m4t_IsoA MESSAGE FROM JASON GATES AKA JASON FISHER AKA BIKCMP: girl you must be java bytecode because you let me use you anywhere I want04:24
M4tsubStr8A MESSAGE FROM JASON GATES AKA JASON FISHER AKA BIKCMP: I got news for these niggers. They can screw 100 degenerate White sluts a day and that doesn't change the fact that they're still just niggers. Its like the niggers who go out and buy Cadillacs or BMWs imagining people will think they're "high class" or rich. LOL! When people see a nigger riding around in an expensive car, they automatically know its nobody of any 04:25
M4m_88A MESSAGE FROM JASON GATES AKA JASON FISHER AKA BIKCMP: Guess what, asshole? I was one of the earliest hackers in the 1980s. I KNEW Kevin Mitnick. Phone Phreaking is as secondary to me as skullfucking your daughter. I'm going to keep calling your house, OVER AND OVER, and the phone company will NEVER be able to trace the call. You're going down.04:25
ww88BirdIsoA MESSAGE FROM JASON GATES AKA JASON FISHER AKA BIKCMP: girl you must be Frogger because I would cross rush hour traffic and cascading rivers in order to hop in your hole 6 times in a row04:26
m4mm_ChanTimeA MESSAGE FROM JASON GATES AKA JASON FISHER AKA BIKCMP: I cut myself because I find it an artform, just like tattoo's, but I LIKE cutting a beautiful drawing into myself, as I did it and I drew it. But I did cut along time ago so, that might be it. Anyway, I only cut when it fades and needs touching up, but it sure feels good!04:26
aragood morning all!06:57
* ara installs Hardy to test Firefox 3.6.407:03
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aramvo, the "updates available" systray icon is showing in maverick alpha-1, I guess that's a bug...12:47
mvoara: yes, I will fix it today12:52
aramvo, OK, is there a bug number?12:53
mvoI haven't looked :(12:55
mvobut I guess there is one12:55
matumbahello everyone! i've just set up a hardy vm for firefox testing - hardy-updates should be disabled before doing any updates, right?13:02
aramatumba, the best thing to do is to install any available updates, then enable the ppa and then dist-upgrade13:06
aramatumba, it should work even with hardy-updates enabled13:06
matumbaara, ok, thx13:07
aramatumba, thanks for testing!13:07
matumbaara, np :-)13:07
matumbaara, one final question: "Upgrade to Lucid" is just a simple LTS -> LTS upgrade? should I remove the PPA from the sources.list beforehand?14:09
* charlie-tca waves14:20
xdatapara, good evening14:20
alourie|workI would like to volunteer testing maverick-server i386 ISO. Who should I cooperate this with?14:30
charlie-tcaright here. Have you added yourself to the tracker at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntu/all ?14:33
aramatumba, sorry, I was at lunch, yes, disable the ppa (although normally update-manager will disable it for you)14:39
matumbaara, thx again14:39
aramatumba, np14:40
araxdatap, hey!14:40
mvoara: new update-notifier uploaded that fixes the icon thing14:40
aramvo, cool, thanks!14:40
mvocheers, thanks for finding it14:41
alourie|workcharlie-tca: for some reason I have trouble login in. Is the user/pass the same as on brainstorm?14:43
xdatapara, just sent you an email. Still problem with iso tracker14:43
charlie-tcaYou have to create a new login, I believe, for the qa tracker14:43
charlie-tcaoops, my mistake, it should be the same as brainstorm14:44
alourie|workcharlie-tca: nope, it wasn't. I had to create it once again...14:45
alourie|workbug? :-)14:45
charlie-tcaHere is the procedure - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures14:45
charlie-tcaara: password for brainstorm does not work in tracker?14:45
aracharlie-tca, not anymore14:45
aracharlie-tca, they are now different systems14:46
charlie-tcaah, so we need to update the tracker wiki page again14:46
aracharlie-tca, mmm, true14:46
alourie|workara, charlie-tca: and "create a new user" page on qa tracker, as it mentions brainstorm14:47
charlie-tcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures updated14:48
araalourie|work, btw, people are reporting not getting the password email when creating an account14:49
araalourie|work, I am investigating now14:49
alourie|workara: yep, that is indeed true.14:50
alourie|workand I though I gave incorrect email :-)14:50
alourie|workcharlie-tca: btw, why isn't it possible to login with Launchpad account? That would only make sense...15:01
charlie-tcaDifferent machines completely. I think that is planned for the future, though.15:01
charlie-tcaThis was all setup before it was possible to use the single-sign-on, too15:02
alourie|workwhat software drives the tracker?15:04
* alourie|work is thinking how to automate testing15:04
araalourie|work, it is a drupal instance with an in-house module15:05
araalourie|work, lp:ubuntu-qa-website15:05
araalourie|work, wanna gives a hand? :)15:05
alourie|workara: absolutely15:05
alourie|workara: I'm just looking now at the test cases, and, well, besides the installation itself many of them can be automated15:06
araalourie|work, yes, and the installation itself as well (at least in KVM). Using kvm-autotest seems like a good approach15:07
* alourie|work is reading about kvm-autotest15:07
araalourie|work, the email sent should be fixed now, just request a password reset15:09
alourie|workara: lets see15:10
araalourie|work, cool15:10
alourie|workok, so to mark that I began test I just select it as 'started', right?15:15
araalourie|work, right15:17
alourie|workthanks for the help15:18
araalourie|work, thanks to you15:18
alourie|workara: I haven't done nothing yet :-)15:18
araalourie|work, btw, if you're interested in kvm-autotest, this is the closest soren got:15:19
arathey are not up-to-date but by that time, he automated all server tests (including installation)15:19
alourie|workara: wow, that's just so over my head....for now. I will look into it :-)15:21
charlie-tcaxubuntu appears to have three panel applets flashing in the middle of the desktop now. jockey, gnome-volume-control, and network-manager. They are icon sized windows that won't quit flashing over and over15:24
charlie-tcaWhat to reprot the bug against?15:24
charlie-tcaThey are stealing all the processor, too.15:25
bladernr_ara, I know the desktop ISOs aren't ready (if I read correctly, it's only alternate and server that are ready to test), but are the bits there at least to do the upgrade testing to Maverick?15:33
aracharlie-tca, wow that's weird15:35
arabladernr_, I think so, as the packages are in the archive15:35
bladernr_ara:  cool, I'll try a Karmic - Maverick for great justice ;-)15:35
arabladernr_, that's not an upgrade path, I think15:36
bladernr_yeah, just discovered that15:36
moustafabladernr_ I think the upgrade paths make you go through each release15:36
bladernr_oh well, was worth a shot, so now it'll be Karmic - Lucid - Maverick15:36
arait is only Ubuntu -> Ubuntu15:36
arait is only Ubuntu -> Ubuntu +115:36
araor LTS -> LTS +115:36
bladernr_though I HAVE noticed a few times in various mailing lists that users DO (and they have done so historically) things like version - 3 -> version15:37
bladernr_or more easily, version -> version +315:38
bladernr_not that I'm saying we need to support that kind of wackiness15:38
moustafaI usually just go for a clean install by wiping the root drive.  I love the separation of /home and /15:40
* alourie|work needs to reboot15:42
sbeattiebladernr_: it's a little confusing because what ara said was mostly true, but there was also support for kubuntu updates going from 8.04 straight to 9.04 and 9.10 (IIRC on the latter).16:41
sbeattieBut generally, skipping releases is not a supported upgrade path.16:41
alourie|workwould some curses garbage be considered a bug in server install?16:41
sbeattiealourie|work: you're seeing it in the installer?16:42
arathen yes, it is a bug16:42
alourie|work(and have a screenshot to prove it)16:42
araalourie|work, create a bug against debian-installer16:43
alourie|workara: ok. Should I attach the screenshot?16:44
araalourie|work, yes, please16:44
araalourie|work, then, if the installation finishes correctly, mark the test as "Passed" (Failed are only for really bad bugs), but make sure to add the bug number16:45
alourie|workara: the bug itself is on ubuntu, right?16:46
araalourie|work, is on the debian-installer in ubuntu16:46
araalourie|work, let me find a link for you16:46
alourie|workara: awesome, thanks16:46
araOK, calling it a day16:53
sbeattieara: thanks, have a good evening16:54
alourie|workhm, what do I do with this thingie: http://img210.imageshack.us/f/loginz.png ? File another bug?16:57
charlie-tcawhich image?16:59
charlie-tcaIt looks like a bug in the bash-completion-scripts. Is that the server install?17:00
alourie|workcharlie-tca: yes17:00
alourie|workvanilla iso17:00
charlie-tcaThen, yes, it is another bug to be filed, but the install will be a pass17:01
alourie|workand file it against bash-completion-scripts?17:02
* alourie|work will continue a bit later17:03
matumbasee https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/54679417:05
ubot4Launchpad bug 546794 in bash-completion (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Smarter lib* aware autocompletion? (affects: 26) (dups: 7) (heat: 198)" [Medium,New]17:05
charlie-tcaso, just add the bug number to the tracker17:06
bladernr_Ok.. stupid question... to do the upgrade testing, at this point do I need to edit the sources list to point somewhere, or should update-manager -d -c at this stage catch the Maverick updates?17:15
sbeattiebladernr_: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/maverick.tar.gz is there, so I would think that update-manager should catch it.17:20
bladernr_hrmmm... ok...17:24
bladernr_it's not, so bug or maybe just wait until the next milestone...17:24
bladernr_sbeattie:  yeah, no luck with update-manager -d -c, also do-release-upgrade -d also says "No new release found"17:33
bladernr_and I DO have network connectivity17:34
sbeattiebladernr_: does it find it if /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is changed from lts to normal?17:43
sbeattiebladernr_: ah, yep, changing that causes it to be detected.17:46
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bladernr_So... metacity appears to be broken20:00
bladernr_or at least, upgrade breaks it20:00
fader_bladernr_: My guess is that if you ask cr3 he'll tell you that window managers are for wimps20:02
bladernr_I'd be inclined to agree with him to a point20:03
bladernr_but pr0n looks much better in a GUI than in ASCII20:03
cyphermoxas long as you're not in a pure vt, you're using a wm :)20:05
fader_alt-f2 ; gnome-terminal ; f11 ; killall metacity # ;)20:19
moustafafader_ If cr3 could have his way, we'd all be using Lynx with vi20:39
moustafaWhile eating croissants20:39
fader_moustafa: Heh, true.  He doesn't realize that it's all about w3m, nano, and cheese danish :)20:40

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