As far as I can tell reconq seems extremely fast, get 100/100 on Acid 3, uses WebKit, A LOT OF dev tools for web developers like me, better tab browsing, clean, really neat bookmark system and so on.
[13:08] <Tm_T> oxymoron: it's rekonq
[13:08] <oxymoron> Tm_T: Yeah sorry, I noticed that when doing sudo apt-get install reconq xD :P
[13:09] <oxymoron> I am not sure I like Rekonq logo though, looks a little bit scary :D
[13:09] <oxymoron> Maybe that might frighten all other browsers :D
[13:10] <oxymoron> Probably faster then Chromium/Chrome
[13:11] <oxymoron> What I like the most is that its developed by a web developer, FINALLY!
[13:14] <oxymoron> What I dont like, the adress bar is to darn thin :D
[13:15] <txwikinger> Riddell: looks like we make this evening with 4.4.4
[13:17] <oxymoron> txwikinger: Sweet, will it be packaged to "stable" Kubuntu later on (I have no rush, just wonder because I like to be out early with new stuff, for a reason I cant imagine)
[13:25] <Riddell> txwikinger: it's looking good
[13:29] <ghostcube> http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but-no-more-windows/   :)
[13:36] <JontheEchidna> my windows don't have menus today :(
[13:37] <Riddell> uh oh
[13:37] <Riddell> agateau: ^^
[13:48] <claydoh> upgraded to 4.5, mostly smooth process. had to install libakonadi-contact4 and  libkontactinterface4 to get kontact yo run. though
[13:49] <claydoh> and I agree with Mamarok that those tray icons simply clash with everything else
[13:49] <claydoh> aside from their relative ugliness
[13:58] <Mamarok> claydoh: don't think you can tell that to anybody in KDE, you will be acused of being a moron, "you will get used to", that you are agressing others and violating the CoC, just happend to me
[13:58]  * Mamarok seriously ponders to leave that whole mess where opinions can't be voiced anymore
[13:58] <Tm_T> Mamarok: it didn't go like that, IMO
[13:58] <claydoh> ??? seriously???
[13:58] <Mamarok> becuase it is not the same as sebas'
[13:58] <Mamarok> seriuosly
[13:58] <Tm_T> oh come on...
[13:59] <Mamarok> Tm_T: oh, you haven't seen what else I was told
[13:59] <Tm_T> Mamarok: what I saw in channels, you were very aggressive towards others
[13:59] <Mamarok> Tm_T: I was not, cerftainly not inted to be, I juat gave my honest opinion
[13:59] <Mamarok> just
[14:00] <Mamarok> Tm_T: anyway, off for treatment
[14:00] <Tm_T> Mamarok: it looked very aggressive to me
[14:00] <Tm_T> also you were told several times where that very same discussion has been going
[14:00] <Tm_T> also how to solve for you
[14:00] <Mamarok> well, I sais it was ugly, inconsistend and that I don't want any monochrome icons on my desktop and how I can change that back, and sebas immediately agrssed me
[14:00] <Tm_T> so really, please don't continue this unnecessary "fight"
[14:01] <Mamarok> no, I will leave KDE, that is just the drop too much
[14:01] <Tm_T> Mamarok: please don't
[14:02] <Mamarok> of course I will, since my contribution is totally disegarded, and telling the truth is not allowed, I can't continue in a project like that, where people can't accept that not everybody shares their opinion
[14:02] <a|wen> txwikinger: kdebindings done
[14:02] <txwikinger> a|wen: yeah \o/
[14:02] <Tm_T> Mamarok: noone said you cannot share your opinion
[14:03] <Tm_T> Mamarok: it was all about _how_ you do it
[14:04] <Tm_T> Mamarok: please, step back for a moment and let's continue then later
[14:07] <txwikinger> a|wen: I think someone needs to take over kdebase
[14:10] <a|wen> txwikinger: you might be right ... bulldog98 isn't around?
[14:11] <txwikinger> a|wen: I tried to ping him a couple of times, he has not responded
[14:11] <txwikinger> I would think this packages might be too difficult for his experience level
[14:12] <txwikinger> We need to mentor him a little
[14:12] <a|wen> txwikinger: sure ... i'll set kdebase to build in the background; hopefully it's a nice and easy one
[14:13] <txwikinger> a|wen: sounds good
[14:13] <txwikinger> I need kdebase for my last package in work
[14:14] <a|wen> yeah .. looks like we are almost finished
[14:20] <agateau> Riddell: JontheEchidna: sorry was away
[14:21] <agateau> I guess it's time to upgrade my desktop to Maverick if I want to track that bug
[14:21]  * agateau is not sure upgrading now is a good idea
[14:22]  * Riddell is not sure either
[14:22] <Riddell> but I am installing the first cd images from maverick, virtual machine only for now
[14:23] <agateau> Riddell: just curious: what vm system do you use
[14:23] <agateau> ?
[14:23] <Riddell> virtualbox-ose
[14:23] <JontheEchidna> maverick's been working fairly well for me
[14:24] <JontheEchidna> but then, I'm crazy :D
[14:24] <agateau> JontheEchidna: can you try something for me?
[14:26] <bulldog98> a|wen: I’m here
[14:26] <JontheEchidna> agateau: sure
[14:26] <a|wen> bulldog98: do you have kdebase finished?
[14:26] <agateau> JontheEchidna: install d-feet, connect to the session bus, and check if there is something named org.ayatana.WindowMenu.Registrar in the list on the left
[14:27] <bulldog98> a|wen: not by now started
[14:28] <a|wen> bulldog98: okay ... so you wouldn't mind me grabbing that one?
[14:28] <bulldog98> a|wen: no i won’t :P
[14:28] <bulldog98> a|wen: I think I need an mentor the next time and maybe more free time
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> agateau: looks like it's registered: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktoplb1444-jpg.jpg
[14:29] <agateau> JontheEchidna: that would be the reason why your menus are missing
[14:30] <agateau> JontheEchidna: do you have the menubar applet installed?
[14:30] <a|wen> bulldog98: just ask in here, when you run into trouble :) ... and if you think it might take a while, be sure to grab a leaf-package from here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph
[14:30] <JontheEchidna> agateau: installed, yes. Not running, though
[14:30] <bulldog98> a|wen: saw that before
[14:31] <agateau> JontheEchidna: there was a bug with the applet: when it is removed it forgets to unregister the WindowMenu.Registrar thing
[14:31] <JontheEchidna> agateau: I did have it earlier today
[14:31] <agateau> JontheEchidna: this cause Qt to think it can still export the menu
[14:31] <agateau> JontheEchidna: restart plasma then, it should fix it
[14:31] <JontheEchidna> ok
[14:31] <agateau> (kquitapp plasma-desktop ; plasma-desktop)
[14:32] <agateau> I need to release a new version of the applet with this fix
[14:32] <JontheEchidna> agateau: much better
[14:32] <agateau> JontheEchidna: note that you will need to restart your applications as well :/
[14:32] <JontheEchidna> yup
[14:32] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[14:33] <agateau> you're welcome
[14:34] <Riddell> phew
[14:36] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601133623-hy3saui1iir75sez * src/api/Subscription.cpp Fix crash due to missing dptr
[14:50] <a|wen> txwikinger: kdebase is in ppa should be ready in less than an hour
[14:50] <txwikinger> a|wen: cool.. I will upload kdeutils when kdebase is ready
[14:55] <a|wen> txwikinger: cool ... when is official/upstream release?
[14:56] <Riddell> a|wen: sebas and dirk seem to be talking about the next few hours
[14:56] <Riddell> anyone tested it yet?
[14:56] <txwikinger> Riddell: no
[14:57] <a|wen> Riddell: not yet ...
[14:59] <Riddell> oh kde-l10n, why do you take so long?
[14:59] <a|wen> Riddell: how long has it been going on with it?
[15:00] <Riddell> since whenever I put my name in the wiki
[15:00]  * a|wen recalls that has been a while
[15:00] <Riddell> I had a few false starts due to missing tools
[15:00] <Riddell> mostly it's getting the .desktop files out of svn which takes the time
[15:03] <a|wen> that could take while
[15:05] <Riddell> fortunately with maverick CD testing and archive admin I have plenty of other things to fill my time :)
[15:05] <a|wen> heh, then we wont worry ;)
[15:12] <txwikinger> Riddell: maverick CD testing?
[15:12] <txwikinger> are there already maverick CDs?
[15:24] <Riddell> txwikinger: alpha 1 this week
[15:25] <txwikinger> We already have alpha1? Man time is a lot faster than it used to be
[15:27] <a|wen> looks like we get an extra bugfix release this time around: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4235
[15:37]  * Riddell uploads 4.4.4 l10n to updates PPA
[15:44] <a|wen> Riddell: we're not going through staging?
[15:45] <Riddell> not much point for l10n i think, little danger to users and launchpad can be fragile when copying around GB of packages
[15:46] <a|wen> okay ... valid reasons
[15:46]  * Riddell out for 30 mins
[15:46] <nixternal> kdebase-plasma <- this shouldn't be removed right when doing the latest upgrades?
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> <3 KProgressDialog
[15:50] <shtylman> why is api.kde down again...
[15:50] <shtylman> sigh
[15:52] <nixternal> why does my lucid update want to remove kdebase-plasma and kdepimlibs-data, as well as a few other ones?
[15:52] <a|wen> txwikinger: kdebase done
[15:52] <a|wen> nixternal: do you have any PPA's enabled?
[15:52] <nixternal> yup
[15:53] <nixternal> it seems there is the 4.4.80 upgrade available
[15:53] <nixternal> no 4.4.80 for kdebase-plasma, so I am guessing it is either getting removed on purpose or there is a booboo somewhere
[15:54] <a|wen> nixternal: ninjas ppa enabled maybe?
[15:54] <nigelb> nixternal: heya! I haven't seen in you in some time :)
[15:54] <nixternal> a|wen: experimental
[15:55] <nixternal> kubuntu-ppa-experimental-lucid.list and kubuntu-ppa-ppa-lucid.list
[15:56] <a|wen> nixternal: if you haven't upgraded to 4.4.80, you can help test out 4.4.4 first?
[15:56] <txwikinger> a|wen: in the process of sending up kdeutils
[15:57] <nixternal> hrmm, kdebase-plasma isn't in the packages in maverick either, so I am guessing it is no longer needed
[15:57] <a|wen> nixternal: looks like it has been removed, yeah
[15:59] <nixternal> libkdcraw8-dev, libkonqsidebarplugin4 libkwineffects1 libmarble4 libplasma-applet-system-monitor4 libplasmaclock4 libprocesscore4 libprocessui4 libtaskmanager4 libweather-ion4
[15:59] <nixternal> not seeing any replacements for those :/ hrmm
[16:00] <nixternal> damn I am blind
[16:00]  * txwikinger hands nixternal some shades
[16:01] <nixternal> woo, time to go find work! peace out kubuscouts!
[16:02] <txwikinger> nixternal: good luck
[16:22] <txwikinger> a|wen: Riddell: kdeutils is in the ppa and building.. except of l10n this should be the last packages
[16:23] <a|wen> txwikinger: cool ... i'll upgrade as soon as it finishes
[16:31] <Riddell> nixternal: kdebase-plasma is gone
[16:31] <Riddell> nixternal: are you upgrading to experimental PPA?
[16:35] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601153548-i0o7j6h4p2e6t2tv * (4 files in 2 dirs) Icons++
[16:38] <Riddell> hmm, maverick CD installs but at boot KDM or something crashes
[16:40] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: seen bug 588090?
[16:42] <Riddell> hmm
[16:42] <Riddell> I wonder what would be a better home
[16:43] <agateau> Riddell: do you use the alternate iso to install Maverick? the daily-live/ dir still contains lucid
[16:43] <Riddell> yes, only alternate so far
[16:43] <agateau> ok
[16:44] <Riddell> and as I say that doesn't work too well
[16:44] <maco> live never happen before alpha 2 do they?
[16:44]  * agateau schedules a download for tonight
[16:44] <Riddell> they happen if they can be made to work but it's not a priority
[16:47]  * Riddell installs 4.4.4
[17:12]  * a|wen has installed 4.4.4 ... session restart
[17:12]  * Riddell holds breath
[17:16] <txwikinger> Riddell: don't worry.. any problems would be kde's
[17:18] <a|wen> upgrade went fine, and no errors so far
[17:18]  * Riddell breaths out
[17:18] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601161825-cwew5ckeubp0wkkj * src/api/ (Api.cpp Api.h) Last part of d-pointerisation
[17:18] <apachelogger> \o/
[17:29] <Riddell> 4.4.4 good here too
[17:30] <Riddell> a|wen, txwikinger: ok for me to copy to updates PPA?
[17:38] <apachelogger> fregl: did you break the opaque theme or something?
[17:38] <apachelogger> the panel renders all black here :/
[17:46] <fregl> apachelogger: not that I know of, it works here
[17:47] <apachelogger> maybe my graphics driver exploded :/
[17:47] <fregl> apachelogger: but it's plasma, so you never know
[17:47] <apachelogger> true true
[17:47] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601164723-v9nn3rwhl1npspnr * src/api/ (Api.cpp Api.h) <3 Q-Pointers too ^^
[17:47] <fregl> apachelogger: have you tried switching it on and off again? ask Nightrose if you need further help with that
[17:47] <apachelogger> lol
[17:47]  * Nightrose kicks fregl
[17:47] <Nightrose> :D
[17:47] <apachelogger> indeed I did :P
[17:48] <apachelogger> I even checked that it is plugged in
[17:52] <fregl> it still needs general fixing, but here opaque shines it its pinkish-white glory
[17:53] <apachelogger> tell you what, my transparent version is much better than your opaque one :P
[17:53] <apachelogger> clearly I am the better artist
[18:09] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601170837-w9i2vppjx5bj6t92 * debian/control builddep on kdebase-workspace
[18:12] <debfx> JontheEchidna: ping
[18:12] <JontheEchidna> debfx: pong
[18:13] <debfx> JontheEchidna: http://debfx.fobos.de/ubu/kmozillahelper_0.6.2-0ubuntu2.debdiff
[18:13] <JontheEchidna> kk
[18:14] <debfx> should contain all the changes we discussed yesterday
[18:14] <shadeslayer> lex79: did the MIR get some love?
[18:14] <Riddell> debfx: did chriscoulson talk to you about kmozillahelper?  he told me at UDS he knew of a couple of issues
[18:15] <a|wen> Riddell: i'd say go for it
[18:15] <debfx> Riddell: nope
[18:15] <Riddell> debfx: might be worth pinging him and finding out what the issues were
[18:16] <ScottK> Riddell and debfx:  IIRC he or micahg tlaked to JontheEchidna.
[18:17] <JontheEchidna> micahg talked to us about the naming issue
[18:17] <JontheEchidna> dunno if that was *the* issue or not
[18:21] <lex79> shadeslayer: dunno
[18:22] <lex79> Riddell: did you see the MIR wrote by shadeslayer?
[18:22] <lex79> for kdeedu I think
[18:22] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:23] <shadeslayer> !info libqt4-dev karmic
[18:23] <shadeslayer> lex79: do we have Qt 4.6 for karmic somewhere?
[18:24] <lex79> for karmic
[18:24] <lex79> for karmic ?
[18:24] <lex79> I don't think so
[18:24] <lex79> oh yes
[18:24] <lex79> in kubuntu beta backport ppa
[18:28] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: Did you need me for something?
[18:29] <apachelogger> no, I just wanted to say that ^^
[18:30] <imbrandon> apachelogger: how can i force qt4 when doing qmake -project ( it keep seeming to pick up qt3 ) ?
[18:30] <apachelogger> qmake-qt4
[18:30] <apachelogger> qmake-qt3
[18:31] <apachelogger> that one
[18:31] <imbrandon> doh
[18:31] <imbrandon> k
[18:31] <apachelogger> either
[18:31] <apachelogger> ^^
[18:31] <Riddell> lex79: which mir?
[18:32] <lex79> shadeslayer: ^^^ paste the link please
[18:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 587677
[18:33] <lex79> JontheEchidna: did you drop libglew build-dep from kdeedu?
[18:34] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like we need kdeedu out of New.
[18:34] <ScottK> lex79: It was promoted.
[18:34] <lex79> oh
[18:35] <shadeslayer> lex79: ScottK any idea if the kubuntu installer supports GPT?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> for partitioning my HD...
[18:35] <ScottK> None.
[18:35] <ScottK> shtylman is your man for installer stuff.
[18:35] <shadeslayer> ohk..
[18:35] <shadeslayer> shtylman: any idea if the kubuntu installer supports GPT?
[18:35] <lex79> shadeslayer: we don't need anymore the MIR, change the status to invalid please
[18:35] <shadeslayer> lex79: ok..
[18:35] <lex79> thanks :)
[18:36] <shadeslayer> thats 2 invalid MIR's to my name :P
[18:36] <shadeslayer> lex79: what do i write as to why where shutting it down?
[18:36] <Riddell> how did it get promoted without a MIR?
[18:36] <shtylman> shadeslayer: GPT?
[18:37] <lex79> ScottK: ^^^
[18:37] <shadeslayer> shtylman: GUID partition table
[18:37] <shtylman> what do you mean by supports?
[18:37] <ScottK> Riddell: IIRC pitti promoted it based on "it used to be in Main before".  There was some discussion on #uubntu-release, so consult your backscroll.
[18:37] <shadeslayer> shtylman: its a alternative to the MBR partitioning method
[18:37] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133414 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (8 files in 3 dirs) Initial import of batch installer. Basically works, but could have a few more nice features and definitely needs a bit of polish. Drop in replacement for install-package, though.
[18:37] <shtylman> I see
[18:38] <shadeslayer> shtylman: i mean that recently there was a guy in #kubuntu having issues with his GPT formatted HD
[18:38] <shtylman> shadeslayer: iirc it does not from a gui perspective... maybe debian installer (the backend) does
[18:38] <shtylman> if you want more details about that, ask cjwatson in #ubuntu-installer
[18:38] <shadeslayer> he couldnt install kubuntu on his GPT enabled/partitioned HD
[18:38] <shtylman> he knows the backend stuff
[18:39] <shadeslayer> shtylman: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GPT 
[18:39] <shtylman> shadeslayer: I think this may be something they are working on
[18:39] <shtylman> I know there is uefi work being done
[18:39] <shadeslayer> hmm.. lets ask shall we :)
[18:39] <Riddell> ryanakca: able to do us an announce for 4.4.4?
[18:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what happened to the kde 4.5 announcement?
[18:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: 4.5 has issues
[18:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i know.. HUGE issues :P
[18:41]  * shadeslayer will probably use 4.5 on arch... 
[18:42] <shadeslayer> since they have no kde* packages by default.. i should be good to go 
[18:43] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133417 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/ (qapt-batch/ src/) Folder rename
[18:45] <shadeslayer> ScottK: Congrats btw ;)
[18:45] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[18:46] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i dont know what it means though :P
[18:46] <ScottK> It is ~ the same as being core-dev is in Ubuntu for Debian.
[18:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh awesome!
[18:48] <txwikinger> Riddell: sorry was in a meeting
[18:57] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133428 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/ (CMakeLists.txt qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp) - Show speed in dialog label - Correct "success" message to incorporate whether or not the user is installing or removing packages
[19:01] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133430 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp build++
[19:02] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why do you not use Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE instead of BackendPrivate *d;?
[19:03] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: unaware of Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE's existence, I suppose
[19:04] <apachelogger> hmmm
[19:04] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/files/head:/src/api/
[19:05] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133431 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/Messages.sh ++Messages.sh
[19:05]  * txwikinger is running KDE4.4.4
[19:05] <apachelogger> Api uses a dptr with everything in place to grow beyond, and subscription uses a shared dptr (in case you are interested)
[19:06] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: lucky you :D
[19:08] <txwikinger> shadeslayer: According to Chinese custom indeed
[19:08]  * txwikinger wonders if he should tell Riddell not to test KDE 4.4.4 since it is a lucky number
[19:10] <Riddell> txwikinger: lucky for whom?
[19:10] <txwikinger> Riddell: lucky for the Chinese :)
[19:10] <Riddell> quite the opposite I'm sure
[19:13] <shadeslayer> hehe..
[19:13] <shadeslayer> shtylman: GPT is supported,though you can format to GPT from the installer,and BTRFS is not supported with lucid :'(
[19:14] <shtylman> shadeslayer: gotcha... yea... btrfs I know isn't supported to boot into
[19:14] <shtylman> you can have partitions with btrfs, but not root or boot
[19:16] <shadeslayer> shtylman: that just sucks... btrfs is supposed to be so much better :P
[19:16] <shtylman> shadeslayer: well... it is/was still experimental in lucid
[19:16] <shtylman> doesn't matter how much better it is *supposed* to be if it isn't released yet
[19:17] <shadeslayer> hmm :_
[19:17] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:17] <shtylman> you can't possibly expect an LTS to run on an unstable FS ... or any OS to run on an unstable FS
[19:17] <shtylman> but there is hope that it will be good for maverick and that all the support infrastructure will be updated
[19:19] <shadeslayer> shtylman: just a side note,#archlinux says that if i put ext2 on my /boot it should work fine
[19:19] <shadeslayer> ill be trying all that out after the 11th :D
[19:20] <stefan_> hi
[19:21] <stefan_> just if you did not notice already
[19:21] <stefan_> oxygen 4.4.4 just overwrote my 4.4.80 package ;)
[19:21] <txwikinger> Riddell: playing around with quite a number of kde apps, things seem to be ok
[19:21] <stefan_> or no ... it didn't
[19:21] <stefan_> sorry for the spam :(
[19:21]  * txwikinger does not have time for real extensive testing atm
[19:22]  * shadeslayer zsyncs maverick iso
[19:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why does the backend have public members?
[19:25] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I haven't figured out the pointer-fu to make them part of the private class
[19:27] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/api/Account.cpp#L180
[19:28] <JontheEchidna> I mean, yeah, one could make those members part of the private class, but I haven't ever been able to make the crazy apt api happy with how I've don eit
[19:28] <apachelogger> ^^
[19:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: why dont we have live CD's for alpha 1?
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: btw, know how to exit an app if you're app is a kprogressdialog?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> and is there a way to make a live ubuntu cd myself?
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> *your
[19:30] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: this->deleteLater() I suppose
[19:30] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: it's not priority task, so if it doesn't work rightaway, it wont exist
[19:30] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: can i build one my self?
[19:30] <Tm_T> I guess
[19:30] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: or maybe just emit closeClicked()
[19:31] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: any instructions i can read up on later?
[19:31] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: no idea, sorry
[19:31]  * shadeslayer googles
[19:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I don't know
[19:32] <apachelogger> oh
[19:32] <shadeslayer> http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Remastersys 
[19:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: considering it is derived from kdialog and that is derived from qdialog you should have a close() method
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> aha
[19:33] <shadeslayer> haha.. the script at the end of the page is missing :P
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[19:34] <apachelogger> remastering is incredibly scary
[19:34]  * apachelogger only does the real stuff ^^
[19:34] <apachelogger> need to blog about it too
[19:35] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133447 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Emit an error if qaptworker dies. This should really be a generic KMessageBox function that I could call e.g. from a potential errorOccurred function, tho.
[19:35] <shadeslayer> bah... no mention of remastering a alternate cd
[19:36] <shadeslayer> guess ill have to wait till alpha 2
[19:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I suppose remastering mint is just like remastering ubuntu anyway
[19:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: :P
[19:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dunno.. leave it,i just want a way to boot the ISO off my USB
[19:37] <shadeslayer> if theres a way to do that then no need to remaster
[19:37] <shadeslayer> im talking about the alternate CD tho
[19:40] <shadeslayer> lol.. opening www.apple.com spikes my CPU :P
[19:40] <shadeslayer> shoots upto 2 Ghz ><
[19:40] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601184022-31i7mhlf7jmuzfdg * CMakeLists.txt Add /usr/share/apps/cmake/modules as module path so that qjson can be found
[19:46] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133449 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Technically the download hasn't begun until just after here.
[19:46] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133450 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Debug cleanup, some comments, and disconnect stuff before we exit
[19:49] <shadeslayer> KDE 4.4.4 released :)
[19:49] <shadeslayer> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.4.php 
[19:52] <Riddell> needs ryanakca or make the kubuntu announcement
[19:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: /me ? :P
[19:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: /home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:37:29: error: libqapt/globals.h: No such file or directory      
[19:53] <apachelogger> /home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:38:29: error: libqapt/package.h: No such file or directory
[19:53] <Riddell> s/or/to/
[19:53] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: just committed a fix
[19:53] <apachelogger> ah
[19:53] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133455 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Modify for in-tree building
[19:53] <JontheEchidna> like, just as you highlighted me :D
[19:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: /home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:171: warning: unused parameter ‘success’
[19:53] <apachelogger> /home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:200: warning: unused parameter ‘ETA’
[19:53] <apachelogger> /home/me/src/svn/kde/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp:209: warning: unused parameter ‘percentage’
[19:53] <apachelogger> Q_UNUSED(var) :P
[19:54] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: if I do that, I'll forget and leave them there :P
[19:54] <apachelogger> / FIXME
[19:54] <apachelogger> // FIXME
[19:54] <apachelogger> even
[19:54] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442915/
[19:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: btw, the pkgAllUpgrade and pkgDistUpgrade need brackets
[19:55] <JontheEchidna> <3
[19:55] <apachelogger> your intention there is not immediately clear
[19:55] <apachelogger> and IMHO you really should use Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE and the Q_D macro whenver you need the d ptr for realz
[19:57] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133456 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Move private member variables to the Private class. Thanks to Harald Sitter.
[19:57] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: could you explain the advantages?
[19:58] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442918/
[19:58] <apachelogger> mostly
[19:58] <apachelogger> a) you can create a const pointer to simulate constness in an otherwise const function
[19:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we should probably edit the announcement page where it says binaries available from ....
[19:59] <apachelogger> b) you can easily grow the class to one with multiple derivates and shared d-pointer
[19:59] <shadeslayer> ive gtg
[20:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: IMHO is the only argument you need ... in a world with 100% const correctness ^^
[20:00] <apachelogger> a that is
[20:00] <apachelogger> b is just bous ;)
[20:00] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I seem to have broken qaptworker
[20:01]  * apachelogger thinks that libqapt would be a perfect target for doing unittesting ^^
[20:01]  * apachelogger adds that to his way too long todo
[20:02] <JontheEchidna> oh, the directory was locked and I haven't got in error reporting for qapt-batch ^.^
[20:08] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: is the overall structure of the library sane?
[20:09] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: didnt look that much yet
[20:09] <apachelogger> can review it later on
[20:09]  * apachelogger is currently fighting with ubuntuone-kde building
[20:10] <JontheEchidna> kk, thanks for the patches+review you've done so far
[20:21] <txwikinger> apachelogger: Peace not war!
[20:23] <apparle> does kubuntu use HAL to perform suspend etc?
[20:26] <apachelogger> yes
[20:29] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601192857-p7kjd6q2wf79lnbw * debian/control build dep on pkg-config, libkonq5-dev and libqca2-dev
[20:31] <CIA-91> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601193048-ubd8vgf8teq2dt6g * debian/control apparenlty some fella actually created a bugy qoauth pkg -> build-dep on libqoauth1 for the time being
[20:38] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: do you have a global include file or something?
[20:38] <apachelogger>     typedef QList<Group*> List;
[20:38] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133470 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) ++apidox All public members in QApt::Backend are now documented
[20:38] <apachelogger> should not be in group.h since it blocks removal of the group header
[20:38] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: there is a globals.h, yes
[20:39] <apachelogger> good thing qt creator doesnt display it ^^
[20:40] <JontheEchidna> globals.h is where I put all the enums and stuff
[20:40] <JontheEchidna> that are useful globally
[20:41] <apachelogger> hm
[20:41] <apachelogger> let me think again
[20:41] <apachelogger> foo
[20:42] <apachelogger> Horrible that it is inside the class :P
[20:43] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: IMHO that thingy should be changed from Group::List to GroupList and moved somewhere global
[20:44]  * JontheEchidna better write these down
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: same for Package::List, I would assume?
[20:46] <apachelogger> and PackageStates
[20:46] <apachelogger> but
[20:46] <apachelogger> IMHO that is tricky
[20:47] <apachelogger> either you keep it inside the appropraite classes 
[20:47] <apachelogger> which means that each class needs to be included in the backend header anyway
[20:47] <apachelogger> so assuming one would want to use the backend most likely one gets the other includes anyway
[20:48] <apachelogger> which makes all that stuff available like it was global anyway
[20:51] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133473 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Move cache include to cpp
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> first non-me commit \o/
[20:52] <CIA-91> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133474 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (TODO src/backend.h) -Clarification on what parameter downloadMessage emits -TODO++
[20:54] <JontheEchidna> So qapt-batch basically works, but it still needs error notification, and I'd like for it to get the "details" console like install-package has
[20:54] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133475 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h) Explicit ctors if less than 2 args please.
[20:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I do not think that details stuff is good UI wise TBH
[20:55] <apachelogger> it puts a terminal-like thingy right into the users face
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> good, because I haven't figured out the magic to grab the console output of the dpkg process that apt uses :D
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> it's voodoo enough getting the stuff from dpkg-status...
[20:57] <apachelogger> ^^
[20:57] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why does cache not have a dptr?
[20:57] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: also IMHO your indention is off ... namespaces should be indented, shouldnt they?
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: hmm, dunno why I didn't use a dptr for cache
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> definitely should have one, tho
[20:59] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133478 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.h cache.h group.h package.h) Explicit include guard naming QAPT_Foo_H instead of FOO_H
[21:00] <JontheEchidna> ^protection from namespace conflicts?
[21:00] <JontheEchidna> well, class name conflicts
[21:02] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: fluffy sighting on planet kde
[21:03] <JontheEchidna> http://eng.i-iter.org/content/how-relevant-ui-design
[21:03] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yes, public headers must be incredibly precise in their include guards, otherwise your package.h might conflict with the rpm package.h or something
[21:03] <apachelogger> uhhh
[21:04] <apachelogger> fluffy \o/
[21:05] <JontheEchidna> fluffy is definitely an untapped share of the market
[21:05] <JontheEchidna> until now ;)
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I'll experiment with giving QApt::Cache a Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE dptr once I get home
[21:07] <JontheEchidna> then the rest will follow
[21:08] <claydoh> apachelogger: will fluffy be available in fuchsia, or even aubergine???
[21:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: oh
[21:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: all done already *blush*
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: oh wells :D
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> bbl
[21:09] <apachelogger> claydoh: no aubergine
[21:09] <claydoh> fuchsia is fine, I like that color myself, actually purple is ok tho
[21:11] <claydoh> options are good :) you should go for kde 2.x menu/option schemes really
[21:12] <apachelogger> Oo
[21:12] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133482 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (cache.cpp cache.h) Dptr for Cache + forward declare all pkg-apt classes
[21:15] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: btw, you only need to document the namespace once, doxygen usually is smart enough to use it everywhere
[21:16] <apachelogger> same for derived functions, unless one provides a specific documentation it will use the base documentation IIRC
[21:18] <apachelogger> oh
[21:18] <apachelogger> package class needs a lot of love :/
[21:23] <NCommander> Riddell: apachelogger: I started looking at flights with Altas for Akademy, and QT4 should be fixed soonish (sorry for the ongoing delays, lifes been ... difficult)
[21:25] <lex79> someone can retry this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/4:4.4.80-0ubuntu2/+build/1767933
[21:33] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133491 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) Include cleanup for worker
[21:33] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133492 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (workeracquire.cpp workeracquire.h workerinstallprogress.h) More include cleanup
[21:33] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133493 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/cache.cpp Move initalizatoin of m_list where it blongs
[21:38] <CIA-91> [libqapt] sitter * 1133497 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (main.cpp qaptbatch.h) Includes again + Q_UNUSED
[21:44] <nixternal> Riddell: yeah, i upgraded from the experimental ppa...all is good it seems..had to keep doing 'apt-get -f install's as apt kept bombing out with errors, but it went through all the way after 3 or 4 times of doing that
[21:48] <txwikinger> nixternal: what were you upgrading too?
[21:49] <txwikinger> -o
[21:50] <nixternal> 4.5 beta 1 it seems
[21:52] <txwikinger> ah
[21:52] <apachelogger> brrr
[21:52] <apachelogger> my release script needs serious redoing
[21:52]  * txwikinger hands apachelogger a warm coat
[21:52] <apachelogger> cheers
[21:54] <Riddell> nixternal: apt bombing out doesn't count as "all good" :)
[21:54] <Riddell> lex79: retried
[21:55] <lex79> ok
[21:57] <nixternal> Riddell: true, but I never had to '--force-overwrite' with dpkg
[21:59]  * apachelogger puts a hacking-for-Nightrose sign up
[21:59] <Nightrose> \o/
[21:59]  * Nightrose likes hacking-for-nightrose
[21:59] <Nightrose> what are you hacking on? :D
[22:00] <apachelogger> Initialized empty Git repository in /home/me/src/bzr/release-script-refactor/amarok-0.1/.git/
[22:00] <Nightrose> wohooooooooooooo
[22:00]  * Nightrose hugs apachelogger
[22:02] <claydoh> my 4.5 beta upgrade went pretty well, akonadi error gone, too :)
[22:02] <Tm_T> claydoh: have kmail working?
[22:03] <claydoh> yes, I di have to install some not-installed packages
[22:03] <claydoh> gimme a sec to pull the info up
[22:06] <claydoh> Tm_T: libkontactinterface4 and  libakonadi-contact4
[22:07] <claydoh> I think those were in the old kdepimlibs-data package, not sure if the recent ppa updates fix this
[22:08] <apachelogger> Nightrose: do you use the cmdline args or the kdialogs?
[22:08] <Nightrose> both
[22:09] <Nightrose> cause not everything is in the dialog
[22:09] <Nightrose> like tagging/nottagging dosc/nodocs
[22:09] <apachelogger> the stupid dialog shall die :P
[22:10] <apachelogger> ubuntuone-kde built \o/
[22:10] <apachelogger> and failed on amd64
[22:10] <apachelogger> thank you static linking
[22:11]  * apachelogger needs a guinea pig with i386 ;)
[22:15] <claydoh> apachelogger: oink oink?
[22:17] <apachelogger> claydoh: do you have ubuntuone installed?
[22:17] <apachelogger> if so, please remove it
[22:17] <apachelogger> then
[22:17] <apachelogger> claydoh: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:apachelogger/ubuntuone-kde; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-kde
[22:17] <claydoh> ahh, no
[22:17] <apachelogger> then get a ubuntuone account if you dont have one yet
[22:17] <apachelogger> and then start ubuntuone-kde and see what happens 
[22:24] <apachelogger> Nightrose: Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * rapachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601212342-5cf643a2st903f61 release-script-refactor/lib/ (optparse.rb query.rb starter.rb vcs-git.rb): add git branching support
[22:24] <Nightrose> weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[22:24] <Nightrose> kubotu: order cookies for apachelogger
[22:24]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to apachelogger.
[22:32] <claydoh> apachelogger: well something is running :) ubuntuone-syncd is sucking my old laptops's cpu cycles
[22:32] <claydoh> apachelogger: no tray icon, tho
[22:33] <apachelogger> claydoh: also not if you show the whole tray?
[22:33] <apachelogger> + did you get to auth with the cloud?
[22:34] <claydoh> no, I did have u1 installed but removed - ooh there's the icon  now
[22:35] <claydoh> should I delete the configs for u1?
[22:37] <apachelogger> hm
[22:37] <apachelogger> ahhhhh!
[22:37] <apachelogger> stupid me
[22:37] <apachelogger> you need to patch syncdaemon ;)
[22:40] <claydoh> well this time it opened the gnome-keyring dialog for my password
[22:40] <apachelogger> yeah
[22:40] <apachelogger> syncdaemon is horrible and uses gnome-keyring only
[22:40] <apachelogger> claydoh:  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/syncd-kwallet.patch; sudo patch /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py syncd-kwallet.patch
[22:41] <claydoh> ugly :)
[22:41] <apachelogger> then relogin or something
[22:41] <apachelogger> after that sd should use kwallet
[22:41]  * apachelogger is wondering why there was no auth dialog though
[22:42] <apachelogger> the authhandler should currently try authing whenever there is no appropriate key in kwallet :S
[22:42] <claydoh> well I did have the configs/keyring info from the previous gnome applet
[22:48] <claydoh> btw, using quassel as client /core is sooo nifty :)
[22:51] <claydoh> no auth dialog yet.....
[22:57] <apachelogger> Nightrose: Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * rapachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100601215726-a59o71ntz99sjyy7 release-script-refactor/lib/l10n.rb: Strip #~ from translations
[22:57] <apachelogger> all pushed and happy
[22:57] <Nightrose> :)
[22:57] <Nightrose> :*
[22:58] <apachelogger> claydoh: then something is broken :(
[22:58] <apachelogger> claydoh: is ubuntuone-auth running?
[22:58] <apachelogger> claydoh: does the tray thingy sip tea yet?
[23:00] <claydoh> apachelogger: yes, it is doing so now
[23:00] <apachelogger> :/
[23:01]  * claydoh should have tried this on a newer machine :)
[23:01] <apachelogger> claydoh: kill it
[23:01] <apachelogger> claydoh: then start ubuntuone-auth on a terminal
[23:01] <apachelogger> and restart the tray thingy
[23:01] <claydoh> kill which? suncd?
[23:01] <claydoh> syncd
[23:01] <apachelogger> ubuntuone-auth 
[23:01] <apachelogger> oh oh oh
[23:02] <apachelogger> before starting it from the terminal ... do kdebugdialog and turn on everything
[23:02] <apachelogger> just to be sure ;)
[23:02] <apachelogger> then query me the output or send it by mail
[23:03] <claydoh> it may be a bit later, I have to start cooking dinner
[23:03] <apachelogger> omg
[23:03] <apachelogger> !
[23:03]  * apachelogger downloads kubuntu iso and installs vm ^^
[23:05] <claydoh> apachelogger: it is also my wife's laptop :/ so I will try it from my media pc running kde 4.4.3, unbless it is ok to run it on 4.5 on my personal laptop ;)
[23:06] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[23:06] <apachelogger> I am not using workspace stuff... so :P
[23:06] <apachelogger> no abi issues for me \o/
[23:07]  * claydoh runs to cook his fish and asparagus....
[23:07] <apachelogger> KRF: how much ram does your dearest kubuntu vbox have?