[05:08] <humphreybc> vish: ping
[06:43] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: hey, in case your still interested, im putting pytask through final testing before i release it thisarvo
[06:44] <humphreybc> Initial draft of the new ubuntu manual website design: http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-index.png
[06:46] <nisshh> humphreybc: thats much better than the current one
[06:47] <nisshh> the strip up the toop kind of reminds me of launchpads top strip too
[06:47] <vish> humphreybc: pong!
[06:48] <humphreybc> hey vish :)
[06:48] <humphreybc> I need some icons
[06:48] <humphreybc> have a look at this, http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/ump-index.png
[06:48]  * vish looks
[06:48] <ChrisWoollard> nice
[06:49] <humphreybc> see the icons for the top nav bar, and the twitter icon down the bottom, and any more that I come across... they're just default shapes from photoshop. I want better ones.
[06:49] <humphreybc> like boxee: http://boxee.tv
[06:52] <vish> humphreybc: k , what is the sice that they are used in?
[06:52] <vish> size*
[06:52] <humphreybc> let me look
[06:52]  * vish tries to think of a metaphor for "Get Involved"
[06:52] <humphreybc> yeah, I actually stumbled across the puzzle piece
[06:52] <humphreybc> it kind of works, "we need you to fit in" all that stuff
[06:56] <humphreybc> about 32 x 32
[06:57] <humphreybc> they have to be monochrome, about that shade of gray
[07:00] <humphreybc> I'm trying to decide whether to replace the fading animation of each page of the manual with a larger image
[07:04] <vish> humphreybc: righto, 32px . i'll get them done in a couple of days
[07:04] <humphreybc> thankyou!
[07:05] <vish> np.
[07:05] <humphreybc> also, monochrome facebook, twitter and planet icons would be nice too :)
[07:05] <vish> hehe , where do those go?
[07:05] <humphreybc> not sure
[07:05] <humphreybc> yet
[07:05] <humphreybc> lol
[07:06] <humphreybc> I'm still working on the bottom part of the site, going to try to make it into a "social" area
[07:07] <vish> humphreybc: hmm ,any reason you avoided using orange?
[07:08] <humphreybc> I originally tried making the top bar orange
[07:08] <humphreybc> but I couldn't find a suitable colour combination to make the items in the nav bar stand out enough
[07:08] <humphreybc> I'll keep playing, though
[07:08] <humphreybc> I sort of want to use colour sparingly to attract to buttons and other important things
[07:08] <vish> using that would be more consistent with other Ubuntu community sites , well the website team might already have templates
[07:09] <humphreybc> Yeah. Part of me wants to make us look like the other sites, but part of me also wants to separate our team a bit
[07:09] <vish> ;)
[07:09] <humphreybc> Also, Quickshot is going to get its own site I think
[07:10] <humphreybc> The program isn't going to be team specific - so it shouldn't be hosted on our site :P
[07:10] <humphreybc> I have to chuck the ubuntu logo in there too
[07:10] <humphreybc> still figuring out where to put those things
[07:10] <vish> humphreybc: hmm , if it is hosted on lp , the homepage shouldnt matter
[07:11] <vish> for quickshot^
[07:11] <humphreybc> yeah, I think Quickshot deserves its own site though
[07:11] <humphreybc> I want to attract more attention to it
[07:11] <vish> oh..
[07:11] <humphreybc> get more teams using it, etc
[07:12] <humphreybc> as for the domain name, for now it can just be quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org or something crazy like that
[07:12] <humphreybc> till we buy quickshot.org :P
[11:29] <ubuntujenkins>  nisshh have you fixed your problem that you asked about in #ubuntu-app-devel?
[11:31] <ubuntujenkins> I have an hour or two spare before i have to get back to revision
[11:42] <ubuntujenkins> hmm nissh after reading #quickly i see what you mean
[11:56] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: when you make a package it looks like you make an older package as the titles of the columns are different
[12:01] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: you have an unusual set up for your branch or quickly has changed the way it does things. How have you done a 64bit build of the package. I have built one but can't do it for quickshot
[12:03] <ubuntujenkins> o may be there is not a 64bit package i am confused
[12:11] <ubuntujenkins> ?ppa > ubuntujenkins
[12:11] <quickshotdevs> ubuntujenkins, please see my private message
[12:21] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: this is strange i can't work it out, I am going to lucnh now
[12:45] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: sorry, i was deep, in my "what the hell does this code do?" state, as far as i know it is not a 64bit package
[12:47] <ubuntujenkins> yea for some reason i thought it was a 64 bit package but it is not
[12:47] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: also, i merged some code from rick that made the column names fully translatable and various other things, you will find that the branch has changed alot since you tried it only a few days ago.
[12:47] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: there are some strange problems going on with the ppa package at the moment
[12:48] <ubuntujenkins> yea I have the new one now and i really can't work out why the package is not doing it properly
[12:48] <nisshh> you have the package from my ppa, or from trunk?
[12:49] <ubuntujenkins> I have tried both, and can't get the scrolling window working
[12:49] <nisshh> if you run the code in trunk using, quickly run, then it works, but in package form it doesnt
[12:49] <ubuntujenkins> yea, its so baffling
[12:50] <nisshh> iv never come accross this issue before
[12:50] <nisshh> iv been trying to get hold of someone who knows python really well all day but its been hard
[12:50] <nisshh> everyone seems to be busy
[12:51] <nisshh> didrocks was telling me to check that i imported stuff correctly and i did a bunch of tests in my python session but so far nothing is out of the ordinary
[12:52] <ubuntujenkins> its crazy it makes no sense, what was added to make this work which revision?
[12:52] <ubuntujenkins> this -> the sckrolling window
[12:52] <nisshh> the scrolled window?
[12:52] <nisshh> um let me see
[12:53] <nisshh> was not long ago
[12:53] <nisshh> revision 102 i think
[12:54] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: ^^
[12:54] <ubuntujenkins> thats what i thought
[12:55] <nisshh> all that was added was the glade object and 2 lines of code
[12:55] <ubuntujenkins> its strange
[12:56] <nisshh> and iv ruled out an lp build problem, i built the package locally and it stil did it
[12:56] <ubuntujenkins> same
[12:57] <nisshh> iv also fiddled with the ui files to see if it was a packing issue but thats not it either
[12:58] <nisshh> i think ill need to ask rick how he added the scrolledwindow to the ui, how he packed it and such, that could be the issue
[12:58] <nisshh> im also getting various other warning and errors, when i try and delete all the tasks at once
[12:58] <nisshh> which doesnt happen in trunk either
[12:58] <ubuntujenkins> it may be best to ask him, I can't understand what would cause it though.
[12:59]  * nisshh is about ready to punch his screen in because of this :)
[13:01] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: hehe, i just joined #python and i dont even know what the hell they are saying
[13:01] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: those errors on delteing stuff is only in the ppa and the ppa has the old titles with no capital at the start of them. But its the same for local packages as well
[13:02] <ubuntujenkins> quickly run works a dream, #python can be confusing
[13:03] <nisshh> yes
[13:05] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: using the --verbose flag with the ppa package also shows up nothing
[13:05] <ubuntujenkins> there is something crazy going on seriously
[13:06]  * nisshh salutes Captain Obvious
[13:07] <nisshh> iv checked and re-checked all my code, its all fine, i think the way to go may be to comment out that scrolledwindow code and go from there
[13:10] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: I don't think its the package its u and i
[13:10] <nisshh> hmmmm?
[13:11] <ubuntujenkins> we have both used old versions of pytask form "source" right. In a virtual mache your package works
[13:11] <ubuntujenkins> *machine
[13:11] <nisshh> huh?
[13:11] <nisshh> you tried it in a vm?
[13:11] <ubuntujenkins> The titles with no capital gave it away. ype works in vm
[13:11] <ubuntujenkins> *yep
[13:12] <ubuntujenkins> its got to be desktop couch
[13:12] <nisshh> ah, could be
[13:12] <nisshh> never thought of that
[13:12] <nisshh> i know for certain that my pytask database stil contains old data
[13:13] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: do you think that if we delete the pytask database in our local couchdb's the package may actually work?
[13:14] <ubuntujenkins> probably I am trying to work out exactly what to remove with out breaking other programs
[13:15] <ubuntujenkins> whats the database called?
[13:15] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: if you browse your couchdb, pytask whole new database called 'pytask' just delete that
[13:16] <ubuntujenkins> Apparently i don't have one I have lernid and gwibber etc
[13:16] <nisshh> hmm, thats interesting
[13:16] <ubuntujenkins> I think thats my fault i just deteled some other stuff
[13:16] <nisshh> just hang on a sec im trying
[13:17] <nisshh> yea, ok
[13:17] <nisshh> still not working!!!
[13:18] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: notice the munted ui on the ppa package version?
[13:18] <ubuntujenkins> munted?
[13:18] <nisshh> hang on ill take a screenie
[13:19] <ubuntujenkins> http://imagebin.org/99379 is my virtual box
[13:20] <nisshh> thats right, thats exactly how it should work
[13:20] <nisshh> look i mean
[13:20] <nisshh> not what mine looks like though
[13:22] <ubuntujenkins> brb
[13:22] <nisshh> ok
[13:26] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: this is what mine looks like when i run the ppa package install: http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6315/pytask001.png
[13:26] <ubuntujenkins> same
[13:27] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: the only explanation that even makes sense is that we have old data on our machines
[13:27] <ubuntujenkins> agreed
[13:27] <nisshh> thats why it works on your vm
[13:28] <nisshh> where the hell would that old data be though, i did a complete package purge for pytask on my machine
[13:30] <ubuntujenkins> its not our users a different user account gives the same thing
[13:31] <nisshh> right
[13:31] <nisshh> so it must be data outside our home dirs then
[13:31] <ubuntujenkins> thats my thinking
[13:31] <nisshh> somewhere in /usr im guessing
[13:32] <nisshh> thats where most of the pytask stuff gets put
[13:32] <ubuntujenkins> I suggest we remove the package and try and find it
[13:32] <nisshh> i agree
[13:34] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: aha! found it!
[13:34] <ubuntujenkins> where
[13:35] <nisshh> look in /usr/local/share/
[13:35] <nisshh> there might be a pytask directory in there for you too
[13:35] <nisshh> it contains the ui and icons
[13:36] <nisshh> wow, ok thats not all
[13:36] <ubuntujenkins> yes i have messed up couch.db
[13:37] <nisshh> just did a locate in that directory
[13:37] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: so have i i think, its asking for user/pass for some reason
[13:40] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: have got the package removed still?
[13:41] <ubuntujenkins> I still have "pytask" in /usr/local/bin as well
[13:43] <ubuntujenkins> AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHH the package is not installing the "pytask" bin file
[13:43] <ubuntujenkins> luke-jennings@luke-jennings-laptop:/usr/local/share$ pytask
[13:43] <ubuntujenkins> bash: /usr/local/bin/pytask: No such file or directory
[13:44]  * ubuntujenkins should not have deleted that file
[13:44] <nisshh> huh?
[13:44] <nisshh> it should be, what revision are you on?
[13:45] <humphreybc> what do you guys think about my new CV design? http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/cv.png
[13:45] <ubuntujenkins> I had the package uninstalled and deleted /usr/local/bin. big fail on my part. I am using the ppa package
[13:46] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: i think a local package install contaminates the clean environment that the ppa package tries to install too
[13:46] <nisshh> humphreybc: nice, but not a good choice of picture if you ask me :)
[13:46] <nisshh> rickspencer3: save us!
[13:47] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: it should not make a differnce which package is used
[13:48] <nisshh> true
[13:49] <humphreybc> nisshh: yeah, I'm thinking about choosing a slightly less crazy picture :P
[13:51] <ubuntujenkins> hmm my computer is messed up the "pytask" file is in /usr/bin where is shoudl be
[13:52] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: I think you need to remove /usr/local/bin as well but then running "pytask" doesn't work but python /usr/bin/pytask does. I still get couchdb problems
[13:52] <ubuntujenkins> brb
[13:53] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: right im ready to try again
[13:53] <nisshh> here goes
[13:53] <nisshh> humphreybc: yea :)
[13:57] <ubuntujenkins> hmm couchdb appears to be messed up how can make a new database?
[13:59]  * dutchie points out that humphreybc missed an apostrophe the line above "excellent english" on his cv
[13:59] <ubuntujenkins> lol
[14:00] <humphreybc> Ah, I looked into that. Apparently it's "Private Pilot Licence"
[14:00] <humphreybc> for the official designation, no s at all
[14:00] <humphreybc> cheeky bastard
[14:01] <dutchie> :P
[14:02] <humphreybc> okay, if you refresh, there's a less crazy photo and the grammar errors have been fixed :P
[14:03] <nisshh> i see
[14:04] <ubuntujenkins> I think the picture is worse :P
[14:04] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: if you run pytask from the trunk code it should automatically create one
[14:05] <dutchie> now you look like a convict
[14:05] <dutchie> oh, wait
[14:05] <dutchie> :P
[14:06] <nisshh> dutchie: lol
[14:06] <nisshh> does a bit actually
[14:06] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442783/
[14:07] <nisshh> humphreybc: dont you have any cv grade pictures of yourself???
[14:07]  * ubuntujenkins should look at what he is clicking
[14:07] <humphreybc> what do you classify as CV grade?
[14:07] <dutchie> sensible?
[14:07] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: oh crap
[14:08] <humphreybc> You mean, not smiling?
[14:08] <nisshh> humphreybc: a picture that doesnt make you look like a criminal?
[14:08] <dutchie> the photo on my cv was one of me taken at 00:15 on new year's day for a while
[14:08] <dutchie> luckily, i never needed to use it
[14:08] <humphreybc> I could do a collage of many pictures together...
[14:08] <humphreybc> to appease everybody
[14:08] <popey> i have never seen a photo on a cv before
[14:08] <ubuntujenkins> I don't have a photo on my cv.
[14:08] <popey> humphreybc: yours is the first
[14:08] <popey> and i have seen zillions of cvs
[14:08] <nisshh> popey: nope, i have a photo on mine
[14:09] <humphreybc> my CV has always had a photo on it. Normally a big fat one on the front page.
[14:09] <ubuntujenkins> brb restarting
[14:09] <popey> nisshh: "nope"?
[14:09] <nisshh> or did anyway
[14:09] <humphreybc> nisshh: must be a southern hemisphere thing
[14:09] <popey> It is the first I have seen, you cant disagree with that thanks
[14:09] <nisshh> popey: ok, good point
[14:09] <humphreybc> if I was an employer, I'd like to see my applicants, which isn't always possible in person
[14:09] <nisshh> humphreybc: yes, we are unique arent we :)
[14:10] <popey> why humphreybc ?
[14:10] <popey> all of my last 5 jobs have been done over the phone
[14:10] <popey> no interview ;)
[14:10] <popey> well, telephone interview, no in-person
[14:10] <humphreybc> So I can discriminate on age, race and gender? lol
[14:10] <thorwil> popey: it's common in germany, but apparently unknown/discouraged in the US and UK. no clue about Canada and AUS
[14:10] <popey> BZZZZT
[14:10] <popey> :)
[14:10] <humphreybc> just kidding :)
[14:10] <nisshh> popey: what? thats unheard of in AU
[14:11] <humphreybc> I dunno, I just think you can tell a lot from someone by looking at them. Call me all "don't read a book by a cover"
[14:11] <popey> humphreybc: to be fair you dont have much experience of reading CVs :)
[14:11] <popey> so you're not really best placed to judge that :)
[14:11] <humphreybc> true
[14:11] <nisshh> in humphreybc's case you can tell that he is grinning!
[14:11] <popey> "we need an insane person for this job"
[14:11] <popey> "he looks good!"
[14:11] <humphreybc> hahah
[14:12] <popey> :)
[14:12] <nisshh> popey: hehe
[14:12] <humphreybc> better than a depressed person
[14:12] <humphreybc> or an emo
[14:12] <humphreybc> lol
[14:12] <humphreybc> EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO AND SLIT MY WRISTS AND SHIT
[14:12] <humphreybc> yep
[14:12]  * humphreybc is pleased Pidgin is working now
[14:12] <popey> nisshh: in my line of work people rely on your CV, technical interview over phone and what others say about you
[14:13] <nisshh> popey: thats interesting
[14:14] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: yay! it works fine now if i install from the ppa, i think it was old files messing things up
[14:14]  * humphreybc is trying out photoshop's "save as PDF" thing
[14:14] <dutchie> you are doing your CV in photoshop?
[14:14] <humphreybc> 16 mb PDF later
[14:15] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: does removing it and then adding it again work?
[14:15] <humphreybc> dutchie: yep
[14:15] <dutchie> how delightfully insane
[14:15] <humphreybc> evince is struggling under the load
[14:15] <humphreybc> insane, why?
[14:15] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: yey I have sorted mine as well.
[14:15] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: i just removed every instance of pytask from my system except my trunk files in my home dir and reinstalled it from the ppa and it worked fine
[14:16] <ubuntujenkins> same
[14:16]  * nisshh shits himself in his happiness
[14:16] <ubuntujenkins> lesson learnt don't use quickly files to install
[14:17] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: cool, so we know its not the ppa package i can now finally announce the new release
[14:17] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: no kidding
[14:17] <ubuntujenkins> yep it was just us :)
[14:17] <thorwil> humphreybc: does PS embed fonts, save vectors or principally turn text into bitmaps when saving PDF?
[14:17] <humphreybc> thorwil: I *think* it embeds fonts, but I'm not sure.
[14:18] <humphreybc> it doesn't just draw some jpg and slap a .pdf extension on the end
[14:18] <thorwil> humphreybc: if it is the last, it's a very good reason not to go that way. all vectors or bitmaps would also explain why Evince struggles
[14:19] <thorwil> humphreybc: try selecting and copy/paste text from the pdf
[14:19] <humphreybc> I think evince just struggled with the large file size. It works fine if I reduce the quality a bit.
[14:19]  * ubuntujenkins gets on with revision
[14:20] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: thanks for helping me out
[14:20] <ubuntujenkins> no problem :)
[14:21]  * nisshh starts writing up the release announcement for pytask
[14:21] <humphreybc> thorwil: okay, no, it does the latter. selecting and copy/pasting text don't work
[14:29] <humphreybc> thorwil: After playing with some settings, this the best compromise I've got for quality vs. file size vs. evince being able to open it without crashing: http://humphreybc.homeip.net/files/cv.pdf
[14:34] <ubuntujenkins> nisshh: I don't know if you know but you can add your ppa by doing sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nisshh/pytask-releases
[14:35] <nisshh> ubuntujenkins: i do thanks
[14:36] <nisshh> much faster than using software sources :)
[14:36] <ubuntujenkins> yep
[14:55] <thorwil> humphreybc: hmm, i can select text in evince, but get garbage out. seriously, use illustrator, quarkXpress, indesign, oo writer, scribus or whatever else can generate pdf with proper text. will make you look more competent ;)
[14:56] <thorwil> now if only inkscape could embed fonts ...
[14:56] <nisshh> everyone: https://edge.launchpad.net/pytask/+announcement/5972
[15:06] <humphreybc> thorwil: hahaha
[17:10]  * ubuntujenkins the uni internet is fast an iso of ubuntu in a minute \0/
[17:16] <edakiri> Recommendations for software to automatically produce Indices and Table of Contents in HTML documents?
[17:19] <ubuntujenkins> edakiri: I think ours were done manualy or at least as far as i know.
[17:21] <edakiri> ubuntujenkins: Here we had a discussion about various documentation systems before, so I am betting some person(s) know some tools.
[17:22] <ubuntujenkins> yea sure, just giving my answer :)
[17:31] <edakiri> thanks
[19:00] <daker> hi @all :)
[19:18] <daker> ubuntujenkins, the countdown begins :)
[19:19] <ubuntujenkins> to what? :$
[19:19]  * ubuntujenkins is confused
[19:19] <daker> your exams
[19:20] <ubuntujenkins> ooo I had my first one today, not sure how it went
[19:20] <daker> my 1 training day :)
[19:21] <ubuntujenkins> what are you training for?
[19:21] <daker> PHP/MySQL
[19:21] <daker> two months
[19:22] <ubuntujenkins> nice even shinier websites :)
[19:22] <ubuntujenkins> have fun doing it, I am just poping out be back soon
[19:29] <daker> thanks :)
[20:38] <artnay> any schedule to update website translations?
[20:39] <daker> i'll update them right no6w for you artnay
[20:39] <daker> now*
[20:40] <artnay> daker: ok, thanks
[20:40] <artnay> I'll continue translating the manual itself...
[20:42] <ChrisWoollard> Speaking of translations. Is there any word on recovering the uk translations. Or do i have to do them again?
[20:42] <daker> the manual or the website ChrisWoollard ?
[20:43] <ChrisWoollard> the manual
[20:44] <daker> oh you ask godbyk or dutchie :)
[20:44] <godbyk> ChrisWoollard: I haven't heard anything. I'm guessing you'll have to retranslate.
[20:45]  * ChrisWoollard bangs his head against the wall!
[20:47] <ChrisWoollard> Ok then. If I re-translate what would stop me having to do it all again in the event of something else breaking!
[20:47] <ChrisWoollard> ?
[20:51] <ChrisWoollard> anyone?
[20:51] <godbyk> ChrisWoollard: No idea.
[20:51] <godbyk> ChrisWoollard: You can export the po file for your translation as a backup.
[20:52] <daker> good ideo
[20:52] <godbyk> Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.  Launchpad's translations stuff are a bit of a mystery to me. :)
[20:54] <ChrisWoollard> Ok. exporting the po file sounds like a good idea.
[20:54] <ChrisWoollard> thanks
[20:55] <ChrisWoollard> Next on the agenda is world peace. Can you do that one?
[21:08] <godbyk> I'll add it to my TODO list. :)
[21:11] <ChrisWoollard> As far as I recall, your agenda is very very long.
[21:29] <ChrisWoollard> ping godbyk
[21:32] <godbyk> ChrisWoollard: pong
[21:34] <ChrisWoollard> Did i hear the other day that things were going to move to docbook?
[21:36] <godbyk> ChrisWoollard: Well, there's a lot of stuff planned.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-support-and-learning-center for an overview.
[21:37] <ChrisWoollard> Yummy, thanks.
[21:43]  * ubuntujenkins is bored of revision
[21:47] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: revision?
[21:48] <ubuntujenkins> yea exams stopping me from doing quickshot work. Over in two weeks \o/
[21:48] <ubuntujenkins> uni end of year ones
[21:49] <ubuntujenkins> also means back to the most painfully slow internet connection.  I can do 700mb in 60 seconds here :P
[21:49] <ubuntujenkins> its so fast the server i am getting it from is the restriction
[21:49]  * ubuntujenkins is going crazy
[21:50] <godbyk> heh
[21:51] <ubuntujenkins> I aim to write the manual program alpha in three days and a beta in another 5. Its not that complex of a program tbh
[21:51] <ubuntujenkins> after i finish that is
[21:52] <godbyk> yeah.
[21:52] <godbyk> never underestimate complexity, though. :)
[21:52] <ubuntujenkins> get the whole team in on testing and as many people as we can find
[21:52] <godbyk> things that seem simple when you're at the beginning of a project usually reveal their true complexity the deeper you get into them.
[21:53] <ubuntujenkins> true I really want a download progress bar, like the file transfer type thing. That is probably the hardest part
[21:53] <ubuntujenkins> alot of other stuff is in quickshot like reading files form servers etc
[21:53] <godbyk> right.
[21:54] <godbyk> as long as the file server gives you the Content-length http header, you can do that.
[21:54] <godbyk> (assuming the API you're using tells you that info)
[21:55] <ubuntujenkins> I don't know how quickshot does it tbh i need to learn that this release. I think a dictionary file of languages and links is all that is needed
[21:55] <godbyk> the dictionary could reside on the server, too. then quickshot just queries that info from the server.
[21:56] <ubuntujenkins> the dictionary is on the server I think the manual program should check for langauges that the manual is avalible in form the dictionary
[21:57] <ubuntujenkins> *from
[21:57] <ubuntujenkins> that way it is easy once a new langauge is released
[21:58] <ubuntujenkins> I want to use this to continue my learning but I am sure flan will help if i ask nicely :)
[21:58] <godbyk> I agree.
[22:09] <ubuntujenkins> i also need to as the ground control guys how they detect if the interent is up. I think they do something like that at the moment
[22:20] <godbyk> I think you can find out via dbus to networkmanager or something.
[22:21] <ubuntujenkins> yea I don't wnat to use network manager because then what about people who use wicd etc. I have asked doctormo I am waiting for a reply. I will check out dbus
[22:21] <godbyk> good point
[22:22] <godbyk> there's surely some semi-standard method by now.
[22:29] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: whats wrong with this http://imagebin.org/99445 ? I wonder how long it take you to notice
[22:30] <godbyk> well, it's not seeing your microphone/inputs.
[22:30] <godbyk> and didn't you have multiple outputs before, too?
[22:31] <godbyk> the UI could be improved.
[22:31] <godbyk> lots and lots of buttons.
[22:31] <godbyk> I have no idea what it's for
[22:31] <ubuntujenkins> its more basic than that theres no way to close the window. I have no clue how to use jack
[22:31] <ubuntujenkins> alt+f4 doesn't work
[22:31] <godbyk> I noticed that, but figured there was a close button hiding in there somewhere. :)
[22:31] <godbyk> here's how you close it: Press Alt+F2. Type 'xkill'.  Click on the window.  Closed! :)
[22:32] <ubuntujenkins> there is not its stupid. After talking to you when you went over quickshot i spot so many errors :)
[22:33] <ubuntujenkins> omg another window with no close button AAGGGGHHH
[22:34] <godbyk> lol
[22:34] <godbyk> It's kind of fun to run through an application and just point out all the flaws you notice. :)
[22:34] <ubuntujenkins> i need to file a bug on this after exams
[22:54] <ubuntujenkins> hmm starting jack stops my audio
[22:55] <ubuntujenkins> I give up i am off to bed, night all
[23:19] <c7p> (really big day ...) night all
[23:24] <daker> godbyk, ping
[23:24] <godbyk> daker: pong
[23:24] <daker> how many downloads we got ?
[23:25] <godbyk> haven't fixed the sql and haven't looked in ages.
[23:25] <daker> oki
[23:26] <daker> i need to make support for browsers, so i need to know the list of the most used browsers
[23:26] <godbyk> From the urls table is looks like there are 88948 hits on http://ubuntu-manual.org/download/10.04/en_US/screen
[23:26] <godbyk> Ah, I think you can snag that info from the google analytics page.
[23:26] <godbyk> do you have access to that?
[23:27] <daker> no
[23:27] <daker> you have the access :)
[23:27] <godbyk> let me set it up for ya
[23:28] <godbyk> daker: what's your google email address?
[23:28] <daker> adnane002@gmail.com
[23:28] <daker> or adnane@ubuntu-manual.org
[23:29] <godbyk> daker: okay, you should be set now.  go to google.com/analytics
[23:30] <godbyk> log in (with your google login) and you can view the reports.
[23:30] <daker> oki
[23:30] <daker> thanks
[23:30] <godbyk> daker: you should also be able to view other reports here: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dashboard?hl=en&siteUrl=http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:33] <daker> i can't
[23:33] <daker> he tolds me that the site is not verified :s
[23:34] <godbyk> daker: ah, for the second link (webmaster tools), you have to use your adnane@ubuntu-manual.org address, apparently.
[23:35] <godbyk> I'll add your adnane002 address too
[23:35] <daker> oki GA is working
[23:35] <godbyk> daker: okay, adnane002@gmail.com should be set up for the webmaster tools now, too.
[23:36] <godbyk> daker: you may have to go to https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools first to log in or something.
[23:36] <godbyk> then ubuntu-manual.org should appear in your list.
[23:36] <daker> ah oki
[23:41] <daker> good night @all