claydoh | apachelogger: email sent, hope it is at least somewhat useful | 00:04 |
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apachelogger | ohm :/ | 00:07 |
apachelogger | claydoh: thanks | 00:07 |
ryanakca | Riddell: Sure, have it ready? | 00:32 |
Riddell | ryanakca: yo | 00:39 |
Riddell | ryanakca: 4.4.4 is in the updates PPA, you can probably just copy and update the | 00:39 |
Riddell | the 4.4.3 article | 00:39 |
ryanakca | Riddell: OK | 00:49 |
ryanakca | Riddell: Shall we put the gears part of the Kubuntu logo as the hackergotchi for our feed on planet.ubuntu.com? | 00:49 |
ryanakca | In any case, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.4.4 | 00:52 |
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valorie | folks, I have no time for fixing right now, but updated KDE today | 03:05 |
valorie | and now amarok will not start | 03:05 |
valorie | freshly built from git -- still no go | 03:06 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133572 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (7 files) Use the Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE and Q_D macros for 100% const correctness apachelogger: ^ | 03:57 |
JontheEchidna | QApt::Package does need a lot of work. And a private class, for that matter. | 03:57 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133573 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/cache.h These aren't really slots... | 03:59 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133575 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) These should be const | 04:02 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133580 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) More const correctness fixes. Warning, breaks ABI. Better now than later, though. | 04:20 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: when you have time https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging/+packages | 04:31 |
lex79 | and retry this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wally/2.3.2-0ubuntu1/+build/1745535 | 04:32 |
lex79 | and this: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rkward/0.5.3-2/+build/1745900 | 04:32 |
lex79 | thanks :) | 04:32 |
JontheEchidna | lex79: builds retried. Unless somebody gets to those packages first, I'll sponsor them tomorrow morning | 04:32 |
* JontheEchidna wanders off to bed | 04:33 | |
lex79 | yeah | 04:33 |
ScottK | Riddell: We need NCommander. kdebindings just FTBFS on armel with one of his favorites .... | 05:27 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna++ | 09:17 |
apachelogger | oh oh oh | 09:33 |
apachelogger | claydoh: I think I have an idea why your ubuntuone-auth terminates | 09:34 |
apachelogger | not why authing fails though | 09:34 |
KRF | apachelogger: 384MB, afaik | 09:50 |
apachelogger | kthx | 09:51 |
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Riddell | maverick works! | 11:18 |
Riddell | but why on earth do I have two panels? http://jasmine.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/maverick.png | 11:18 |
KRF | 2 > 1 | 11:24 |
KRF | Riddell: what icon set is this? | 11:25 |
Riddell | oh don't start that again | 11:28 |
Tm_T | KRF: defaults, so oxygen + air | 11:29 |
apachelogger | Riddell: one coming from plasma and one coming from us I suppose | 11:33 |
Riddell | lucky us | 11:34 |
apachelogger | depends on the POV ^^ | 11:36 |
jussi | ooh, interesting... | 11:37 |
jussi | maverick looks fun! | 11:37 |
jussi | I think it might be VM install time... | 11:37 |
apachelogger | Oo | 11:47 |
* apachelogger is apparenlty too stupid to read from a binary file -.- | 11:47 | |
Riddell | jussi: it didn't work for me in a virtualbox VM, KDM crashes on startup | 11:48 |
apparle | guys I have installed kdevelop but I donot get anything when I type d-> ? what could be the problem | 11:48 |
jussi | Riddell: ahh :( | 11:48 |
apparle | the project uses Q_Q and Q_D. Do I need to have any more packages installed to use them | 11:50 |
apachelogger | do you actually use the Q_D macro in the function? | 11:51 |
apachelogger | maybe kdevelop is just silly though | 11:51 |
apparle | apachelogger: yes I have used it | 11:51 |
apachelogger | then probably kdevelop is bugged | 11:51 |
apachelogger | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!position: 13 | 11:51 |
apachelogger | read: 1 | 11:51 |
apachelogger | position: 15 | 11:51 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about position: 13 | 11:51 |
apachelogger | can someone explain that? | 11:51 |
apachelogger | that is a ifsream and for some reason it goes from 13 to 15 :/ | 11:51 |
apparle | apachelogger: and when I keep my mouse over Q_D it says Q_D is not defined, so it seems it is not taking the macro defination. | 11:53 |
apachelogger | hm | 11:53 |
apparle | apachelogger: and considering qt recommends not to use Q_D, do I need a -dev package installed | 11:53 |
apachelogger | maybe you should use the Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE macro first :P | 11:53 |
apachelogger | otherwise Q_D will indeed not be AFAIK | 11:53 |
apparle | apachelogger: all that is done | 11:54 |
apachelogger | well | 11:54 |
apachelogger | it would help if you could upload the code somewhere | 11:54 |
apparle | apachelogger: its shaman code, in playground/sysadmin, I am just modifying a function | 11:55 |
apachelogger | apparle: did you introduce dptrs or was this there already? | 11:55 |
apparle | apachelogger: did you get my message? | 12:02 |
apachelogger | no | 12:02 |
apparle | apachelogger: the code is in playground/sysadmin/shaman | 12:03 |
apachelogger | yeah | 12:03 |
apachelogger | there is a lot of code | 12:03 |
apparle | apachelogger: in libshaman/coreplugin.cpp | 12:03 |
apparle | apachelogger: in libshaman/shamancoreplugin.cpp | 12:03 |
apachelogger | works here | 12:04 |
apachelogger | also there are already Q_D usages throughout that file | 12:04 |
apparle | apachelogger: ya that's what I said, so why doesn't it work at my place. | 12:05 |
apparle | apachelogger: do I need to have some qt dev package? or kde dev package? | 12:05 |
apachelogger | [12:51:28] <apachelogger> then probably kdevelop is bugged | 12:05 |
apachelogger | Q_D is defined in qglobal.h | 12:06 |
apachelogger | you cannot do anything without that file to begin with | 12:06 |
apparle | apachelogger: and that file is in which kubuntu package | 12:06 |
apachelogger | dunno | 12:06 |
apachelogger | libqt4-dev probably | 12:06 |
apparle | apachelogger: there is some command for apt isn't it? | 12:07 |
apachelogger | huh? | 12:07 |
apachelogger | what command? | 12:07 |
JontheEchidna | !find qglobal.h | 12:07 |
ubottu | File qglobal.h found in libqt3-headers, libqt4-dev | 12:07 |
JontheEchidna | !info dlocate | 12:07 |
ubottu | dlocate (source: dlocate): fast alternative to dpkg -L and dpkg -S. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.02 (lucid), package size 22 kB, installed size 168 kB | 12:07 |
JontheEchidna | dlocate qglobals.h, for local magic | 12:08 |
apparle | apachelogger: ok thanks I'll check if I have libqt4-dev | 12:08 |
apparle | apachelogger: I have it installed | 12:09 |
apachelogger | [13:05:32] <apachelogger> [12:51:28] <apachelogger> then probably kdevelop is bugged | 12:10 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: btw, have you seen that ubuntuone-kde build failure on amd64? Happens locally for me, too | 12:11 |
apachelogger | yeah | 12:11 |
apachelogger | its because of the static linking most likely | 12:11 |
apparle | apachelogger: I am not getting options for any objects for that particular project only, any ideas | 12:26 |
apachelogger | apparle: #kdevelop | 12:26 |
apachelogger | if that exists | 12:26 |
apparle | apachelogger: it does, but ususally I don't get any reply :( | 12:27 |
apachelogger | well | 12:27 |
apachelogger | I do not use ugly software | 12:27 |
apachelogger | so I am of no help with kdevelop | 12:27 |
apparle | apachelogger: kdevelop seems good to me, but it doesn't have any damn documentation :( | 12:28 |
apparle | apachelogger: do you know any other ide. or how to import a cmake project in qtcreator | 12:46 |
apparle | what is the name of package of kde4 dev files | 12:59 |
Tm_T | kde-devel - the K Desktop Environment development files and modules | 13:01 |
apparle | Tm_T: how come kdevelop doesn't install them | 13:04 |
Tm_T | apparle: because it doesn't need them to be able to run and work? | 13:05 |
apparle | Tm_T: ohh | 13:05 |
Tm_T | apparle: ofcourse if you want to develop, let's say, plasma, you would need to install related headers then | 13:06 |
apparle | Tm_T: there should be some tutorial or something, for getting started in kde development in kubuntu etc | 13:07 |
* txwikinger wonders what he could do today | 13:11 | |
apparle | Tm_T: apachelogger: I didn't have kde dev libraries so kdevelop was not working, thanks | 13:33 |
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JontheEchidna | neat, we can sync kde-style-qtcurve now \o/ | 13:42 |
ScottK | Riddell: Your netbook install worked? | 13:54 |
Riddell | ScottK: yes indeed | 13:55 |
ScottK | OK. I think I'll upgrade my netbook for real so I have an actual test platform again. | 13:55 |
Riddell | ah well, upgrade, that's unchartered territory | 13:57 |
ScottK | Certainly. | 14:01 |
ScottK | I work very hard to make sure there's nothing on the netbook I actually care about. | 14:01 |
ScottK | If it dies, it dies. | 14:01 |
* ScottK reinstalled it twice during UDS. | 14:02 | |
JontheEchidna | Nice, kubuntu-notification-helper actually got translated in 10.04: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/49553208/wrong_kubuntu.png | 14:25 |
ScottK | Lucid -> Maverick i386 upgrade test in progres .... | 14:28 |
shadeslayer | Maverick iso up for testing ;) | 14:28 |
JontheEchidna | So, in 10.04 kpackagekit depends on kdebase-workspace-bin. It did this because the policykit-kde dialog used to be in that package in 9.10. Would it be SRU-worthy to change this dependency? | 14:28 |
JontheEchidna | since kdebase-runtime recommends kubuntu-debug-installer which depends on kpackagekit, all KDE apps in lucid bring in kdebase-workspace | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | i wonder if the maverick iso has 4.5 packages... | 14:29 |
ScottK | Could it be called a regression? | 14:29 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: 4.5 beta, yes. | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: oh awesome.. ill probably install it then :P | 14:29 |
ScottK | Not ones you can install on Lucid though. | 14:30 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: of course ;) | 14:30 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Qt 4.7 beta too. | 14:30 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: Previous releases did not require so much KDE to run simple KDE applications, and technically the dependency is wrong. | 14:30 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: Archlinux+Kubuntu Maverick== Will be Awesome | 14:30 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: Then it's a regression and SRU worthy. Particularly since it's a low risk change. | 14:31 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Archlinux is really off topic here. | 14:31 |
JontheEchidna | OK | 14:31 |
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Riddell | ScottK, JontheEchidna: if we're talking SRUs and changing lucid seeds, we had a request from calc to add ttf-liberation | 14:33 |
Riddell | else openoffice defaults to poor fonts | 14:33 |
ScottK | OK. I can do that when I do kdebase-plasma | 14:34 |
ScottK | Riddell: Is there a bug for that? | 14:34 |
Riddell | ScottK: not that I know of | 14:34 |
Riddell | but we'd need to check how it affects CD size | 14:34 |
ScottK | Right. | 14:35 |
ScottK | Installed size is ~1MB. | 14:36 |
Riddell | and I think all our images have >1MB to spare | 14:37 |
Riddell | yes they do | 14:41 |
Riddell | ScottK: launchpad.net/bugs/588723 | 14:58 |
Riddell | ScottK: added to lucid seed so if you're rebuilding kubuntu-meta check that gets in too | 15:18 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133812 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (qaptbatch.cpp qaptbatch.h) Split out the DBus calls to the QApt worker into a function. | 15:21 |
ScottK | Riddell: Will do. | 15:24 |
ScottK | Maverick upgrade went fine. | 15:24 |
ScottK | Riddell: Are the panel and related popups supposed to be transparent? | 15:26 |
ScottK | semi-transparent, really. | 15:26 |
ScottK | It totally doesn't work for netbook with the autohide panel at the top. | 15:26 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: I think the patch you did for the plasma-netbook startup transition needs another look. The screen went black for a bit after KDM went away. | 15:28 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: ksplash seems broken in general in 4.5 | 15:28 |
ScottK | OK. | 15:28 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: are you on a 64 bit machine? | 15:28 |
ScottK | No | 15:29 |
JontheEchidna | hmm, ok. Is the blur kwin plugin enabled? | 15:29 |
ScottK | How do I tell? | 15:29 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: well, it seems broken for you since you report very transparent popups, but you can check in System Settings -> Desktop Effects | 15:30 |
ScottK | OK. | 15:30 |
shadeslayer_ | Blur works in lucid though | 15:31 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: It's enabled. | 15:32 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: ok, disable that, and plasma should fall back to a sane background | 15:32 |
ScottK | Thanks. Is that a known issue? | 15:32 |
* shadeslayer_ mumbles as Rosseta spams his inbox... | 15:32 | |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: It was for amd64 | 15:32 |
ScottK | Is there a bug I should comment on then? | 15:33 |
JontheEchidna | The 64 bit bug was fixed post-beta. I'd guess that similar symptoms on a 32-bit are a separate issue | 15:34 |
ScottK | Hmm. | 15:35 |
ScottK | Still semi-transparent. | 15:35 |
JontheEchidna | better, at least? | 15:35 |
ScottK | Slightly | 15:36 |
shadeslayer_ | JontheEchidna: with the ksplash,i think there was a discussion about removing it in general from maverick | 15:36 |
shadeslayer_ | not sure though | 15:36 |
JontheEchidna | shadeslayer_: unrelated | 15:37 |
JontheEchidna | it's just broken | 15:37 |
ScottK | Nice. Screensaver is totally transparent too. | 15:39 |
JontheEchidna | O.o | 15:40 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133815 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (qaptbatch.cpp qaptbatch.h) Stub our an errorOccurred function. I need a function to create KMessageBoxes for errors next, so that I don't have to do all the code for creating a KMessageBox each time I want to use one for errors | 15:43 |
ScottK | Any idea where screen saver settings are in the new systemsetting layout? | 15:46 |
Riddell | Display and Monitor of course | 15:49 |
ScottK | Right. | 15:52 |
ScottK | Looks like we lost userconfig when the advanced tab went away. | 15:53 |
JontheEchidna | userconfig is in Lost and Found here | 16:08 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133821 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (qaptbatch.cpp qaptbatch.h) Full error reporting support. Once LibQApt supports reporting non-fatal warnings, qapt-batch should get support for these as well. | 16:08 |
JontheEchidna | (bottommost category) | 16:08 |
ScottK | Right. Scroll bar was too subtle for me. Thanks. | 16:09 |
JontheEchidna | I think that "Device actions" should go inside "Removable Devices" | 16:11 |
Riddell | whee, maverick install CDs a doing well | 16:19 |
Riddell | ScottK: really no problems with upgrade? | 16:20 |
ScottK | Riddell: The resulting desktop has some rough edges, but no upgrade issues at all. | 16:21 |
Riddell | ScottK: did you just do a dist-upgrade? | 16:21 |
ScottK | Riddell: I used the command line do-release-upgrade tool, but I watched for file conflicts and there weren't any. | 16:21 |
Riddell | lovely | 16:22 |
ScottK | Riddell: The biggest issue is that panel transparency does not work at all on netbook. | 16:22 |
Riddell | for an alpha 1 that's not a big issue I'd say | 16:23 |
ScottK | Typically stuff is popping over areas that have lots of text and things end up unreadable. | 16:23 |
Riddell | might even be an upstream bug | 16:23 |
ScottK | Riddell: For Kubuntu Alpha 1 it's a detail. For KDE 4.5 beta, it worries me. | 16:23 |
ScottK | Yes. | 16:23 |
ScottK | That's why I didn't put it in the ISO tracker. | 16:24 |
Riddell | might be http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235620 except it happens on i386 too | 16:25 |
ubottu | KDE bug 235620 in visuals "Blur shadow around widgets does not smoothly fade out" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 16:25 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133826 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp globals.h group.h) Further header guard tightening | 16:26 |
ScottK | I guess we'll see. | 16:29 |
ScottK | Riddell: Clearly the only explanation for the smooth upgrade is it must be that Keybuk has been on holiday. | 16:29 |
Quintasan | seriously | 16:34 |
Quintasan | something is wrong with network-manager | 16:34 |
Quintasan | I do "sudo start network-manager" and KNetworkManager says - "Network Managment disabled" | 16:36 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133832 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp (log message trimmed) | 16:38 |
CIA-91 | Unfortunately KProgressDialog has an auto-show feature that I seem to have no | 16:38 |
CIA-91 | control over. A blank KProgressDialog looks a bit unsettling, so at least say | 16:38 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: thanks :) | 16:39 |
JontheEchidna | lex79: yup, no prob | 16:39 |
lex79 | do we are in freeze for main? | 16:40 |
JontheEchidna | yes | 16:40 |
Quintasan | JontheEchidna: did you review my ktorrent merge? | 16:40 |
JontheEchidna | Quintasan: If you asked, I forgot :s | 16:41 |
Quintasan | well, it's not like we have a freeze coming, is it? | 16:41 |
Quintasan | please do it at some point | 16:41 |
JontheEchidna | sure. sorry about forgetting | 16:43 |
Quintasan | no probs :D | 16:45 |
* Quintasan is forgetting more things anyways | 16:45 | |
shadeslayer_ | were in freeze? | 16:47 |
shadeslayer_ | \o/ | 16:47 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer_: wth are you babbling about? | 16:47 |
Quintasan | no freeze plox | 16:47 |
* Quintasan has moar translating to do that he had during lucid | 16:48 | |
shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: 21:10 < lex79> do we are in freeze for main? | 16:48 |
Quintasan | oh gawd | 16:49 |
Quintasan | ktorrent is in main >_< | 16:49 |
shadeslayer_ | Quintasan: i was just confirming if we were in freeze or not... since i dont think we are | 16:49 |
Riddell | we are | 16:49 |
Quintasan | :< | 16:49 |
Riddell | subcription to ubuntu-devel-announce advised | 16:49 |
* Quintasan goes and subscribes | 16:50 | |
Quintasan | and creates a filter in KMail | 16:50 |
* shadeslayer_ likes his mail to be stored online and not take up precious disk space | 16:50 | |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: when was the announcement made? | 16:52 |
shadeslayer_ | apparently im subscribed to that ml :P | 16:52 |
Riddell | May 31 Martin Pitt ( 97) [ubuntu-devel-announce] Maverick Alpha 1 freeze ahead | 16:53 |
Riddell | it's also in the #ubuntu-devel topic | 16:53 |
shadeslayer_ | hmm | 16:54 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: btw the schedule doesnt mention the freeze | 16:58 |
Riddell | no, it's assumed developers know | 16:58 |
Riddell | I think I found a bug in maverick, k3b can't burn a CD | 16:59 |
* Riddell wonders how to test the amd64 alternate | 16:59 | |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: i would have tested it,but it doesnt boot off a USB stick :P | 16:59 |
Riddell | boots fine off usb here | 16:59 |
shadeslayer_ | and since we also have live cd's im testing that | 16:59 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: alternate CD? | 17:00 |
Riddell | should do yes, that's how I installed i386 | 17:00 |
Riddell | and seems a good answer to my questions of how I should test amd64 alternate :) | 17:00 |
shadeslayer_ | use a VM :P | 17:01 |
Riddell | VMs not working so well it seems, both me and ara had it fail at login | 17:01 |
shadeslayer_ | my zsync is almost complete,lets see where it gets in a VM | 17:02 |
agateau | ScottK: hi | 17:11 |
agateau | ScottK: before I leave, your pony has arrived | 17:11 |
agateau | ScottK: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~agateau/plasma-widget-message-indicator/trunk/revision/137 | 17:12 |
Riddell | agateau: where's the updated plasma menu source? | 17:12 |
agateau | ScottK: or at least it has been commited | 17:12 |
agateau | Riddell: in LP | 17:12 |
* agateau grabs the url | 17:12 | |
agateau | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/plasma-widget-menubar/+download | 17:13 |
Riddell | thanks, I'll get that up shortly | 17:13 |
* agateau just realized the tarball name is weird | 17:13 | |
agateau | it seems this lp-project-upload needs a fix | 17:13 |
agateau | ScottK: will do a release tomorrow | 17:14 |
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=== JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Archive frozen for alpha 1 | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ninjas packaging: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/4.4.4 4.5 beta https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | \o \o ScottK is now Debian overlord o/ o/ | Fluffy will be based on Kubuntu | ||
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: hmm.. i just get a white screen after logging in ( in VM ) and apparently i think there are 2 panels,one at the top and the bottom one | 17:34 |
Riddell | shadeslayer_: that's what ara reported | 17:35 |
Riddell | 2 panels is know | 17:35 |
Riddell | white screen is strange and mysterious | 17:35 |
Riddell | can you do alt-f2 and start konsole? | 17:35 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: yes | 17:35 |
Riddell | and that works fine? | 17:36 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: nope.. | 17:36 |
Riddell | what's up? | 17:36 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: seems it doesnt detect X11 | 17:37 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: i typed konsole in the tty btw | 17:37 |
Riddell | how do you mean "doesnt detect X11"? | 17:37 |
shadeslayer_ | hold on | 17:38 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: http://imagebin.ca/view/ydGe5w.html | 17:38 |
Riddell | that's not a white screen | 17:39 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: oh you want the white screenshot? | 17:39 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: http://imagebin.ca/view/wZ7nXk.html | 17:40 |
Riddell | right, and can you do alt-f2 konsole from there? | 17:41 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: nope... alt+f2 doesnt start krunner | 17:42 |
Riddell | what happens if you go to the linux console and run killall plasma-desktop | 17:43 |
Riddell | then switch back to X | 17:43 |
shadeslayer_ | lemme switch to kvm | 17:44 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133845 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp More grammatically correct way to report speed | 17:44 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133846 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Don't report speed at all if speed is zero. It's common for there to not be a speed estimate while apt is downloading things | 17:46 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: done.. | 17:47 |
Riddell | shadeslayer_: what happens? | 17:48 |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: x is all white :P | 17:48 |
Riddell | hmm | 17:48 |
Riddell | what happens if you go to a linux console and killall kwin ? | 17:48 |
shadeslayer_ | same thing :P | 17:49 |
Riddell | all a mystery then | 17:50 |
shadeslayer_ | hehe :D | 17:51 |
* shadeslayer_ tries install only mode | 17:53 | |
shadeslayer_ | Riddell: well it starts,but the buttons are not with the theme... | 17:54 |
shadeslayer_ | s/with/go with | 17:54 |
shadeslayer_ | well.. if you boot the install only mode,and quit,then you get a black screen instead of a white one :P | 17:55 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133861 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (cache.h package.h) Redocumenting the QApt namespace in each header should not be necessary | 18:30 |
ScottK | apachelogger: Can I install fluffy profiles for just one user? I've got one person who I think is in the core fluffy demographic. | 18:39 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133867 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Hide the cancel button during commits since we can't safely cancel during that stage. | 18:42 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: the Live cd works :P | 18:48 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: on real hardware or VM? | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | not in a VM,but if you burn it to your USB/CD,everything comes up fine | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | real hardware | 18:49 |
Riddell | strange that, but good | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | couldnt connect to a wep network though.. | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | its a bit slow to start things up,but i think that was more of a transition effect... | 18:50 |
shadeslayer | everything else seemed fine,i could mount and unmount partitions with dolphin | 18:50 |
shadeslayer | ubiquity starts up,i tried it till the manual partitioning section.. | 18:51 |
shadeslayer | totally weird that it doesnt start up in a VM | 18:52 |
txwikinger | Riddell: anything else waiting for packaging? | 18:54 |
Riddell | we still have some universe merges I think | 18:55 |
CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1133872 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp It's not really worth it to bother with plurals for window titles, so give a less descriptive window title. (The info's already in the dialog label) Also, change the window title when an install/removal is completed | 18:56 |
Riddell | kphotoalbum | 18:56 |
Riddell | ktechlab | 18:57 |
Riddell | kst | 18:57 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: added result to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4220/51 | 18:57 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: btw i hope you have some packaging work after the 11th of this month | 18:57 |
JontheEchidna | Hmm, I think I'm just about at the point where I say, "try to break qapt-batch" | 18:58 |
Riddell | packaging is not something we tend to run out of | 18:58 |
shadeslayer | :D | 18:58 |
Riddell | thanks shadeslayer | 18:58 |
ScottK | txwikinger: I noticed the upcoming bug day is for compiz. It might be nice to have a companion kwin bug session. | 18:58 |
txwikinger | ScottK: I already liaised with the QA team | 18:59 |
ScottK | Cool. | 18:59 |
txwikinger | I will be doing bug days on Monday to spread it around a little | 18:59 |
* JontheEchidna notes we only have 4 kwin bugs | 18:59 | |
txwikinger | I was thinking doing kdenetwork bugs on Monday | 18:59 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: no problem.. :) | 18:59 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: Well that was part of my point. "Wow, you have 80 compiz bugs? We only have 4 kwin bugs." | 19:00 |
JontheEchidna | :P | 19:00 |
JontheEchidna | considering we have 1/4 the users, that's still quite good | 19:00 |
txwikinger | ? More users == more bugs? | 19:01 |
ScottK | More users don't make the software more broken. | 19:01 |
txwikinger | maybe we should not have any users :D | 19:01 |
JontheEchidna | :D | 19:01 |
ScottK | The best way to have no bugs is do no testing. | 19:01 |
ScottK | Actually no bug tracker is better. | 19:01 |
mgraesslin | send your bug triagers upstream for kwin - we have 420 ;-) | 19:01 |
ScottK | txwikinger: ^^^ | 19:01 |
txwikinger | ScottK: that is only no visible bugs | 19:01 |
txwikinger | can we triage in the KDE bugtracker? | 19:02 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: btw are we moving to a new backend in 10.10 for kpk? | 19:02 |
ScottK | Not afaik, but I'm not tracking it. | 19:02 |
JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: the aptcc packagekit backend, once dist-upgrade support is implemented | 19:02 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: oh awesome :D | 19:03 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: how much better is it? | 19:03 |
JontheEchidna | it should be more robust than the current python-apt based backend | 19:03 |
* shadeslayer notes that he can install the same in lucid | 19:03 | |
JontheEchidna | sudo apt-get install packagekit-backend-apt; then edit /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf | 19:04 |
JontheEchidna | DefaultBackend=aptcc | 19:04 |
JontheEchidna | er | 19:05 |
JontheEchidna | packagekit-backend-aptcc | 19:05 |
JontheEchidna | ^.^ | 19:05 |
JontheEchidna | sudo apt-get install packagekit-backend-aptcc; then edit /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf to DefaultBackend=aptcc | 19:05 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: do you take care of planetkde-ish things? | 19:06 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: kpackagekit: symbol lookup error: kpackagekit: undefined symbol: _ZN13KCMultiDialog16staticMetaObjectE | 19:09 |
JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: lucid? | 19:09 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: yeah,but just hold on | 19:09 |
JontheEchidna | somebody should upload the kde4libs with the ABI fix | 19:09 |
shadeslayer | yep :) | 19:10 |
JontheEchidna | then we could probably release the packages for lucid... | 19:10 |
ScottK | Do we have it in Maverick already? | 19:11 |
shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: any idea how i can upgrade with pkcon? | 19:12 |
JontheEchidna | ScottK: yeah, the abi fix is in maverick | 19:12 |
ScottK | OK. Great. | 19:12 |
JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: looks like pkcon only supports install and remove | 19:13 |
shadeslayer | :P | 19:13 |
Tonio_ | hi there | 19:48 |
Tonio_ | I get a little trouble with kontact | 19:48 |
Tonio_ | contacts in akonadi seem to be completly broken, can someone confirm ? | 19:48 |
Tonio_ | all I get when I try to add a new address book I get this : Could not add address book: Agent instance creation timed out | 19:50 |
apachelogger | ScottK: currently you can since the git branch does not take over the kubuntu profile, but just installs stuff into appropriate dirs | 20:06 |
apachelogger | not sure how to handle this in the future though | 20:06 |
ScottK | If this is maintained, I'd probably install it. | 20:11 |
apachelogger | ScottK: not sure, Ill need to look into it soonish anyway, because I am not sure if we should stack our settings ontop of the kubuntu ones or instead of them | 20:19 |
apachelogger | fregl: ^ opinions | 20:19 |
apachelogger | hm | 20:21 |
apachelogger | claydoh: either something is broken in the cloud or I did not patch libqoauth completely :/ | 20:21 |
apachelogger | former is entirely possible | 20:21 |
apachelogger | u1 is not the most reliable service these days | 20:21 |
apachelogger | I can reproduce it in a vm though | 20:21 |
Tonio_ | is it just me or is akonadi integration in kontact the worst thing ever ? | 20:26 |
apachelogger | AHHHHHH | 20:27 |
apachelogger | now it all becomes clear | 20:27 |
Tonio_ | you want to add a calendar, and in the middle of the sources, you have the akonadi one | 20:27 |
ScottK | Tonio_: worst thing ever would be pretty strong, but I'm not a fan. | 20:27 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: I consider the usability of this | 20:27 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: when you want to add a calendar, you have different sources, including akonadi, then if you choose akonadi ,you have different sources AGAIN, including "traditional" | 20:28 |
Tonio_ | if you choose this, you get the exact same list a the first | 20:28 |
Tonio_ | I don't get this....... | 20:28 |
ScottK | I didn't say I liked it. | 20:28 |
ScottK | It's not, for example, worse than Windows ME. | 20:29 |
Tonio_ | :) | 20:29 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: just to be sure I'm okay : | 20:29 |
Tonio_ | kaddressbook is ported to akonadi | 20:29 |
Tonio_ | so.... it has traditional resources, and akonadi resources | 20:30 |
Tonio_ | that's fine | 20:30 |
Tonio_ | BUT | 20:30 |
Tonio_ | akonadi also has a compability layer for traditional resources, right ? | 20:30 |
Tonio_ | same happens with korganizer | 20:30 |
JontheEchidna | iirc KAddressbook can only do traditional via akonadi | 20:31 |
Tonio_ | everything seems to be duplicate... | 20:31 |
apachelogger | hm | 20:31 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: go in the options....... you can set an ldap server from there, and that doesn't look like akonadi afaik | 20:31 |
JontheEchidna | ah, I meant traditional as in traditional local vcard | 20:31 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: but what I just said is indeed particularly true with korganizer | 20:32 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: the software can do traditional or akonadi, and akonadi can do traditional.... | 20:32 |
JontheEchidna | well, I'm not defending that akonadi isn't a complete mess. It's a disaster | 20:32 |
Tonio_ | good luck tomake this "configurable by john doe" | 20:32 |
dantti | Riddell: pinhero created laser icons :D http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/700/printmanagerlaserqueue.png http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2989/printmanagerlaser.png | 20:32 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: :) | 20:32 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: what are the plans to impove this ? | 20:34 |
JontheEchidna | Tonio_: we are at the mercy of the akonadi overl0rds | 20:34 |
apachelogger | a) akonadi is not a complete mess it just has limited deployment scope | 20:34 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: cause honestly, except from a kde dev, nobody is supposed to understand how this works... | 20:34 |
apachelogger | b) that kaddressbook shiz does have nothing to do with akonadi anyway, but with silly devs on the kaddresbook side of things | 20:34 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: okay it may not be akonadi devs fault | 20:35 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: thething is that all of this is just a nonsense | 20:35 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: from a usability perspective, it is all a nightmare... | 20:35 |
apachelogger | it makes perfect sense from that perspective | 20:35 |
Tonio_ | of course if there was just akonadi has a backend it would make sense | 20:35 |
apachelogger | but only if implemented properly | 20:35 |
apachelogger | and as it stands it is only carried half way through | 20:36 |
apachelogger | that is also why kaddressbook lacks features | 20:36 |
apachelogger | unfinished work | 20:36 |
JontheEchidna | let me revise my statement, KDEPIM's akonadi implementation is a deployability and usability mes | 20:36 |
JontheEchidna | +s | 20:36 |
apachelogger | this got nothing to do with usability | 20:36 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: what I don't get is the all "you have 10 ways to had 10 kinds of resources, with 2 different compatibility layers" | 20:36 |
apachelogger | dont hijack buzzwords | 20:36 |
Tonio_ | cause the "old way compatibility" has 2 implementations | 20:36 |
Tonio_ | one in akonadi | 20:36 |
Tonio_ | one in the softwares.... | 20:36 |
apachelogger | Tonio_: that ought to go away | 20:37 |
apachelogger | all goes through akonadi | 20:37 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: I know but I mean... kde4 is out for 3 years now :) | 20:37 |
apachelogger | well | 20:37 |
apachelogger | look at plasma | 20:37 |
* JontheEchidna thinks "what about plasma?" | 20:39 | |
apachelogger | remove your panel and move the systray to the desktop | 20:41 |
apachelogger | good fun with broken systray :P | 20:41 |
JontheEchidna | that is due to xembed madness | 20:42 |
JontheEchidna | klipper fail: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopc17659-jpg.jpg Due to a bug (fixed post beta) the klipper menu doesn't close when it looses focus. Now I can't get to the tray icon to close it :D | 20:44 |
apachelogger | dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to ubuntuone-kde-0.0.0~alpha1/data/ox16-app-ubuntuone.png: binary file contents changed | 20:45 |
apachelogger | I always wonder how bzr-buildpackage manages to come up with that sort of stuff | 20:45 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: you're trying to build a native package with 3.0 (quilt) | 20:45 |
JontheEchidna | or at least what you had in your ppa was | 20:45 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: re | 20:45 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: I know it'll go away | 20:45 |
Tonio_ | the thing is that the current status is "migrated to akonadi, but not really, but still a little bit" | 20:46 |
Tonio_ | nothing should have been released like this... | 20:46 |
apachelogger | 2 native = False | 20:46 |
apachelogger | true | 20:46 |
apachelogger | then again | 20:46 |
apachelogger | magic bzr-buildpackage does not even create the right tar.gz | 20:46 |
apachelogger | well, today seems a technology fails-me day again | 20:46 |
Tonio_ | I'm a little tired of this "everything changes and breaks and gets fixed and breaks again" thing | 20:47 |
Tonio_ | .... | 20:47 |
Tonio_ | don't ask me why I have real motivation issues to contribute :) | 20:47 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: oh, you know, native = False should make it non-native ^^ | 20:47 |
apachelogger | Tonio_: why do you have real motivation issues to contribute? :P | 20:48 |
Tonio_ | I have no pb, with things expected to be stable in the future... the question is "will all this be stable one day ?" | 20:48 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: :) | 20:48 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: btw, I haz packages: https://launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=lucid | 20:48 |
apachelogger | Using the upstream tarball that is present in /home/me/src/bzr/u1/tarballs | 20:49 |
apachelogger | argh!!! | 20:49 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you recipe that? ^^ | 20:49 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: nope | 20:50 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I was wondering why the worker seems to do so much heavy lifting btw | 20:50 |
apachelogger | couldnt most of that be in the library and then accessed by the worker? | 20:50 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: which stuff? | 20:51 |
apachelogger | all of it :P | 20:51 |
JontheEchidna | well | 20:51 |
apachelogger | I didnt look at the specifics | 20:51 |
JontheEchidna | it does need root to do most of that stuff | 20:51 |
apachelogger | but the ratio of library vs. worker includes seems a bit off | 20:51 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the library will not care about that? | 20:52 |
JontheEchidna | well, you'd have to run the whole app as root to make it not care | 20:52 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: who says that you cannot build an app that only runs with su | 20:52 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: IMHO the library should not force the app developer into kauth | 20:52 |
JontheEchidna | It doesn't use KAuth | 20:53 |
apachelogger | well, that dbusing there :P | 20:53 |
apachelogger | say you want to build something ontop of libqapt that implements its own do-root stuff approach | 20:54 |
apachelogger | that thing would basically have to do the whole logic that is in worker | 20:54 |
JontheEchidna | what's the usecase, though? | 20:54 |
apachelogger | wrong question for a lib IMHO | 20:55 |
apachelogger | you want the sharable logic in a shared lib, neverminding if there is a use case | 20:55 |
JontheEchidna | There isn't that much overlap | 20:56 |
JontheEchidna | only that you have to remark the packages as ToInstall, ToRemove, etc once inside the worker | 20:56 |
apachelogger | well, I just think, worker is a lot to heavy on the code side considering what it does | 20:57 |
CIA-91 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100602195753-grofv7xdz4wukhwj * src/auth/AuthHandler.cpp Be clearer about the intentions | 20:58 |
CIA-91 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100602195808-ihej3fyvlx3hl2dp * debian/ubuntuone-kde.links Link oauth_urls file to be found by QSettings -> makes auth work | 20:58 |
Quintasan | \o | 21:00 |
* JontheEchidna packs up to go home, bbl | 21:01 | |
apachelogger | fregl: dude! | 21:03 |
apachelogger | fregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/5XcRTXS.html | 21:03 |
apachelogger | fregl: you did again not embed the pics, that is why my panel is black!!! | 21:03 |
apachelogger | omg! | 21:03 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: the good thing is that it should be a lot better with 4.5... | 21:29 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Scheduled_for_KDE_4.5_.2F_Akonadi_1.4 | 21:29 |
Tonio_ | as long as everything ends with "done" | 21:30 |
Quintasan | hmm | 21:37 |
Quintasan | nice | 21:37 |
apachelogger | fregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/rhFXTH.html \o/ | 21:42 |
apachelogger | margins might need some tweaking still | 21:42 |
apachelogger | Tonio_: well, that is even going to be delayed AFAIK | 21:42 |
apachelogger | so who knows what will end up in that release ^^ | 21:43 |
* ScottK hints at Riddell that Main is frozen at the moment (re kdegames). | 21:44 | |
* fregl hides | 21:47 | |
fregl | apachelogger: ok, do you still want me to embed the freaking images? or did you do that now? | 21:48 |
apachelogger | fregl: I did that :) | 21:48 |
fregl | apachelogger: what did you want opinions on earlier? | 21:48 |
apachelogger | we should do alpha soonish I suppose | 21:48 |
fregl | yeah, stupid me | 21:48 |
fregl | cool | 21:48 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: :'( | 21:49 |
apachelogger | Tonio_: go use fluffy, no kdepim there :P | 21:49 |
apachelogger | fregl: opinion on whether we want to build ontop of kubuntu's default settings or do our own show | 21:49 |
* ScottK really wants it per user. | 21:50 | |
apachelogger | (default settings involves: getting rid of "tips of the day" + fonts + branding + other stuff | 21:50 |
apachelogger | ) | 21:50 |
fregl | I have no clue what kubuntu default settings are tbh, but I'd probably say, go with them if they mean less work | 21:50 |
fregl | ah, ok | 21:50 |
* bulldog98 asks himself when rekonq will be set as default dependence for kubuntu-desktop | 21:50 | |
fregl | well, branding we want ours of course ;9 | 21:50 |
apachelogger | well, yeah, we would just stack our stuff ontop of the kubuntu one and override it | 21:51 |
fregl | sounds good to me | 21:51 |
apachelogger | k | 21:51 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: fluffy ? what's that ? | 21:51 |
apachelogger | Oo | 21:51 |
apachelogger | omg | 21:51 |
fregl | apachelogger: is that the package you created on launchpad? | 21:51 |
fregl | there is uninitiated people in here still !!! | 21:51 |
* apachelogger is getting seriously weird rendering bugs on opaque -.- | 21:51 | |
apachelogger | Tonio_: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fluffy/124142040948771 | 21:52 |
* apachelogger is going to blog about it this weekish probably | 21:52 | |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: WTF ! | 21:53 |
apachelogger | oi! | 21:53 |
apachelogger | language! | 21:53 |
apachelogger | fregl: yes, and no, what I created on launchpad is really just moving the theming to the appropriate dirs | 21:53 |
apachelogger | fregl: though I think we should just change that so it becomes fluffy default settings | 21:54 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: Wow, That's Fun ! | 21:54 |
Tonio_ | apachelogger: :) | 21:54 |
apachelogger | \o/ | 21:54 |
apachelogger | yeah | 21:54 |
apachelogger | we also got 56 likers already | 21:54 |
apachelogger | Tonio_: you really want to look us ^^ | 21:54 |
apachelogger | s/look/like | 21:54 |
fregl | apachelogger: fluffy lickers :p | 21:54 |
Tonio_ | hehe, let's go... | 21:55 |
apachelogger | fregl: does anyone but luna do that :S | 21:55 |
fregl | apachelogger: by the way, I got a kid's hand-drawn unicorn now... following my last blog post :o | 21:56 |
fregl | it has a small head... looks .. mediocre | 21:56 |
apachelogger | ...question is if the target audience would like that... | 21:56 |
fregl | all kids should be called luna, methinks | 21:56 |
apachelogger | lets establish a uniname paradigm then! | 21:57 |
apachelogger | hm | 21:58 |
apachelogger | the amount of spam from acm is quite high | 21:58 |
claydoh | apachelogger: hi! | 22:09 |
claydoh | looks like some progress in u1-kde | 22:11 |
apachelogger | claydoh: can you please update your u1-kde and check if you get an auth dialog now? | 22:22 |
claydoh | doing so now | 22:23 |
claydoh | asks for kwallet access, then the gnome keyring | 22:23 |
apachelogger | yeah, desktop-couch also got hardcoded gnomekeyring usage I saw the other day | 22:25 |
apachelogger | claydoh: does the status notifier hide though? | 22:25 |
apachelogger | or does it whine about unability to connect? | 22:25 |
apachelogger | ls | 22:25 |
apachelogger | hm | 22:26 |
* apachelogger has tabbing problems | 22:26 | |
apachelogger | fregl: btw, any word from the #fluffy owner? | 22:26 |
claydoh | no so far -sipping tea :) | 22:26 |
apachelogger | oh sweet | 22:26 |
apachelogger | tea++ | 22:26 |
apachelogger | claydoh: should have worked then | 22:26 |
apachelogger | I think ^^ | 22:26 |
fregl | apachelogger: fail, no response after I spammed him with death threads for three times now :( | 22:26 |
claydoh | and the system settings config section has my info | 22:26 |
apachelogger | the system settings config section uses my superior library skills api stuff ^^ | 22:28 |
apachelogger | fregl: I shall mention that in my blog post so that more people spam him ^^ | 22:28 |
apachelogger | also | 22:28 |
* apachelogger hugs fregl | 22:28 | |
* fregl turns pink :D | 22:28 | |
* claydoh hugs apachelogger, and then everyone else too :) | 22:30 | |
apachelogger | fregl: dude, be careful that you do not turn purple, ubuntoo might want to eat you ;) | 22:30 |
* apachelogger rehugs claydoh | 22:31 | |
fregl | nah, I'll just stick to aubergine... | 22:31 |
apachelogger | scary | 22:35 |
apachelogger | hm | 22:38 |
apachelogger | there seems to be a missing connection between authing and statusnotifier at first usage ever | 22:38 |
apachelogger | claydoh: did you try dolphin integration? | 22:38 |
apachelogger | not sure if that will work with the slow servers right now | 22:38 |
claydoh | apachelogger: not yet, setting it up on another machine atm | 22:41 |
apachelogger | kcool | 22:41 |
apachelogger | hm | 22:43 |
apachelogger | now that does not exactly make sense | 22:44 |
apachelogger | "If you have a method in a class that does not access any members and therefore does not need an object to operate, make it static. If additionally it is a private helper function that is not needed outside of the file, make it a file-static function. That hides the symbol completely." | 22:44 |
apachelogger | then | 22:44 |
apachelogger | "Try to limit the number of static variables used in your code, especially when committing to a library. Construction and initialization of large number of static variables really hurts the startup times." | 22:44 |
JontheEchidna | :s | 22:45 |
JontheEchidna | maybe static methods != static variables? | 22:45 |
apachelogger | oh | 22:47 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that could be sort of true indeed ^^ | 22:47 |
apachelogger | ahh | 22:49 |
* apachelogger got authing idea | 22:49 | |
KRF | apachelogger: *bling* | 22:52 |
apachelogger | omg | 22:53 |
apachelogger | _ _ _ | 22:53 |
apachelogger | | |__ | (_)_ __ __ _ | 22:53 |
apachelogger | | '_ \| | | '_ \ / _` | | 22:53 |
apachelogger | | |_) | | | | | | (_| | | 22:53 |
apachelogger | |_.__/|_|_|_| |_|\__, | | 22:53 |
apachelogger | |___/ | 22:53 |
KRF | this is crazy bat shit! | 22:54 |
apachelogger | no no | 22:54 |
apachelogger | _ _ _ | 22:54 |
apachelogger | __/\_| |__ | (_)_ __ __ ___/\__ | 22:54 |
apachelogger | \ / '_ \| | | '_ \ / _` \ / | 22:54 |
apachelogger | \/ |_.__/|_|_|_| |_|\__, | \/ | 22:54 |
apachelogger | |___/ | 22:54 |
apachelogger | this is :D | 22:54 |
apachelogger | look at the stars ^^ | 22:54 |
KRF | amazing it is! | 22:54 |
KRF | going to sleep now | 22:55 |
KRF | good night apachelogger, dear | 22:55 |
apachelogger | nini KRF, sleep tight | 22:55 |
apachelogger | kubotu: np | 22:56 |
kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "For Boston" by Dropkick Murphys [Sing Loud, Sing Proud!, 2001] [http://open.spotify.com/track/0JYAs0ABabznHYeHZOFTbi] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more | 22:56 |
KRF | kubotu: np | 22:56 |
kubotu | KRF listened to "Hearing Is Believing" by Alexander Kowalski [Echoes, 2001] 8 minutes ago; -- see http://www.last.fm/user/KRF for more | 22:56 |
Sput | KRF: auch bling | 22:56 |
KRF | that lastfm web player isnt that fast with updating | 22:56 |
Sput | kubotu: np | 22:57 |
kubotu | Sput hasn't played anything recently | 22:57 |
Sput | kubotu: lastfm Sput42 | 22:57 |
kubotu | Sput42 is listening to "Sinful Love" by Blue Öyster Cult [Agents of Fortune, 2001] [http://open.spotify.com/track/3adFgbOd2OoZeS2eL1KI9A] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/Sput42 for more | 22:57 |
KRF | Deine musikalische Übereinstimmung mit Sput42 ist Super | 22:57 |
Sput | sh!t happens | 22:58 |
apachelogger | rdieter: o/ | 23:01 |
CIA-91 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100602220253-o01d96txwnp078pj * src/libs/ (SyncDaemon.cpp SyncDaemon.h) Wire the syncdaemon to the authhandler's newcredentials signal, only once that was received the syncdaemon will try to auto-connect | 23:03 |
CIA-91 | [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100602225915-3xwg6rkoa6bptzeh * src/libs/CMakeLists.txt try build workaround for amd64 ... ewww it is ;) | 23:59 |
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