[07:15] good morning [07:29] good morning dholbach :) [07:29] hola ara! [07:29] ¿como estas? :) [07:29] sigh, who made mornings... [07:30] jussi: Nature's Spite [07:31] dholbach, estoy bien, gracias, y tú? [07:32] ara: bien tambien, gracias :) [07:32] hi doctormo, hi jussi [07:33] good morning dholbach [07:41] * dholbach gives jcastro a big [07:41] _ _ _ _ ____ [07:41] | | | | | | |/ ___| [07:41] | |_| | | | | | _ [07:41] | _ | |_| | |_| | [07:41] |_| |_|\___/ \____| [07:41] [08:20] hola dpm! [08:21] hey dholbach :) [08:21] morning all [08:47] morning dpm [08:56] hola ara :) [09:28] hola randa_ [09:28] morning guys [10:11] aloha [10:17] hey czajkowski [10:17] dholbach: ello there :) [10:26] morning czajkowski [10:27] bencrisford: Afternoon :) [10:27] nigelbabu: is it really :(? I should still be in bed [10:28] bencrisford: Around 3 pm here. [10:29] nigelbabu: 10am over here :/, well closer to half past [10:29] bencrisford: and you're still in bed? [10:29] nigelbabu: I've got a week off school :D its allowed [10:30] nigelbabu: is it 15:30 or are you in one of those half hour timezones? [10:30] haven't had my coffee yet, brb :P [10:30] I'm in one of those half hour ones [10:30] interesting [10:32] AlanBell: which part? [10:32] how is it half term for school, all ours are finishing up this week over here for summer [10:33] czajkowski: really? :o, i've got another term [10:33] Schools here just opened today. 1st June. [10:33] 7 weeks or something? [10:33] I didn't realise it was so different everywhere else [10:33] yup all secondary schools finish up this friday and then the leaving and jnr certs two offical exams in ireland start for month of June [10:33] nigelbabu: I was always a little curious about those half hour offset timezones, can't quite see the benefit and I can imagine it being a bit confusing [10:36] AlanBell: makes sense for us I think [10:38] I found out about them when writing some software that schedules meetings. I was not impressed :-) [10:39] Haha. Yeah, frustrating in that sense. [11:14] AlanBell: The worst part about half hour ones is figuring out meeting times. Goes crazy when DST turns off and on. [11:28] ara: thought you might be interested in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/585824 - maybe we can convince mvo together to implement it :) [11:28] Launchpad bug 585824 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "When removing a PPA, offer to downgrade to "archive versions" (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [11:29] dholbach, you read too many wiki updates emails ;-) [11:29] ara: no, it was just coincidence [11:29] normally I almost don't :) [11:29] it does make me smile whenever i see your nick when i edit a wiki page [11:30] popey: so my wiki subscription definitely serves a purpose :) [11:30] dholbach, but it was indeed a coincidence that only 5 days ago you wanted the exact same thing ;-) [11:30] * ara hugs dholbach [11:30] ara: it's for the daily builds spec :) [11:30] * dholbach hugs ara back [11:30] I subscribed to the bug :) [11:31] now we need to pester mvo :) [11:40] ah, pester mvo - sounds like fun! [11:41] oooh, pestering someone... can I join in? :D [11:46] oh, jussi! Heya [13:14] http://www.opensourceuni.com/ have folks seen this [13:25] czajkowski: no, but it looks exciting! [13:33] that is cool! [14:55] dholbach: Do you know someone who might be able to help me get ClassBot modified to support translations? It is a Perl script, which makes it a bit more challenging [14:56] nhandler: I'd write a minispec or at least a bunch of todo items on a wiki page and write a blog entry and microblog about it [14:56] nhandler: offhand I don't know, sorry :/ [14:57] dholbach: Alright. We had something like that when we were in heavy development mode to track the features we needed to implement. I'll continue poking around I guess [14:58] I found it important to have all the TODO items neatly documented (bug reports, etc.) so people can easily help out [14:59] nhandler, http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Perl In the hello world package -> "An example is available in the examples directory: hello-perl" I think that could help [15:01] dpm: Awesome. I saw that page, but did not notice the Perl section (or the example). That is exactly what I needed. [15:01] :) [15:05] jcastro: *hugs* congrats [15:05] jcastro: very cute tweet [15:06] czajkowski: hi! [15:06] and thanks! [15:07] * dholbach hugs jcastro [15:09] ▌ ▌▌ ▌▞▀▖▞▀▖ [15:09] ▙▄▌▌ ▌▌▄▖▚▄ [15:09] ▌ ▌▌ ▌▌ ▌▖ ▌ [15:09] ▘ ▘▝▀ ▝▀ ▝▀ [15:10] ... [15:11] jussi: dont start being all cranky [15:11] \o/ dots [15:11] czajkowski: Imalways cranky at you, didnt you know? [15:13] jussi: *yawn* [15:20] jcastro, congratulations! [15:20] jcastro: \o/ [15:30] jcastro: congrats :D [15:31] thanks! [15:39] jcastro: heya! Congrats mate! [15:44] jcastro: congrats! [15:51] hey jono [15:51] jono: how are you doing? [15:52] hey dholbach [15:52] good thanks, you? [15:52] good good [15:52] :) [15:54] jono: nice shotofjaq [15:54] thanks czajkowski :) [15:54] dpm, good to go in 5? [15:54] jono: I had it up on the scartch pad as a topic :D [15:54] :) [15:54] ahhhh cool [15:55] jono: could you tweet/promote https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamsBestPracticesandGuidelines please [15:55] we are going to do a series of perfect 10 segments [15:55] sure [15:55] hey jono, yes! [15:56] jono: thanks, we've mailed -loco contacts list, but not everyone reads that, where as they do follow you [15:56] czajkowski, done [15:56] dpm, :) [15:56] jono: you're handy to have around :p [15:57] czajkowski, lol [15:58] czajkowski, would be great if you could spread the word about SOJ :) [15:58] I want to raise it's profile some more [15:58] get more people involved [15:59] jono: I do I rt ye everytime ye post [16:00] thanks czajkowski [16:00] maybe a blog entry could be good ;-) [16:00] lol [16:00] whatever you have time for :) [16:00] jono: I get the sneaking suspicion I've been action itemed! :p [16:00] I'll add it to do list this evening :) [16:01] haha [16:01] czajkowski: you have quite a few blog posts for this week, eh? ;-) [16:01] thanks! [16:01] dpm, ok, mumble ok? [16:01] just started a thread on the -ie mailing list of Getting to know one another to increase the discssion on our list [16:01] jono, yep [16:01] Pendulum: you're tomorrow right [16:03] I just heard you dpm [16:03] is your volume up? [16:03] let me check my mic [16:03] dpm, my mic seems to be working [16:03] can you play back music? [16:04] haha [16:04] odd, lets do skype [16:04] :) [16:04] sype ftw [16:05] :) [16:05] ok, on skype now [16:08] czajkowski: I know :) [16:08] Pendulum: was just checking [16:08] in the middle of a post now [16:16] dpm, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-process-improvements [16:17] good afternoon [16:17] dpm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity [16:39] Good Morning! or whatever it where you are :-D! [16:41] hey akgraner [16:41] Feeling better now? [16:41] akgraner: can you PM me your mailing address, I have a present for you [16:42] also, really sorry you couldn't make it up to jcastro's wedding :( [16:42] akgraner: we saved you some pint glasses! [16:42] greg-g: I ended up with like 20 [16:42] jcastro: everyone knows exactly what you want perahsp :) [16:42] oh, well then, can I keep mine and you send one, jcastro ? [16:42] greg-g: yeah, that'll work the best I think [16:42] oh wow [16:42] jcastro: when can we see the pictures? [16:43] nigelb: after I catch up. :D [16:43] jcastro: haha :) [16:43] jcastro: awesome! I love pint glasses :) [16:44] nigelb, I was given a shot this morning to keep the pain at a min. for the next couple of days to get some things done - but with a warning that overuse will cause further damage. I'll have surgery the 2nd week of July barring any further complications [16:44] ugh [16:44] I'm so sorry akgraner [16:45] akgraner: I hope it all goes well :) [16:45] me to :-) I am sure it will - but it is amazing how they can do temp nerve blocks and stuff now - better living through chemistry :-) [16:46] akgraner: Its not *that* safe for you. Please don't forget that its injured or you'll hurt it even more [16:48] nigelb: she won't listen. :D [16:48] she's probably bench pressing right now [16:48] knocking out push ups [16:48] jcastro: Most probably. [16:48] I would suggest not doing anything that caused pain when you didn't have the shot [16:50] nigelb: I agree there [16:51] * dholbach hugs akgraner [16:55] Thanks y'all :-) [16:56] :) [16:57] Pendulum: my friend had an ankle sprain. Took pain tablets and played basketball and eventually tore it :/ [16:58] nigelb: I probably tore my rotator cuff when I was 15, but swim coaches made me keep swimming and my parents didn't think it was so bad I needed to see a doctor. This is likely why I have so many shouder problems nwo [16:58] Pendulum: Oh :( [16:58] I had my shoulder lasered up! [16:58] (saw an orthopaedist about 4 years ago who said "there's scar tissue from what feels like a badly healed tear" which is why we know it was probably torn) [17:20] * dpm is just reading the scrollback and *hugs* akgraner! [17:21] dpm, thanks! [17:22] I don't know what happened to akgraner, but it does sound bad. I hope you'll be better soon, Amber! [17:36] * dholbach calls it a day [17:36] have a good one everybody [17:36] laters dholbach [17:36] * dholbach hugs you all [17:36] bye jussi [17:36] night dholbach :) [17:39] * dpm calls it a day too [17:40] See you all tomorrow! [17:47] * nigelb calls it a day too [17:47] Good night folks! [17:47] o/ [17:51] nigelb: g'night [17:51] :) [18:32] popey: czajkowski: pings [18:37] jcastro: hullo [18:37] czajkowski is afk [18:37] ah ok [18:37] popey: where is the most up to date list of official locos? [18:37] that huge page on the wiki still? [18:37] official or approved? [18:37] approved [18:37] approved gets mailing lists right? [18:37] launchpad.net/~locoteams-approved [18:38] they all get mailing lists AIUI [18:39] ok so like [18:39] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cu [18:39] put in a request for a mailing list [18:39] been around 3 years, has 52 members [18:40] i see no reason to hold them back from having a list personally [18:40] ok so just punt to you guys then? [18:40] go fer it [18:40] yeah, I don't really make that call [18:40] I leave that to your capable sideys [18:40] I mean ... [18:40] POWER SIDEYS! [18:41] popey: ok so just so I'm clear [18:41] I just assign them to you, and then you pile em up and agendaize them for the loco council meetings right? [18:41] then after you approve you assign it to vanguard right? [18:42] yes and no [18:42] yes you throw them at us [18:42] we deal with them on the mailing list / irc / meeting [18:42] generally as soon as we can [18:42] no point waiting for a meeting for us all to go "+1" [18:42] short answer: yes [18:43] :) [18:52] aloha [18:59] word of the day: "agendaize" [19:03] nice [19:07] I felt clever! [19:11] it was inspired [20:44] I could play with this all night long http://instantsfun.es/ [20:50] * JFo sends jcastro's word to M-W [20:59] jcastro, is like the EF Hutton of the community-team channel - when he speaks people listen :-p [20:59] akgraner: way with words girl! [21:00] akgraner: can you op up in -women-project and invite in airuando he's having issues joinging [21:00] and wants to say thanks to folks from Orla [21:00] please [21:02] okie dokie [21:03] see -women-project [21:04] czajkowski: btw, his nick is airurando you keep missing the 2nd r ;-) [21:04] jono: call today? [21:04] jcastro, yep, can you give me a few to wrap something? [21:04] might be about 10mins [21:04] no worries! [21:04] I'm going to go buy a coke [21:04] thanks! [21:17] jcastro, all set [21:17] me too! [21:22] jono: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/add-more-apps-to-ubuntu-messaging-menu.html [21:23] is the only way forward now for news to get out on ubuntu though a non ubuntu form, no mails from canonical dev folks just via OMG :( [21:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/Applications [21:24] czajkowski: I hope not :( [21:24] seems to be the way being pushed forward which is rather disapointing [21:31] jcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperStackTour [21:38] jcastro, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-process-improvements [21:42] jcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process [21:43] oh I've action items on there that need working [21:50] jcastro, oh shit, I forgot to say, I have music for you [21:51] !!!! [21:51] jcastro, you got a few mins in a few mins to give it a listen? [21:51] would like to hear your feedback [21:51] for sure [21:51] absolutely [21:51] ok let me go and upload them first [21:51] brb [21:51] * jcastro goes on a biobreak first [21:58] jcastro, mumble ok? [22:00] yeah [22:11] I think OMG is secretly ran by Mark [22:13] Technoviking: heh, well it's just getting a bit ridiculous for news to only go out via that tbh [22:14] am I the only person who has trouble reading omg in a visual way? [22:14] because of all the bright colours it reads as "too busy" to my eyes and tends to give me a headache [22:21] how many people attended UDS? [22:29] Pendulum: I read it in a feed reader, it's the only way [22:30] AlanBell: 300+ [22:34] jcastro: I kinda feel like, that if multiple people have trouble reading it on the native site (I'm not a fan of feed readers), then maybe a better way ought to be used to disseminate news [22:35] I don't have a problem with their reporting stuff, just when they're the *only* people reporting things that maybe ought to be coming more directly from Canonical and/or Ubuntu teams [22:35] I find UWN to be the most comprehensive [22:35] jcastro: aye, but the point atm is some really imporant info seems to be only going down the route of being told via omgubuntu [22:39] * jcastro nods [23:04] I don't think anything OMG is reporting is not accessible publicly but requires time and effort to watch list ect...then take the time to write it up [23:05] akgraner: I think it's a shame it's not coming from canoincal and tbh I put less faith in it because of that [23:05] and I think they have many eyes watching many lists [23:05] and that they send them links so they know