[00:25] <arand> Could anyone confirm a FTBFS on current rhythmbox please?
[00:27] <robin0800> arand: I know banshee loads and crashes
[00:28] <arand> Fail to build from source, the crash on launch for RB is likely another issue...
[00:29] <robin0800> arand: yes probably
[00:30] <arand> Mind testing? (1. get source 2. pbuild it)
[00:32] <robin0800> arand: sorry I don't build any packages
[00:34] <arand> robin0800: Ah Fairynuff... (It's not hard once you do it ;-)
[00:37] <robin0800> arand: sure its not but I feel I don't have time to do that and try to just get debs'
[00:38] <arand> robin0800: Hehe, no tricking you into it.
[01:29] <arand> Goodies, that's rhythmbox all figured out, at least..
[08:38] <summers> i would like to announce a new ubuntu channel, #ubuntu-faggots, all are welcome to join
[08:51] <BUGabundo_remote> oh look,marshmallows \w/
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> " I will note that this will be the last feature update I intend to do for GStreamer packages on Fedora 12. As GStreamer updates are quite intrusive and can have unexpected consequences, I don’t like to push new packages into releases unless I run them myself and can easily debug them. So if you want up-to-date GStreamer packages, you will always have to run the latest Fedora release – or of course any non-released alpha, beta or 
[09:33] <BUGabundo_remote> "With today’s GStreamer update, you are able to watch WebM videos. That means you can enjoy Youtube with a stock Fedora 13."
[09:34] <BUGabundo_remote> no wonder I lost all gstreamer last weekend :\
[09:36] <DanaG> heh, and Fedora says they "don't recommend" doing dist-upgrades.
[09:36] <DanaG> One reason, among many, I prefer Ubuntu.
[11:00] <BUGabundo_remote> woot
[11:00] <BUGabundo_remote> kdelibs fixed
[11:00] <BUGabundo_remote> kmail lives once again
[11:06] <Ian_Corne> synaptic is quite powerful
[11:06] <Ian_Corne> it managed to repair my broken system
[11:06] <Ian_Corne> apt-get and aptitude and update-manager failed
[11:09] <BUGabundo_remote> wow
[11:09] <BUGabundo_remote> that's a 1st
[12:50] <oxymoron> May I ask, the Akonadi is it possible for it to MAYBE make it until Maverick stable release?
[13:08] <BUGabundo_remote> oxymoron: what do you mean?
[13:08] <BUGabundo_remote> is it supposed to go?
[13:09] <oxymoron> BUGabundo_remote: Nvm, I confused myself. They would be delayed for KDE 4.5, but its marginal between KDE 4.5 and Maverick release.
[16:47] <knittl> metacity working for everybody now?
[16:52] <knittl> kwin as a replacement sucks …
[17:52] <peks> test
[17:53] <BUGabundo_remote> pong
[18:01] <Sarvatt> niice, codec installer wanted to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (which I know is messed up), I press install thinking it actually got updated, then it removes half the desktop without even mentioning it or asking for confirmation :)
[18:02] <arand> Hmm, takeaway: stick to aptitude-cli, I guess?
[18:04] <BUGabundo_remote> broken here too
[18:04] <BUGabundo_remote> update a 1 h or so
[18:04] <BUGabundo_remote> gym time
[18:04] <BUGabundo_remote> bbl
[18:05] <Sarvatt> but I like bugs like that!
[18:06] <Sarvatt> oh, even funnier, it removed totem
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Well, doesn't that fix the issue of it not working?
[18:13] <ChogyDan> !daily
[18:35] <gbillings_> Is 10.10 Alpha out yet?
[18:35] <Pici> gbillings_: I believe that it was scheduled for Thursday.
[18:35] <Pici> !schedule
[18:37] <patdk-wk> heh? I thought it was getting changed to release on the 10th :)
[18:37] <patdk-wk> oh wait, it does
[18:37] <patdk-wk> heh, mistread the first number as the day :)
[18:39] <gbillings_> pici: thank you
[19:24] <dupondje> oh yea, firefox is BROOKEN :p
[19:25] <patdk-wk> fix it!
[19:25] <malnilion_> It is not firefox that breaks, it is only yourself /matrix
[19:33] <z0rt|work> ahaha
[19:55] <voyager1> que tal os va ubuntu?
[20:00] <knittl> dupondje: metacity again?
[20:12] <dupondje> knittl: seems so
[20:12] <knittl> me too :(
[20:12] <knittl> i installed kwin to have a workable environment
[20:12] <knittl> kwin sucks :D
[20:14] <dupondje> well there a fixed metacity packages
[20:14] <dupondje> in some ppa :P
[20:15] <knittl> they are older than the packages from apt
[20:15] <danbhmav> are you guys able to do much in maverick?  I keep losing window borders
[20:16] <knittl> danbhmav: same problem we have
[20:16] <danbhmav> i c
[20:16] <knittl> try to get fixed packages from the ppa, or use a different WM
[20:16] <danbhmav> do you know what ppa?
[20:17] <knittl> https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+packages
[20:17] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+packages
[20:17] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/metacity-common_2.30.1-1ubuntu1+fta1_all.deb
[20:17] <knittl> they worked for me, but after recent upgrades it doesn't work again
[20:17] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/metacity_2.30.1-1ubuntu1+fta1_amd64.deb
[20:17] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+files/metacity_2.30.1-1ubuntu1+fta1_i386.deb
[20:19] <danbhmav> 			thankyou!
[20:24] <dupondje> somebody feels trying to find out whats the real issue is in metacity ?
[20:24] <dupondje> I guess some dependency not up-to-date
[20:32] <knittl> how can i force a .deb to be installed (downgraded)?
[20:34] <knittl> ok, dpkg -i does that
[20:34] <knittl> great, metacity is back ♥♥
[21:17] <dupondje> hmmm
[21:17] <dupondje> metacity bug seems to be caused by something in gtk+
[21:30] <arand> dupondje: I though that bug was fixed in metacity with Bug #584287 and just pending approval?
[21:31] <dupondje> well the change in metacity is more a workaround
[21:31] <arand> dupondje: Oh, by the way I just poked #ubuntu-desktop about 30min before you joined :)
[21:32] <dupondje> héhé :P
[21:33] <arand> dupondje: Ah, ok, so the CSD in gtk is the real issue, and that's where it should be addressed?
[21:33] <dupondje> don't know if its the csd
[21:33] <dupondje> but its most likely gtk+ yea
[21:34] <arand> Well according to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/584287/comments/9 the CSD patch introduced it
[21:34] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:34] <BUGabundo> so what's breaking tonight?
[21:35] <arand> BUGabundo: metacity, still :)
[21:35]  * charlie-tca wonders why BUGabundo thinks anything would be breaking?
[21:35] <BUGabundo> arand: not affected
[21:35] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: it shouldn't! we aren't still on A1
[21:36] <dupondje> guys, somebody knows if there is a easy way to make a debian box build ubuntu packages ? :p
[21:36] <arand> Rhythmbox is fixed though \o/
[21:36] <charlie-tca> We hope to get to A1 soon, though
[21:36] <BUGabundo> usually breaks on A2, then on each freeze
[21:36] <charlie-tca> ;-)
[21:36] <BUGabundo> and finally all hell breaks lose on FF
[21:36] <arand> Yea, FF is the worst, if only there were no FF, ubuntu would be solid as a rock
[21:37] <BUGabundo> my currente bugs: desktopcouch, bash complition, codecs, muted sound on boot
[21:37] <BUGabundo> arand: +1
[21:37] <dupondje> bash_completion got fixed
[21:37] <knittl> bash completion is fixed
[21:37] <BUGabundo> not here
[21:37] <BUGabundo> and I just updated
[21:37] <BUGabundo> nothing related to it
[21:37] <BUGabundo> The following packages have been kept back:  libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio
[21:37] <BUGabundo> The following packages will be upgraded:  libdb4.8 python-apt update-notifier update-notifier-common
[21:38] <arand> Patch was reverted :/ (Why on earth was the syntax error not just fixed!?)
[21:39] <arand> BUGabundo: 1:1.1-3ubuntu4 ?
[21:39] <knittl> omgloll
[21:39] <BUGabundo> arand: too lazy to manually completer the package name :)
[21:39] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 1:1.1-3ubuntu4
[21:39] <BUGabundo> humm
[21:39] <BUGabundo> placebo?
[21:39] <BUGabundo> now looks ok
[21:40] <BUGabundo> but I don't recall seeing any packages related
[21:40] <arand> They snuck it in unseen.
[21:40] <BUGabundo> ok, one less
[21:40] <knittl> have fun guys, i'm off to bed
[21:40] <knittl> good night
[21:40] <arand> knittl: night
[21:40] <BUGabundo> my currente bugs: desktopcouch, codecs, muted sound on boot
[21:40] <knittl> hilight me in case CSD gets fixed
[21:41] <knittl> BUGabundo: muted sound seems to be a regression, i remember the bug from both karmic and lucid
[21:41] <BUGabundo> yeah, I talked to crimsun a week ago
[21:41] <BUGabundo> he said he had a new alsa branch
[21:41] <knittl> BUGabundo: alsamixer to change volume of master and speaker channels
[21:41] <BUGabundo> but not fixed
[21:41] <BUGabundo> need to ping him
[21:41] <knittl> ok, bye :)
[21:44] <BUGabundo> how great.... chromium is mad too :(
[21:45] <BUGabundo> $ ubuntu-bug couchdb-bin
[21:45] <BUGabundo> bah
[21:45] <BUGabundo> it traces :(
[21:45] <BUGabundo> bad apport
[21:46] <BUGabundo> /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apport/packaging_impl.py:93: DeprecationWarning: Attribute 'CurrentVer' of the 'apt_pkg.Package' object is deprecated, use 'current_ver' instead.  cur_ver = self._apt_pkg(package)._pkg.CurrentVer
[21:46] <BUGabundo> should I file that too?
[21:46] <BUGabundo> file with apport a bug on apport :S
[21:47] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/588478
[21:48] <BUGabundo> if anyone can reproduce with gwibber, please confirme it
[21:48] <BUGabundo> thanks
[21:50] <dupondje> BUGabundo: the apport issue seems easy :p
[21:50] <dupondje> fix it
[21:50] <dupondje> :P
[21:52] <BUGabundo> anyone else with chromium daily seeing artifacts?
[21:55] <BUGabundo> come on guys... don't leave me here hanging
[21:55] <BUGabundo> someone is using chromium, right?
[21:55] <dupondje> nop :)
[21:56]  * BUGabundo tries a temp profile $ chromium-browser --temp-profile
[21:57] <yofel> "artifacts" ?
[21:57] <BUGabundo> ok, that looks fine, clearing cache and restart
[21:58] <BUGabundo> humm still shows
[22:00] <arand> BUGabundo: gwibber... I'm on try 4 now, but so far it seems the same
[22:00] <BUGabundo> uploading screenshot yofel
[22:01] <BUGabundo> yofel: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot-1.png
[22:01] <BUGabundo> oh great
[22:01] <BUGabundo> now dropbox is dieing too
[22:01] <yofel> heh
[22:03] <BUGabundo> yofel: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1733
[22:03] <arand> BUGabundo: Confirm'd it
[22:04] <yofel> haha, I'll try it after updates are finished
[22:04] <BUGabundo> yofel: I can't reproduce on a clena profile
[22:27] <BUGabundo> rt @Dropbox: hi all - amazon s3 is currently having problems that may cause your dropbox to spin. we're told it should be resolved soon - sit tight!
[22:27] <BUGabundo> breakage day :!
[22:43] <dupondje> ok
[22:43] <dupondje> bug is not metacity
[22:43] <dupondje> but gtk+
[22:46] <arand> dupondje: Isn't it so that metacity will need some patching to get along with CSD, so that the initial break is inevitable and not a definite fault of GTK+ ?
[22:46]  * arand has no idea, but since fta did the patch there and all, he might know what he's doing...
[22:48] <dupondje> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48876588/gtk%2B2.0_2.21.0-1ubuntu1_2.21.0-1ubuntu2.diff.gz => search gdk_screen_get_default_colormap :p
[22:53] <arand> dupondje: So pretty much system->default should be switched back in there instead, you say?
[22:54] <dupondje> not that it should be switched back
[22:54] <dupondje> but there it goes wrong
[22:54] <dupondje> as with fta's patch, it never calls that function, and just uses system_default
[23:00] <allquixotic> The vmwgfx Gallium3D driver seems like it's nearing completion; it only needs some bugfixes to the 2d rendering. Are there plans to include it in Maverick? If we pull the right libdrm and mesa versions, Maverick could have full 2d + 3d acceleration in an Ubuntu guest in VMware Workstation and VMware Player.
[23:00] <allquixotic> I've been testing it with a custom-built 2.6.35-rc1 and the latest mesa 7.8 branch, and the 3d performance is amazing.
[23:05] <Daekdroom> allquixotic, mesa 7.8 doesn't have anything "lastest"
[23:07] <allquixotic> Daekdroom: the 7.8 branch of mesa has commits from 5 days ago. The mesa/7.8 git branch is not equivalent to the Mesa 7.8.1 tarball. Sorry for not specifying
[23:07] <allquixotic> more exactly, I'm using this: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/log/?h=7.8
[23:12] <BUGabundo> humm why is apport tagging my bugs as unity, when im running gnome !?
[23:12] <arand> BUGabundo: Got unity installed?
[23:13] <BUGabundo> ofc
[23:13] <arand> BUGabundo: In any case, report a bug about it ;)
[23:13] <BUGabundo> will do
[23:16] <BUGabundo> arand: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/588512
[23:16] <BUGabundo> now to file the one of the DeprecationWarning:
[23:17] <BUGabundo> humm apport or python?
[23:18] <arand> BUGabundo: How cute, it tagged your bug about it with unity :>
[23:18] <BUGabundo> orly :p
[23:23] <dupondje> hmz
[23:23] <dupondje> how can I add a bug to another package ?
[23:24] <dupondje> in launchpad :P
[23:24] <jpds> dupondje: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<packages>/+filebug?no-redirect ?
[23:24] <arand> dupondje: also affects distribution?
[23:25] <dupondje> arand: doesn't seem to work :s
[23:25] <dupondje> jpds: not a new bug, but add existing bug to another package
[23:25] <BUGabundo> dupondje: affects paclkage?
[23:25] <dupondje> BUGabundo: where do you see that ? :P
[23:26] <arand> dupondje: It should.
[23:26] <BUGabundo> sorry
[23:26] <BUGabundo> affects project
[23:26] <BUGabundo> Also affects distribution/package
[23:26] <BUGabundo> actually I'm wrong
[23:26] <BUGabundo> Also affects distribution
[23:26] <BUGabundo> is what you want dupondje
[23:27] <arand> dupondje: affects project for linking upstream and the like, affects distribuition for another ubuntu package
[23:27] <dupondje> ok found :D
[23:27] <dupondje> thx
[23:27] <arand> It took me a while before I had a good mental rule to figure that out..
[23:30] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/584287
[23:30] <dupondje> commented :p
[23:54] <arand> dupondje: Just so you know, fta did point out that dropping the CSD patch solved the problem back in comment #9 ;)