| Pendulum | I got an e-mail from someone who'd read the interview on fride letting me know about foss groups/events in NYC, kinda too bad I'm not still there | 00:23 |
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| Pendulum | (although I knew of most of them) | 00:23 |
| maco | i saw two people expire instead of extend this week | 01:05 |
| maco | there are no women on the americas agenda either | 01:05 |
| maco | (weren't last week and not yet for this month) | 01:06 |
| elky | detrate, yeah, sorry, typo | 02:37 |
| detrate | ^_^ | 02:38 |
| detrate | I thought it was a bit empty when I joined "projects" | 02:38 |
| elky | should forward now | 02:45 |
| Mamarok | what the... I can't join the other channel anymore, where I am ano op, any ideas? | 04:28 |
| elly | Mamarok: /msg chanserv invite #ubuntu-women | 04:29 |
| Mamarok | which makes no sens, if everytime I log off I have to ivite myself in again, something is wrong in the settings | 04:29 |
| hypatia | Mamarok: that's how it works when a channel is invite-only :/ | 04:30 |
| hypatia | even if you're an op | 04:30 |
| hypatia | you have to get chanserv to invite you | 04:30 |
| Mamarok | oh my, I will forget to join half of the time, guess why I set autojoins... | 04:31 |
| rww | Mamarok: You should be able to get in without an invite now, assuming that you're identified first, and that I did it right. | 04:31 |
| Mamarok | well, I am always identified, and I was not able to join, luckily I am ops in the -invite channel and was able to | 04:31 |
| Mamarok | so somrthing is wrong in the settings | 04:32 |
| elly | here, I'll invex you | 04:32 |
| rww | elly: I just did | 04:32 |
| rww | Mamarok: yes, I just set it | 04:32 |
| Mamarok | elly: I am in, I invited myself, but still, I should be able to autojoin,as I am identified before I join any channel | 04:32 |
| Mamarok | ok, let's se if that works again | 04:33 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:16 |
| zz_ | 怎么都是英文 | 08:20 |
| maco | zz_: english channel | 08:20 |
| zz_ | zhe ge zen me yong de | 08:21 |
| AlanBell | !cn | 08:21 |
| ubot4 | For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk | 08:21 |
| zz_ | thank you | 08:21 |
| elky | hi :) | 08:22 |
| AlanBell | how come http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UbuntuMembers is showing as an immutable page for me even though I am logged in? | 08:42 |
| elly | wiki's locked due to ongoing vandalism | 08:42 |
| AlanBell | ah, so it is | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | not great during testimonial period of the leadership process | 08:43 |
| elky | It's been a fun day. | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | oh well, no hurry, I will edit it after half term ends and the silly people go back to school | 08:46 |
| AlanBell | gah, and the totally non-silly people who happen to be still at school :-) | 08:47 |
| AlanBell | this is what I was going to add http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uwgraph.png | 08:50 |
| summers | i would like to invite everyone to my new ubuntu channel, #ubuntu-faggots | 08:50 |
| summers | +o for everyone | 08:50 |
| elky | hmm, who expired? | 08:50 |
| summers | hi elky | 08:50 |
| AlanBell | elky: nobody expired | 08:51 |
| elky | immune from trolling i see. | 08:51 |
| AlanBell | yeah, ok :-) | 08:51 |
| rww | it's percentage, so more men -> line goes down | 08:51 |
| rww | nice graph, AlanBell :) | 08:51 |
| elky | rww, ah right | 08:52 |
| AlanBell | although I thought someone had, it was a profile rename | 08:52 |
| AlanBell | hypatia turned into a man for a month or two before I noticed :-) | 08:53 |
| elky | hehe | 08:53 |
| vish | AlanBell: what graph is that? increasing users/..? | 09:03 |
| rww | vish: percentage of Ubuntu Members that are female as a function of time | 09:04 |
| vish | rww: yeah , thats what i thought , but why are there dips? are there people who stop using Ubuntu ? | 09:05 |
| vish | rww: grr , nvm , it percentage :D | 09:06 |
| vish | its* | 09:06 |
| AlanBell | vish: yeah it is a percentage and there are 10 new people per month on average | 09:22 |
| AlanBell | so to maintain a flat line at 5% would require half a woman per month | 09:23 |
| AlanBell | or one every two months if you prefer | 09:23 |
| vish | AlanBell: pretty impressive that the *percentage* is on the raise | 09:23 |
| vish | rise* | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | curiously it isn't really since we started measuring it | 09:24 |
| elky | AlanBell, I do prefer women whole. | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | the graph goes back to 2005 where it really was zero for 6 months | 09:24 |
| rww | of course. if you measure a thing, you change it! | 09:24 |
| elky | Men too. Much less messy. | 09:24 |
| vish | lol! | 09:25 |
| AlanBell | so one of my theories on the graph is that Ubuntu actually does quite well in terms of the structures and standards in place | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | however Ubuntu didn't start from scratch | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | it was seeded in 2005 with a bunch of people from the debian community | 09:27 |
| elky | I think the consistancy of what membership is has been the biggest virtue | 09:27 |
| elky | some projects flipflop all over the place | 09:28 |
| elky | AlanBell, the structure/standards/governance has little to do with the debian roots though | 09:29 |
| AlanBell | the initial population does though | 09:29 |
| AlanBell | I think | 09:30 |
| elky | Not really if you take the average Debian contributor in to account. | 09:30 |
| elky | Debian people are wonderful, but the community stuff is a completely beast. | 09:30 |
| elky | er, completely /different/ beast | 09:31 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I don't know much about it tbh, all I see is the graph starting from zero | 09:33 |
| lun_ | hi | 13:37 |
| AlanBell | hi | 13:48 |
| elky | hi | 13:49 |
| AlanBell | ah lun_ left | 13:49 |
| elky | Yes. I wouldn't be too worried if I were you. | 13:50 |
| AlanBell | I will get over it | 13:51 |
| AlanBell | there are a few pages on the wiki that link to dead places on ubuntu.com | 17:21 |
| AlanBell | notably links to http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/council | 17:22 |
| AlanBell | I would fix them if the wiki wasn't locked | 17:22 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: nice disguie spammer :D | 17:23 |
| nigelb | kidding :p | 17:23 |
| AlanBell | :-) | 17:24 |
| AlanBell | I have been fixing the factoids | 17:24 |
| AlanBell | !member | 17:24 |
| ubot4 | Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 17:24 |
| AlanBell | yup, that one is done now | 17:24 |
| AlanBell | I did a search on wiki.ubuntu.com and that is an eating the elephant sized task to fix | 17:25 |
| AlanBell | wiki.ubuntu-women.org looks to be a small pony sized problem | 17:25 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: ask akgraner to get you editing rights. I think a few people can edit. | 17:26 |
| nigelb | or ask one of the sysadmins for rights | 17:27 |
| akgraner | I have emailed elmo already :-) | 17:29 |
| nigelb | akgraner: \0/ | 17:32 |
| akgraner | as soon as I know something I'll let everyone know - I know it's a but of a hassle but we'll keep them locked for a little while longer sorry for any frustrations or in convenience this causes anyone, please keep of list of things/pages that needs updating and again as soon as I know something I will let everyone know | 17:34 |
| nigelb | Actually, its a less inconveience locked up. | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | akgraner, elky and I all have admin there, so we can still edit pages | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | thats fine, the main reason I mentioned things here was to get them in the logs and visible to other people so I don't forget | 17:52 |
| pleia2 | just let us know :) | 17:52 |
| AlanBell | general edits can wait, however the testimonials may be an issue if it stays locked | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | ah, true | 17:53 |
| akgraner | hmmm - | 17:53 |
| akgraner | well we can unlock and just take shifts watching them? or - want me to move them to wiki.ubuntu.com | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | or ask people to put testimonials on our wiki.ubuntu.com pages | 17:54 |
| AlanBell | surely the wiki can be locked from anonymous edits | 17:55 |
| pleia2 | (no need to move everything, I think) | 17:55 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: these people had lp accounts, they weren't anonymous | 17:55 |
| AlanBell | oh :-( | 17:57 |
| akgraner | pleia2, I'm on call now but let me know if you need me to do anything | 17:58 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: thanks, I think we're ok for now (and I'm at work anyway) | 17:59 |
| airurando_ | Hello akgraner and elky | 21:02 |
| czajkowski | airurando_: hey | 21:02 |
| czajkowski | jsut to let folks know airurando_ daughter Orla won the 1st prize | 21:02 |
| airurando_ | Yes I'm logged in through webchat so not familiar with setup. | 21:03 |
| AlanBell | hi airurando_ | 21:03 |
| AlanBell | I have an Orla too | 21:03 |
| airurando_ | Hi AlanBell | 21:04 |
| maco | is that a popular name these days? | 21:04 |
| akgraner | hi airurando_ ! | 21:04 |
| AlanBell | it is an irish name, reasonably popular I think | 21:05 |
| AlanBell | I had never heard of it 8 years ago | 21:05 |
| airurando_ | Just wanted to say a very big thank you again to all the folks in here especially akgraner, elky and czajkowski. | 21:06 |
| akgraner | airurando_, you are very welcome! it was very exciting for all of us as well | 21:06 |
| airurando_ | AlanBell not as popular as you might think. Orlaith is possibly the more popular gaelic spelling | 21:07 |
| czajkowski | we do like to support our team members :) | 21:07 |
| AlanBell | I think there are three Orlas in the primary school that Orla goes to | 21:08 |
| AlanBell | in Surrey | 21:08 |
| airurando_ | akgraner She can't wait to get the interview questions. | 21:08 |
| czajkowski | and orla is coming along to the next Ubuntu hour | 21:08 |
| czajkowski | :) | 21:08 |
| akgraner | That is awesome! | 21:09 |
| airurando_ | AlanBell that is amazig. Never thought it was so popular. | 21:09 |
| MichelleQ | congrats airurando_ | 21:09 |
| czajkowski | airurando_: when orla get her laptop you'll have to show her IRC so she can log on in here | 21:09 |
| airurando_ | Thanks MichelleQ | 21:11 |
| airurando_ | czajkowski will do | 21:11 |
| AlanBell | there is #ubuntu-youth too for the younglings | 21:13 |
| czajkowski | didnt know that | 21:13 |
| MichelleQ | neither did I | 21:15 |
| * airurando_ didn't know that either | 21:15 | |
| airurando_ | AlanBell: what age profile hangs out in #ubuntu-youth? | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | no idea, I am too old! | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | issyl0: ^^ | 21:16 |
| airurando_ | Fair point | 21:16 |
| airurando_ | I promise I will get Orla to log in to this channel as one of her first tasks with the Terra A20. | 21:21 |
| czajkowski | good stuff | 21:22 |
| czajkowski | akgraner: I shall taake a photo of orla at the hour ;) | 21:22 |
| airurando_ | once again heartfelt thanks to all. I’m sure this competition will grow year on year. | 21:23 |
| czajkowski | aye should be good again next year | 21:23 |
| airurando_ | It is a great advocacy tool | 21:23 |
| airurando_ | must dash, bye for now. | 21:24 |
| valorie | haha, AlanBell - "younglings" has an enhanced meaning for Rob't Jordan fans | 23:17 |
| valorie | ;-) | 23:17 |
| AlanBell | oh? | 23:18 |
| AlanBell | it was a starwars reference | 23:18 |
| valorie | hmmm, I don't recall that one | 23:18 |
| valorie | googling.... | 23:18 |
| AlanBell | Anakin went to the Jedi temple and killed all the younglings as he turned to the dark side | 23:19 |
| rww | ah, it's from the prequels that I didn't watch ;P | 23:19 |
| valorie | me either | 23:19 |
| AlanBell | they are the children who are strong in the force and have the potential to become Jedi | 23:19 |
| valorie | the Younglings in the Wheel of Time series are a sort of youth army | 23:20 |
| valorie | created out of one of the conflicts | 23:21 |
| valorie | these young men are also powerful, or have the potential | 23:22 |
| AlanBell | googling.... | 23:22 |
| valorie | so it's a nice ring to it | 23:22 |
| AlanBell | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_Initiate there is a page all about them on "Wookieepedia" | 23:24 |
| AlanBell | and I was being species neutral, how about that for political correctness! | 23:25 |
| valorie | oops, this should have been in the other chan | 23:29 |
| valorie | sorry | 23:29 |
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