[01:34] <knome> hey, we have a bot attack at #xubuntu
[01:34] <knome> anybody willing to lend a hand?
[01:34] <Flannel> knome: what's up?
[01:35] <knome> clients from webchat turning up
[01:35] <knome> 03:33  freewashcook: /!\ BREAKING NEWS /!\ #ubuntu-women is hosting our annual  WET T-SHIRT CONTEST!  For details -> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Home
[01:35] <Flannel> Oh fun stuff.
[01:35] <Flannel> knome: So, just people in and out? or what?
[01:35]  * Flannel just joined, but I'll idle there and do what I can
[01:35] <knome> people in and flooding
[01:35] <knome> i set +m already for a moment
[01:36] <knome> looks like they are killing the clients now
[01:36] <knome> i kicked 4 of them - what should i tell ubottu as the reason?
[01:37] <knome> okay, different kind of attack now...
[01:37] <Flannel> knome: Don't worry about ubottu
[01:37] <knome> okay
[01:37] <knome> :)
[01:37] <Flannel> Who's in charge of the women wiki?
[01:38] <knome> i've no idea
[01:38] <Flannel> since, they'll need an admin to reverse some vandalism
[01:38] <knome> yeah...
[01:40] <tsimpson> knome: I suggest '/mode +q $~a' for now
[01:40] <knome> that does what?
[01:40] <tsimpson> quiet unidentified users
[01:40] <tsimpson> at least then everyone else can speak
[01:40] <knome> and -m?
[01:40] <knome> okay
[01:40] <tsimpson> yeah, -m
[01:40] <knome> do you suggest bans?
[01:41] <tsimpson> no point
[01:41] <knome> okay
[01:41] <tsimpson> they are mostly proxies or "compromised" systems, and probably won't use the same IP twice
[01:41] <knome> yup
[01:41] <knome> probably
[01:41] <tsimpson> besides, they're attacking #freenode too, so staff are working on it
[01:42] <knome> ah, right
[01:42] <tsimpson> knome: are they all gateway users? @gateway/web/freenode/...
[01:42] <knome> btw, was ircanswersbot an acknowledged bot?
[01:43] <knome> tsimpson, no, there were some from @ip's as well
[01:43] <tsimpson> ahh, the couldn't make it easy :(
[01:43] <knome> those clients started joining when i kicked a few of the webclients out
[01:43]  * h00k catches up after a busy weekend
[01:43] <tsimpson> ircanswers bot is approved, yes
[01:43] <knome> okay
[01:43] <tsimpson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots <- that will list any approved bot
[01:44] <tsimpson> (at the bottom for "external" ones)
[01:44] <knome> IRSeekBot is in #xubuntu, while not listed in the page
[01:45] <tsimpson> yeah, I was going to update that
[01:45] <knome> okay
[01:45] <knome> thanks
[01:45] <tsimpson> the policy is that IRSeekBot can log anywhere where UbuntuIrcCouncil is the owner and ubuntulog is already logging
[01:45] <knome> okay
[01:46] <knome> any advices on when to revert the +q mode?
[01:47] <tsimpson> well, not yet
[01:47] <tsimpson> the only way to know of course is to try it and see...
[01:48] <tsimpson> but a fresh batch just hit #freenode, so not yet
[01:48] <knome> yeah
[01:48] <knome> it's soon 4am here, so it might not be before afternoon if we have to wait for much longer :)
[03:33] <maco> Flannel: the wiki has been locked
[03:34] <Flannel> maco: I heard
[03:34] <Flannel> maco: thanks
[04:37] <Mamarok> @login
[04:37] <Mamarok> @btlogin
[08:38] <summers> i would like to announce a new ubuntu channel, #ubuntu-faggots, all are welcome to join
[08:39] <jpds> OK.
[08:41] <elky> jussi, topyli, tsimpson you might want to have that dropped.
[08:47] <jussi> Im on it
[08:48] <jpds> -devel
[08:51] <gord> summers in #u-d someone
[08:51] <gord> desktop*
[08:56] <jussi> trelane: can we help you with something?
[08:56] <trelane> I'm watching.  As always.
[08:56] <elky> We'd really rather you did not.
[08:56]  * trelane notes that the #u-w issue is not dealt with yet
[08:57] <trelane> per the topic, I remain.
[08:57] <jussi> trelane: #ubuntu-ewomen is not part of this channels purview, please join #ubuntu-irc
[08:58] <jussi> #ubuntu-women even
[08:58] <trelane> aah noted
[08:58] <trelane> regards
[08:58] <Flannel> jussi: What did I miss about nisstyre?  I can't find anything in BT
[08:59] <jussi> Flannel: I forwarded the channel I just closed here, then realised my mistake.
[09:00] <elky> That says it all, really.
[09:01] <elky> This is really going to be painful in a week's time when ubottu gets around to reminders...
[09:04] <jussi> right, summers has been passsed a ticket to k land
[10:11] <antirooster> hi
[10:12] <elky> another one of them
[13:08] <knome> hey
[13:08] <ikonia> hello
[13:08] <knome> have the floodjoins passed already?
[13:08] <ikonia> not sure
[13:08] <knome> and the #u-w issue
[13:09] <knome> well, have to try
[13:12] <ikonia> ?
[13:14] <knome> removed the quite on #xubuntu
[13:14] <knome> *quiet
[13:15] <elky> knome, not resolved, no.
[13:16] <knome> elky, right. i'll hang around and am ready to put the quiet back
[14:10] <funkyHat> blorp
[14:10] <Pici> bup
[14:15] <jussi> burp
[15:07] <tsimpson> rocket16: can we help you?
[15:07] <rocket16> Hello respected Operators. I have a question about ubutto Bot system. That is, I made an Open-Source Book on GPL Licenses,
[15:07] <rocket16> Hello tsimpson
[15:07] <rocket16> And, like the Ubuntu Manual, which is displayed at !manual command, can there be any command made, in ubutto, for referring to that Free Book, which states, how Linux is conveinient to use,
[15:07] <rocket16> ?
[15:08] <tsimpson> which free book is that?
[15:09] <rocket16> tsimpson: That is a free PDF, on GPL licenses, which is about "Why is Linux better than commercial OSes", and it is available at http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ynygmlzluzw (I compiled this PDF after taking the permission from The owner of the site, whyislinuxbetter.com)
[15:10] <rocket16> I beg to state, that the quality of it, might be the least, but is it possible, that like refering to Ubuntu manual, such PDFs created by users can also be refered to by ubotto?
[15:10] <tsimpson> does it have anything to do with Ubuntu? (and I mean Ubuntu specifically rather than Linux in general)
[15:12] <rocket16> tsimpson: Actually, it has very less, to do in common about Ubuntu, excluding a few references to it. I think, perhaps I need to make something like Ubuntu-specific to make it included in ubotto database, am I right?
[15:13] <tsimpson> yeah, the link to the ubuntu-manual site is because it's relevant to Ubuntu and a source of support
[15:14] <rocket16> I have another small PDF, entirely collected and written by me, at http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yiykuzm0mjy which is about Ubuntu tips and tricks, and is Ubuntu-specific. I believe, it might be included in future. Well, thanks tsimpson, for your earnest support.
[15:14] <rocket16> Thank you, tsimpson and other respected operators. See you all again.
[15:14] <rocket16> Bye all.
[15:14] <Pici> Interesting.
[16:06] <ikonia> I'd be concerned about linking to a user written document statment details about the licenses
[17:56] <jussi> Has anyone got a current chanserv.py
[17:56] <jussi> ?
[19:06] <Pici> Asked onetinsoldier not to forward people to -offtopic for support.
[19:11] <Pici> I think we need to talk about whether compiling software that is not in the repositories (or even stuff that is in the repos) is offtopic for #ubuntu.
[19:47] <Pici> tomaw: ty.
[19:47] <tomaw> np
[19:48] <Pici> I know I shouldnt be feeding, but sometimes it just gets to me.
[19:48] <Pici> I'll keep my mouth (fingers) shut.
[19:49] <tootroot> Hello, why can #ubuntu-men not be made, but #ubuntu-women can? How could I start an ubuntu male project?
[19:50] <tootroot> I think that men and women should have equal rights, hence they should each have their own #ubuntu channel.
[19:50] <tootroot> Ubuntu is all about promoting equality and such, right?
[19:51] <Tm_T> tootroot: not again this
[19:51] <tootroot> "Again"?
[19:51] <tootroot> I just brought this up today for the first time.
[19:51] <Tm_T> but we have been dealing this kind of requests many many times before
[19:52] <tootroot> And what is the reason why?
[19:52] <Tm_T> there's no real reason
[19:52] <tootroot> Why can't men have their own #ubuntu channel, but the women can?
[19:52] <tootroot> What is that reason?
[19:52] <Tm_T> tootroot: #ubuntu-women is not "channel for women"
[19:52] <tootroot> What is it then?
[19:52] <tootroot> And why can't men have their own?
[19:53] <Tm_T> tootroot: read http://www.ubuntu-women.org/ for starters
[19:53] <tootroot> Ok, why can't there be a place that encourages men to contribute to Ubuntu then?
[19:54] <tootroot> Why can't all their practices apply to men as well?
[19:54] <tootroot> Why can't the men do the same?
[19:54] <Tm_T> tootroot: we do
[19:55] <tootroot> Why can't men have their own channel to do this in?
[19:55] <Tm_T> tootroot: it's not needed, regular channels suffice
[19:56] <tootroot> Why can't regular channels suffice for women as well? That's sexist if you're implying they are too dumb or something to be able to use the main #ubuntu rooms, just like how men do.
[19:56] <tootroot> Men should have equal rights
[19:56] <tootroot> same as women
[19:56] <Tm_T> tootroot: and that's exactly the reason why -women is needed and -men isn't
[19:56] <tootroot> But why are women so special that they are allowed to have that room, but men can not? I don't understand.
[19:57] <Tm_T> tootroot: it's not about being "allowed", whole point of -women project is to make itself not needed
[19:58] <tootroot> uhm, but why can't there be a channel that has the same philosiphies as the -women project, but for -men ??...... humans are humans and that is what the ubuntu distro stands for
[19:59] <Tm_T> tootroot: let's say it this way: if you want a channel from ubuntu namespace, you prolly like to have reasonable project to need that channel
[19:59] <Tm_T> tootroot: so project comes first
[20:00] <tootroot> Ok so if I buy ubuntu-men.org then I could probably claim that channel?
[20:00] <Tm_T> tootroot: no, buying domain doesn't make project
[20:00] <tootroot> How do I make myself into a project then
[20:00] <Tm_T> tootroot: you don't make yourself a project (:)
[20:00] <tootroot> WELL THEN. How do I claim #ubuntu-men? What do I do to earn this channel?
[20:01] <Tm_T> tootroot: you need a project that would need that channel, then you have to ask dear IRC Council to grant it for you
[20:01] <Tm_T> tootroot: but first, the project
[20:03] <Tm_T> tootroot: if you don't know what is project in this context, study, for example, any ubuntu project
[20:03] <Tm_T> there's plenty of good (and I'm sure also bad) examples
[20:03] <tootroot> I find that absurd that there can't be a channel where ubuntu males can talk to other ubuntu males in a quieter enviornment. Thanks for your time anyways.
[20:05] <Tm_T> you're welcome
[20:11] <Tm_T> ubun2fgt: hi how can we help you today?
[20:14] <Pici> uh. I didn't do that.
[20:15] <Pici> oh. It was all those invites I just got, wonderful.
[20:17] <Tm_T> Pici: did you get the realname that had?
[20:17] <Pici> Tm_T: Yeah, I saw it earlier.
[20:17] <Tm_T> habits...
[20:18] <ikonia> the trolling season is upon us
[20:19] <funkyHat> When is it not trolling season?
[20:23] <Tm_T> funkyHat: when freenode servers are down?
[20:23] <funkyHat> ⢁D
[20:26] <mneptok> when schools are in session
[20:27] <mneptok> things should get better when summer camp begins
[21:37] <rab13s> now that ive been kickd how would you go about making ubuntu into french?
[21:37] <ikonia> rab13s: documentation on changing the local exists in the wiki
[21:37] <charlie-tca> Join the french loco team
[21:38] <ikonia> however this is not a support channel, this channel is only used for discussing issues within the channels with the operators
[21:38] <rab13s> i was kicked from regular #ubuntu
[21:39] <ikonia> rab13s: for trying to post dangerous commands
[21:39] <ikonia> as well you know
[21:39] <ikonia> so shall we stop playing this sily game now ?
[21:39] <rab13s> rm = remake fr = french? logical?
[21:39] <niko> rab13s: vous parlez français ?
[21:40] <ikonia> rab13s: did you run the command on your system ?
[21:40] <rab13s> rm en remake english?
[21:40] <ikonia> niko: can help you in french
[21:41] <rab13s> I speek english
[21:41] <ikonia> then why do you want ubuntu in French
[21:41] <ikonia> or shall we stop playing the silly game now ?
[21:41] <rab13s> bah srry everyone I thought i was being funny, didnt mean to get kicked
[21:42] <ikonia> no you didn't think you being funny
[21:42] <ikonia> or you would not have kept it up in this channel
[21:42] <rab13s> 2 line bad joke
[21:42] <ikonia> the bottom line is you tried to post a dangerous command, got kicked, came in here tyring to be clever and pretend it was an honest mistake, got caught out
[21:43] <ikonia> so I suggest until you can behave like a responsible user and actually contribute to the channel without trying to destroy someones system for a joke, you keep out of the channel, I also suggest that until you can be honest straight away with people in this channel don't speak
[21:43] <rab13s> ikonia,  I gave up, by bad
[21:44] <ikonia> it was your bad - and it is your bad
[21:44] <ikonia> to play a stupid game in ubuntu is one thing, to continue it in here is another
[21:44] <ikonia> both are unacceptable
[21:44] <rab13s> ok dad
[21:45] <ikonia> rab13s: just so I'm clear, you do know that command could have destoryed someones system if executed correctly ?
[21:45] <rab13s> what?
[21:45] <ikonia> removing the root file system on someone's system will destory it
[21:46] <rab13s> what is root?
[21:46] <ikonia> ok, you're playing dumb again, so I'm not going to continue this
[21:46]  * jrib agrees
[21:46] <ikonia> rab13s: please leave the channel and come back when you can discuss this properly
[21:47] <rab13s> ikonia: once I stop laughing ill msg you
[21:47] <ikonia> what a waste of time
[21:49] <ikonia> wow - your diguise is amazing
[21:50] <ikonia> bellman: do you want anything else from this channel ?
[21:50] <bellman> all goooood
[22:13]  * maco headdesk
[22:13] <ikonia> ?
[22:14] <maco> reading scrollback
[22:57] <ikonia> hello Nakkel
[22:57] <Nakkel> Hi
[23:01] <ikonia> Nakkel: are you an op for an ubuntu channel or do you need some help with something (sorry, not seen you before)
[23:03] <Nakkel> Ah, no, just confused with channels, Tm_T is guiding me #elsewhere … be gone in moment
[23:03] <ikonia> no problem
[23:03] <ikonia> and no rush
[23:04] <ikonia> just checking you didn't need any help with something
[23:05] <Nakkel> Thanks, no, just collecting stray channels in my logs as I try to remember where I have been and where I am going. :)
[23:06] <Nakkel> Well, was nice to read all your nicks, be seeing you all. bb
[23:07] <Nakkel> 7wc
[23:07] <Nakkel> ugh
[23:07] <ikonia> bye
[23:07] <ikonia> ha ha