[00:05] <SkEmO> how do i identify as root in the root folder?
[00:06] <SkEmO> or better, how do i edit a file as root?
[00:07] <n8w> anyone usin s2disk for hibernation?
[00:07] <Tm_T> !sudo | SkEmO
[00:32] <schwarz22> I can't get my computer to recognize my printer. It suddenly stopped recognizing the printer a week ago. I have 10.04, and the printer was being recognized after I reinstalled with the latest version of kubuntu. My husband, who also has the new version, has no printer recognition problems, so it seems to be an isolated problem.
[00:33] <schwarz22> I am very new to the Linux scene, so I am unfamiliar with technical jargon.
[00:33] <BluesKaj> schwarz22, which printer?
[00:34] <schwarz22> I have a Canon i560
[00:34] <schwarz22> It's about 6 years old
[00:38] <BluesKaj> schwarz22, does  the printer show up in system settings/printer configuration ?
[00:39] <schwarz22> No, it lists two options: 1) print to postscript and 2) print to pdf
[00:40] <schwarz22> My previous troubleshooting options included unplugging the printer, and then plugging it back in, and closing and reopening okular.
[00:42] <jinny> I need a new computer fast... I'm thinking about getting a laptop, but I have never had a laptop... can I plug in my external LCD monitor and get a 3D-accelerated dual-head desktop with all laptops? ATI? nVidia? Because I don't want to be restricted to a tiny laptop screen all the time
[00:54] <BluesKaj> schwarz22, according to some quick research , the BJC7000 linux driver works with cups and your i560 printer.
[00:55] <schwarz22> Can you tell me which package that driver comes in? And if not, can you tell me how to install that driver?
[00:56] <SkEmO> ok crazy question, to update from a cd, i need to get the alternate cd or the desktop cd/netbook cd are fine?
[00:59] <Torch> SkEmO: desktop is ok
[01:00] <SkEmO> oh phew
[01:01] <BluesKaj> schwarz22, unfortunately i haven't been able to find the linux driver yet, but I'm still researching
[01:01] <schwarz22> Okay.
[01:14] <BluesKaj> schwarz22, could you run this in the konsole and post the output pls, bjfilterpixus560i
[01:14] <schwarz22> command not found
[01:15] <schwarz22> I found a deb file on openprinting.org
[01:15] <schwarz22> Trying to install it per their instructions
[01:29] <schwarz22> Got the driver now, just so you stop looking... thanks for the help.
[01:31] <BluesKaj> schwarz22, does it work ?
[01:32] <schwarz22> yeah, working ok
[01:33] <schwarz22> got the bjc-7000 driver as part of the gutenprint lsb package from openprinting.org
[01:35] <john__> Hey all, how do you enter single user mode on 10.04
[01:36] <john__> it used to be that you could hit escape in grub, and then select it, but that doesn't seem to work anymore.
[01:38] <BluesKaj> schwarz22, good stuff :)
[01:39] <OxDeadC0de> for some reason in 9.10 on another laptop the default user isn't being allowed to list wirelesss networks or connect to them (but I can get it to list them with sudo iwlist wlan0 scan)
[01:40] <OxDeadC0de> could there be some permission issues going on? ath5k problems?
[01:41] <schwarz22> Thanks. :)
[01:41] <okapi14> hi all, anyone use kita2 here? I have the following error "Kita2 needs ja_JP.UTF-8 locale." anyone know how to fix it?
[01:50] <BluesKaj> OxDeadC0de, you can configure it in system settings/advanced/login manager/users
[01:52] <BluesKaj> oop0s
[01:52] <BluesKaj> oops sorry
[01:53] <BluesKaj> OxDeadC0de, ignore my post...wrong person
[01:57] <zus> i dont remeber if ive asked but is there a bittornado channel?
[01:57] <zus> and there is, nvm. thanks
[01:57] <zus> i must cant spell right:)
[02:09] <samer> hi
[02:21] <SkEmO> nooooooo
[02:21] <SkEmO> it failed!! damn it
[02:39] <BluesKaj> zus, deluge is an excellent torrent client and there's always ktorrent too.
[02:41] <zus> BluesKaj,  i use ktorrent before i like it alot, but the site wont use ktorrent, and  in thier faq foe linux user says bittornado,...
[02:42] <BluesKaj> zus, which site
[02:42] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:42] <zus> just dont know how to make a torrent to upload
[02:46] <zus> BluesKaj,  i read/reading the faqs i cant firgure it out.
[02:47] <BluesKaj> best to check the forums for linux torrent clients , to keep things legal here
[02:51] <zus> yep =)
[03:22] <Barridus> virtuoso is taking up a ton of resources for no apparent reason, what's it for
[04:19] <Mattxf86> ok, so i have a problem
[04:20] <Mattxf86> If I'm not using my live disk, I can't get grub to find my OS. I installed it on a sd card, but found out that sd's aren't bootable on my system.
[04:21] <Mattxf86> anyone on here?
[04:27] <Mattxf86> luis, can i get some help
[04:27] <Mattxf86> or anyone
[04:29] <Mattxf86> comeon
[04:31] <Mattxf86> can i get some help
[04:32] <Mattxf86> GOODNESS
[04:32] <Razion> Anyone have experience dealing with multiple applications not being able to use sound at the same time?
[04:33] <Mattxf86> Im not sure theres anyone on here to help, no one seems to respond Razion
[04:33] <Razion> Mattxf86 This channel is quieter than #ubuntu. But people are here. You need to be patient.
[04:34] <Mattxf86> alright
[04:34] <Razion> What're you having issues with, anyways?
[04:34] <Razion> Anyone have experience dealing with multiple applications not being able to use sound at the same time?
[04:37] <obin> does anyone know why i couldn't get wine doors to load on kde
[04:40] <obin> hello does any one know how to world of warcraft working in wine herw
[04:42] <zus> anyone know how i can update ktorrent? or at least get the 4.0 version
[04:47] <obin> i don't think any one is in here that can help i think you can run it in normal updates i belevie
[04:51] <zus> yeah in the normal updates nothing is comming up for me yet
[04:53] <zus> obin,  does this help you for WoW?  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4031
[04:54] <zus> obin,  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14154 or that
[06:00] <tecjnology> anyone here have trouble with knetworkmanager? mine acts up on the regular
[06:13] <darkdelusions> tecjnology: like what kinda of issues
[06:14] <tecjnology> it gets stuck on the screen at times, sometimes its only partly visible. it also breaks out into the task manager so its like a running program but you cant close it
[06:14] <darkdelusions> that issue I have no had
[06:14] <tecjnology> its constant on mine
[06:14] <darkdelusions> have not even
[06:15] <tecjnology> when its partly visible i have to resize it to get it all back =]
[06:16] <tecjnology> is there a way to use another network manager?
[06:17] <darkdelusions> Someone suggested another network manager to me a while back (and I am running it i am trying to remember the name of it
[06:20] <darkdelusions> sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[06:20] <darkdelusions> sorry
[06:20] <darkdelusions> took me a minute to find it
[06:22] <darkdelusions> its the one I use and it 10x better then knetworkmanager
[06:22] <darkdelusions> or whatever the default is called
[06:24] <tecjnology> i'll give it a shot, thanks!
[06:36] <StrongOrder> Hello people! I am new to KDE, and I wonder how to make remote ssh logins integrate with kwallet? On Gnome, when I ssh into a server where I put my public key, I get asked for a password (GUI) and it remembers that for a period of time. How to do that under KDE with wallet?
[06:41] <zus> would some one walk me through compiling ktorrent 4.0 please? the cli isnt really a strong point and im not quite getting thehelp.ubuntu.com.community/compilingsoftware
[06:42] <tecjnology> darkdelusions: quite nice man, thanks for your help
[06:42] <darkdelusions> tecjnology: np it much better then default
[06:50] <zus> so if ktorrent is already installed and i have to compile and make ktorrent 4.0... when i build a common directory where ill be building the package in how/will it interfere with the previous ktorrent?
[06:55] <SkEmO> oh well
[06:55] <SkEmO> my laptop died after updating packages in lucid
[06:55] <SkEmO> D:
[06:55] <zus> oh no!
[06:56] <SkEmO> yep
[06:56] <SkEmO> im actually not kidding
[06:56] <zus> shouldn't be a big problem though? right?
[06:56] <zus> re-do the updates then?
[06:57] <SkEmO> i cant
[06:57] <SkEmO> it wont start
[06:57] <SkEmO> all i get is a shell with no root
[06:58] <zus> what about the live disc?
[06:58] <SkEmO> maybe
[06:58] <SkEmO> im gonna try
[06:58] <SkEmO> although i can get GRUB menu
[06:59] <zus> im waiting on some help in compiling software
[06:59] <SkEmO> oh
[07:02] <zus> i have to make a directory in  /usr/local/src but i dont know what that is or really what im doing...im just poking around till i think i might know what im doing
[07:29] <jussi> So my kmail has decided to separate itself from kontact. How do I get it back integrated?
[07:54] <ita> hi all, I have a problem with enabling desktop effects. It is disabled every time I login my system. I have ati card and I've install the proprietary ati driver.
[08:22] <skamster> hello all.. does someone know which splash-engine kubuntu uses? it doesn't seems to be usplash, like it's written yet.. (there are no configs and also the update-alternatives for uspash doesn't work).. i just want to change the picture and the resolution..
[08:23] <sksriharsha> hi !!!
[08:23] <basajaun> hi can somebody tell me what the heading from phonon rc is once opened I have wiped it clean unfortunately with heading as well please?
[08:23] <sksriharsha> got a problem regarding video display in dragon player while playing video files ...
[08:24] <basajaun> its in /.kde/share/config can someone have a look
[08:24] <sksriharsha> actually , i have no video output in dragon player except that the audio works fine ..any idea regardin this ??
[08:25] <sksriharsha> @basajaun : I think its related to hardware i.e audio right ??
[08:27] <basajaun> please look at your own file in kate and tell me what the heading between brackets at the top of the file says
[08:27] <basajaun> it open in kate in normal user
[08:28] <sksriharsha> [AudioDevice_HDA Intel, AD198x Digital\nIEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output_playback]
[08:29] <basajaun> ok so its probably adio device thanks
[08:29] <sksriharsha> guys . help me out .. no video output in dragon player :(
[08:30] <sksriharsha> yep .. welcome buddy :)
[08:33] <sksriharsha> can somebody tell me .. regarding no video n audio i dragon player :( while playing avi files ...
[08:39] <sksriharsha> help required ......... some1 please respond ..
[08:39] <sksriharsha> no video in any player :(]
[08:48] <sksriharsha> hello !!! somebody please help me .. no video output while playing video files in dragon player ...
[08:51] <avihay> sksriharsha: try to use another player first, it might just be the dragon
[08:51] <sksriharsha> same with other players too .. :(
[08:52] <sksriharsha> tried mplayer too ..
[08:52] <avihay> mplayer and vlc?
[08:52] <sksriharsha> with mplayer its not working .. i think its related to video driver .. :(
[08:53] <sksriharsha> didn't try vlc though .. since my internet is usable for browsing only .. i can't download too much :(
[08:55] <avihay> is it a specific video thats not working?
[08:55] <sksriharsha> not a single video is working .. tried avi , mkv .. etc ..
[08:55] <sksriharsha> installed all codecs too .
[08:57] <sksriharsha> any idea ??
[09:00] <sksriharsha> i tried kaffeine too .. audio is thr but no video :(
[09:03] <sksriharsha> any idea guys ??
[09:04] <avihay> well, I know that there were some issues with video and compositing
[09:05] <sksriharsha> i tried playing video files with out compositing ..
[09:06] <sksriharsha> still no luck :(
[09:09] <sksriharsha> just now tried .. kaffeine without composting ... video was blacked out :( but sound is thr
[09:16] <sksriharsha> hey .. without compositing kaffeine worked fine with video driver:xshm .. but didn't work with compositing :(
[09:27] <SkEmO> yay!! i manage to go livecd on lappy!
[09:27] <SkEmO> instlling now
[09:27] <SkEmO> 7.10 ¬¬
[09:27] <SkEmO> xD
[09:27] <FloodBotK2> SkEmO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <zus> sweet!
[09:27] <SkEmO> lawl FloodBotK2
[09:27] <zus> though im still waiting HAHA
[09:27] <SkEmO> zus hows your ktorrent going?
[09:28] <SkEmO> oh crap
[09:28] <zus> SkEmO,  poop!
[09:28] <SkEmO> xD
[09:28] <SkEmO> what was that again?
[09:28] <SkEmO> how to compole ktorrent 4?
[09:28] <SkEmO> compile*
[09:28] <zus> might be people are all drunk from the weekend no biggie lol!
[09:28] <zus> yeah
[09:28] <zus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[09:29] <SkEmO> omg ppl get drunk on the weekends?! blasphemy!
[09:29] <SkEmO> ohnoes!!
[09:29] <zus> im at the make a directory in usr/local/src but i dont know what im doing
[09:29] <SkEmO> cd stopped!!
[09:29] <SkEmO> damn it!!
[09:30] <SkEmO> hmm
[09:30] <zus> well,...its been an alright memorial weekend for me so far
[09:33] <SkEmO> i forgot about memorial day >.>
[09:33] <SkEmO> i missed the sales
[09:34] <e_t_> zus: the command to create a directory is mkdir.
[09:36] <zus> e_t_,  i've never been that comforable with the cli...plus am i creating a directory for ktorrent 4? then where is the previous version installed?
[09:37] <zus> SkEmO,  i did not go anywhere myself...only to a family get together really
[09:37] <e_t_> zus: are you compiling ktorrent from source?
[09:38] <zus> e_t_,  yes trying to, :)
[09:39] <zus> As of version 4.0rc1 you first need to compile and install libktorrent before you do ktorrent
[09:41] <e_t_> zus: Have you downloaded the tar.bz2 files from the website yet?
[09:41] <zus> i've downloaded the ktorrent-4.0.0.tar.bz2 and libktorrent-1.0..0.tarbz2....
[09:41] <e_t_> Where?
[09:41] <zus> theyre in my download folder
[09:42] <e_t_> OK. Let's make a special build directory in your home. At the same time, let's get you more used to the command line. It's really not scary.
[09:43] <zus> thanks,.. been at this (off and on all day) sorta...
[09:44] <e_t_> Open a terminal window and type "mkdir ~/build"
[09:46] <zus> ok
[09:48] <e_t_> Now type this: "mv ~/Downloads/libktorrent-1.0.0.tar.bz2 ~/build/"
[09:48] <e_t_> That will move the tarball into the build directory.
[09:49] <e_t_> Do the same, but with "ktorrent-4.0.0.tar.bz2" instead of libktorrent.
[09:49] <zus> no such file in directory ?!?!
[09:51] <e_t_> Hmm. OK. Well do this part graphically. Open your downloads folder in Dolphin (or Konqueror) and try to find the two files visually. Then copy and paste them into build
[09:52] <zus> both files copied...
[09:53] <e_t_> OK. Back to the terminal. Change directories with "cd ~/build"
[09:54] <zus> ~/build$_  is what i got correct?
[09:55] <e_t_> Yes.
[09:56] <e_t_> Now give the command "tar -xjvf libktorrent-1.0.0.tar.bz2" This will uncompress the file into something you can use. Do the same for the other file.
[09:56] <zus> is this the same as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo   i was up to "sudo chown yourusername....." part
[09:56] <zus> ok
[09:57] <e_t_> You don't have to do the chown thing because this is inside your home directory. You already own it!
[09:59] <zus> alright, both files are done
[10:01] <e_t_> Well do libktorrent first: "cd libktor" Then, before pressing Enter, press Tab. That should complete the directory name for you.
[10:02] <zus> ok
[10:03] <zus> this does seem easy enough but i'd never had known..
[10:04] <e_t_> Well make a build directory here, then change into it: "mkdir build && cd build"
[10:04] <SkEmO> damn it!!!
[10:04] <SkEmO> mountall doesent work!
[10:06] <zus> ok
[10:06] <Mehrab> Hi, I used to connect my pppoe connection through knetworkmanager, but for some reasons I made a connection through pppoeconf in console, after that I cannot connect with KNM, and it says Unmanaged, and no more respond
[10:09] <e_t_> zus: Now, we probably need to install some software, because KDE stuff has particular dependencies. Install the kde-devel meta-package with "sudo apt-get install kde-devel". This will take some time to download and install, depending on your connection. After this, I think you will be able to follow the instructions on the ktorrent website.
[10:09] <hrw> hi
[10:09] <SkEmO> hi
[10:09] <hrw> how stable is kde 4.4.80 in maverick?
[10:10] <e_t_> Mehrab: What are the contents of /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state ?
[10:11] <zus> e_t_,  do i do it the same directory we last built?
[10:12] <Mehrab> e_t_ : here http://pastebin.com/ti1n5aLt
[10:12] <e_t_> zus: It doesn't matter where you call apt-get from. It doesn't actually install things where you are, it always installs things to where they need to be.
[10:14] <e_t_> Mehrab: Is NetworkManager running? (ps -eaf|grep network)
[10:14] <wedo> hello
[10:14] <wedo> how can i identify the default runlevel
[10:16] <e_t_> wedo: The default runlevel for Debian-derived systems (like Ubuntu) is 2. This is different from other Linuxes like RedHat/Fedora, whose default runlevel is 5.
[10:16] <Mehrab> e_t_ : It's working, I think.   http://pastebin.com/3uGW2UCz
[10:17] <wedo> e_t_: when I check the runlevel it gives me "unknown"
[10:17] <wedo> how can I force it to boot on runlevel 2
[10:17] <e_t_> Mehrab: Oops! Capital N (ps -eaf|grep Network)
[10:18] <e_t_> wedo: Where are you checking the runlevel?
[10:18] <wedo> in the konsole
[10:18] <e_t_> wedo: What command?
[10:18] <wedo> e_t_: i used command : runlevel
[10:19] <Mehrab> e_t_ : http://pastebin.com/9843Z3ec
[10:19] <e_t_> wedo: You have the latest Ubuntu? The same command on my system returns "N 2".
[10:20] <wedo> yes I have lucid 10.4 with all updates
[10:21] <wedo> e_t_: my main problem is that there are some autostart programs does not start automaticaly e.g.: Knetworkmanager & cups
[10:21] <e_t_> Mehrab: I'm sorry. That's the end of what I know to do.
[10:23] <SkEmO> wedo you lucky man/girl
[10:23] <Mehrab> e_t_ : thanks anyway ;)
[10:24] <wedo> SkEmO: what do u mean :)
[10:24] <SkEmO> wedo my laptop died after all teh updates :S
[10:24] <SkEmO> never reached lucid
[10:24] <SkEmO> now all the filesystem on it is unmounted and i cant mount it back
[10:24] <wedo> oh sorry to hear so
[10:24] <SkEmO> it sucks
[10:29] <e_t_> wedo: were there any errors during the update process?
[10:29] <wedo> no
[10:30] <wedo> it was working fine
[10:31] <e_t_> wedo: I'd try an apt-get remove + apt-get install cycle on what's not working. That might reset them.
[10:32] <wedo> e_t_: I did so but its same
[10:32] <wedo> e_t_: I think the problems comes from the runlevel
[10:32] <zus> e_t_,  its done installing the last bit ya had me do,...this is from the site...do i start from line 3? http://pastebin.com/FXQSCECA
[10:33] <wedo> e_t_: I cannot shutdown or reboot my pc through the kickoff menu options, I have to use the command line
[10:34] <e_t_> zus: I think you should be able to start from #5. I had you do #19 just now, so you can skip that.
[10:36] <e_t_> wedo: I think the runlevel is another symptom of a deeper disease, though I don't know what.
[10:36] <zus> e_t_, thank you so very much...the site makes a bit more sense as i read it and scrolled back...
[10:36] <wedo> thanks e_t_
[10:36] <e_t_> zus: I told you the command line wasn't scary.
[10:37] <zus> oh do i uninstall the old ktorrent? or will this overwrite it? will it be a folder in my home all in my way or tucked away where the old ktortent is now...
[10:39] <zus> e_t_, is lines 5 and 6 supposed to be one line?
[10:40] <e_t_> zus: The last step in the compile process is "sudo make install". That will write it to system directories so that it can be used. It is a different step from just "make". Usually, compiled software will be installed to /usr/local/ instead of /usr/.
[10:45] <zus> lines 5 and 6 made the cursor become >
[10:48] <e_t_> Press Ctrl+C to get out of that. Be sure you get the whole line, including the .. at the end: "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` .." That should take a little time to complete. Then, once cmake is done, type make.
[10:52] <zus> gees -- configuring incomplete, errors occured!
[10:52] <zus> missinf GMP_INCLUDE_DIR GMP_LIBRARIES is the text,
[10:54] <e_t_> zus: Let's try "sudo apt-get install libgmp3-dev" They do cmake again.
[10:58] <zus> e_t_,  ok.. got errors again,...(missing: QCA2_LIBRARIES QCA2_INCLUDE_DIR) was there something i didnt download i should have?
[11:01] <e_t_> zus: Yes. This is the un-fun part of compiling -- getting all the dependencies in order. Enter the command "aptitude search qca2" and see what comes up. You are looking for packages that end in -dev (dash dev). You can do this process for all the errors you get until you don't get any. If aptitude doesn't come up with what you need, put the error into Google. That will almost certainly tell you what to do.
[11:02] <zus> and then do this for the other folder as well the ktorrent4?
[11:02] <e_t_> zus: Yes.
[11:03] <zus> e_t_,  thank you very much for getting me this far
[11:03] <SkEmO> grrr
[11:04] <e_t_> zus: Well, I've got to go for now. It's 3 in the morning and I need to sleep.
[11:04]  * SkEmO takes a gun and shoots his laptop
[11:04]  * SkEmO slaps LjL
[11:04] <SkEmO> ;D
[11:04] <zus> e_t_, i hear you its 6 am here!
[11:04] <LjL> SkEmO :)
[11:04] <SkEmO> 5am here!!
[11:05] <LjL> SkEmO: since when do you use kubuntu?
[11:05] <SkEmO> LjL buongirono principessa :D
[11:05] <SkEmO> LjL since before it died on me D:
[11:05] <SkEmO> it killed me laptop!!
[11:05] <LjL> well your laptop probably deserved to die ;(
[11:05] <SkEmO> everything is unmounted now except /dev/sda1
[11:06] <SkEmO> meanie!
[11:06] <zus> i hate to quit in the middle but i NEED to go as well....
[11:07] <zus> SkEmO,  ya can shoot me too lol later guys
[11:07] <SkEmO> lol
[11:07] <SkEmO> baii zus
[11:07] <SkEmO> o/
[11:07] <zus> SkEmO, more like bbl  :)
[11:08] <SkEmO> orly?
[11:08] <SkEmO> showertiem?
[11:09] <LjL> SkEmO: i checked the logs... you've upgraded to lucid but the upgrade failed and your filesystem doesn't mount?
[11:10] <SkEmO> yes
[11:10] <LjL> SkEmO: can you reach a root shell now?
[11:10] <SkEmO> im at it
[11:10] <SkEmO> but as root@(none):~#
[11:10] <SkEmO> D:
[11:10] <LjL> SkEmO: is this a recovery shell?
[11:11] <SkEmO> yes
[11:11] <LjL> SkEmO: do you have internet from it?
[11:11] <SkEmO> hmm i dont know
[11:11] <SkEmO> i guess so
[11:11] <SkEmO> its plugged
[11:11] <LjL> SkEmO: try "ping www.google.com" to check
[11:12] <SkEmO> ping: unknown host www.google.com
[11:13] <LjL> SkEmO: hm that's not too good. unfortunately with current Ubuntu versions, if NetworkManager doesn't start, you don't get a connection
[11:13] <LjL> SkEmO: now i'm shooting in the dark here, but try "apt-get -f install" to fix any broken packages you might have, see what the output is like
[11:13] <SkEmO> LjL i think this never made it to lucid, not that i think off
[11:14] <LjL> eh, NetworkManager has been around for a few releases though, not just Lucid
[11:14] <SkEmO> w: not using locking for read only sth
[11:14] <SkEmO> E unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[11:14] <SkEmO> e: package lists or status file coult not be located
[11:14] <SkEmO> wait, not locvated, parsed
[11:14] <LjL> SkEmO: hmm so there's still a problem with (un)mounted filesystems. what does the output of "mount | grep sd" look like?
[11:15] <SkEmO> it says /dev/sda1 on /type ext 3 (rw, relatime, erros= remount
[11:16] <LjL> oh, so that's mounted... but it can't find /var/cache/apt? that's not too good
[11:16] <LjL> try an "ls /var" to see if the /var directory exists
[11:17] <SkEmO> backups cache crash lib local lock log mail
[11:17] <SkEmO> crach and lock are highlighted
[11:18] <LjL> SkEmO: what about "ls /var/cache/apt" (just tell me if it gives an error or show files)
[11:18] <SkEmO> archives pkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin
[11:19] <LjL> SkEmO: anyway, would reinstalling be an option? do you have files you need to recover? because this isn't looking *too* good really
[11:19] <LjL> it can probably be fixed, like everything, but it's going to be a headache
[11:19] <SkEmO> well i've been trying to reinstall
[11:19] <SkEmO> but the installation freeze
[11:19] <SkEmO> that when the cd works >.>
[11:20] <LjL> SkEmO: do you have a fast internet connection? if so, you should probably get the Minimal CD, which has a text-mode installer and downloads everything from the internet (so it doesn't have to read from the CD)
[11:20] <SkEmO> i got 4mb connection now
[11:21] <SkEmO> im gonna go buy cd's today
[11:21] <SkEmO> i ran outta them
[11:21] <LjL> SkEmO: did you burn the CD you used at the slowest possible speed? sometimes CDs that are burned too fast don't work well
[11:22] <SkEmO> i did with the last one
[11:22] <SkEmO> but still doesent read it
[11:22] <SkEmO> i burnt it at 6x
[11:22] <SkEmO> IMO its the dvd drive
[11:23] <LjL> SkEmO: hmm. well, let's go on looking at your recovery shell anyway. see if you can get an internet connection... do "nano /etc/network/interfaces", and tell me if there's something saying stuff similar to "iface eth0 inet dhcp" (might not be eth0)
[11:24] <SkEmO> sec, lemme get there again, i rebooted
[11:24] <SkEmO> hmm
[11:24] <SkEmO> wait before the grub screen there there ethernet controller working
[11:25] <LjL> eh but that's just the BIOS saying that
[11:34] <SkEmO> ok LjL
[11:34] <SkEmO> i get a new scren
[11:34] <SkEmO> and it says
[11:34] <SkEmO> auto lo
[11:34] <FloodBotK2> SkEmO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <SkEmO> iface lo inet loopback
[11:37] <LjL> SkEmO: ok, try this:   echo "iface eth0 inet dhcp" >>/etc/network/interfaces
[11:38] <LjL> (be careful, you need *two* >> signs there, otherwise you'll delete the file)
[11:38] <SkEmO> oh god
[11:38] <SkEmO> so lemme exit this then
[11:38] <LjL> SkEmO: oh, i made you do nano... you can just add that line in nano if you prefer
[11:38] <SkEmO> wait on shell LjL?
[11:38] <LjL> SkEmO: just add the line     iface eth0 inet dhcp     in nano
[11:39] <LjL> then ctrl+x to save and exit
[11:40] <satish> firefox is too slow on kubuntu!  why is that so
[11:40] <SkEmO> LjL do i need the "?
[11:40] <LjL> SkEmO: no
[11:40] <SkEmO> hmm
[11:41] <SkEmO> i get an error writing on /etc/network/interfaces
[11:41] <LjL> oh crap
[11:41] <LjL> the filesystem really isn't mounted for writing then, despite what "mount" says
[11:41] <LjL> SkEmO: exit nano, tell it to not save, then do "mount /dev/sda1 -o remount,rw"
[11:42] <LjL> SkEmO: then tell me if "touch /test" gives you any error
[11:42] <SkEmO> [668.548828] EXT FS on sda1, internal journal
[11:43] <satish> can anybody tell me why firefox and dolphin are very slow and use almost 100% of cpu
[11:43] <LjL> i wouldn't know satish
[11:44] <satish> is there any bug?
[11:44] <SkEmO> LjL nope, no errors
[11:44] <LjL> SkEmO: ok, then try again this:   echo "iface eth0 inet dhcp" >>/etc/network/interfaces
[11:44] <satish> should i update
[11:45] <SkEmO> iface: command not found
[11:45] <LjL> SkEmO: no this time type the whole thing, including echo, "" and everything
[11:46] <SkEmO> oh lol ok
[11:47] <SkEmO> ok
[11:47] <SkEmO> done
[11:47] <SkEmO> gives me no errors
[11:47] <LjL> SkEmO: ok, now try "ifup eth0"
[11:47] <SkEmO> fail
[11:48] <LjL> :|
[11:48] <LjL> fail like what
[11:48] <SkEmO> ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate/....
[11:48] <LjL> pfff
[11:48] <LjL> SkEmO: try "ifconfig eth0 up"
[11:49] <SkEmO> eth0: error while getting interface flags
[11:49] <SkEmO> no such destination
[11:49] <SkEmO> wtf
[11:49] <LjL> SkEmO: is yours an ethernet card, or wireless?
[11:49] <SkEmO> ethernet
[11:49] <LjL> you said plugged in so i assumed wired
[11:49] <SkEmO> yep
[11:50] <SkEmO> cos wifi cant be enable manually
[11:50] <SkEmO> i get a weird msg
[11:50] <LjL> yeah wifi is quite certainly a mess to enable from console
[11:50] <LjL> i use ethernet myself so i'm not very familiar with it either
[11:50] <LjL> try "ifconfig -a", see if eth0 shows up there
[11:59] <SkEmO> LjL
[11:59] <SkEmO> yes it shows
[11:59] <SkEmO> eth0 link encap: ethernet etc etc etc
[12:00] <LjL> SkEmO: eh, i don't think it's really connected, but try "ping 208.69.32.230" anyway to check (that's google's IP)
[12:01] <judgen> How do i get a soundblaster pci128 to work with ubuntu?
[12:01] <SkEmO> lol
[12:01] <judgen> kubuntu*
[12:01] <SkEmO> connect: network is unreachable
[12:02] <LjL> judgen: should work by default in theory...
[12:02] <SkEmO> waahh
[12:02] <LjL> SkEmO: ok, nevermind the network, try once more "apt-get -f install" in case we actually managed to mount the filesystem read/write this time
[12:02] <SkEmO> i did the apt-get upgrade and it works >.>
[12:02] <SkEmO> its nuts!
[12:02] <LjL> SkEmO: yeah, it's because we remounted the filesystem rw
[12:03] <judgen> does ont show up in lspci sadly
[12:03] <judgen> not*
[12:03] <SkEmO> ;o
[12:03] <LjL> SkEmO: i hope the filesystem is not broken though, because if it is, apt-get upgrade may mess it up even more
[12:03] <SkEmO> the install works
[12:03] <SkEmO> its removing a few packages and installing enw ones
[12:03] <SkEmO> new*
[12:04] <LjL> judgen: not even in lspci? that's weird, it should show up, even if there is no driver for it. try "sudo lshw -C sound" and see if it shows there
[12:04] <LjL> SkEmO: but you said you are in the *install*? the graphical install?
[12:04] <SkEmO> no i mean the apt-get -f install
[12:05] <SkEmO> k, all done LjL
[12:05] <LjL> SkEmO: ah right. so how many packages did it upgrade, roughly?
[12:05] <SkEmO> psh like 50
[12:05] <judgen> LjL that command only shows PCI (Sysfs) and SCSI
[12:07] <LjL> SkEmO: ok well try "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", although i doubt it will work without an internet connection
[12:07] <LjL> but if you're lucky it won't need to fetch any new packages
[12:08] <SkEmO> grr
[12:08] <SkEmO> ubable to fetch some archives
[12:08] <SkEmO> unable*
[12:08] <LjL> :|
[12:09] <LjL> SkEmO: let's try the network again... do you know what your IP address is usually?
[12:09] <LjL> i mean to the router
[12:09] <SkEmO> yes
[12:09] <satish_> does gyachi supports chat rooms
[12:09] <LjL> SkEmO: do "ifconfig eth0 that-ip-address"
[12:10] <LjL> SkEmO: if it gives an error, do "ifdown eth0 ; ifconfig eth0 down" and then try again
[12:10] <SkEmO> [2339.203149] r8169: eth0: link up
[12:10] <judgen> darn this sb128... this is futile. I broke my realtek HDA and im desperate for some tunes.
[12:11] <SkEmO> no errors LjL
[12:11] <SkEmO> yay! its enabled on the router!!
[12:11] <SkEmO> i can see it
[12:11] <satish_> hi friends can anyone tellme if does gyachi supports chat rooms
[12:11] <LjL> SkEmO: oh hey, that sounds promising. try now "route add default gw the-IP-address-of-your-router"
[12:12] <LjL> SkEmO: then again "ping 208.69.32.230" to see if google works
[12:12] <SkEmO> lol
[12:12] <SkEmO> network unreachable xD
[12:12] <LjL> but why
[12:13] <SkEmO> i dont know
[12:13] <LjL> SkEmO: please do "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and confirm that the last line reads "iface eth0 inet dhcp", and that there's no other line with "eth0" in it
[12:13] <SkEmO> ok
[12:13] <SkEmO> done
[12:14] <SkEmO> it works now LjL
[12:14] <LjL> oh wow
[12:14] <SkEmO> needed to do the route add default gw the-IP-address-of-your-router"
[12:14] <SkEmO> now it pings google
[12:14] <SkEmO> :D
[12:14] <SkEmO> now the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:14] <LjL> SkEmO: now you need to add a valid DNS. do:  echo nameserver 212.245.255.2 >>/etc/resolv.conf
[12:15] <LjL> (212.245.255.2 is an italian DNS server, but it should work for you too)
[12:15] <LjL> SkEmO: after that yes, try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:16] <SkEmO> omg
[12:16] <SkEmO> after the ping i lost the shell!!
[12:16] <SkEmO> its just the cursos blinking
[12:16] <SkEmO> damn desktop typing!!
[12:17] <LjL> eh, hit ctrl+c
[12:18] <SkEmO> yay
[12:18] <SkEmO> it works!
[12:18] <SkEmO> oh wait
[12:19] <SkEmO> cant establish connection
[12:19] <SkEmO> damnit!
[12:19] <LjL> did you see what mirror it was trying to contact?
[12:19] <LjL> like us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <SkEmO> yes
[12:19] <SkEmO> mx.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <LjL> try "ping mx.archive.ubuntu.com" then
[12:20] <SkEmO> no ping
[12:20] <SkEmO> unknown host
[12:20] <SkEmO> wtf..
[12:20] <LjL> SkEmO: does it at least resolve it? i.e. tell you that it's 91.189.92.166
[12:20] <LjL> SkEmO: hmm "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and see if the nameserver i gave you is still there
[12:20] <SkEmO> nope
[12:21] <SkEmO> no such file or directory
[12:21] <LjL> no such - what
[12:21] <LjL> SkEmO: ok i have no idea why that happened, but do again:  echo nameserver 212.245.255.2 >>/etc/resolv.conf
[12:21] <SkEmO> bash_ cat/etc/resolv.conf : no such dile or dir
[12:22] <LjL> then try again, either the ping or the apt-get
[12:22] <SkEmO> ok
[12:23] <SkEmO> does "nameserver" goes like that or needst o be teplaced to telecommitalia or sth?
[12:23] <SkEmO> im pinging but no ping
[12:23] <LjL> SkEmO: no, it's just "nameserver"
[12:23] <LjL> SkEmO: does it resolve it though?
[12:23] <LjL> resolve the name
[12:24] <SkEmO> nope, it doesent
[12:24] <SkEmO> it just says ping: unknown host mx.archive.ubuntu-com
[12:24] <SkEmO> .com*
[12:25] <LjL> SkEmO: ok, maybe that server doesn't work for you for some reason... but, your router should be able to act as a DNS server, so let's try that
[12:25] <LjL> SkEmO: echo nameserver the-IP-of-your-router >/etc/resolv.conf
[12:25] <LjL> this time only one ">"
[12:25] <SkEmO> ok
[12:26] <LjL> then ping again
[12:26] <SkEmO> fail
[12:26] <SkEmO> same thing
[12:27] <SkEmO> it just says ping: unknown host mx.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <Torch> LjL: default route?
[12:27] <LjL> Torch: hmm?
[12:27] <Torch> LjL: did you have him add a default route?
[12:27]  * Torch only skimmed the backlog.
[12:27] <LjL> Torch: yes
[12:27] <Torch> LjL:  ah, good. ;-)
[12:27] <jonah1980> hey guys, i've found there's a touchpad section in kde settings, but all options are greyed out. i want to turn the tapping off on my laptop touchpad, how can i get these settings to be enabled please??
[12:27] <LjL> Torch: before that, any ping would give "network unreachable", now it seems to work with IPs
[12:28] <LjL> SkEmO: try "ping 91.189.88.30", if that works, we'll try using that as a mirror (it's the IP of mx.archive.ubuntu.com)
[12:28] <SkEmO> that works
[12:29] <SkEmO> how do i use it as mirror?
[12:29] <SkEmO> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop IP?
[12:29] <LjL> SkEmO: ok try this then, be careful to type it all correctly:    sed -ibackup 's/mx.archive.ubuntu.com/91.189.88.30/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <LjL> then "sudo apt-get update"
[12:30] <oxymoron> Two bugs I want to fix, Kopete doesnt login after typed Kwallet password and still asks me for password for ALL my accounts ... and then Konversation (Current using) on startup cannot connect to host, so I have to restart it every single time to connect properly xD
[12:30] <LjL> eh, without the sudo
[12:31] <SkEmO> after g' thers a space before the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:31] <LjL> SkEmO: yes
[12:32] <SkEmO> ok
[12:32] <SkEmO> done
[12:32] <oxymoron> How do I solve them?
[12:32] <LjL> if "apt-get update" works, then the install should work too
[12:32] <SkEmO> it does
[12:32] <SkEmO> well
[12:32] <SkEmO> sorta its connecting
[12:33] <LjL> eh, it should take very little time to connect :|
[12:33] <SkEmO> then it fails
[12:33] <SkEmO> err http://seurity.ubuntu.com lalalala
[12:33] <Torch> oxymoron: for konversation, try #konversation. sho, the dev, is usually there.
[12:33] <LjL> SkEmO: oh right, security
[12:34] <LjL> SkEmO: do "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out security and any other lines that don't have 91.189.88.30
[12:34] <LjL> (comment out = add a # at the beginning)
[12:34] <SkEmO> wait cos its retrying
[12:35] <LjL> oxymoron: i don't have that problem with Konversation in Lucid
[12:35] <oxymoron> Torch: Not sure its Konversation specific, actually I think QT or KDE but yeah I try there.
[12:35] <LjL> Kopete i dunno, i don't use it
[12:35] <Torch> oxymoron: with startup you mean on login
[12:36] <oxymoron> LjL: I didnt use to have either, but when updating to 4.4.3 it became that way ...
[12:36] <oxymoron> Torch: Yes, when startup KDE and it starts from last time.
[12:36] <LjL> ah, i'm on kde 4.4.2
[12:37] <oxymoron> LjL: I was as well, until Torch recomennded me to test 4.4.3 to see if Kopete would work then, but it wasnt xD
[12:37] <oxymoron> Is it possible to rollback?
[12:38] <Torch> oxymoron: yes, but i wouldn't recommend it.
[12:38] <SkEmO> ok done
[12:38] <SkEmO> some have ##
[12:38] <Torch> oxymoron: KDE apps can (and regularly do) convert settings on update. those settings would break when going back.
[12:38] <SkEmO> but those i didnt touched
[12:38]  * oxymoron thinks theres a problem when application starts up from last session in KDE.
[12:39] <SkEmO> ok file saved
[12:39] <oxymoron> Torch: They usually break up settings on update as well, thats why you cant upgrade from Karmic to Lucid for instance flawless.
[12:39] <LjL> SkEmO: ok, try apt-get update again
[12:39] <Torch> oxymoron: actually they don't.
[12:39] <oxymoron> Or some people can, but most people got settings incompability somewhere.
[12:39] <SkEmO> gah! it wont connect!
[12:39] <oxymoron> Torch: It does for me since 7.04
[12:40] <Torch> oxymoron: make a difference between KDE and kubuntu please.
[12:40] <Torch> oxymoron: kubuntu updates never work.
[12:40] <LjL> SkEmO: :| what to? the IP?
[12:40] <Torch> oxymoron: kde updates usually do. it's the exception there are problems.
[12:40] <oxymoron> Torch: Kubuntu uses KDE ... so if KDE doesnt work, Kubuntu doesnt either :P
[12:40] <SkEmO> well its still trying
[12:40] <SkEmO> but i think its cos its says karmic instead of hmm whatever is 9.04
[12:41] <Mamarok> SkEmO: Jaunty
[12:41] <SkEmO> yes that, thanks Mamarok
[12:41] <SkEmO> LjL failed to fetch files
[12:42] <oxymoron> Mamarok: Btw I am curious, why isnt Maverick alpha news released on any *buntu website?
[12:42] <Mamarok> oxymoron: because it's too new?
[12:43] <LjL> SkEmO: did it only ever try to connect to the IP, there weren't any hostnames shown?
[12:43] <Mamarok> oxymoron: it is on the relevant wiki pages for developers
[12:44] <oxymoron> Mamarok: All other alphas before, even alpha 1 have been released, now its golden silence everywhere.
[12:44] <Mamarok> oxymoron: it's not out yet, only a freeze has been anounced yesterday
[12:44] <SkEmO> err http://91.189.88.90 karmic release.gpg could not connect to 91.189.88.30:80 (91.189.88.30)
[12:45] <LjL> grr but why
[12:45] <Mamarok> oxymoron: subscribe to the Ubuntu-deve-announce mailing list and you will get noticed. Mind you, we do no support for Maverick, so please don't sak in here
[12:45] <LjL> if it pings, why doesn't it connect
[12:45] <Mamarok> devel*
[12:45] <SkEmO> w: failed to fetch http://91.189.88.30/ubuntu/dists/karmic
[12:45] <Mamarok> ask*
[12:45] <SkEmO> im gonna ping it again
[12:45] <Mamarok> SkEmO: why not change the mirror?
[12:46] <SkEmO> to what?
[12:46] <LjL> Mamarok: because the mirror itself is up...
[12:46] <LjL> Mamarok: his DNS isn't working, and probably something else too
[12:46] <Mamarok> LjL: still, it can be out of sync
[12:47] <SkEmO> ok i did the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:48] <SkEmO> and it says already the newest version
[12:48] <SkEmO> the following packages were automaticalle installed
[12:48] <oxymoron> Mamarok: I wont use Maverick this early, not so many improvements yet ... But it seems awesome with KDE 4.5, QT 4.7 and new default web browser reconq :) To shame no Akonadi yet, but hopefully they force the worker to work faster so they maybe make it until october.
[12:48] <SkEmO> use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them
[12:48] <Mamarok> oxymoron: just don't ask Maverick question in here, that's all I ask you
[12:49] <LjL> SkEmO: eh but if the "apt-get update" isn't working, i wouldn't trust it too much about saying it's the latest version
[12:49] <Mamarok> there is #ubuntu+1 for that
[12:49] <SkEmO> lol indeed cos its not
[12:51] <oxymoron> Mamarok: It wasnt any questions above, just assumptions
[12:52] <LjL> SkEmO: see if this works, "wget http://91.189.88.45/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release"
[12:54] <SkEmO> it says connecting to ip
[12:56] <LjL> but doesn't?
[12:56] <SkEmO> ionno its just there
[12:57] <SkEmO> fail!
[12:57] <LjL> it's not working, or it'd have connected already
[12:57] <SkEmO> retrying
[12:57] <LjL> i don't know. i really have no idea why it would ping, but not connect
[12:57] <LjL> asking somewhere else if anyone has ideas
[12:58] <SkEmO> :D thanks
[12:58] <SkEmO> im asking too
[12:59] <SkEmO> LjL someone said "is the port open?" @,@
[13:00] <SkEmO> hmm connection timed out now
[13:00] <LjL> SkEmO: yeah that's the first thing they suggested to me, too, but very unlikely to be the problem. someone else has told me the routing might be incorrect, on the other hand, which sounds more like it
[13:01] <LjL> SkEmO: so try "tracepath 91.189.88.45" (or if that doesn't work, "traceroute 91.189.88.45") and see if it looks like it's getting out of your local network
[13:02] <SkEmO> on tracepad
[13:02] <SkEmO> route fail
[13:03] <SkEmO> resume pmtu 65535
[13:03] <SkEmO> on t tracerout
[13:03] <SkEmO> the program traceroute can eb found in the following
[13:03] <SkEmO> *tracerout
[13:03] <SkEmO> *tracerout-nanog
[13:03] <LjL> ok, it's because traceroute is not installed
[13:03] <LjL> it doesn't matter
[13:04] <SkEmO> try: aptget install <selected package>
[13:04] <LjL> do "route" and tell me what it says, roughly
[13:04] <LjL> it should have as "default gateway" your router's address
[13:04] <SkEmO> kernet ip routing table
[13:04] <SkEmO> destination gateway genmask flags
[13:05] <SkEmO> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 u
[13:05] <SkEmO> default ip 0.0.0.0 u
[13:05] <SkEmO> ug*
[13:05] <LjL> "ip" there is which ip, your router's, or your computer's?
[13:05] <SkEmO> my routers
[13:06] <LjL> does it have "eth0" in the last column?
[13:06] <SkEmO> damn i cant see screen is too small
[13:06] <SkEmO> lemme attach the tv to it
[13:07] <LjL> SkEmO: do "route | more" if the screen is too small to show the whole thing
[13:07] <SkEmO> get the same results
[13:08] <LjL> SkEmO: so no "eth0" in the last column? the columns i have are:   Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[13:08] <LjL> yours stop at Flags?
[13:08] <LjL> this would be much easier if we could use a pastebin... but that needs an internet connection in the first place ;(
[13:09] <|vinxs|> salve a tutti
[13:09] <LjL> !it
[13:10] <|vinxs|> ubottu va bene anche per kubuntu lì? ho un problemino
[13:10] <|vinxs|> lol
[13:10] <SkEmO> hehe yea
[13:10] <SkEmO> it stops at flags
[13:10] <|vinxs|> :)
[13:10] <LjL> |vinxs|: sì, è supportata anche Kubuntu su #ubuntu-it
[13:11] <|vinxs|> thanks LjL
[13:11] <LjL> you're welcome
[13:11] <LjL> SkEmO: does "ifconfig" (without -a this time) show eth0?
[13:11] <SkEmO> yes, it does
[13:11] <LjL> SkEmO: is an IP address shown?
[13:12] <SkEmO> inet addr and bcast
[13:15] <SkEmO> *sigh*
[13:16] <LjL> SkEmO: i'm waiting for someone to answer me, they probably know better about these routing issues
[13:17] <SkEmO> :) ok
[13:18] <oxymoron> Torch: May you ask things about Rekonq in here? Its in official sources?
[13:18] <Torch> oxymoron: i don't know, i'm a KDE guy, not a kubuntu guy ;-)
[13:18] <LjL> oxymoron: you can ask here, sure
[13:18] <LjL> not that i could answer them or that anyone else seems to be around, but you can ask :P
[13:19] <Torch> oxymoron: i think there's #rekonq. dunno how frequented that channel is though.
[13:21] <oxymoron> I wonder, the adress bar in rekonq is REALLY SMALL and the text is REALLY tiny, how to change that?
[13:21] <oxymoron> Its the ONLY thing that annoys me, and one of the most important things.
[13:21] <LjL> SkEmO: i dunno, the other person isn't answering. you could also try rebooting, since it's possible that apt-get -f install fixed stuff and might let you have a more acceptable boot... but we'll lose the network settings we've managed to set up so far
[13:22] <SkEmO> D:
[13:23] <SkEmO> LjL i dont think rebooting works cos im not sure it mounted
[13:23] <SkEmO> cos if i do mountall i get
[13:24] <SkEmO> mountall: root filesystem isn't mounted
[13:25] <LjL> SkEmO: that's so weird. it should be mounted now though, or we wouldn't have been able to change the files we changed
[13:26] <SkEmO> indeed
[13:26] <SkEmO> unless... it was temp
[13:26] <LjL> but this is not the live cd is it?
[13:26] <SkEmO> nope
[13:28] <oxymoron> ANybody uses Rekonq?
[13:29] <SpaceMan> oxymoron: did the #rekonq chan help?
[13:30] <gt_> buenos dias alguien me puede ayudar acargar una foto al facebook que no se como ???
[13:30] <SkEmO> o_O
[13:31] <LjL> !es | gt_
[13:31] <SkEmO> LjL yeah but he wants to upload a pic on facebook xD
[13:31] <LjL> yeah well
[13:31] <LjL> -es is a mess of a channel anyway, they probably won't notice what he's asking is offtopic :P
[13:32] <SkEmO> lol
[13:32] <SkEmO> i joined xD
[13:33] <SkEmO> there should be a #facebook
[13:33] <SkEmO> xD
[13:37] <oxymoron> SpaceMan: Everyone seems idle in there unfortunatly
[13:39] <SpaceMan> I did try "sudo apt-get install rekonq" but it wanted to install 271MB so I gave up
[13:39] <Guest91048> does the ubuntu gnome archives work for kubuntu or will it need dependencies?
[13:40] <SpaceMan> most of the 271MB was KDE4, I'm still using KDE3
[13:40] <moetunes> Guest91048: all ubuntus use the same repos
[13:40] <Avasz> moetunes, oh.. okez. thank.
[13:40] <moetunes> np :]
[13:41] <Avasz> whihc will be better? installing kubuntu-desktop in my gnome or installing kubuntu erasing my current os?
[13:42] <moetunes> both will work fine - it comes down to choice
[13:42] <Avasz> oh..ok..
[13:44] <SkEmO> LjL im gonna reboot it
[13:44] <SkEmO> :S
[13:45] <SkEmO> is there a command to do it or just ctrl+alt+del?
[13:45] <LjL> SkEmO: yeah give it a try. "reboot" is the command
[13:45] <SkEmO> ok
[13:48] <SkEmO> oh god
[13:49] <LjL> hmm?
[13:49] <SkEmO> it reboots and i get the kubuntu loading
[13:49] <SkEmO> but then i get
[13:49] <SkEmO> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[13:49] <LjL> that's fine, it's checking your disk, which is probably a good idea after all the mess...
[13:49] <SkEmO> init: network interface (lo) pre-start ptocess (450)
[13:50] <SkEmO> init: network interface (lo) post-start process (457)
[13:50] <SkEmO> and the cursos blinking after that
[13:50] <LjL> SkEmO: tried hitting ctrl+c?
[13:51] <SkEmO> yes
[13:51] <SkEmO> but only shows ^C
[13:52] <LjL> SkEmO: eh well, i guess you're going to have to boot into recovery mode again after all
[13:52] <SkEmO> nooooooo
[13:52] <SkEmO> :'(
[13:52] <LjL> SkEmO: actually
[13:52] <LjL> SkEmO: try first ctrl+alt+f2, if by any chance there's a terminal there
[13:53] <SkEmO> rebooted, sec
[13:55] <SkEmO> hmm ok
[13:55] <SkEmO> now it doesent show the lo
[13:56] <SkEmO> k did the ctrl+alt+f2
[13:56] <SkEmO> but just shows a black screen
[13:57] <LjL> then recovery mode it is skemo
[13:57] <LjL> though i wouldn't know what to do even in recovery mode if we don't get to understand what's wrong with the connection
[13:58] <SkEmO> whats "PXE-ROM"?
[13:58] <SkEmO> oh god i have 3 kernels now
[14:00] <LjL> hah
[14:00] <SkEmO> ok keeps saying this
[14:00] <LjL> i think it's something in your BIOS, not sure
[14:00] <SkEmO> mountall: /proc: unable to mount
[14:01] <SkEmO> mountall:/proc/self/mountinfo: no such file or directory
[14:01] <SkEmO> mountall: root filesystem isnt mounted
[14:01] <SkEmO> init: mountall main process terminated with general error
[14:01] <LjL> ugh
[14:02] <moetunes> tried with an earlier kernel?
[14:03] <SkEmO> i have the 2.16.17, 2.16.18 and 2.16.19
[14:03] <moetunes> k
[14:05] <LjL> SkEmO: if you can't boot into recovery mode in any way, edit your kernel line (hit "e" on GRUB) and add "init=/bin/sh" to it
[14:07] <SkEmO> wait im enabling the internet
[14:08] <gt_> cvbn
[14:08] <gt_> hola
[14:09] <gt_> cubuntu es
[14:09] <gt_> ayudddddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:09] <moetunes> !es
[14:10] <gt_> auxilioooooooooooooo
[14:10] <yamilet> ayuda porfe
[14:10] <moetunes> yamilet: give it up pls
[14:11] <LjL> yamilet, este canal 1) es en inglés 2) es acerca de Ubuntu, no de Facebook
[14:11] <yamilet> ayuda para cargar unas fotos a mi face alguien que me ayude
[14:11] <moetunes> yamilet: /j #facebook
[14:12] <SkEmO> isnt it harder to get here than to upload a pic?
[14:14] <LjL> SkEmO, i must reboot and then leave now, i will be back in some three hours or so
[14:14] <SkEmO> kk LjL, grazie per tutto :D
[14:14] <SkEmO> i will go too, be back on the afternoon
[14:14] <SkEmO> ciao!!
[14:14] <LjL> prego ;) sorry i couldn't get it fixed
[14:14] <LjL> ciao
[14:15] <SkEmO> you helped a lot! thanks :D
[14:43] <Kash-7> hi everybody ..
[14:43] <Kash-7> can somebody giveme a little help about how to configure microphone in kubuntu ?
[14:58] <Kash-7> problem solved
[15:02] <silbo__> can you solve my problem xD
[15:02] <silbo__> how could i compare the bytes 010 and 10
[15:03] <tsimpson> what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:04] <silbo__> do you know huffmann encoding?
[15:04] <silbo__> the one with the binary tree
[15:05] <silbo__> i need to make bytes 010 and 10 so that they have different values
[15:06] <tsimpson> in what language?
[15:06] <silbo__> java
[15:07] <tsimpson> you should ask in ##java, but you need to register your nick to join there
[15:07] <tsimpson> !register
[15:08] <tsimpson> Hazamonzo: please pick a nick and stick to it
[15:09] <Hazamonzo> tsimpson: Sorry buddy. Had to change nicks to do some channel admin. Then made a mistake changing my nick back :)
[15:09] <tsimpson> Hazamonzo: ok :)
[15:16] <zhaolegend> hello!
[15:18] <Kirill0v> hi
[15:19] <zhaolegend> many people don't talk
[15:20] <zhaolegend> how long have you used kubuntu?
[15:20] <Kirill0v> 1 week :D
[15:20] <zhaolegend> not long. I use ubuntu more often.
[15:22] <Kirill0v> i used wifiway & ubuntu 8
[15:22] <zhaolegend> ubuntu 8.04?
[15:23] <zhaolegend> have you tried 10.04?
[15:23] <Kirill0v> now i'm running kubuntu 10.04
[15:23] <Kirill0v> Epic win
[15:23] <Kirill0v> :D
[15:25] <zhaolegend> i never used Epic.
[15:25] <Kirill0v> i want to use windows only at work
[15:25] <zhaolegend> give a short introduction?
[15:26] <zhaolegend> you can do it in Linux too
[15:26] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[15:27] <Kirill0v> indesign works fine in wine?
[15:29] <zhaolegend> in vitual box or vmware
[15:29] <zhaolegend> wine is not working well
[15:29] <Kirill0v> mmm
[15:30] <zhaolegend> time to go. bye
[15:31] <Kirill0v> bye~ and thanks
[15:38] <84XAAEUI2> Please log in before attempting to verify your registration.
[15:38] <84XAAEUI2> this is silbo again
[15:39] <84XAAEUI2> where do i have to log in?
[15:50] <Razion> Anyone around who has any idea how to deal with audio conflicts?
[15:50] <Razion> Whatever program I open first upon logging in locks my sound to  that program.
[15:51] <Razion> The only exception being that phonon-based applications can run simultaneously (dragon player/amarok).
[15:55] <Razion> Anyone around who has any idea how to deal with audio conflicts?
[15:56] <Razion> Whatever program I open first upon logging in locks my sound to  that program.
[15:56] <Razion> The only exception being that phonon-based applications can run simultaneously (dragon player/amarok).
[15:56] <XandeRecife> bom dia
[15:57] <Tm_T> Razion: pulseaudio might help
[15:57] <Razion> Tm_T: It comes with Kubuntu 10.04. I bloody removed it because I was having the same problem.
[15:58] <Tm_T> Razion: if your phonon & all other apps uses pulseaudio, it should not block anything
[15:58] <Tm_T> Razion: other option is to make sure your system uses some other software mixer
[15:58] <Razion> Tm_T: The problem is that not all apps use pulseaudio...My firefox sure doesn't. And other programs that did conflicted, as well.
[15:59] <Razion> Tm_T: Recommended mixers besides pulseaudio?
[15:59] <Tm_T> basic alsa's plug:dmix
[15:59] <Razion> Tm_T: Which is kmix on Kubuntu, yes?
[15:59] <Tm_T> Razion: no, totally different thing
[16:00] <Razion> Tm_T: I have alsa, but don't seem to have dmix. What gives?
[16:00] <Tm_T> Razion: dmix is not separate program, it's plugin that is built in to alsa, so to speak
[16:01] <Razion> Tm_T: Alright. So how do I access it?
[16:02] <geof270> wireless help w 9.04
[16:02] <Tm_T> Razion: old sources, no idea if these things are still valid: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix && http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Setting_up_Dmix_for_ALSA
[16:02]  * Tm_T loves proper hardware mixers
[16:03] <Tm_T> I gotta go for awhile
[16:03] <Razion> Alright. Thanks.
[16:05] <project_86> I need help getting voice chat to work on XMPP/Gtalk.
[16:21] <Kirill0v> afk
[16:28] <Razion> Okay. This is getting ridiculous. Fresh install of 10.04. Audio doesn't work for more than one program at a time. Uninstalled pulseaudio. Same problem running off just alsa. Any ideas?
[16:35] <Dahkmarv> nabend an alle
[16:36] <moetunes> !de
[16:36] <Pici> !de | Dahkmarv
[16:37] <apparle> guys if I open a pdf in okular which has images, then okular doesn't anti alias the pictures, is there any setting for this?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> Razion, check your alsamixer in the konsole , the pcm ctrl and others are either mured or turned off...i know this is stating the obvious but it must be mentioned
[16:41] <Razion> Bluekaj: Turns out, I'm actually getting all my sound...But the ones that I thought were "locked" were coming out of the damn soundcard instead of the USB headset.
[16:41] <Razion> Bluekaj: Any clue how to get them all where they need to be?
[16:42] <Dahkmarv> Hey everyone, I'm german but now trying englisch:P I've got one problem/question. My musicdatabase is larger then 100.000 tracks. There isn't a program which is able to manage all the tracks, they crash. The question is, is there any programm, i could use only to manage my music, without playing/burning/converting/... Only search the music and the prog tells me the path to the found tracks?
[16:42] <Razion> Blueskaj: Mistyped your name. But those two messages are for you, clearly. ^_^
[16:42] <adilalpman> hi all
[16:42] <adilalpman> i have a problem about my soundcard on my kubuntu 10.04 till long times
[16:42] <adilalpman> can anybody help me
[16:43] <Razion> Dahkmarv: Tried Amarok?
[16:43] <Dahkmarv> yes, amarok/rythmbox/banshee/aqualung/ario all are crashing^^
[16:44] <adilalpman> hi
[16:44] <Dahkmarv> or the search spend more then 50seconds per trac
[16:44] <Dahkmarv> *track
[16:44] <adilalpman> i have a problem about my soundcard on kubuntu 10.04 till days
[16:44] <adilalpman> but i still cant resolve it
[16:44] <adilalpman> can anybody help me
[16:44] <Razion> GMPC, perhaps?
[16:44] <Dahkmarv> never heart, I'll try
[16:45] <Dahkmarv> thanks;)
[16:45] <adilalpman> my problem is written this address >> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-users/2010-05/msg02952.html
[16:45] <Razion> Kein problem. ;]
[16:45] <adilalpman> could u pls check it?
[16:45] <Dahkmarv> does the gnome programm GMPC work with KDE?
[16:46] <Razion> Okay, so...I have sound coming from multiple outputs for no good reason. Anyone have any ideas? Need to get it all on the USB headset.
[16:46] <Razion> Dahkmarv: Programs generally work regardless of what X environment they're based off of,.
[16:46] <Razion> Dahkmarv: So...Ja, sicher. xD
[16:46] <Dahkmarv> ahh okay:)
[16:51] <Zhenya> hi guys! I'm having major issues with trying to get dual monitors working on a thinkpad t41. Everything except a straight cloning with low resolution gets me garbled screen! Does anyone have any experience fixing this?
[16:55] <Mutant1> hi
[16:55] <Mutant1> I installed KDE yesterday but now all my smoothness of fonts is gone now
[16:55] <Mutant1> can any one help me
[16:56] <adilalpman> i need help too :(
[16:56] <Mutant1> how can i revert my system to day before yesterday
[16:59] <harjot> how do i restart the 'keyboard'?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Razion, I'm not sure what you mean by "where they need to be", it depends on your souncard setup , on board or pci first of all.
[17:00] <harjot> Are there any keyboard modules or something?
[17:01] <harjot> Because sometimes the keyboard wont let me type unless i hold down the key
[17:01] <harjot> Which makes it repeat
[17:03] <Dahkmarv> which programm i've got to use to edit config files?
[17:03] <harjot> Anyone?
[17:03] <harjot> My keyboard wont let me type after a while unless i hold down the key resulting to something similar:
[17:03] <harjot> aass tthhiiss
[17:05] <DarthFrog> Have you tried a new keyboard?
[17:07] <harjot> DarthFrog: the keyboards not the problem
[17:07] <harjot> DarthFrog: Im certain
[17:07] <harjot> DarthFrog: because a ctrl-alt-bcpse fixes it
[17:08] <DarthFrog> Trying a different keyboard gives weight to your certainty. :-)
[17:10] <harjot> DarthFrog: its a laptop
[17:10] <DarthFrog> You can plug a USB keyboard into a laptop.
[17:10] <DarthFrog> But if you don't want to bother ...
[17:11] <harjot> Im pretty sure its not the keyboard
[17:11] <harjot> Like 95%
[17:12] <Scunizi> Is there a kde front end to efax?  I'd just like to avoid efax-gtk if you know what I mean.....
[17:12] <DarthFrog> harjot: OK, keep your keyboard.  swap out your keyboard controller then, instead. :-)  Get my drift?  I think you have a hardware problem.
[17:13] <ozgur> ç
[17:14] <harjot> DarthFrog: Im thinking its software related, as this has never happened beofre
[17:14] <harjot> DarthFrog: what if i reset the keyboard language?
[17:14] <ozgur> hi
[17:15] <DarthFrog> harjot: That just translates the keyboard input into different glyphs.
[17:15] <DarthFrog> But, hey, give it a shot.
[17:17] <harjot> ok
[17:18] <razd> I know I can try this myself, but since I'm here I might as well ask. A friend of mine mentioned throwing out his old tower. It occured to me that I could turn it into an NES/SNES/PSX emulation machine. Anyone have any experience with game console emulators on Kubuntu? If so, are they as solid as they are on Windows? I wouldn't go past the PSX era, so I'm not worried about PS2, Xbox, etc...
[17:19] <harjot> psx?
[17:19] <harjot> pcsx
[17:19] <harjot> I tried that, but i dont think my video card is good with much
[17:20] <razd> Playstation One... the original one?
[17:20] <harjot> razd: Ive had no luck with emulators, mainly because of my graphics
[17:20] <harjot> razd: try pcsx
[17:20] <razd> Yeah, I have a spare vidcard lying around that I know works with Ubuntu
[17:21] <razd> If it's compatible with this tower's mobo, I might just try it
[17:22] <harjot> try it
[17:22] <harjot> I think you need a bios though
[17:22] <harjot> For pcsx
[17:22] <harjot> Not sure
[17:22] <razd> Yeah most playstation emulators work that way, I understand
[17:23] <razd> Should be fun if it works. I'm tired of losing saves on SNES carts and PSX memory cards
[17:23] <harjot> Yeah, i think pcsx is stable, its been around for some time
[17:23] <razd> Cool... thanks
[17:24] <harjot> np
[17:24] <adilalpman> why i cant get any help
[17:24] <adilalpman> from ubuntu team
[17:25] <adilalpman> till days i cant really understand :(
[17:29] <razd> Might be a good chance to try out Mythbuntu
[17:29]  * razd shrugs
[17:29] <DarthFrog> razd: Mythbuntu is excellent.
[17:30] <razd> Yeah I just stumbled across the MythGame module for MythTV... if I could control the interface with my USB controller, I'd be all set
[17:31] <DarthFrog> Does your USB controller work with LIRC?
[17:31] <DarthFrog> Unlikely, never mind. :-)
[17:32] <razd> Oh man that would be cool... an infrared game controller hooked up to MythGame
[17:33] <DarthFrog> Does such a thing exist?
[17:33] <razd> But I have a wireless dual-shock PSX controller that works with my little USB adapter thingy, so that'll do
[17:34] <razd> although, if I remember correctly, Ubuntu had trouble with the analog sticks last time I tried any emulation on it... about 2 releases ago :)
[17:40] <razd> Oh look, they even have packages to get an Xbox 360 controller working
[17:41] <razd> Dear lord, I'm afraid I'm never going to leave my house again... This is going to be awesome
[17:41] <DarthFrog> You'll have to leave sometime, you'll run out of toilet paper! :-)
[17:41] <razd> haha
[17:48] <DeathKnight> how to use kde??? its driving me crazy..
[17:48] <Pici> Congrats, you're using KDE then :P
[17:49] <BluesKaj> DeathKnight, kubuntu-desktop ?
[17:49] <DeathKnight> yeah
[17:49] <shadeslayer> hehe..
[17:49] <shadeslayer> KDE 4.5 crashes even in gnome here ;)
[17:49] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop , DeathKnight
[17:49] <DeathKnight> it just crashed
[17:49] <DeathKnight> BluesKaj, yes i did that in gnome
[17:50] <shadeslayer> DeathKnight: any idea what it says about the crash?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> which app,backtrace,etc
[17:50] <DeathKnight> it just crashed when i was trying to resize the panel.. and it went below the screen
[17:50] <DeathKnight> shall i do that again and get the result
[17:50] <DeathKnight> didnt crash this time.. :(
[17:51] <DeathKnight> how do i move the panel to top?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> what app are you talking about ?
[17:52] <DeathKnight> i dont know what it is called in kde.. i am talking about the panel.. the panel.
[17:52] <DeathKnight> panel with all menus and notification areas etc
[17:52] <shadeslayer> DeathKnight: there should be a cashew in the panel..... far right
[17:53] <BluesKaj> DeathKnight, log out and back in , at the login page choose kde from the menu.
[17:53] <DeathKnight> yeah there is someting..
[17:53] <DeathKnight> shadeslayer, what do i do with the cashew?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> DeathKnight: click it,youll get the settings for the pane;
[17:54] <shadeslayer> *panel
[17:54] <razd> click it cautiously
[17:54] <DeathKnight> ys.. but there is no option to take it on top..
[17:54] <shadeslayer> have a close look at every button,everything is right there\
[17:54] <DeathKnight> screen edge.
[17:54] <shadeslayer> DeathKnight: -_-  .... look carefully... something called " Edge "
[17:54] <shadeslayer> DeathKnight: yes!
[17:55] <DeathKnight> yes... one thing done..
[17:55] <DeathKnight> bit hard to use this..not hard but confusing..
[17:57] <razd> It takes some getting used to, but I've found KDE to be the most customizable desktop manager out there
[17:58] <razd> Took me a while to get the hang of workspaces, activities, and just what the heck Plasma is
[17:59] <DeathKnight> razd, oh.. ok.. i will try..
[18:00] <DeathKnight> but why dows this KDE remind me much of windows?
[18:00] <harjot> Because the bars at the bottom
[18:00] <razd> because it uses the same desktop metaphor that most desktop managers use
[18:01] <noaXess_kubuntu> hey
[18:01] <DeathKnight> hmm..
[18:01] <noaXess_kubuntu> normaly grub2 should be installed if i upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, right?
[18:02] <razd> noaXess_kubuntu: I'm pretty sure Kubuntu 10.04 installed grub 1.98 on my machine
[18:02] <razd> although I'm at work, so I can't verify that
[18:02] <DeathKnight> and.. my computer used to boot within 15 secs.. and after installing this it is taking 30+ secs.. why?
[18:02] <noaXess_kubuntu> razd: so thats package grub2
[18:03] <razd> DeathKnight: what OS were you booting into before?
[18:03] <noaXess_kubuntu> my fresh upgraded 10.04 has still grub 0.97
[18:03] <DeathKnight> lucid
[18:03] <DeathKnight> razd, lucid
[18:04] <razd> DeathKnight: I'm assuming you were running Ubuntu (gnome) and not Kubuntu (KDE)?
[18:05] <DeathKnight> razd, true true.. i just installed kde about 15 mins ago
[18:06] <shadeslayer> DeathKnight: well,if you install more stuff onto your HD,it will take some more time to boot obviously
[18:06] <razd> ah ok, I'm not much of a guru on the topic, but I do know the general consensus is that you may have some performance problems if you have both Gnome & KDE installed
[18:06] <shadeslayer> like mine... i have almost all KDE debug packages installed... and boot is near 25 secs
[18:07] <shadeslayer> btw does anyone know if the kubuntu installer supports GPT ?
[18:07] <apparle> guys how does kubuntu look with compiz instead of kwin
[18:07] <DeathKnight> shadeslayer, ok..
[18:08] <Razion> I have audio coming out of different outputs. Some programs output through the onboard sound, some through the USB headset. Any idea how to get them all to output to the headset?
[18:08] <razd> noaXess_kubuntu: did you use the entire disk during install or did you just install to a partition?
[18:08] <oxymoron> When using unrar to extract rar archives my Dual Core CPU uses almost 40% and Xorg 10 % and my computer frooze once in awhile, and goes REALLY SLOW? WHY?
[18:08] <shadeslayer> apparle: should look the same,but dont expect it to enable all effects kwin has
[18:08] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: uh... how big was the archive?
[18:09] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: and 10pc CPU by xorg is probably due to plasma-desktop
[18:09] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Like 21 GB, but happens when extracting 4 GB files as well.
[18:09] <razd> noaXess_kubuntu: I'm thinking you may have somehow missed installing grub into the MBR during install... that's the only thing I can think of
[18:09] <Razion> oxymoron: Files that big usually lag, mate.
[18:10] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: I extract from terminal so I dont understand Xorg.
[18:10] <oxymoron> Razion: WHY?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> I'm considering trying out dropbox , but it seems to be set up for gtk-libs and gnome . I'd like to keep my OS as kde pure as possible altho one must use some gtk based apps like synaptic in some cases. Is there a kde version or do i have to install nautilus and all the gtk dependencies , in order to make it work?
[18:10] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: ah.. well those are quite big and will take CPU cycles
[18:10] <oxymoron> It shouldnt take so much power that the system become unstable ... lol
[18:10] <shadeslayer> you didnt expect it to idle at 10 pc :P
[18:10] <Razion> oxymoron: That's a hell of a lot of data. I don't know the technical details of it, but archives have always done that in my experience.
[18:11] <razd> noaXess_kubuntu: try booting SuperGrubDisk from a cd and see if you can work the problem out from there
[18:11] <apparle> BluesKaj: what is dropbox
[18:11] <oxymoron> Razion: Not in Windows, there I oculd run winrar with several rar archives in like 4 GB parallelle, not lag at all.
[18:11] <apparle> !info dropbox
[18:11] <shadeslayer> apparle: ;)
[18:11] <shadeslayer> !dropbox | apparle
[18:11] <oxymoron> razd: Just admit, unrar sucks in Linux
[18:11] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:12] <apparle> shadeslayer: when did that change from !info to directly package name?
[18:12] <apparle> shadeslayer: and I still didn't get any reply
[18:12] <razd> oxymoron: he has a grub issue... I wasn't talking about unrar... but yeah, it's gone noticably slow in my experience
[18:13] <shadeslayer> apparle: yeah,no factoid :P
[18:13] <shadeslayer> apparle: and i dont think theres a dropbox package
[18:13] <apparle> shadeslayer: what's factoid :P
[18:13] <petr_> hi
[18:13] <razd> there isn't a dropbox package... I was looking for one the other day :/
[18:13] <shadeslayer> !factoid | apparle
[18:13] <petr_> what about movie player for kubuntu 8 ????
[18:14] <apparle> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:14] <Guest70329> all my players is bad work with my PC
[18:14] <apparle> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:14] <assential> a?
[18:14] <assential> guys!
[18:14] <apparle> shadeslayer: that's different isn't it
[18:15] <apparle> !dropbox
[18:15] <BluesKaj> !info dropbox
[18:15] <oxymoron> razd: Sorry wrong person
[18:15] <oxymoron> Razion: : Just admit, unrar sucks in Linux
[18:15] <shadeslayer> apparle: yes.. the factoids are the stuff right after !
[18:15] <assential> when I start big film (8GB)    my vlc player crash!
[18:15] <Razion> Oxymoron: Why? o_o;. I don't use it.
[18:15] <BluesKaj> apparle, dropbbox is a web based backup and sync for files etc
[18:16] <shadeslayer> theres something on kde-apps.org about dropbox...
[18:16] <oxymoron> Razion: Nevertheless, it sucks no matter what, its not optimized at all for Linux. Then big file handling isnt Linux best sides ...
[18:16] <shadeslayer> dont remember the name,but its a context menu
[18:16] <assential> ??????????
[18:16] <shadeslayer> i think..
[18:16] <assential> what?
[18:16] <assential> alll
[18:16] <DeathKnight> hmm.. can anyone show me a screenshot of their kubuntu dekstop?
[18:16] <FloodBotK3> assential: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <assential> alll!!!   listen to me!
[18:16] <Razion> Oxymoron: I'm not sure why you're trying to argue with me. I wasn't preaching the superiority of Linux, or anything...o_o;
[18:16] <oxymoron> Razion: And then I have a 3 GHz Dual Core, SSD Disk ... and 4 GB RAM
[18:17] <assential> I want to see film "11-14"    and I can not do it!
[18:17] <oxymoron> Razion: I am factoing, not arguing :P
[18:17] <assential> vlc does not work!
[18:17] <shadeslayer> assential: tried dragon player?
[18:17] <Razion> oxymoron: Well "factoing" doesn't increase your unrar times. :P
[18:17] <assential> no
[18:17] <shadeslayer> assential: also,open a bug with VLC player then
[18:17] <apparle> !patience | assential
[18:17] <BluesKaj> yup shadeslayer apparle, I was looking at akregator kde apps , http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kdropbox?content=123269
[18:17] <shadeslayer> assential: it crashes every time?
[18:18] <assential> nono !   only sound!
[18:18] <oxymoron> Razion: No, but it sure feels better xD
[18:18] <assential> Sount exists but images not exists
[18:18] <Razion> oxymoron: Your time could be better spent trying to fix my sound. :P
[18:19] <shadeslayer> assential: ah..
[18:19] <assential> shadeslayer  no!   63 MB  I want not to wait downloading
[18:19] <shadeslayer> assential: i think its a problem with phonon,you could try the phonon-vlc backend
[18:19] <shadeslayer> assential: whats a 63 MB download?
[18:20] <assential> shadeslayer   dragonplayes
[18:20]  * shadeslayer wonders how assential does not have dragonplayer if he has kde
[18:20] <Gerwin> DragonPlayer is 414 kb...
[18:21] <shadeslayer> assential: are you sure you have KDE?
[18:21] <assential> I did not say that I have KDE
[18:21] <BluesKaj> DeathKnight, http://imagebin.ca/view/GKZdV2I.html
[18:21] <assential> I have kubuntu 8
[18:21] <Razion> I have audio coming out of different outputs. Some programs output through the onboard sound, some through the USB headset. Any idea how to get them all to output to the headset?
[18:21] <oxymoron> Razion: I could do a lot of better things yes ... but im sick, some weird virus that nobody knows what it is, called Virus-38 regarding doctor ... Nevertheless, I dont think I can think clear enough to fix your sound :P
[18:21] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: it's easy to have kde without dragonplayer
[18:21] <apparle> assential: are you saying you have kubuntu 8.04?
[18:22] <Razion> Oxymoron: xD
[18:22] <assential> yaya
[18:22] <assential> YES
[18:22] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: doesnt it depend on kubuntu-desktop
[18:22] <shadeslayer> assential: \o/
[18:22] <apparle> Razion: see in the phonon settings
[18:22] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: you can have kde without k-d
[18:22] <oxymoron> Razion: Then I dont see why you should listen on everything in headset anyway, bad for ears :P
[18:22] <Razion> apparle: They're all set to th headset.
[18:22] <shadeslayer> assential: that is 2 years old!
[18:22] <assential> I am conservator
[18:23] <Razion> Next idea?
[18:23] <DeathKnight> BluesKaj, ok.. so simple yet good.
[18:23] <apparle> assential: but 8.04 is no longer supported as it is very old, so it is highly recommended that you install 10.04
[18:23] <DeathKnight> but i want a good.. cool one..
[18:23] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: not without dep issues :P
[18:23] <BluesKaj> assential, well it's good to let us know what version before ppl start searching for ways to help
[18:24] <apparle> Razion: and the applications you are using, all use phonon?
[18:24] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: brrrh, not really, but this is irrelevant now
[18:24] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: yeah.. :P
[18:24] <BluesKaj> DeathKnight, I used to use desktop icons but now they're mostly useless to me , everything can be launched from the panel
[18:24] <Razion> apparle: No. Firefox doesn't. The phonon ones go to the headset. The others go to the speakers.
[18:25] <Razion> apparle: Sorry, firefox and a couple games.
[18:25] <DeathKnight> BluesKaj, ok..
[18:25] <assential> I am a conservative
[18:25] <assential> I like 8.04
[18:25] <apparle> Razion: the headset driver also uses alsa right?
[18:25] <DeathKnight> BluesKaj, and do you know if i have just kubuntu 10.04 then will it boot fast?
[18:25] <BluesKaj> conservatives can be conservative and still up to date with stable installs
[18:26] <Razion> Razion: Presumably. I have no idea. It shows up in the alsa mixer, so...
[18:26] <assential> Is it stupidly?
[18:26] <assential> Am I stupid?
[18:26] <apparle> assential: but 10.04 has many new features, it is faster, looks better, and I think it will play your file
[18:26] <apparle> Razion: :)
[18:26] <apparle> Razion: ok in alsa mixer try selecting the output to headset
[18:26] <BluesKaj> DeathKnight, yes , having 2 desktops is redundancy and causes the sytem to bog down somewhat
[18:26] <assential> but windows 2002 (xp)   play all big files fine  (8GB)
[18:27] <DeathKnight> can or cant i get the gnome menu in this?
[18:27] <DeathKnight> the one with applications, places and system? in a cool looking way..
[18:27] <apparle> assential: Windows 2002 (XP) came with a lot of updates like SP1 and SP2.....
[18:27] <Razion> apparle: There is no such option. What mixer am I supposed to be using?
[18:27] <apparle> assential: similarly here you have 10.04
[18:28] <BluesKaj> DeathKnight, gnome apps will run fine in kde and vice versa...try them both for a while to make up your mind
[18:28] <DeathKnight> ok..
[18:29] <apparle> Razion: use alsamixer command in konsole
[18:29] <BluesKaj> I prefer kde , due to my being an old windows user since 1992
[18:29] <shadeslayer> hadrian: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta
[18:29] <assential> apparle ok
[18:30] <DeathKnight> need to sleep now.. customizing tomorrow.. cyall later..
[18:30] <apparle> Razion: and then use F6 as written in top right corner
[18:30] <hadrian> shadeslayer : thank you\
[18:30] <shadeslayer> hadrian: no problem
[18:30] <apparle> assential: wait
[18:30] <shadeslayer> hadrian: though i would still pass on the advice i got,to compile Qt as well
[18:31] <apparle> assential: have you tried playing the file in kaffeine
[18:31] <hadrian> shadeslayer : ok
[18:31] <Razion> apparle: Oh. The hell. Had no idea that existed.
[18:32] <apparle> Razion: by that are you refering to that mixer or to that option
[18:32] <Razion> apparle: The mixer. xD Firefox is still outputting to the onboard sound card. Do I need to log out/restart alsa?
[18:32] <assential> apparle  yes...  everyehere file work....  but in one after 1 minut disappear image!
[18:33] <assential> assential    in coffete  appear error message...
[18:33] <apparle> assential: coffete?....
[18:33] <apparle> assential: I seriously think you should try 10.04
[18:34] <Razion> apparle: Ah. according to this mixer, the default is the onboard. Is there any way to make the headset the default?
[18:34] <assential> apparle  kaffete wark....  but video go with "steps"...  5 shots per second...   and sound disappeared
[18:35] <assential> I have bad integrated 128mb videocard
[18:35] <Razion> assential: What's you're native language?
[18:35] <apparle> assential: when have you installed linux? which graphic card do yo have
[18:35] <Razion> *your.
[18:35] <Zhenya> hi guys! I'm having major issues with trying to get dual monitors working on a thinkpad t41. Everything except a straight cloning with low resolution gets me garbled screen! Does anyone have any experience fixing this?
[18:35] <assential> russian
[18:35] <Razion> Wow. Don't know my own, apparently.
[18:35] <Razion> assential: Have you tried the RU channel?
[18:35] <assential> no no
[18:36] <assential> I am bunned there
[18:36] <Razion> banned?
[18:36] <Razion> Why the hell...
[18:36] <assential> banned
[18:36] <assential> ))
[18:36] <assential> fuck russians?
[18:36] <Razion> Why did you get banned from the RU channel, dare I ask?
[18:36] <Zhenya> ?
[18:36] <apparle> assential: don't you such language
[18:36] <assential> I do not know
[18:36] <Razion> apparle: Ah. according to this mixer, the default is the onboard. Is there any way to make the headset the default?
[18:36] <apparle> !rules
[18:36] <apparle> !coc
[18:37] <apparle> assential: ^^
[18:37] <assential> give me link on RU channel please
[18:37] <Razion> !russian
[18:38] <assential> opa     [21:37] [404] #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel
[18:38] <Razion> apparle: Any ideas, mate?
[18:38] <assential> [21:38] <assential> allo!
[18:38] <assential> [21:38] [404] #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel
[18:38] <apparle> Razion: ohh sorry was away..... I don't know but search google
[18:38] <Razion> I got into the RU channel just fine, assential.
[18:38] <Razion> Not sure what your problem is.
[18:38] <hadrian> shadeslayer : once i add that PPA to my system, how do i actually download wat i need ?
[18:39] <assential> [21:39] <assential> ыыыыыыыыыы
[18:39] <assential> [21:39] [404] #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel
[18:39] <Pici> !register | assential
[18:39] <shadeslayer> hadrian: just update and upgrade.. and libqt4-dev i think
[18:39] <apparle> assential: which graphic card you have
[18:39] <Pici> assential: You must register before you can talk there, please see ubottu's instructions.
[18:39] <assential> 21:39] <assential> !register | assential
[18:39] <assential> [21:39] [404] #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel
[18:40] <Pici> assential: No. You need to follow the instructions here before you can talk there: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[18:40] <apparle> assential: we have understood that you are unable do join bug please don't flood the cannel
[18:41] <Pici> assential: If you need help with those instructions, please ask in #freenode
[18:41] <hadrian> shadeslayer : trying ...
[18:42] <Razion> I've got a couple programs outputting sound to my onboard sound card. The rest go to my USB headset like they should. Any ideas on how to push the rest back into line?
[18:42] <Razion> I'm rather close to pushing my keyboard off a cliff, and installing Ubuntu over my Kubuntu install. *Twitches*
[18:43] <assential> YES!  I registred
[18:43] <assential> but I do not want nickname "assential" !    it is shit nickname
[18:43] <shadeslayer> assential: #freenode
[18:44] <shadeslayer> assential: just do /nick my_nicl
[18:44] <Pici> assential: Please stop swearing, you have already been warned once.
[18:44] <assential> ok   I get out   to russian chat
[18:47] <Razion> I've got a couple programs outputting sound to my onboard sound card. The rest go to my USB headset like they should. Any ideas on how to push the rest back into line?
[18:51] <apparle> Razion: see this
[18:51] <apparle> Razion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Configuring%20default%20soundcards%20/%20stopping%20soundcards%20from%20switching
[18:51] <apparle> Razion: but the link seems old so I don't know if it still works
[18:52] <apparle> Razion: and next time reframe your question to .... how to change the default alsa sound card
[18:54] <BluesKaj> Razion, your soundcard will auto default to it's outputs , it's designed to do so , as are media apps ..some other apps like talkbooks , skype etc are designed to default to the headphone out , but not the USB ports , so it's hit and miss in your case
[18:55] <apparle> Razion: if you use everything to headphone when it is connected, then setup the defaults according to the link (if it works). When it doesn't find your sound card it will fall back to the speakers
[18:57] <Razion> apparle: I don't know the device name of the headset.
[18:57] <apparle> Razion: see the name in the sound settings
[18:57] <apparle> Razion: oh wait
[18:58] <Razion> BluesKaj: There's no way to just tell it to send bloody everything to the headset? It's not an uncommon setup.
[18:58] <BluesKaj> to the headset yes, but not to a usb afaik, Razion
[18:59] <Razion> BluesKaj: Ah. So you're saying it would work with a non-usb one. Well, that's annoying.
[19:00] <apparle> Razion: thee linux world is taking a transistion from normal to phonon.... to solve your problem... but that can't happen that fast
[19:01] <BluesKaj> well Razion , it depends on your soundcard and your available audio capture options
[19:01] <apparle> Razion: did you read that link well
[19:02] <Razion> Apparle: Yes.
[19:02] <apparle> Razion: they have mentioned the command "cat /proc/asound/modules" in konsole... it will give you the sound cards
[19:03] <BluesKaj> it should show the soundcard  in alsamixer
[19:04] <Razion> apparle: that command returns nothing.
[19:04] <Razion> apparle: Er. The command doesn't work, rather.
[19:05] <apparle> Razion: what.... when you run "cat /proc/asound/modules" in konsole... with the quotes removed.... then it returns nothing?
[19:05] <Razion> apparle: Yes.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> aha Razion , you need driver maybe, open the konsole and type alsamixer
[19:05] <apparle> Razion: if that were the case.. you shouldn't be getting the sound at all
[19:05] <apparle> BluesKaj: but that file is supposed to contain the kernel modules of various sound cards
[19:06] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:06] <apparle> BluesKaj: basically he needs to find the kernel modules of the loaded sound card
[19:06] <Razion> BluesKaj: It's open.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> some setups don't have asound.conf
[19:06] <BluesKaj> err asoundrc.conf
[19:07] <BluesKaj> Razion, what does the card say in alsamixer
[19:07] <Razion> mine has asound.conf, not rc.
[19:07] <apparle> Razion: so what, their name should be listed under /proc/asound/modules isn't it?
[19:08] <apparle> BluesKaj: ^^
[19:09] <Razion> Apparle: How do I check?
[19:09] <Razion> apparle: As I've said, the command "cat" does nothing.
[19:09] <Razion> And now it does.
[19:09] <Razion> The hell.
[19:09] <apparle> Razion: :)
[19:11] <Razion> relogging.
[19:13] <Razion> Okay. My default sound card is the USB headset now.
[19:13] <Razion> So why the hell is firefox still adamant about playing through the sound card?
[19:14] <Torch> Razion: because firefox is no phonon/kde app
[19:15] <Razion> Torch: So the solution here is install Ubuntu > Kubuntu, or light my browser/flash on fire?
[19:16] <Torch> Razion: i don't understand a word
[19:17] <Razion> Torch: How do I fix it? Is there a phonon/kde browser that supports flash?
[19:17] <Torch> Razion: but anyway... the solution is to either stick to KDE apps (and phonon-aware apps) exclusively or to set the output for apps that don't adhere to phonon settings some other way.
[19:18] <lycan> hey can someone give me a hand plz
[19:19] <lycan> i'm using kubuntu and when i create file , automaticly it creates also a green file (backup)
[19:19] <Razion> Torch: Okay. Konquerer is a KDE app. It outputs to the sound card as well.
[19:19] <Razion> Torch
[19:20] <Razion> Torch: Is it FLASH that's the issue, in this case?
[19:20] <Torch> Razion: flash is definitely not a kde app ;-)
[19:20] <lycan> someone can help me?
[19:20] <Torch> lycan: which app are you talking about?
[19:21] <lycan> when i create a text file
[19:21] <Torch> lycan: in kwrite or kate?
[19:21] <lycan> it automaticly creates also
[19:21] <lycan> a green file
[19:21] <Razion> Torch: Okay. So how can I get it to output correctly, then?
[19:21] <lycan> but i want to create only the text file
[19:22] <lycan> how can i do that?
[19:22] <Torch> Razion: i have no idea about flash and how to configure it. i avoid it as much as i can.
[19:23] <Torch> lycan: in kate, pick configure kate from the settings menu. go to "open/save", go to the advanced tab and untick "local files" under "backup on save"
[19:23] <Torch> lycan: basically the same procedure in kwrite.
[19:23] <lycan> ah ok tjans dude
[19:23] <lycan> thanks dude
[19:24] <lycan> linux4ever
[19:24] <Torch> lycan: well, this is a particularly stupid default setting and people complain about it for years ;-)
[19:24] <lycan> thanks damn keybord
[19:24] <lycan> ahhaha
[19:24] <lycan> u're right
[19:35] <apparle> Razion: did you do what the link said?
[19:35] <Razion> apparle: Yes. It now has an index of 0, but still feels like letting the onboard be the default.
[19:36] <apparle> Torch: Razion has set the default sound card in alsa, and still it is not working?
[19:36] <apparle> Razion: I suggest you try restarting
[19:36] <apparle> Razion: and check if the file you modified has been saved correctly
[19:42] <vbgunz__> can anyone help me figure out why when my computer should have gone to sleep "suspend to ram" it instead at some point just shut down?
[19:44] <Hamra> battery runs out?
[19:44] <vbgunz__> my pc is setup to sleep an hour after going idle. this morning, it should awoken but was really just off. I saw a lot of orphan file cleanups scroll by. can I figure out why the pc shutdown rather than go to sleep?
[19:44] <vbgunz__> Hamra: Desktop
[19:44] <vbgunz__> Hamra: power in the house seemed fine. nothing else reset, not even the pc next to this one
[19:44] <Razion> Well...Having my USB headset set as the default causes alsamixer to report "no such mixer device"
[19:46] <razd> vbgunz__: if your power supply unit isn't sufficient to run your hardware, your computer will shutdown
[19:46] <razd> vbgunz__: this happened to me after adding a new hard drive... i would tell it to sleep at night, and in the morning, i'd find it shut down completely... the PSU was the problem
[19:48] <n8w> guys have u got any solution to the "network management disabled" after hibernation etc??
[19:48] <vbgunz__> razd: I really hope my psu aint dying, pc seems stable wether in Kubuntu or Win7
[19:49] <vbgunz__> I guess my question is, is there a record of what possibly happened that cause a shutdown?
[19:50] <apparle> vbgunz__: you mean it just turned off, didn't even hibernate
[19:50] <n8w> i mean do i have to everytime after hibernation change the value to true in the networkmanager.state?
[19:51] <n8w> if so, then 10,4 sux big time....
[19:52] <shadeslayer> n8w: try kde 4.4.4
[19:52] <shadeslayer> maybe it contains a fix?
[19:52] <shadeslayer> it should be released soonish.. they just finished testing the upgrdes
[19:53] <n8w> shadeslayer:  hmmm im afraid to do that,coz last time i ended up with a black screen:)
[19:53] <shadeslayer> n8w: hehe.
[19:54] <vbgunz__> n8w: this happens every single time you hibernate?
[19:54] <n8w> shadeslayer:  i hope they will release a fix for that soooon...
[19:54] <n8w> vbgunz__:  90% of times
[19:55] <vbgunz__> n8w: so you can reproduce it 9 times out of 10?
[19:55] <vbgunz__> so this will happen at least once in your next 2 times trying to hibernate?
[19:55] <n8w> vbgunz__:  ye i think so...
[19:55] <apparle> n8w: for the moment I suggest you exit network manager and then hibernate and start it after you resume
[19:56] <n8w> apparle:  when i use s2disk instead of the default hib mechanism, it never happens
[19:56] <vbgunz__> n8w: do you have the kernel option of pci=nomsi in grub?
[19:56] <vbgunz__> n8w: if not, I can try to walk you through updating grub to pass that paramater if you don't know how
[19:57] <n8w> apparle:  but i dunno how to implement s2disk so its bein used as a default hib mechanism
[19:57] <apparle> n8w: how do you use that s2disk option
[19:58] <n8w> apparle:  sudo s2disk
[19:59] <apparle> n8w: ok
[19:59] <n8w> apparle:  that works fine, but implementin s2disk into 10.4 is not the same as on 9.4
[19:59] <vbgunz__> n8w: do you want to try the pci=nomsi option?
[20:00] <n8w> apparle:  in 9.4 ive edited some configs(dont remeber which ones) n it was used as a default mechanism
[20:00] <n8w> apparle:  when i tried to do the same on 10.4 i could not find those configs...
[20:01] <n8w> vbgunz__:  what do u use as a hibernation machanism?
[20:02] <apparle> n8w: I don't know about that
[20:03] <n8w> apparle:  besides other things ive tried this: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/06/get-suspendhibernate-working-fast-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn-704/
[20:03] <vbgunz__> n8w: I suspend and hibernate from the menu manually. Also, I've setup to suspend to ram in systemsettings > advanced user settings > power management
[20:04] <n8w> apparle:  it doesnt work, it kicks up s2disk but it gets stock on "snapshotin system"
[20:04] <vbgunz__> I use to have crazy problems suspending to ram and hibernating until I started passing the pci=nomsi option at boot. that solved all issues.
[20:04] <n8w> vbgunz__:  i dont use suspend to ram at all, coz it never wakes up
[20:04] <vbgunz__> n8w: do you know how to update grub?
[20:05] <n8w> vbgunz__:  have never tried it:)
[20:05] <vbgunz__> you have kubuntu 10.04?
[20:05] <n8w> vbgunz__:  thats smth i never mess with
[20:05] <n8w> vbgunz__:  yep
[20:05] <vbgunz__> n8w: you know how to use the terminal?
[20:05] <apparle> vbgunz__: you are going from GRUB to GRUB2?
[20:06] <n8w> vbgunz__:  ye
[20:06] <vbgunz__> apparle: ?
[20:06] <vbgunz__> n8w: do this > ls /etc/default | grep grub
[20:06] <apparle> vbgunz__: you asked  do you know how to update grub?
[20:07] <vbgunz__> n8w: do you have that file?
[20:07] <apparle> vbgunz__: oh... u were telling hime
[20:07] <apparle> vbgunz__: sorry
[20:07] <vbgunz__> apparle: oh, no, asking n8w if he know how to update grub
[20:07] <n8w> vbgunz__:  ye got it
[20:08] <vbgunz__> n8w: awesome do this > sudo cp /etc/default/grub /etc/default/grub__backup
[20:08] <vbgunz__> n8w: always backup your stuff man
[20:08] <n8w> vbgunz__:  ye toaly:)
[20:08] <n8w> vbgunz__:  go on
[20:08] <vbgunz__> good, do you know how to open files using admin in your favorite editor?
[20:09] <n8w> vbgunz__:  ye
[20:09] <vbgunz__> e.g., kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub
[20:09] <n8w> vbgunz__:  done
[20:09] <vbgunz__> find the line that looks like this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="..."
[20:09] <vbgunz__> whats in the double quotes is different
[20:09] <n8w> vbgunz__:  listen im a noob, but not a toal noob:)))
[20:10] <vbgunz__> all good my friend, find that line and within the double quoted string add pci=nomsi
[20:10] <vbgunz__> so it'll probably look something like "splash pci=nomsi"
[20:10] <n8w> vbgunz__:  mine contains this. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:11] <vbgunz__> yeah, thats good, make it look like "quiet splash pci=nomsi"
[20:11] <n8w> vbgunz__:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pci=nomsi"
[20:11] <vbgunz__> save that file and run this in the terminal > sudo update-grub
[20:11] <vbgunz__> perfect
[20:12] <n8w> vbgunz__:  all sone
[20:12] <n8w> vbgunz__:  *done
[20:12] <n8w> vbgunz__:  ok so what have we done?:)))
[20:12] <vbgunz__> awesome, the sudo update-grub is pertinent, without it, the changes you made will be lost. now reboot and try suspending to ram
[20:13] <vbgunz__> you will hopefully be able to suspend to ram and hibernate without messing with knetwork manager
[20:13] <n8w> vbgunz__:  uff ok the moment of truth is here:D
[20:13] <vbgunz__> you should be able to do this from the menu manually and set it up to do this from advanced power management
[20:14] <n8w> vbgunz__:  ok im gonna reboot n suspend...i will hopefully see u in a bit:)
[20:14] <vbgunz__> n8w: cool stuff\
[20:14] <denis_> t
[20:23] <n8w> ..
[20:25] <vbgunz> n8w: ran some test? suspend to ram work?
[20:25] <n8w> vbgunz:  nope....
[20:25] <jedix> hey
[20:26] <n8w> vbgunz:  when i did suspend to ram, it didnt wake up
[20:26] <jedix> is there an up to date page with settings required to get gigE speeds out fo my gigE hardware?
[20:26] <jedix> I have it doing ~35MB/s over scp
[20:26] <n8w> vbgunz:  n then it didnt even boot up...it got stock on the screen kubuntu...it has happened to me before so i knew what to do
[20:26] <vbgunz> n8w: can you double check /etc/default/grub and just make sure the pci=nomsi is still there?
[20:27] <n8w> vbgunz:  so i had to go through the recovery n startx manually
[20:27] <vbgunz> n8w: sounds like you could have much bigger problems
[20:27] <vbgunz> is all of your hardware very new?
[20:27] <jedix> noacpi?
[20:27] <n8w> vbgunz:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pci=nomsi"
[20:27] <n8w> vbgunz:  MSI gx700
[20:28] <vbgunz> n8w: I remember when I had my suspend problems, it all started with an MSI board
[20:28] <n8w> vbgunz:  everythin was workin fine on 9.04
[20:29] <n8w> vbgunz:  even s2disk as default mechanism worked
[20:29] <n8w> vbgunz:  im kinda gettin tired of 10.4
[20:29] <vbgunz> n8w: if the pci=nomsi option really didn't work out for you, you can move the backup over it, or edit it again to remove the pci=nomsi option. then remember you need to update-grub for those options to take effect
[20:30] <jedix> did try noacpi?
[20:30] <vbgunz> n8w: I can understanf your frustration. I too went right through it with 9.04 trying to get suspend and hibernation working correctly
[20:31] <n8w> vbgunz:  well lets hope that there will b a fix available soon
[20:31] <vbgunz> n8w: oh yeah, by the way, do you have S1 and/or S3 power saving enabled in your bios?
[20:32] <n8w> vbgunz:  dman, i dunno...
[20:32] <n8w> vbgunz:  im not even sure that there r options like that
[20:32] <vbgunz> n8w: you can try checking your bios for power features and see if you already have s1 and/or s3 power saving features enabled. do you know how to get into your bios?
[20:33] <vbgunz> n8w: you need to have global state S3 enabled in order for you to suspend to ram
[20:34] <n8w> vbgunz:  i could take a look at it...but i dont think thats the prob here...
[20:35] <apparle> n8w: problem fixed?
[20:35] <n8w> apparle:  nope;)
[20:35] <vbgunz> n8w: you can always check and make sure you have at least S3 for suspending to ram
[20:35] <apparle> n8w: have a look at this http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=18837&start=20
[20:35] <vbgunz> n8w: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface
[20:35] <apparle> n8w: the link it gives might help you
[20:36] <apparle> ok I got to go bye guys
[20:36] <n8w> apparle:  cya n thx
[20:36] <apparle> n8w: I am sure that will fix it ;) cya
[20:37] <n8w> apparle:  ive tried that
[20:37] <n8w> apparle:  that was the first thing ive tried....
[20:37] <n8w> apparle:  it executes s2disk,but it gets stock on "snapshotin system"
[20:38] <n8w> apparle:  the link ive sent u before contains the same guideline
[20:39] <vbgunz> n8w: if you can confirm your bios supports S3 for suspend to ram and you have it enabled, a bios update might solve it
[20:39] <n8w> vbgunz:  ye but listen man, everythin was workin on 9.4...
[20:40] <n8w> vbgunz:  since then i havent changed anythin
[20:40] <vbgunz> n8w: I hear you, I've personally gone into my bios maybe a dozen times since 9.4 so I am sort of thinking about how I manage my own pc
[20:41] <n8w> vbgunz:  ye ok:) it has been quite a while since some changes in bios took place in my case...
[20:42] <n8w> vbgunz:  all i need is a reliable hibernation....i dont even care about suspend to ram
[20:42] <vbgunz> n8w: for me suspending and hibernation are very important so I can relate
[20:45] <zus> i need help with kpackagekit please i get this http://pastebin.com/x2FCHAVg when i try to search for anything..
[20:46] <n8w> vbgunz:  btw what ppa do u use for kubuntu updates?
[20:47] <vbgunz> n8w: everything is official, the only ppa I have enabled is http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu
[20:47] <vbgunz> n8w: that delivers KDE 4.4.4 right now
[20:50] <n8w> vbgunz:  ok, im not gonna take 4.4.4:))
[20:51] <n8w> vbgunz:  i ended up with a black screen last time:)
[20:51] <vbgunz> n8w: haha, I can really understand your reason. I think it is stable but I've had my issues with being on the cutting edge.
[20:52] <n8w> vbgunz:  but its temptin:)
[20:53] <vbgunz> n8w: i think in the beginning with KDE 4 being such a moving target and things being brand new, there was room for a lot of error. but lately, I find KDE to really be rock solid and issues small
[20:54] <zus> i need help with kpackagekit please i get this http://pastebin.com/x2FCHAVg when i try to search for anything.. does anyone know what went wrong. and how to fix it
[20:54] <vbgunz> n8w: someone earlier kept recomming noapic, I think they kept referring it to you, it may be worth a try.
[20:54] <vbgunz> n8w: you sort of remember how to edit and update grub kernel options now right?
[20:54] <n8w> vbgunz:  ye i do;)
[20:55] <vbgunz> good stuff, you live and learn
[20:55] <vbgunz> one sec\
[20:55] <Zhenya> hi guys! I'm having major issues with trying to get dual monitors working on a thinkpad t41. Everything except a straight cloning with low resolution gets me garbled screen! Does anyone have any experience fixing this?
[20:55] <vbgunz> you might want to remove the pci=nomsi and maybe try booting up with noapic, anyhow, check this out for some stuff that might work out for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[20:55] <n8w> vbgunz:  aight i will take a look at it
[20:55] <vbgunz> n8w: scroll and breeze through kernel options
[20:56] <n8w> vbgunz:  thx a lot for your help man
[20:56] <vbgunz> n8w: thats community
[20:57] <n8w> vbgunz:  then im happy to b part of it,)
[20:57] <vbgunz> good stuff :)
[20:59] <Zhenya> anyone here that can lend their brain and help me with my display issues?
[21:10] <zus> is there anyone that can help with kpackagekit errors?
[21:11] <Bucky> hi. when my laptop goes in stand by and the screen goes black, i don't know how to reactivate it! simply touching the touchpad or hitting a key don't work
[21:11] <vbgunz> Bucky: what does the power button do?
[21:12] <Bucky> vbgunz: it partially reactivate the apps, but the screen continues to be black
[21:13] <vbgunz> Bucky: that seems to be a theme lately, can you switch to tty 1-6? if you know what that is?
[21:13] <Bucky> no, i don't know what youre talking about :-)
[21:14] <vbgunz> Bucky: are you on another computer? can you test this now?
[21:14] <vbgunz> Bucky: You use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6 to switch to tty 1 through 6 respectively
[21:14] <Bucky> i'm on the laptop which has the problem. after the issue i simply reboot with the power button
[21:15] <Bucky> what is tty* ?
[21:16] <vbgunz> heh, I am not even sure myself, I sort of just always refer to it as that. its 6 terminals though you have available to you by default with Kubuntu
[21:16] <vbgunz> say you can't get into your gui, terminals F1 through F6 are there to sort of help you do what needs to be done without a gui
[21:17] <Bucky> no the problem is different! i dont think i have problem with the gui, the screen simply doesnt turn on again!
[21:19] <Bucky> i wont see a terminal as well, i think
[21:19] <vbgunz> Bucky: not really too sure what the problem is, keep asking, hopefully someone could help you out. I thought your gui was failing
[21:21] <Bucky> dont you know when you touch the touchpad with your finger, or move the mouse to reactivate the screen? simply my laptop doesn't want to do!
[21:23] <vbgunz> Bucky: I don't own a notebook so I don't have much experience with their possible problems :(
[21:23] <Bucky> vbgunz: thanks for your attention anyway!
[21:23] <vbgunz> Bucky: real quick though, once your computer goes into standby, you can wake it up *but* the display doesn't power on, correct?
[21:24] <Bucky> yes, correct
[21:26] <vbgunz> Bucky: interested in your problem I saw that if you had effects enabled while your pc entered into standby there may be a chance of your display not coming back up. do you have effects enabled?
[21:26] <Kash-7> somebody know a good softphone to use in kubuntu ?
[21:27] <Bucky> vbgunz: yes, they are enabled
[21:27] <lycan> hey quassel is like xchat right???
[21:28] <vbgunz> Bucky: one sec, I am checking something out
[21:28] <Bucky> take your time!
[21:28] <lycan> quassel=xchat?
[21:28] <vbgunz> Bucky: have you seen this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3825488&postcount=2
[21:29] <vbgunz> Bucky: if you have questions, just ask
[21:29] <ybit> quick q, where in the compiz settings do you adjust the showing of the plasma desktop
[21:29] <ybit> right now, it it just dims what's on-screen
[21:29] <ybit> and then shows the plasma desktop stuff and i no likey
[21:30] <lycan> hey c'mon someone can answer me please?
[21:31] <vbgunz> lycan: quassel is an irc client
[21:31] <lycan> and xchat?
[21:31] <vbgunz> not sure, I never used it
[21:31] <lycan> ah ok thanks
[21:31] <vbgunz> lycan: googling xchat, well yeah, seems like the same thing
[21:32] <lycan> ah ok
[21:32] <lycan> thanks
[21:33] <Bucky> vbgunz: the post reguards ubuntu+nvidia, i use kubuntu+ATI. however i'll try to uncomment some lines
[21:33] <vbgunz> Bucky: Backup your stuff
[21:33] <vbgunz> Bucky: just ask if you need help doing some stuff
[21:37] <Bucky> ok, next time i'll ibernate, i'll let you know. thanks
[21:38] <vbgunz> Bucky: good luck!
[21:56] <Whammo> hi can anybody tell me how to purge screensavers?
[21:57] <Armi^2> evening all. Somehow sabnzbdplus is unable to update. Removing it gives me a error message Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[21:57] <Armi^2> I tried it with apt-get remove -f sabnzbdplus, but did didnt work
[21:57] <Armi^2> how can I remove it?
[21:58] <Whammo> Armi^2: have you looked to see if it is listed as installed via synaptic?
[21:59] <Whammo> does anybody know how to purge whatever silly code makes my screen go black if I don't move my mouse? I do not want or need this ever
[22:07] <avihay> is it a screensaver or entering powersave mode?
[22:17] <cac> hi world
[22:17] <cac> How can i find the repositories in kubuntu, this is new for me
[22:43] <luciano> \quit
[22:47] <n8w> anyone familiar with pm-utils
[22:47] <n8w> ?
[23:01] <MilitantPotato> I can't seem to find the powerdevil package
[23:05] <SpaceMan> I'm trying to install 10.04 but the 'prepare partitions' stage doesn't list any drives/partitions, there is a 300GB drive attached via a pci sata card
[23:05] <Torch> MilitantPotato: it's part of kdebase-workspace
[23:05] <SpaceMan> how can I show this drive in the install stage?
[23:06] <MilitantPotato> Torch: Any idea why it's not loading during startup?
[23:06] <Torch> MilitantPotato: do you get an error message? or what's the problem?
[23:07] <MilitantPotato> Battery Monitor complains that it's not running
[23:07] <Torch> MilitantPotato: powerdevil is a kded-module. you can check which modules run in system settings in the kded configuration
[23:08] <Torch> MilitantPotato: advanced -> service manager
[23:08] <Torch> MilitantPotato: should be in the list of startup services. and should be checked.
[23:08] <MilitantPotato> Torch: Service manager complains that KDED it's unable to contact KDED
[23:09] <Torch> MilitantPotato: ah, so that's the root of the problem... hmm.
[23:10] <MilitantPotato> sudo kded returns "Aborted"
[23:10] <Torch> MilitantPotato: it runs as your user
[23:10] <Torch> MilitantPotato: no sudo
[23:10] <Torch> MilitantPotato: question is why it cannot start at login (as it should).
[23:10] <MilitantPotato> Same result, tried that first
[23:11] <Torch> MilitantPotato: run kdebugdialog and tick kded in the list of debug-outputting apps
[23:11] <Torch> MilitantPotato: then try again
[23:11] <Torch> MilitantPotato: hopefully you'll get more output
[23:11] <Torch> MilitantPotato: if yes, please pastebin it.
[23:12] <MilitantPotato> It was already checked.
[23:12] <Torch> MilitantPotato: hmm.
[23:13] <MilitantPotato> There was a complaint about unable to connect to an Ibus daemon from kdebugdialog
[23:13] <Torch> MilitantPotato: that's not important
[23:13] <MilitantPotato> Figured, but the devil's in the details (perfect pun yea?)
[23:14] <Torch> MilitantPotato: sorry, i think i'm not able to diagnose this further. you might try asking on #kde.
[23:14] <MilitantPotato> Where is kded run from?
[23:14] <Torch> MilitantPotato: i'm not really an expert on kde startup procedures, so i don't know. i could find out, but it'd still know too little to really help you.
[23:15] <MilitantPotato> No worries, thanks for the help reguardless
[23:20] <supermagnum> hello, can anyone help me with my toucshreen ?
[23:24] <ShadyEmo> :P
[23:25] <supermagnum> somehow, it is not deteced.. the hardware is there
[23:26] <supermagnum> i have tried to follow the instructions frm this page : http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F577257&ei=iYgFTLvgLpaUOMHEmYYF&usg=AFQjCNEy6kMuUuWuUHJNDqfM7upUj9pATQ
[23:26] <supermagnum> but that did not help.
[23:45] <ionut> does anyonw knows an alternative an alternative for the application write room (used on mac) ?
[23:48] <ganaya> Hi, how do you stop plasmoids snapping to grid?
[23:49] <Typos_King> ionut:    write room?
[23:50] <ionut> Typos_King: yes, i found pyroom , but i don't like it too much. do you know another?
[23:51] <Typos_King> I guess I dunno 'write room' :(
[23:51] <Typos_King> I mean, I don't even know what it's