| ssk | how to add new drivers like ppp? i see that there are no modules for ppp connection using beagleboard. | 02:26 |
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| === hrw|gone is now known as hrw | ||
| hrw | morning | 08:09 |
| * cwillu yawns | 08:20 | |
| === ericm|ubuntu is now known as ericm | ||
| DanaG | ureadahead invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0xd0, order=0, oom_adj=0 | 08:27 |
| DanaG | nice. | 08:27 |
| ogra | what HW is that ? | 08:28 |
| DanaG | beagleboard. | 08:28 |
| ogra | board, disk type, ram etc | 08:28 |
| ogra | on SD card or USB key ? | 08:28 |
| ogra | and do you have swap ? | 08:28 |
| DanaG | Booted from 2GB SD card (that's 90% full), no swap. | 08:28 |
| ogra | graphical env or only cmdline ? | 08:29 |
| DanaG | oh, and: on host: hub 8-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 usb 8-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9 usb 8-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 | 08:29 |
| DanaG | Commmand line, with some extra stuff (such as deluge). | 08:29 |
| DanaG | Xorg is installed, but no display or login manager. | 08:29 |
| ogra | hmm, i havent seen a beagle hitting OOM in a cmdline env yet | 08:29 |
| ogra | is that a rev B ? | 08:29 |
| ogra | (128M) | 08:30 |
| DanaG | Nope, C4. | 08:30 |
| ogra | hmm, thats indeed very weird | 08:30 |
| DanaG | where's that ureadahead pack file? | 08:30 |
| ogra | man ureadahead tells you | 08:33 |
| DanaG | ah, I thought it was /var/lib/ureadahead/pack | 08:33 |
| DanaG | File doesn't exist. | 08:33 |
| ogra | though ureadahead should gracefully exit on Sd cards anyway | 08:33 |
| ogra | with code 5 iirc | 08:33 |
| DanaG | argh, tried to load g_audio, and got screenfuls of panic. | 08:35 |
| ogra | g_audio ? isnt that OTG stuff ? | 08:36 |
| DanaG | yeah. | 08:36 |
| ogra | OTG is broken in the kernel still | 08:36 |
| DanaG | I hope we'll get musb built-in but all the modules... modular. | 08:37 |
| ogra | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/566645 | 08:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 566645 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "OTG configuration is broken on omap kernel (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed] | 08:37 |
| DanaG | So then I can choose to use g_audio instead of g_ether, or such. | 08:37 |
| DanaG | It also rather oddly hangs lsusb on the host. | 08:37 |
| ogra | basically we dont have musb atm | 08:37 |
| DanaG | I wonder why it doesn't work as a module. | 08:39 |
| ogra | i think it didnt work compiled in either | 08:41 |
| ogra | amitk would know, he ported the patch back then | 08:41 |
| amitk | no porting involved, it was the state of musb in 2.6.33 | 08:42 |
| ogra | cooloney, can you make sure that our omap4 kernel has the same config for udebs as the omap3 one ? i think the files under debian.ti-omap/d-i/modules/ rule that, probably you can just copy them over | 08:42 |
| cooloney | ogra: the d-i files in omap4 was copied from omap3 debian.ti-omap/d-i/modules/ | 08:45 |
| cooloney | ogra: they are the same, i never change that. | 08:46 |
| ogra | they recently changed :) | 08:46 |
| ogra | i just checked the nic-usb-modules package yesterday and its missing the same modules the omap3 one did | 08:47 |
| ogra | mathieu added a fix afaik it was accepted to the tree already | 08:48 |
| amitk | ... and that is why we are moving to a unified debian tree. That will be sync'ed across all branches, all releases. | 08:50 |
| cooloney | ogra: oh yeah, i noticed that. will check it later. maybe just apply mathieu's patch | 08:53 |
| ogra | that should be fine | 08:53 |
| DanaG | also weird: cnetworkmanager --syscon doesn't list the wireless connection I stuck in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ | 08:55 |
| DanaG | And it also ignores my "Wired Network" connection by that name, and instead creates an "Auto eth0". | 08:57 |
| DanaG | I've never managed to get headless NetworkManager to work well. | 09:03 |
| === XorA|gone is now known as XorA | ||
| Laibsch | Hi everyone | 09:52 |
| XorA | hey Laibsch | 09:53 |
| Laibsch | XorA! | 09:53 |
| XorA | Laibsch: joining the ubuntu party? | 09:53 |
| Laibsch | I'm a bit surprised to find you here | 09:53 |
| Laibsch | I think I probably was here earlier than you ;-) | 09:53 |
| Laibsch | But probably not as active | 09:53 |
| Laibsch | I always you'd never budge from being a staunch Debian user and Ubuntu-loather | 09:54 |
| Laibsch | Good to see you here | 09:54 |
| * XorA is paid to be here :-D | 09:54 | |
| Laibsch | are you? | 09:54 |
| * XorA is a fedora user | 09:54 | |
| Laibsch | more power to you | 09:54 |
| Laibsch | they should only hire people that at least have a Ubuntu tattoo to show their commitment | 09:55 |
| Laibsch | anything less makes no sense ;-) | 09:55 |
| XorA | hehe | 09:55 |
| XorA | that might be why at UDS they kept trying to get me intot the "dark" room :-D | 09:55 |
| Laibsch | probably | 09:55 |
| * XorA is on contract with TI which is working on ubuntu stuff | 09:55 | |
| Laibsch | I see | 09:56 |
| lool | XorA: Are you based in Nice? | 09:56 |
| XorA | lool: Scotland :-D | 09:56 |
| lool | Didn't know TI had a Scotland office | 09:56 |
| * XorA has been in Nice | 09:56 | |
| XorA | lool: they dont, I contract | 09:57 |
| lool | XorA: Well too bad we failed meeting at UDS then, I dont think I had the chance to chat with you, or if I did I failed I associated name and face | 09:57 |
| * XorA is actually based in Dallas office | 09:57 | |
| neure | anyone used http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#NetInstall_Method ? | 09:57 |
| neure | i get a kernel panic on boot :/ | 09:57 |
| lool | Oh you're based in Dallas, then I might see who you are | 09:57 |
| XorA | lool: I was hanging with the TI dudes mostly, you would have found me in Xorg and ALSA talks | 09:57 |
| Laibsch | lool: XorA is also one of the OE crowd | 09:58 |
| amitk | XorA: not everyone is perfect, I hope you don't miss the bus to salvation ;-p | 09:58 |
| amitk | (just kidding) | 09:58 |
| Laibsch | hurry, doors are closing ;-) | 09:58 |
| * Laibsch hears that all the time | 09:58 | |
| neure | http://www.pastie.org/986954 | 09:58 |
| neure | any suggestions? | 09:58 |
| Laibsch | actually it's "please don't hurry or rush, doors are closing" ;) | 09:58 |
| XorA | amitk: hehe, Im too old for distro wars | 09:59 |
| hrw | amitk: better not start - he will try to move you from ubuntu to angstrom | 10:01 |
| amitk | hrw: I've used OE before for the Zaurus 5500 | 10:02 |
| Laibsch | doesn't the Z predate OE? | 10:02 |
| * XorA still has a 5500 | 10:02 | |
| * Laibsch too | 10:02 | |
| * amitk too | 10:02 | |
| XorA | where is the ubuntu port? | 10:02 |
| Laibsch | not more than one meter away ;-) | 10:02 |
| Laibsch | XorA: working on it ;-) | 10:03 |
| Laibsch | but probably impossible | 10:03 |
| hrw | Laibsch: no, OE was made as replacement for OpenZaurus build system | 10:03 |
| Laibsch | hrw: yes, I know | 10:03 |
| neure | amitk, did you have some preinstalled image of ubuntu somewhere? | 10:03 |
| * hrw does not have 5500 - donated to 2.6 hacker | 10:03 | |
| ogra_cmpc | there is a jaunty port for the zaurus somewhere | 10:03 |
| XorA | Laibsch: if I knew how to rebuild full ubuntu easilly it would be real easy to do an armv4 port | 10:03 |
| Laibsch | hrw: therefore the Z was there before OE | 10:03 |
| DanaG | yeah, and it failed miserably last time I tried one. | 10:03 |
| XorA | Laibsch: I just need a build farm | 10:03 |
| DanaG | Kernel didn't have ucb1x00_ts enabled, or such. | 10:03 |
| hrw | Laibsch: ah yes... | 10:04 |
| amitk | neure: preinstall image? Not for Lucid. We will have preinstalled images for Maverick though. | 10:04 |
| neure | :/ | 10:04 |
| neure | anything that i could try? | 10:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | neure, that netinst image uses a kernel from rcn-ee, wait for him to be around | 10:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | oh i lied, its hardy that was ported to the zaurus | 10:06 |
| ogra_cmpc | http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry081030-074514 | 10:06 |
| === ericm is now known as ericm-afk | ||
| amitk | neure: did you try with a different usb-ethernet adapter? | 10:06 |
| ogra_cmpc | use an asix or pegasus based one | 10:07 |
| neure | amitk, no, i dont think i have one | 10:07 |
| neure | i could perhaps get the apple one | 10:07 |
| neure | is it known to work? | 10:07 |
| ogra_cmpc | also did you file a bug aboout your partitioning error ? | 10:07 |
| neure | no, i didnt | 10:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | its very likely that you will hit it again even with a netinstall | 10:08 |
| neure | maybe | 10:08 |
| neure | if i do i can try to file a report | 10:08 |
| neure | but its just 'doesnt work' | 10:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, thats not a proper erro description we accept here :) | 10:08 |
| neure | hmm | 10:09 |
| neure | i have bootargs=vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:800x600-16@60 console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait | 10:09 |
| neure | i wonder what i should have in order to use this rcn-ee thing | 10:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | no idea | 10:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | rootwait is definately wrong for the official images | 10:10 |
| neure | what does it mean? | 10:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | but you might need it in rcn"s | 10:11 |
| hrw | makes kernel wait for rootfs device to appear | 10:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | it means to wait for the rootfs device until it shows up | 10:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | since ubuntu always uses an initramfs in the official images thats not needed | 10:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | we also boot in ro mode by default | 10:12 |
| ogra_cmpc | because mountall remounts rw after fsck | 10:12 |
| neure | hmm | 10:13 |
| lool | mattman wrote me that he managed to boot to a console using our ti-omap kernel + qemu-maemo! :-) | 10:14 |
| Laibsch | XorA: lool shared with me a couple of blueprints discussed at UDS: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-m?searchtext=arm- | 10:14 |
| Laibsch | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-cross-compilers looks like something you and I may be interested in | 10:15 |
| neure | if i have this 16GB mmc card inserted, i get this: http://www.pastie.org/986970 | 10:15 |
| neure | is something wrong? | 10:15 |
| XorA | lool: have you been to Nice BTW? | 10:16 |
| neure | if i dont have it in there, i get http://www.pastie.org/986971 | 10:16 |
| lool | XorA: I came to visit, yes | 10:16 |
| Laibsch | XorA: Ubuntu on ARM is still very young and evolving, so I have a hard time (and not enough of it)to keep up with the status | 10:16 |
| lool | For a couple of days only | 10:16 |
| lool | I wouldn't mind going back :-) | 10:16 |
| lool | it's an easy ride | 10:16 |
| XorA | lool: same meeting as persia jumped out of hotel? | 10:16 |
| lool | haha yes | 10:16 |
| XorA | lool: you met me then | 10:16 |
| lool | I was his translator in the hospital :-) | 10:16 |
| lool | XorA: I missed the morning meeting, but I think I saw you Monday afternoon | 10:17 |
| lool | XorA: I am the guy who talked about cross-compilation | 10:17 |
| XorA | lool: I was all in black wearing New Rocks | 10:17 |
| XorA | lool: from weds onwards I had my nails painted | 10:17 |
| ogra | Laibsch, i wouldnt call 1.5 years "young" :) | 10:17 |
| Laibsch | I would ;-) | 10:18 |
| lool | XorA: I only stayed until Tuesday evening I'm afraid | 10:18 |
| lool | I missed the fingernails | 10:18 |
| ogra | lool, he had them painted at UDS too | 10:18 |
| neure | could it be that there is an issue with the sdcard? | 10:18 |
| neure | could that be causing issues for server installer? | 10:19 |
| * XorA should get his hair hot pink to make it wasier to spot :-D | 10:19 | |
| hrw | I remember how someone asked me 'why XorA paints his fingernails' ;d | 10:19 |
| ogra | neure, your paste shows that you dont have a second partition | 10:19 |
| neure | ogra, that is correct | 10:20 |
| hrw | libnih - for all those with NIH problem? | 10:20 |
| ogra | hrw, yeah *g* | 10:20 |
| XorA | hrw: your answer? | 10:20 |
| neure | ogra, that is sdcard with ubuntu installer on it, created by script by rcn-ee.. | 10:20 |
| ogra | neure, then how do you expect it to boot from mmcblk0p2 ? | 10:20 |
| hrw | XorA: because he can | 10:20 |
| neure | well he doesnt tell what i should have as bootargs :( | 10:21 |
| XorA | hrw: nice catch :-D | 10:21 |
| hrw | XorA: I do not care how people look as long as they are fine with it | 10:21 |
| neure | i tried to change it to p1 but that didnt help | 10:21 |
| XorA | hrw: this is why I like working in linux, in the windows world I would always be the freak | 10:22 |
| * XorA isnt good with suits | 10:22 | |
| ogra | neure, for netinstall you dont set root= | 10:22 |
| ogra | it needs to load the initrd as rootfs | 10:22 |
| neure | ogra, http://www.pastie.org/986979 -- without root | 10:24 |
| ogra | how did you load the initrd ? | 10:24 |
| neure | i dont know... | 10:24 |
| amitk | :) | 10:25 |
| neure | http://www.pastie.org/986986 | 10:26 |
| neure | like this | 10:26 |
| neure | bootcmd=mmc init;fatload mmc 0 80300000 uImage;bootm 80300000 | 10:28 |
| neure | thats my bootcmd i wonder if thats ok? | 10:28 |
| ogra | thats definately not right | 10:28 |
| neure | great | 10:28 |
| ogra | wait for rcn-ee | 10:28 |
| neure | what should it be?) | 10:28 |
| ogra | i guess he has a boot.scr file somewhere | 10:28 |
| ogra | i have no clue about the unofficial images | 10:29 |
| neure | lunch | 10:35 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, what's the problem? | 10:36 |
| ogra | asac, x-loader and u-boot with XM support are in maverick now | 10:49 |
| lool | ogra: Cool | 10:50 |
| * ogra ponders about the x-loader-omap4 versioning | 10:50 | |
| ogra | lool, i have x-loader-omap4-L24.6-p1git20100520 what would you do with the L ? | 10:51 |
| ogra | (its TI versioning for the omap4 branches, u-boot has that too) | 10:51 |
| ogra | i'm inclined to just ignore th elintian warning, but we'll get probs if we ever have a unified x-loader package (not that i expect that to happen) | 10:52 |
| lool | ogra: the L? | 10:53 |
| ogra | -L24.6-p1git20100520 | 10:53 |
| ogra | is the version | 10:53 |
| ogra | L24.6-p1 is what TI calls the release | 10:53 |
| lool | It shouldn't be a problem for pdkg | 10:53 |
| lool | dpkg | 10:53 |
| lool | You can have as many dashes as you like | 10:54 |
| ogra | well, usually x-loader is 1.1.4 or some such | 10:54 |
| lool | It would be good to understand how they relate | 10:54 |
| lool | Is it a 1.1.4 + patches? | 10:54 |
| ogra | if we get a unified u-boot or x-loader package we'll struggle with the versions | 10:54 |
| lool | ogra: I understand x-loader is a TI only project, so eventually everything will go upstream, right? | 10:55 |
| ogra | i think its based on 1.1.4 but TI always uses L (for linux) 2.6 (kernel main version) -p* published version | 10:55 |
| ogra | x-loader will even vanish soon and just become a binary header to u-boot.bimn | 10:55 |
| ogra | *bin | 10:55 |
| ogra | but still, the u-boot-omap4 version has the same issue | 10:56 |
| ogra | i'd actually like to use their versioning, but once jcrigby is done and we have a unified numeric version it will force an epoch | 10:56 |
| lool | ogra: If you're taking full tarballs from them, make sure the origin is reflected in the source package name and use their versions | 10:56 |
| ogra | at least for conflict/replacing the binary versions | 10:57 |
| lool | Well we could use different binary package names and provide an upgrade path | 10:57 |
| ogra | i expect jcrigby's work to result in a u-boot source but u-boot-omap3 and omap4 binary packages | 10:57 |
| ogra | hmm | 10:57 |
| ogra | indeed, that would work | 10:57 |
| ogra | ok, i'll keep the original TI versioning | 10:58 |
| ogra | lool, thanks | 10:58 |
| ogra | (effectively it doesnt matter anyway, i dont think anyone will actually use the binaires directly, they are for the image build system) | 10:59 |
| asac | ogra: flash-kernel on omap is kinda destructive | 11:00 |
| ogra | asac, yes, that'll change for maverick | 11:00 |
| asac | why dont you use the defaults that are in the uboot source? | 11:00 |
| asac | that looks really generic and good enough | 11:00 |
| ogra | asac, because upstream u-boot has no concept for an initrd | 11:01 |
| ogra | and we cant use boot.scr if we use NAND | 11:01 |
| ogra | maverick will change that completely | 11:01 |
| hrw | re | 11:02 |
| asac | ogra: hmm. we cant use boot.scr if we use nand? why is that? | 11:02 |
| ogra | because boot.scr only works from vfat | 11:02 |
| asac | the default that is in uboot seems to do the right thing .. checks if sdcard is there | 11:02 |
| ogra | right | 11:02 |
| asac | otherwise uses nandboot | 11:02 |
| ogra | but has no concept of initrd at all | 11:03 |
| ogra | anyway, lucid is done | 11:03 |
| asac | well. thats simple to add imo | 11:03 |
| ogra | maverick will change the whole concept | 11:03 |
| asac | ogra: right. problem is that once you install lucid you cant install anything else anymore ... | 11:03 |
| ogra | since we ship our own u-boot now | 11:03 |
| ogra | you can update the setup | 11:03 |
| ogra | i'll take care for that | 11:03 |
| asac | ah you didnt ship your own uboot | 11:04 |
| asac | kk | 11:04 |
| ogra | if you have a better concept, feel free to do an SRU | 11:04 |
| asac | my image has that | 11:04 |
| asac | thats the problem then | 11:04 |
| asac | all fine | 11:04 |
| ogra | oki | 11:04 |
| ogra | time was to short in lucid to change the whole image build system | 11:04 |
| ogra | which is why i relied on NAND | 11:05 |
| ogra | asac, btw, any final word on the naming discussion? | 11:05 |
| ogra | :) | 11:05 |
| ogra | i'll start with the tool this afternoon | 11:06 |
| ogra | (after the mobile meeting) | 11:06 |
| asac | ogra: remind me about what naming discussion that is ;) | 11:09 |
| ogra | asac, casper :) | 11:09 |
| ogra | see the spec whiteboard | 11:10 |
| asac | heh | 11:10 |
| asac | ogra: EDONTCARE ;) | 11:10 |
| ogra | ok | 11:10 |
| asac | let me see whats going on on whiteboard | 11:10 |
| * asac didnt intent do raise a long discussion | 11:10 | |
| ogra | btw, i didnt bother to rename the specs since th eteam will likely be renamed soon | 11:10 |
| ogra | and i didnt want to do the renaming twice | 11:11 |
| asac | ogra: well. but it was tough to find | 11:11 |
| asac | ogra: can you paste the url again ;) | 11:11 |
| asac | i wont be able to find it | 11:11 |
| ogra | yeah, agreed | 11:11 |
| ogra | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/preinstalled-sd-card-images-for-omap | 11:11 |
| ogra | hrm, no NCommander | 11:13 |
| ogra | he had a task to care for libnih before the meeting | 11:14 |
| ogra | oh, now upstart failed completely ... no wonder i dont find libnih on the ftbfs list :P | 11:15 |
| ogra | hmm, funny, i dont see any recent upload | 11:16 |
| Laibsch | How does one start to build Ubuntu for ARM from scratch? | 11:17 |
| Laibsch | I thought about starting from Jaunty and then recompiling packages | 11:17 |
| Laibsch | But Jaunty requires armv5t | 11:17 |
| * ogra wonders why you would recompile | 11:18 | |
| Laibsch | I was wondering how to inflict a lot of pain on myself and base it off armv4 | 11:18 |
| hrw | Laibsch: you have armv4t? | 11:18 |
| ogra | aww | 11:18 |
| hrw | Laibsch: armv4? strongarm? | 11:18 |
| Laibsch | XorA seemed to be interested in it | 11:18 |
| Laibsch | this is as much about getting binaries as it is about learning the steps | 11:18 |
| ogra | iirc there was a spec about rebuilding the whole distro for other arm versions | 11:19 |
| lool | Laibsch: The way mojo did it and which is proven to work is to rebuild the archive multiple times against itself | 11:19 |
| ogra | not sure where it went though | 11:19 |
| hrw | Laibsch: grab as fast arm buildd as possible, install ubuntu and do rebuilds for armv4/eabi? nightmare task | 11:19 |
| Laibsch | lool: take Jaunty and rebuild the toolchain packages, then reiterate? | 11:19 |
| Laibsch | I see | 11:20 |
| lool | Laibsch: Take whatever Ubuntu version, change the toolchain, rebuild the modified archive against itself, rebuild again and again | 11:20 |
| Laibsch | Maybe sticking with armv5t is a better idea then (probably plenty of pain as is ;-)) | 11:20 |
| lool | I'd recommend taking the latest version of Ubuntu | 11:20 |
| lool | (for rebuilds) | 11:20 |
| Laibsch | OK | 11:20 |
| ogra | or get some more recent HW :) | 11:20 |
| ogra | money seems the easiest solution for your prob | 11:21 |
| Laibsch | Where is the armv7 vs. armv5t vs. armv4 switch? | 11:21 |
| Laibsch | ogra: you don't seem to understand my prob | 11:21 |
| ogra | jaunty v5, karmic v6, lucid v7 | 11:21 |
| Laibsch | I don't have a particular prob | 11:21 |
| ogra | the switch is done in the compiler defaults iirc | 11:22 |
| Laibsch | ogra: See my comment 19:18:49 | 11:22 |
| Laibsch | ogra: thanks | 11:22 |
| Laibsch | XorA: ^^^ | 11:22 |
| Laibsch | lool: Is there a way to find out if the numbers of compile iterations have been sufficient or not? | 11:43 |
| Laibsch | debdiff $deb1 $deb2? | 11:44 |
| Laibsch | or something like that? | 11:44 |
| neure | back | 12:03 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, i am having hard time installing ubuntu on my beagleboard C2 | 12:04 |
| cwillu_at_work | can you be more specific? :) | 12:04 |
| cwillu_at_work | are you using rootstock? | 12:04 |
| neure | no... 1) installer doesnt recognize my moschip network usb to etherner adapter | 12:04 |
| ogra | 'doesnt work' | 12:04 |
| ogra | :P | 12:04 |
| neure | 2) server installer fails to format usb stick | 12:04 |
| cwillu_at_work | you should use rootstock :D | 12:05 |
| neure | i guess so then | 12:05 |
| neure | im trying to figure out how to boot http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu | 12:05 |
| neure | but i dont know what boot environment variables it needs | 12:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | which, the kernel, or u-boot? | 12:06 |
| neure | any | 12:06 |
| cwillu_at_work | c2 will have a pretty old u-boot, but it should still boot fine | 12:06 |
| neure | should i upgrade? | 12:06 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, have you done ./setup_sdcard.sh --mmc /dev/sdX --uboot beagle? | 12:06 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, yes | 12:06 |
| cwillu_at_work | and you booted with the user button held down? | 12:07 |
| neure | yes | 12:07 |
| cwillu_at_work | you have a serial line hooked up? | 12:07 |
| neure | yes | 12:07 |
| neure | i can see kernel booting | 12:07 |
| neure | but then it fails to figure out where is root | 12:07 |
| cwillu_at_work | what's the kernel panic? | 12:07 |
| ogra | cwillu_at_work, iirc his u-boot doesnt load boot.scr | 12:07 |
| ogra | by default | 12:07 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, boot up, and pull up the u-boot prompt over serial | 12:08 |
| neure | if i have some root= in boot args, it fails to mount that | 12:08 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, tell me what the bootargs are set to | 12:08 |
| neure | bootargs=vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:800x600-16@60 console=ttyS2,115200n8 | 12:08 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, and the card mounts fine on a desktop, and you properly unmounted it? | 12:08 |
| neure | bootcmd=mmc init;fatload mmc 0 80300000 uImage;bootm 80300000 | 12:08 |
| neure | yes | 12:09 |
| neure | the card has only one partition | 12:09 |
| neure | boot fails it says it cant find init | 12:09 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, you'll need "rootwait root=/..." in bootargs | 12:09 |
| neure | root= what? | 12:09 |
| cwillu_at_work | root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 | 12:09 |
| ndec | ogra: hi | 12:09 |
| neure | iirc i tried it | 12:09 |
| ogra | ndec, hey | 12:09 |
| neure | let me try again | 12:09 |
| cwillu_at_work | or mmcblk0p2 if it's a second partition | 12:09 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, you had rootwait as well? | 12:09 |
| neure | yes | 12:10 |
| neure | let me try and get you the message | 12:10 |
| ndec | ogra: if I want to get automatic login on the console by default, what's the easiest way? | 12:10 |
| ogra | ndec, i think asac has a script for that | 12:10 |
| ndec | ogra: I don't need root login, so any user is okay | 12:10 |
| ogra | though thats rootlogin by default | 12:10 |
| ndec | ogra: that's okay too... | 12:10 |
| ogra | asac, ?? ^^^ | 12:11 |
| cwillu_at_work | ndec, /etc/init/tty1.conf sets up the login prompt on tty1 | 12:11 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, i get [ 24.414520] Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. | 12:11 |
| cwillu_at_work | o_O | 12:12 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, try init=/bin/bash | 12:12 |
| cwillu_at_work | oh, wait | 12:12 |
| cwillu_at_work | one sec | 12:12 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, your rootstock failed probably | 12:12 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, which qemu packages did you isntall? | 12:12 |
| ndec | cwillu_at_work: but i want autologin. i have automatic tests that reboot the board and run afterwards, so I need to make sure that I can autologin | 12:13 |
| neure | i didnt | 12:13 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, i used http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu | 12:13 |
| cwillu_at_work | ndec, that's nice. | 12:13 |
| ndec | cwillu_at_work: what is nice? | 12:13 |
| cwillu_at_work | ndec, it's almost like I was giving you exact hint you need, and you missed it ;) | 12:13 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, install qemu-kvm-extras-static, and rerun rootstock and remake the card | 12:15 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, i was trying "NetInstall Method" on that page | 12:15 |
| neure | i havent run rootstock at all | 12:15 |
| neure | how much rootstock needs diskspace? | 12:16 |
| neure | i dont have much on my vmware :/ | 12:16 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, it needs about as much room as the final image size | 12:16 |
| asac | ndec: we have a package for that ... | 12:17 |
| neure | so 1 GB should be enough? | 12:17 |
| cwillu_at_work | re: net install, I presume you got to the part where it said "If boot fails... upgrade x-loader and u-boot ... and clean u-boot environment vars"? | 12:17 |
| neure | E: Couldn't find package qemu-kvm-extras-static | 12:17 |
| cwillu_at_work | and ignored it, given that you asked if you should update u-boot? | 12:17 |
| ndec | asac: which package? | 12:17 |
| neure | im running ubuntu 9 something in my vmware | 12:17 |
| asac | ndec: see msg | 12:17 |
| asac | ndec: you want autologin serial console? | 12:18 |
| asac | as root? | 12:18 |
| asac | or autologin virtual terminal? | 12:18 |
| ndec | asac: root or not, don't care. | 12:18 |
| asac | the package isnt published yet (reason see msg) | 12:18 |
| cwillu_at_work | asac, come on, it's a one line change to /etc/init/tty1.conf :p | 12:18 |
| asac | ndec: serial or virtual terminal? | 12:18 |
| asac | cwillu_at_work: yes, its a one line change, or some magic ;) | 12:19 |
| asac | we opted in to magic | 12:19 |
| cwillu_at_work | ugh | 12:19 |
| cwillu_at_work | bad asac, BAD. | 12:19 |
| asac | as you cannot change .conf files | 12:19 |
| asac | in a package | 12:19 |
| cwillu_at_work | _why_ does it need to be a package? | 12:19 |
| ndec | asac: serial | 12:19 |
| asac | ndec: do you need a package or can i just give you the files? | 12:20 |
| ogra | cwillu_at_work, because this is ubuntu :) | 12:20 |
| cwillu_at_work | ogra, "if dkms is madness, _this_ is sparta" | 12:20 |
| ndec | asac: whatever is simpler for you... honestly I just need the 1-line change ;-) | 12:20 |
| ogra | cwillu_at_work, why would dkms be madness ? we use it all over the distro | 12:21 |
| cwillu_at_work | ogra, it was an excuse to use a good quote :p | 12:21 |
| ogra | heh | 12:21 |
| cwillu_at_work | asac, agra, repeat after me: "apt is not a global control panel" | 12:21 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, will rootstock make installer image or what? | 12:21 |
| asac | ndec: cool. then just take that change for now ;) | 12:21 |
| asac | ndec: and wait for the magic to pop up on a tree ;) | 12:22 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, rootstock makes the final installed image, you just need to dump it onto a card and boot | 12:22 |
| neure | :/ | 12:22 |
| ndec | asac: but I don't have the 1-line for now... | 12:22 |
| neure | i have 16GB sdcard | 12:22 |
| neure | so i would need 16GB free in my vmware | 12:22 |
| neure | which i dont have :/ | 12:22 |
| cwillu_at_work | hardly | 12:22 |
| neure | hardly? | 12:22 |
| cwillu_at_work | you only need the tarball, which will be 600mb or so | 12:22 |
| cwillu_at_work | then you just write it out to the sd card like it was any other hard drive | 12:23 |
| cwillu_at_work | mk_mmc and company does exactly that | 12:23 |
| neure | ok so it might work even with ~2GB free to make 16GB image? | 12:23 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, exactly, because you're not actually making a 16GB image | 12:23 |
| neure | well it starts by "I: Creating temporary Image" so i was worried.. :P | 12:24 |
| cwillu_at_work | it just needs to be big enough to actually complete the install, the final size of the card doesn't matter | 12:24 |
| neure | i'll give it a try | 12:24 |
| * cwillu_at_work cringes at the thought of running rootstock (which uses a vm internally) under vmware | 12:25 | |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, hmm | 12:25 |
| cwillu_at_work | you know, you could actually use one of the prebuilt images on the same page I bet | 12:25 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, is there such? | 12:25 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, brief tangent: when reading technical documentation other than reference material (which that link isn't), it's usually a good idea to read the whole thing once through before actually attempting to follow the instructions | 12:26 |
| cwillu_at_work | the instructions to use a prebuilt image is the first thing after the table of contents :p | 12:27 |
| neure | the demo image in the beginning is 2G | 12:27 |
| neure | my sdcard is 16 | 12:27 |
| cwillu_at_work | doesn't matter | 12:27 |
| neure | and i need the space | 12:27 |
| cwillu_at_work | your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired :) | 12:27 |
| cwillu_at_work | first, the rebuilt images are tarballs, which are like zip archives | 12:28 |
| neure | ah | 12:28 |
| neure | so --imagesize 2G has very little no no meaning at all? | 12:28 |
| cwillu_at_work | pretty much | 12:28 |
| neure | ok i will try | 12:28 |
| neure | or well | 12:29 |
| cwillu_at_work | it's used for the internal virtual machine during install, and rootstock can (and does by default I think?) give a raw image of that size (the end result of the virtual machine) | 12:29 |
| cwillu_at_work | but a tarball is generally more useful for a few reasons | 12:29 |
| ogra | --imagesize 2G is important for building | 12:29 |
| ogra | has nothing to do with the target SD | 12:29 |
| neure | ok | 12:29 |
| neure | 5 min to download the image :) | 12:30 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, how about bootargs for the demo image? | 12:33 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, the args I gave you before should work | 12:33 |
| cwillu_at_work | root=/dev/mmcblk0p1, etc | 12:33 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, there should be a boot.scr that setup_sdcard.sh makes | 12:34 |
| === ericm-afk is now known as ericm | ||
| neure | got the image now.. | 12:35 |
| neure | we'll find out soon | 12:36 |
| neure | running setup script... | 12:37 |
| neure | how much diskspace is in use by the prebuilt demo image? | 12:47 |
| neure | it's taking a quite a long time to populate rootfs... | 12:47 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, not sure; less than 2gb | 12:50 |
| neure | df is reporting 474404 as Used currently | 12:50 |
| cwillu_at_work | df -h is nice | 12:51 |
| neure | hmm | 12:51 |
| neure | the script finished now | 12:52 |
| neure | now booting | 12:53 |
| neure | [ 24.510650] Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. | 12:53 |
| neure | so.. the same error, basically | 12:54 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, if you mount that sd card, is there a ./sbin/init? | 12:54 |
| neure | yes | 12:56 |
| cwillu_at_work | what partitions are there? | 12:56 |
| cwillu_at_work | ls /dev/sd* | 12:56 |
| cwillu_at_work | and cross reference to whichever you mounted | 12:56 |
| neure | /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde | 12:56 |
| neure | /dev/sdb2 on /media/sdcard2 type ext3 (rw) | 12:57 |
| neure | /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdcard1 type vfat (rw,flush) | 12:57 |
| cwillu_at_work | what was your root= line? | 12:57 |
| cwillu_at_work | /dev/mmcblk0p2? | 12:57 |
| neure | bootargs=vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:800x600-16@60 console=ttyS2,115200n8 rootwait root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 | 12:57 |
| neure | i see | 12:57 |
| neure | let me try p2 | 12:57 |
| cwillu_at_work | :) | 12:57 |
| neure | well | 12:58 |
| neure | i got login now | 12:59 |
| neure | :) | 12:59 |
| cwillu_at_work | \o/ | 12:59 |
| markos_ | hi, I've managed to build ~3k packages (karmic for now) using -mfloat-abi=hard and codesourcery 2010q1 gcc 4.4.1. So far I've had minor problems, but I've hit a wall with mono and java (gcj/openjdk), anyone willing to help/point to the right directions? | 12:59 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, thanks ! | 12:59 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, one more q.. | 12:59 |
| neure | how do i add x? | 12:59 |
| neure | some minimal | 12:59 |
| neure | some simple, compact wm if possible | 12:59 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, play around on your vm with a ubuntu-server image or some such; basically you can apt-get install <foo> to make any install you could possibly want | 13:00 |
| neure | this is the minimal demo image | 13:01 |
| neure | hmm | 13:01 |
| neure | but.. i would like to get some hint about how to proceed getting X :) | 13:01 |
| cwillu_at_work | binutils build-essential cups git-corelinux-firmware network-manager openssh-server picocom python-dev python-nose python-pip python-setuptools python-virtualenv samba system-config-printer-udev uboot-envtools uboot-mkimage ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard vim winbind wireless-tools xdotool xfwm4 xorg xsplash libcap2-bin | 13:01 |
| cwillu_at_work | are the package I throw in | 13:01 |
| cwillu_at_work | a lot of them aren't going to be relevant for you though | 13:02 |
| cwillu_at_work | you could also do something like "ubuntu-desktop" or "lubuntu-desktop" to get a fairly full desktop (full ubuntu, and a light ubuntu respectively) | 13:03 |
| ogra | or ubuntu-netbook :) | 13:03 |
| ogra | its specifically tailored for armel | 13:03 |
| neure | erm | 13:04 |
| neure | my network doesnt seem to work | 13:05 |
| neure | how do i check that? | 13:05 |
| ogra | ifconfig | 13:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | #ubuntu :p | 13:05 |
| neure | well | 13:05 |
| ogra | or on a lower level: cat /proc/net/dev | 13:05 |
| neure | i dont see anything other than lo | 13:05 |
| neure | which is bad | 13:05 |
| neure | i suppose | 13:05 |
| neure | there is no eth | 13:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | dhclient eth0 says device not found? | 13:06 |
| ogra | in proc ? | 13:06 |
| cwillu_at_work | (a device that's down won't show up in ifconfig unless you specifically name it) | 13:06 |
| neure | ogra, proc has line for eth0 | 13:06 |
| ogra | then bring it up | 13:06 |
| ogra | and run dhclient for it | 13:06 |
| cwillu_at_work | dhclient eth0 will suffice (it'll bring it up automatically) | 13:07 |
| neure | ok | 13:07 |
| cwillu_at_work | this is typical stuff for a bare operating system | 13:07 |
| neure | i had to run "dhclient eth0" before my eth0 started running | 13:07 |
| ogra | dpkg-deb: Building Package »u-boot-omap4« in »../u-boot-omap4_L24.6-p1git20100520-0ubuntu1_armel.deb«. | 13:07 |
| ogra | \o/ | 13:07 |
| ogra | finally | 13:07 |
| neure | cwillu_at_work, eh | 13:08 |
| neure | i suppose my clock is not right | 13:09 |
| neure | installing some packages i get lots of tar complaining time stamps being in future | 13:09 |
| ogra | run ntpdate | 13:09 |
| cwillu_at_work | ntpdate-debian :p | 13:09 |
| neure | i'll wait for the packages to install first | 13:09 |
| neure | i hope things are not broken by running with bad clock? | 13:09 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, i.e., almost nothing you're going through at the moment is specific to ubuntu or beagle | 13:09 |
| cwillu_at_work | it's just general "bringing up a unix system" | 13:10 |
| neure | i know.. :) | 13:10 |
| ogra | if you set up your network properly it will automatically sync the clock on network bringup during boot | 13:10 |
| cwillu_at_work | neure, should be fine, although you'll have bogus dates on files, etc | 13:10 |
| neure | ogra yes, i want it that way, but i was bitten by the fact that it is not like that by default on the minimal image i started from :) | 13:11 |
| ogra | you have to configure /etc/network/interfaces | 13:11 |
| ogra | or use network manager | 13:11 |
| ogra | that will always autosync the clock on network bringup | 13:11 |
| neure | first i want x working :) | 13:11 |
| neure | even before that i want openssh-server working | 13:11 |
| ogra | sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com | 13:12 |
| ogra | before installinf stuff | 13:12 |
| neure | well im already installing stuff | 13:12 |
| neure | i hope things will still work | 13:12 |
| ogra | they will, its just annoyingly niosy | 13:12 |
| ogra | *noisy | 13:12 |
| neure | yeah | 13:12 |
| neure | update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/smbstatus.samba3 to provide /usr/bin/smbstatus (smbstatus) in auto mode. | 13:16 |
| neure | smbd start/running, process 1327 | 13:16 |
| neure | start: Job failed to start | 13:16 |
| neure | whats that? | 13:16 |
| ogra | looks like samba | 13:16 |
| neure | yeah is it supposed to fail like that?) | 13:17 |
| ogra | no idea | 13:17 |
| ogra | i never use samba | 13:17 |
| neure | how do i allow lame passwords? | 13:19 |
| neure | sorry moved to #ubuntu :) | 13:19 |
| neure | how do i remove the 'password has expired'? | 13:23 |
| neure | ha | 13:25 |
| neure | got ssh working :) | 13:25 |
| ogra | lool, asac, is there any interest in keeping the uboot-imx package in the archive ? | 13:30 |
| ogra | i'm inclined to file a removal bug | 13:30 |
| lool | ogra: Does it work? | 13:37 |
| ogra | lool, well, very roughly ... its darn slow and a mess merged of two patchsets | 13:38 |
| lool | If it works and is not a huge maintenance burden, it might make sense to keep it? | 13:38 |
| ogra | effectively it was merged of two non working patch tarballs to make it somewhat work | 13:38 |
| neure | now getting ubuntu-netbook | 13:39 |
| ogra | today there shoudl be a new codebase in the freescale git that works better but i'm not really after maintaining it and doing a new release | 13:39 |
| hrw | re | 13:39 |
| ogra | beyond that it doesnt fit into the naming scheme anymore | 13:39 |
| ogra | (i use u-boot instead of uboot everywhere since thats what we get from all the upstream branches) | 13:40 |
| neure | oh no | 13:41 |
| neure | "ubuntu@beagleboard:~$ [ 2773.007507] hub 1-0:1.0: port 2 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling..." | 13:41 |
| neure | what is that? | 13:41 |
| neure | my ssh connection to shell that was installing ubuntu-netbook was reset :/ | 13:42 |
| neure | but looks like it is still running | 13:42 |
| neure | serial still works | 13:42 |
| neure | but looks like my eth0 died :/ | 13:47 |
| neure | i had no issues with ångström | 13:47 |
| neure | usb worked reliably | 13:47 |
| neure | :/ | 13:47 |
| neure | ogra i assume my installation issues were caused by usb issues | 13:51 |
| asac | ogra: isnt there a new git snapshot now available with all the fixes? | 13:57 |
| ogra | asac, no idea, but their git tree was supposed to have the fixes ... i didnt check | 13:58 |
| ogra | and i dont have interest in maintaining it (as in updates to the package) | 13:58 |
| ogra | so if nobody takes it over or says he needs it in the distro, i'D rather remove it | 13:59 |
| amitk | ogra: I used the imx uboot on my babbage board, it worked upto a point and then the board died. No idea if was caused by uboot. I need to use JTAG to try get it working again. | 13:59 |
| === NCommand1r is now known as mcasadevall | ||
| zyga | ogra: how can I make my nebook image look nice with 24bpp color on a beagle board? | 14:28 |
| hrw | zyga: use other omapfb.mode | 14:29 |
| ogra | what hrw said | 14:30 |
| hrw | zyga: 1280x800-24@60 | 14:30 |
| zyga | ogra, hrw: is it possible to change this without rebooting? | 14:30 |
| hrw | zyga: fbset --depth 24? | 14:30 |
| zyga | m | 14:30 |
| * ogra dounbts that works but would be happy to be proven wrong | 14:30 | |
| zyga | checking | 14:31 |
| zyga | mmm | 14:32 |
| zyga | it 'worked' | 14:32 |
| zyga | interesting image | 14:32 |
| zyga | well | 14:32 |
| zyga | it's not what I wanted | 14:32 |
| zyga | ogra: any hints? | 14:32 |
| ogra | define "interesting image" | 14:32 |
| === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander | ||
| ogra | :) | 14:32 |
| zyga | ogra: sending at ogra@canonical.com | 14:33 |
| zyga | sent | 14:33 |
| ogra | wow | 14:34 |
| zyga | ogra: resetting to 16 makes it even more wrong | 14:34 |
| zyga | the bottom 30% is black | 14:34 |
| ogra | what did you set on cmdline ? | 14:34 |
| zyga | sudo fbset -depth 24 | 14:34 |
| zyga | oh | 14:34 |
| zyga | on cmdline | 14:34 |
| zyga | mm | 14:34 |
| ogra | i'm pretty sure dynamic switching wont work with omapfb | 14:34 |
| ogra | you likely need to reboot and set it on the kernel cmdline | 14:34 |
| zyga | omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 | 14:35 |
| ogra | try 32 ther | 14:35 |
| zyga | just did | 14:35 |
| ogra | -32@ | 14:35 |
| zyga | (fbmode | 14:35 |
| zyga | nice ;-) | 14:35 |
| ogra | better ? | 14:35 |
| zyga | ogra: yeah, much more readable, check your email | 14:36 |
| zyga | note the blackness in the bottom parts | 14:36 |
| zyga | rebooting bb | 14:36 |
| ogra | hmm | 14:36 |
| zyga | ogra: I set it to | 14:38 |
| zyga | 'root=UUID=2e97cacf-bddd-45b7-a81a-c252dd42943f ro quiet splash vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-32@60 fixrtc' | 14:41 |
| zyga | checking now | 14:41 |
| ogra | you might also want 1280x800 | 14:41 |
| zyga | GODNESS! | 14:41 |
| zyga | it looks awsome | 14:41 |
| ogra | i picked 720MR-16 for people that use TV sets | 14:41 |
| zyga | much much better than that 16bit crap | 14:41 |
| ogra | since usually monitors can to 720 even with a bit streching | 14:42 |
| zyga | ogra: why 16? tvs cannot handle true color? | 14:42 |
| ogra | zyga, eats more ram though | 14:42 |
| ogra | no, just a ram decision | 14:42 |
| hrw | on 16:10 lcds 1280x800. on 16:9 - 1280x720 | 14:42 |
| zyga | ogra: makes you want to look at the screen though ;-) | 14:42 |
| zyga | ok | 14:42 |
| ogra | though we allocate 12M ... | 14:42 |
| ogra | might not really be an issue with that | 14:43 |
| ogra | hrw, right, but many TVs cant do 1280x800 | 14:43 |
| ogra | while monitors usually are able to do 1280x720 | 14:43 |
| hrw | yep | 14:44 |
| ogra | even 16:10 ones | 14:44 |
| hrw | my TV anyway is not able to do MR ones | 14:44 |
| ogra | though the 16bit are surely debatable | 14:44 |
| hrw | 1280x720 works | 14:44 |
| zyga | ogra, what does omapfb.debug=y do? | 14:57 |
| ogra | spill debug messages to dmesg afaik | 14:57 |
| mpoirier | ogra: do I remember you telling me you have a panda board ? | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | mpoirier, still waiting for it | 15:50 |
| mpoirier_ | Ok - I got mine yesterday. | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | cool | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | dont boot it yet | 15:51 |
| mpoirier_ | oops. | 15:51 |
| mpoirier_ | why ? | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | we need a special kernel patch to work around an issue that will fry the HW | 15:51 |
| mpoirier_ | ok. | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | at least i was told so | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | did you boot it with our kernel ? | 15:52 |
| mpoirier_ | No. | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | i guess if there is something shipped with it that should be fine | 15:52 |
| mpoirier_ | there is nothing apparent that came with it. | 15:52 |
| mpoirier_ | no SD card. | 15:52 |
| mpoirier_ | I'm just trying to see u-boot on the console. | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | i just uploaded x-loader-omap4 and u-boot-omap4 | 15:53 |
| mpoirier_ | I should probably do the same - where from ? | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/x-loader-omap4/L24.6-p1git20100520-0ubuntu2 and https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/u-boot-omap4/L24.6-p1git20100520-0ubuntu1 | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | not published yet you will have to wait a bit | 15:54 |
| mpoirier_ | what do you mean by not published yet ? | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | the binary packages arent published yet | 15:56 |
| mpoirier_ | ha. | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | the source just finished building | 15:57 |
| mpoirier_ | I have to build them myself then. | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | or just wait a bit | 15:57 |
| mpoirier_ | very well, I can do that. | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | the debs should show up within the next hour | 15:57 |
| mpoirier_ | you're still getting patches from TI ? | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | for the bootloaders ? nope | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | they should be fine now | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | at least they are on blaze | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | i'D love to know if MLO and u-boot.bin from these packages work on panda | 15:58 |
| mpoirier_ | Well, that was my next question - I bet they won't. | 15:58 |
| mpoirier_ | too HW specific at that point. | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | shouldnt be | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | but we'll see | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | x-loader might, u-boot definately shouldnt | 15:59 |
| mpoirier_ | definitely shouldn't work or shouldn't have problems ? | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | shouldnt have probs | 15:59 |
| mpoirier_ | humm... | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | MLO (x-loader) might since the wiring of the boards is different | 16:00 |
| mpoirier_ | yes, exactly. | 16:00 |
| mpoirier_ | mapping layout, ports... | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | but after x-loader u-boot should just work | 16:00 |
| mpoirier_ | depending on how they did their things... | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | well, its all omap4 | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | my blaze currently boots with that u-boot | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | so other omap4 should too | 16:01 |
| mpoirier_ | if uboot is doing some board specific hw initialization we could see problems. | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | if not we need to get that fixed by TI | 16:01 |
| mpoirier_ | yes. | 16:01 |
| mpoirier_ | I'm skeptic here 'cause I never used an xloader. | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | well, the omap4 u-boot is supposed to work across all omap4 boards we currently have | 16:01 |
| mpoirier_ | Always did all board specific init in u-boot. | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | x-loader inits the HW before loading u-boot | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | so the differences should be covered in x-loader | 16:02 |
| mpoirier_ | in that case yes. | 16:02 |
| mpoirier_ | Otherwize TI needs to fix. | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | right | 16:02 |
| armin76 | ogra_: you working with TI now? | 16:02 |
| mpoirier_ | as in talking to them ? | 16:02 |
| mpoirier_ | no. | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | well, try out the binaries once the packages show up (or build the packages yourself if you cant wait) | 16:02 |
| mpoirier_ | ya... I'll have to get another SD card. | 16:03 |
| mpoirier_ | Don't want to mix OMAP4 and OMAP4. | 16:03 |
| mpoirier_ | by the way... | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | 3 and 4 you mean :) | 16:03 |
| mpoirier_ | yes - brain bug. | 16:04 |
| mpoirier_ | by the way. | 16:04 |
| mpoirier_ | is omap4 code compatible with omap3 | 16:04 |
| mpoirier_ | > | 16:04 |
| mpoirier_ | ? | 16:04 |
| mpoirier_ | binary i mean. | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | usespace wise ? yes | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | *user | 16:04 |
| mpoirier_ | I'm talking about machine instructions. | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | its definately backwards compatible | 16:05 |
| mpoirier_ | yes, that is what I imagined. | 16:05 |
| mpoirier_ | Then we'll have to see about my board. | 16:05 |
| mpoirier_ | before talking to you I simply used the SD in my beableboad in the panda... | 16:06 |
| mpoirier_ | I don't see anything on hte console but that might just be my serial connection. | 16:06 |
| mpoirier_ | We'll see... | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | the userspace binaries work | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | TI is using lucid on their boards already | 16:06 |
| mpoirier_ | yes, they should - I'm more worried about the kernel thing you told me about. | 16:07 |
| mpoirier_ | my beagleboard kernel might have booted. | 16:07 |
| mpoirier_ | it would be very surprizing but still possible. | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | no | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | its not omap4 | 16:07 |
| mpoirier_ | I just hope not - if the binaries are code compatible the processor will have fetched instructions. | 16:08 |
| mpoirier_ | most likely not gone very far. | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | it wont boot an omap3 kernel (it cant) | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | and your MLO wont init the board anyway | 16:09 |
| mpoirier_ | good. | 16:10 |
| mpoirier_ | on another topic... | 16:10 |
| mpoirier_ | have you built maverick for ARM recently ? | 16:10 |
| mpoirier_ | kernel that is. | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | not yet | 16:10 |
| ogra_ | i'm actually waiting for the kernel team on that | 16:10 |
| mpoirier_ | Yes, Bryan is working on it. | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | <- uses binaries ... | 16:11 |
| mpoirier_ | I'll join him shortly. | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | i very very rarely build kernels :) | 16:11 |
| mpoirier_ | ok all good - no more questions. | 16:11 |
| mpoirier_ | thanks. | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | though since i have a touchbook i actually do that again :) | 16:11 |
| ogra_ | since it has non upstreamed patches it needs to work | 16:12 |
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| armin76 | hrm... | 16:20 |
| armin76 | ndec: i want a blaze :D | 16:20 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/442850/ | 16:25 |
| ogra | WOHOOO !!!! | 16:25 |
| dmart | lool: with regard to bug 489242, where can I find the patches you mention? | 16:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 489242 in libmad (Ubuntu) "Inline assembler fix needed for libmad in Lucid on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/489242 | 16:29 |
| dmart | I don't see a distinct libmad for maverick yet | 16:30 |
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| ndec | armin76: no problem. give me you mail addres ;-) | 16:49 |
| ogra | lol | 16:50 |
| armin76 | ndec: yey, armin76@gentoo.org :) | 16:52 |
| ndec | armin76: you should send me a check first .. ;-) | 16:56 |
| armin76 | ndec: ogra pays | 16:57 |
| ogra | and its hard to attach blazes to mails :) | 16:57 |
| ndec | ogra: that's why I said mail address and not email address ;-) | 16:57 |
| ogra | yeah | 16:57 |
| armin76 | oh, sorry, i'm used to it, i'll email it to you if you give me your email :D | 16:58 |
| hrw | ;D | 17:00 |
| hrw | ok, time for me | 17:00 |
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| ogra | armin76, checks are also hard to attach to emails ;) | 17:01 |
| armin76 | ogra: dunno, thats your choice *g* | 17:01 |
| ogra | mine ? | 17:01 |
| armin76 | yup, you pay | 17:02 |
| cwillu_at_work | mmm, avahi isn't in ubuntu-standard anymore | 17:12 |
| ogra | jayabharath, pingaling | 17:12 |
| dmart | lool: ping | 17:13 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/442866/ | 17:27 |
| ogra | NCommand1r, ^^^ | 17:27 |
| ogra | feel free to play with it | 17:27 |
| ogra | (for image building) | 17:27 |
| NCommand1r | ogra: oooh, win, although I don't have my OMAP4 with me at the moment :-/ | 17:31 |
| lool | dmart: pong | 17:32 |
| lool | dmart: The patches are in the libmad source package | 17:32 |
| dmart | lool: are you comparing against the current Debian package? | 17:33 |
| lool | dmart: the libmad version is the same in lucid and maverick | 17:33 |
| dmart | ok | 17:33 |
| lool | dmart: I'm just looking at the patches in the Ubuntu package | 17:33 |
| lool | dmart: Comparing the patch in the open bug and the patches in the source package | 17:33 |
| lool | dmart: There was a complaint that libmad produces garbled output with Ubuntu's binaries | 17:34 |
| dmart | yeah, I saw that one | 17:35 |
| dmart | Which patches are you comparing? | 17:35 |
| lool | dmart: Which is why I looked at the patches on the ARM bugzilla and in Launchpad, I wanted to send them upstream too, but I got confused by the three different patches and wanted someone who worked on them to sort it out | 17:35 |
| dmart | debian/patches/* versus http://linux.onarm.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=11 ? | 17:35 |
| lool | Yes something like that, or actually I think the one you attached to the Launchpad bug and the ones in the Ubuntu package | 17:36 |
| dmart | I can't see any patch attached to launchpad | 17:37 |
| dmart | ...but it looks like the one on Bugzilla may be different, is that what you mean? | 17:37 |
| lool | dmart: Yes | 17:38 |
| lool | dmart: You probably just linked to the bugzilla patch in Launchpad or so | 17:38 |
| dmart | I think that's probably it. | 17:39 |
| lool | dmart: So there were slight differences in the ifdefs and implementation of the arm assembly | 17:41 |
| dmart | I'll have to take a look at that and get back to you. | 17:44 |
| lool | dmart: Thanks | 17:45 |
| armin76 | dmart: did you guys saw that gcc fails to build with --enable-checking? | 17:46 |
| dmart | armin76: Can you check with doko? | 17:47 |
| armin76 | will do when he's around | 17:49 |
| dmart | I havent tried/observed this myself. Is this Ubuntu gcc or trunk? | 17:52 |
| dmart | lool: It looks like Kevin Welton's patch on linux.onarm.com is an implementation of the same thing. | 17:53 |
| dmart | * it's a bit neater than mine for MAD_F_MLN | 17:54 |
| dmart | * he's added some Thumb compatibility in imdct_l_arm.S, but it's an out-of-line assembler file and so will still be built for ARM by default | 17:54 |
| dmart | * (we could change that if desired) | 17:54 |
| dmart | * he lacks the add pc -> adr change in imdct_l_arm.S, which would probably cause problems if the code was really being built for thumb | 17:56 |
| dmart | I guess I'll need to merge the patches together and make sure the merged patch hits linux.onarm.com as well as Ubuntu | 17:56 |
| cwillu_at_work | is there a more correct way to generate the xauth file for a user than to xauth extract - $DISPLAY | xauth -f ~user/.Xauthority merge -; chown user ~user/.Xauthority? | 18:11 |
| cwillu_at_work | ... in xsession.d | 18:12 |
| lool | davidm: There are small differences like ifdef thumb versus ifdef thumb2 | 19:06 |
| lool | err sorry davidm | 19:06 |
| lool | ah dmart left | 19:07 |
| davidm | lool, NP | 19:10 |
| * armin76 waits for ndec's mail :D | 19:38 | |
| DanaG | http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/sharp-netwalker-pc-t1-unboxed-now-available/#commentshttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/sharp-netwalker-pc-t1-unboxed-now-available/#comment | 20:25 |
| DanaG | er | 20:25 |
| DanaG | stupid finch... screen didn't update, so I pasted twice. | 20:25 |
| NCommander | an Ubuntu tablet? | 20:32 |
| * NCommander has doubts about that being a great user experience since nothing is touch optimized expect the UNE launcher | 20:32 | |
| DanaG | Interesting... some people from TI are on campus here right now. | 20:42 |
| DanaG | Some sort of meeting going on. | 20:42 |
| zyga | ogra: booting with 32bit color makes the console blue | 21:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | heh | 21:09 |
| gbillings | does anybody know how to compile + install elf-arm-gcc in lucid lynx? | 23:21 |
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