/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/02/#kubuntu.txt

zushow do i fix broken packages?00:06
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ratsany ideas why I loose my screen resolution setting when I restert my computer00:11
Typos_Kingzus:    what do you mean?00:11
ArGGu^^zus try sudo apt-get install -f00:11
zustypos king i began watching a video and it asked for some packages to install then halfway it says i've broken packages...00:12
zusArGGu^^,  what does that -f do?00:13
Typos_King-f[ix]00:13
Typos_King:)00:13
ratsi set my resolution for 1024x768 but after i restart my box it reverts back to 1600x120000:14
zusthanks00:15
Typos_Kingrats:   do a manual edit to /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:15
ratsIll try that Typos_King  thanks00:17
Typos_Kingk00:17
zusbrb foods here :)00:22
supermagnumhi, theres something weird with my system..00:48
supermagnummodprobe cannot find evdev, even in i have installed the driver ( xf86-input-evdev ) and hal can find the device00:49
Typos_Kingmaybe is not what modprobe wants name wise00:51
Typos_Kingmaybe is called something else00:51
supermagnumTypos_King, that is possible00:51
supermagnumi dont know if i can paste the related output from hal here..00:52
supermagnumits in the pastebin now00:54
supermagnumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/443036/00:54
Typos_King.. I see nothing related to evdev :|00:56
supermagnumyes, and thats weird..00:57
supermagnumi get garbled text if i type cat /dev/input/event9, so the device is OK00:58
supermagnum* and movemy finger around on the screen00:58
Typos_Kingright00:58
Typos_Kingwhy are you probing it?00:58
supermagnumbecause i cannot get it to work.00:59
Typos_Kingget what to work?01:00
supermagnumthe touchscrren of course01:00
supermagnumthere is a bug related to it: http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=6&ved=0CEEQFjAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F577257&ei=3J4FTKKHB52SOJ7pgIYF&usg=AFQjCNEy6kMuUuWuUHJNDqfM7upUj9pATQ01:01
supermagnumbut the solution mentioned on that page doesnot work.01:01
Typos_King..01:02
Typos_KingI do see a xserver-xorg-input-evtouch package in the repos01:02
Typos_Kingthere's also a tslib01:02
Typos_Kingtoo01:02
supermagnumthere IS a file that are related to syaptics here  /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi01:03
Typos_Kingthat'd be for the touchpad, not a touchscreen I'd think01:04
supermagnummy toucpad mouse does work.01:04
Typos_Kingk01:05
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supermagnumthere is alsoa wacom file.. but nothing related to cf-29/touchscreen..01:06
Typos_Kingwhat about something about 'evtouch'?01:09
supermagnumnope01:10
markus_moin01:10
supermagnumbut there is a file with the same name as the one mentioned on that page.01:11
supermagnumthat deals with the QEMU USB Table01:11
supermagnummaybe it is possible to overwrite that file, perhaps that can help ?01:12
supermagnumit is at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi01:13
supermagnumi have renamed the orginal 10-x11-input.fdi file to 10-x11-input.fdi.backup and made a new 10-X11-input.fdi file with the recommended settings..01:19
supermagnumi will reboot now, if i dont show up here againin about 30 minutes.... whell, you know what happened :P01:20
Typos_Kingshe01:22
Typos_Kingwhat the ***?01:22
Typos_Kinganyhow, -s01:22
nerdy_kidmy .gtkrc-2.0-kde file disappears when i logout/back in01:27
nerdy_kidi removed kubuntu-defualt-settings cause it was causing to many bugs01:27
supermagnumno, that did not work...01:45
supermagnum my keyboard and other inputs died.01:45
supermagnumgood night!01:46
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carutsudoes anybody know where can I get xlibs-dev?02:06
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rsouthardhow long does it take for kde updates to hit the mirrors? like 4.4.4 came out today, and the mirrors are still on 4.4.2.02:20
DragnslcrUsually takes a day or two to get to backports02:21
rsouthard4.4.3 has been out for 3 weeks.02:22
DragnslcrKubuntu packages for 4.4.3 got built almost a month ago02:25
DragnslcrLooks like the same day as KDE released02:26
rsouthardWonder why i never got the update?02:27
DragnslcrDo you have the updates repository enabled?02:28
rsouthardDragnslcr: I have "important security updates" and "recommended updates" checked.02:31
rsouthardI am going off of what "about kde" says in dolphin. Is there a way i can check my version from cli?02:36
contrastrsouthard: You're trying to check what version of KDE you have installed?02:37
rsouthardcontrast: yes. I know i am 4.4.x02:37
rsouthardcontrast: just dont know what .x version i am on.02:38
contrastapt-cache policy kdelibs502:38
contrastThat'll show what version you have installed as well as any other versions which are available in the repositories you have configured.02:39
rsouthardthats 4.4.2-2-0ubuntu02:40
rsouthardthanks02:40
contrastNo problem... Are you trying to upgrade to the 4.4.4 release that came out today?02:40
rsouthardYes.02:41
rsouthardDoes kubuntu use different repositories than ubuntu? I am on an ubuntu install then i ran apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.02:42
maconope, same repos02:42
maco4.4.4 isnt in the main repos02:42
macoshould be in a PPA i think02:43
Dragnslcrrsouthard- I think 4.4.3 is in the "Unsupported" repository02:43
rsouthardgotcha. i could grab it by enabling the kubuntu-beta-backports you think?02:44
contrastYeah, 4.4.4 is in the main Kubuntu PPA. IIRC, you can run "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa" to add it, but you might want to double-check kubuntu.org to be sure.02:44
contrastI'm trying to burn a DVD, but K3b keeps saying "cdrecord has no permission to open the device." Under the Permissions column for the device in K3bSetup, it says "666 root,cdrom". I'm in the cdrom group, so I'm not sure why it's giving this error. Any ideas?02:48
Dragnslcrrsouthard- sorry, KDE updates are just in the PPA02:49
Dragnslcrrsouthard- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.4.402:49
DragnslcrSomeone needs to update the topic here02:49
rsouthard666 has to do with your file permissions. you need to get it back to 775. there is no execute in there.02:50
contrastAhh... So just "sudo chmod 775 /dev/sr0"?02:51
rsouthardnot sure you can do that on a device.02:51
rsouthardyou could launch k3b as root.02:51
rsouthardor add yourself to the root group02:52
contrastYeah, I considered that. I'd rather actually fix whatever the problem is though.02:53
rsouthardthat is understandable. what are the permissions for your /dev/sr0?02:53
contrastWell I just ran that command and they're 775 now, but it's still saying the same thing.02:54
rsouthardThat is odd.02:54
contrast"ls -lh /dev/sr0" returns this: brwxrwxr-x+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2010-06-01 21:33 /dev/sr002:54
rsouthardwhat about the permission on the file that you are trying to read?02:54
rsouthardor that k3b is trying to read?02:55
contrast-rw-r--r--02:55
rsouthardalso, what is your umask? 002?02:55
contrastErm... Not sure. How do I check that?02:55
rsouthardumask02:55
contrast002202:56
rsouthardthat is good.02:56
contrastWhat's weird is I burned a disc earlier with no problem. When I tried to burn another one right after that, this started. :\02:57
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rsouthardThat sets permission for newly created file 777--0222=755 or -rwx-r-x-r-x02:58
rsouthardi am at a loss. sorry. had a similar problem with nfs...and burning. but it was a /etc/exports problem not so much as local perms.02:59
contrastErm... I just made a new file to check that, its permissions are 644 (-rw-r--r--)02:59
estreshi there, any one know why I can not conect to the internet? I have to erase the /home/user/.kde directory and then I only can acces to my wireless networ by gnome02:59
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contrastWell, thanks anyway. :)02:59
estresa little help here please02:59
rsouthardcontrast: were you root when you did that?03:00
contrastNope.03:00
rsouthardthat is ok. that is normal.03:00
contrast'Kay... Well, thanks for your efforts.03:01
rsouthardnp. sorry i couldnt be more help. no great with permissions.03:01
rsouthardnot*03:01
contrastNo problem.03:01
rsouthardpost your issue on serverfault.com or kubuntu forums. serverfault has some really sharp admins on there that always help me out.03:02
contrastNice, thanks for the tip.03:03
rsouthardyw.03:05
xerxesboob03:36
xerxeswell03:36
xerxesthis looks....03:36
xerxesfun03:36
corigoHi, I believe that my upgrade did not complete and now I have no access (wired or wireless). How can I manually force an update (not a re-install) from a CD source?03:57
aoueoaHey, does anyone have any idea about KDE 4.5 beta1 packages? Is anybody actively working on them? I'd like KDE 4.5, and I don't mind helping out with packaging.03:59
SkEmOcan I use a recovery shell to format the HD or to install (or re-install) kubuntu from a cd?04:02
aoueoaYou may be able to use it to format the disk, but I would advise against it. Rather, boot from a Kubuntu CD (or, even better, a USB flash drive imaged with Kubuntu) and install that way.04:04
SkEmOwell i burnt another cd with kubuntu in it but the dvdrom wont read it04:04
SkEmOi rebooted 10 times and still wont show up04:05
aoueoaIs the BIOS set to boot from CD/DVD?04:05
SkEmOyes04:05
aoueoaHmm… The disc may not have properly been burnt. Are you able to access the CD from within recovery mode?04:06
SkEmOi dont know how to do that04:06
aoueoaIs the machine with Kubuntu on it accessible right now?04:08
SkEmOyeah i have it right next to me04:09
aoueoaAre you in the terminal now?04:09
SkEmOim in the recovery shell04:10
SkEmOso yeah i guess04:10
SkEmObut, i have no access to the internet >.>04:10
aoueoaWhat is the output of the command 'ls /dev/scd*' (without quotes)?04:11
SkEmOcannot access /dev/scd: no such file04:11
SkEmObrb04:13
aoueoaOkay.04:13
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estresany one had problem with the wifi conection?04:14
aoueoaNot recently. What wifi chip do you have, and what problems have you been having?04:15
estresis not problem of the chip because in gnome works fine04:15
estresactually I am using gnome to...04:15
aoueoaWhat problem have you been having?04:15
aoueoa*gasp* blasphemer! (kidding)04:16
estresthe kde not conect to the wifi network04:16
aoueoaWhich version of Kubuntu are you using?04:16
estreskde does not conect to the wifi network04:16
estres10.0404:16
aoueoaWas this a fresh install, or did you upgrade from a previous version?04:17
estreswell I have to erase /home/user/.kde04:19
estresbecause some problems with the desktops04:19
aoueoaIs your system fully up to date?04:21
estresI think so04:21
estresI think kde network manager is the problem04:21
estresis installed in v0.704:22
estresversion04:22
estresaoueoa: ok thank you, I will try another thing04:24
aoueoaAccording to Ubuntu's package information (http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/network-manager-kde), your network manager is out of date. Are you perhaps still using knetworkmanager?04:25
aoueoaOh. you just quit. Never mind.04:25
aoueoaDoes anyone have any idea about KDE 4.5 beta1 packages? Is anybody actively working on them? I'd like KDE 4.5, and I don't mind helping out with packaging.04:26
VbitzKDE froze on my hp mini 210 on logout04:39
Vbitzi am using ubuntu netbook remix and install kde using apt-get04:39
aoueoaDid you install kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-netbook?04:40
Vbitzi installed kde-base04:41
aoueoaAre you using KDM or still using GDM?04:42
aoueoa(on the login screen, does it say Ubuntu [not Kubuntu])?04:43
corigoHi, since my upgrade to 10.04 LTS and a restart I have no network at all! I have already reviewed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/555571 and even when I stop and restart the network-manager service it automatically overwrites my settings from true for wireless to false, and is completely unable to get an IP address at all04:51
corigoMousing over the Network Manage icon in the tool bar gives the message: Networking information unavailable04:52
corigoifconfig does display eth0 but no IP address04:52
aoueoaAre you able to get online from that machine at all (with ethernet)?04:53
corigono04:54
aoueoaNot even by plugging in? Hmm…04:55
aoueoaWhat if you log out of KDE, press ctrl-alt-f1 and login in the terminal (while plugged in)?04:55
corigonot any more... originally after my upgrade I could, but after failed sleep and forced reboot... nothing04:55
corigoaoueoa: Network is unreachable ... is the message returned04:57
corigoI even swapped the cables between my desktop (this machine I'm typing on) to no effect04:57
corigoNIC lights show proper connection04:58
aoueoaIf you go into the terminal (make sure you're logged out of kdm), type 'sudo stop network-manager;sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' (all with the ethernet plugged in), does it give you an IP address?04:59
aoueoa(you can check by running ifconfig)04:59
corigoNow there is no eth0, only lo05:01
corigoI had manually added a connection to the manager before... now that removed it, and I have nothing05:02
aoueoatry adding the following two lines to /etc/network/interfaces:05:02
aoueoaauto eth005:02
aoueoaiface eth0 inet dhcp05:03
aoueoathen run 'sudo ifup eth0'05:03
aoueoa(you can use 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' to edit that file from within the terminal)05:05
Vbitzi am using kdm, there is no menson of ubuntu05:06
corigoaoueoa: that's ok, trying to learn vi... ok, got an IP now05:08
corigoand can ping yahoo.com05:08
corigonow how to get back to the UI?05:09
aoueoaVbitz: Is there any specific reason you only want the base of KDE and not the full Kubuntu suite? If not, the easiest way to make sure there are fewer bugs is to install either kubuntu-desktop (if you want the desktop version of KDE with the panel at  the bottom) or kubuntu-netbook (if you want the kubuntu netbook remix, which you can see at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook).05:11
Vbitzi did not want it to change anything with the system expect the login screen05:11
aoueoacorigo: woah, hold on. This is only a temporary stopgap. The answer to the question is to press alt-F7 (or in some cases alt-F8).05:12
aoueoacorigo: But we still need to diagnose your Network Manager problems. We should be able to do this from within KDE, though, so you can feel free to log back into KDE if you feel more comfortable there.05:13
corigoah... what's next?05:13
aoueoaVbitz: In what way did KDE crash on logout?05:14
Vbitzstoped at a  blinking cuser05:14
Vbitzon a black background05:14
corigoaoueoa: relaunching KDE desktop the Networking Manager icon still shows the same message: Networking information not available05:17
aoueoacorigo: I'm not a Network Manager expert, but generally what works is to purge the system. It's a bit of a sledgehammer where a scalpel would be more appropriate, but it tends to work. What packages does it list as installed when you run 'dpkg --get-selections | grep network'? (note, that's a pipe [shift-backspace on most keyboards] between selections and grep)05:17
Vbitzalso note i can not switch to a tty05:18
aoueoacorigo: We have completely disabled network manager, so right now that should be correct. Instead we're using Linux's old-fashioned, built-in networking capability (one which is terrible with wifi, which is why network manager was created).05:18
aoueoaVbitz: Were you logging out or shutting down?05:19
VbitzLogging out05:19
aoueoaVbitz: I see. Is the machine still in this state?05:21
corigokdenetwork: install, kdenetwork-filesharing: install, knetworkconf: install, libqt4-network: install, libqtscript4-network: install, network-manager: install, network-manager-kde: install, network-manager-pptp: install, network-manager-pptp-gnome: install, networkstatus: deinstall, plasma-widget-networkmanagement: deinstall05:21
Vbitzno using the power switch shuts it down normaly05:21
aoueoacorigo: you said you're on 10.04, right?05:23
corigoI ran the update using the builtin system05:24
aoueoaVbitz: Does it do this every time you log out of KDE?05:24
corigoI don't know if it failed or not05:24
Vbitzit has happend twice today out of 3 logouts05:24
aoueoacorigo: Try running 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'05:24
aoueoaVbitz: Were all of these trying to logout from the menu? What happens if you use the k menu to try to shut down or reboot instead?05:25
Vbitzi was using kickstart05:25
corigorunning ...05:27
aoueoaVbitz: That's fine. This still applies, as I believe kickstart uses the same methods for logout etc. as the default K menu. My questions are still applicable.05:28
Vbitzyes all using the same method05:28
aoueoacorigo: An incomplete upgrade can cause a lot of nasty problems. Let's try this first and maybe it'll fix itself.05:29
aoueoaVbitz: What happens if you use the menu to try to reboot? Does it tend to crash then?05:29
Vbitznot sure, i will check now, brb05:30
corigoThat was my first and primary goal... but without a network connection I was dead in the water05:30
aoueoacorigo: Yeah, I figured. Network Manager can be pretty finicky still. The team working on it are doing very well, though.05:31
Vbitzno crash on reboot05:32
corigoI wish there was a group working on Kimpanel as well05:32
aoueoaVbitz: And the machine is fully up to date (you've run the update manager or 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' today)?05:33
corigook done with the upgrade05:34
aoueoacorigo: How many people are working on kimpanel?05:34
corigoAs far as I can tell, only the occassional volunteer when they are free. End of story... and it is a major stumbling block for many foreign language users05:35
aoueoacorigo: okay, what does the same command (dpkg ... network) output now?05:35
corigoShould I restart05:35
corigoIt says all is upgraded and up-to-date05:35
aoueoacorigo: I meant the command 'dpkg --get-selections | grep network'.05:36
corigoah05:36
aoueoacorigo: Don't restart yet.05:36
corigonochange05:36
aoueoacorigo: I see. Unfortunately, not speaking any languages that don't use the latin alphabet, I'd be pretty useless trying to improve that program.05:37
corigoaoueoa: all it needs to do is support the Unicode standard, foreign language capability is not relevant05:38
aoueoacorigo: You should probably uninstall knetworkconf. It has been deprecated for over a year.05:39
aoueoacorigo: Then perhaps I don't quite get what it does. I thought it was to allow input in non-latin alphabets.05:40
aoueoaVbitz: Is your ubuntu system up to date?05:41
Vbitzmostly05:41
corigoright, using key codings. i.e. I type 2 ascii characters and it replaces them with a pre-defined unicode value05:41
corigohow do I uninstall knetworkconf?05:42
aoueoaVbitz: What is not up to date?05:42
aoueoacorigo: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove knetworkconf'05:42
aoueoacorigo: So what problems is it having?05:43
Vbitzkdebase-runtime05:43
aoueoaVbitz: Please update that. This may fix your problem.05:43
Vbitzupdated05:44
corigook, removed, but other than that previous messages unchanged05:45
Vbitzchecking05:46
Vbitzproblem looks to be fixed thanks05:47
Vbitzalso is there a openoffice.org chaneal05:48
aoueoacorigo: Okay, so now i think we should tackle Network Manager itself.05:48
aoueoaVbitz: You're welcome. And I always suggest running all of the updates available to you. (If it says there's a new version of Ubuntu available, I would suggest waiting for a weekend or another time when you have a bit of time to play with things, but any updates that appear in your update manager are highly recommended, as they tend to fix a lot of bugs).05:50
Vbitzthanks05:50
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corigoI'm transfixed05:51
corigoI mean, I'm ready05:51
aoueoacorigo: Haha! Okay, the best strategy I can come up with is the brute force approach. That is: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove network-manager network-manager-kde network-manager-pptp network-manager-pptp-gnome networkstatus plasma-widget-networkmanagement'05:53
corigohmm... ok, give me a minute05:54
aoueoaThis will purge (remove and remove configurations for) all of the listed packages. For the ones that aren't installed, that will simply clean up some files that are left behind. For the ones that are installed, it uninstalls them and cleans up those files.05:54
corigosorry, I was very very naughty and started an upgrade to 4.4.405:57
aoueoacorigo: That's okay. I completely understand.06:00
aoueoaI'm in Mac OS X right now, but as soon as I reboot my machine is getting 4.5 beta 1 from the experimental repository. I'm busy doing the same with my desktop (which is in another room, but I'm using SSH to update it).06:01
corigoI take it that you've tried KDE on OSX?06:02
aoueoacorigo: I've tried it, but I never found it to work that well. I'm always optimistic, though, and I'm going to try it again as soon as 4.5 gets into either fink or MacPorts.06:03
corigoIf I didn't hate Mac keyboards soo very much, and KDE was stable on OS X... then I might finally consider owning a Mac again.06:04
aoueoaWhat don't you like about Mac keyboards?06:05
corigoRequires Function keys to use Home, End, Page Up, Page Down, etc.06:05
corigo(I hate mice... every time  I have to touch a mouse I'm unhappy)06:06
corigoI don't mind the little red dot in the middle of my ThinkPad keyboard so much, but it is still a nuiscance and a distration06:07
aoueoaAhh… yes, that can get a bit annoying on my laptop. Although on a desktop or when my laptop is sitting in its Borg-like state on my desk (no joke - I currently have 8 things plugged into my MBP, and that's only counting my USB hub as one device).06:07
aoueoaOops. Incomplete sentence. When I have it in this space, I use my external keyboard and mouse (purely by coincidence, the keyboard is an Apple keyboard (this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_Pro_Keyboard_%28open_top%29.jpg06:09
aoueoabut a US keyboard).06:09
corigoOoh, cool new Kimpanel with 4.4.4 will have to try it06:09
aoueoaCool! Hope it works better!06:10
aoueoaBut this keyboard, in addition to feeling more substantial (I hate Apple's new USB/wireless keyboards because they feel like laptop keyboards and thus feel like they're going to break any moment), actually has home/end, etc.06:11
corigonice06:13
corigoOk, brute forced ... but it said for the two "deinstall" packages of networkstatus and plasma-widget-networkmanagement ... that they are not installed, and therefore not removed06:14
aoueoaThat should be correct. But now it should have purged everything to do with them.06:15
corigoNow grep network gives me: kdenetwork: install, kdenetwork-filesharing: install, libqt4-network: install, libqtscr-network:install, networkstatus: deinstall, and plasma-widget-networkmanagement: deinstall06:16
corigoNow you want me to run the distupgrade again?06:16
aoueoaHmm… Didn't remove the networkstatus and plasma-widget-networkmanagement stuff as I expected. Oh well… It's not important (it was purely for tidyness's sake).06:17
aoueoaNo need to run dist-upgrade again.06:17
aoueoaYou need to reinstall Network Manager and the surrounding applications. 'sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-kde' should take care of it.06:17
corigoNow it is requesting a system restart06:18
corigo(to complete the update)06:19
aoueoaThat should be okay.06:20
aoueoaIn fact, after a reboot, in theory everything should work.06:20
corigoOk, Toolbar icon on hover now says "Unmanaged"06:24
corigoAlso at startup I keep getting "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store its data.06:25
corigoI do have an IP, and can ping yahoo.com, but don't know if that is left over from our previous hack06:26
aoueoaThe Nepomuk thing is related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/50021206:28
aoueoaI believe all you need to do for that (This is a KDE 4.4 thing) is install virtuoso-server06:28
aoueoa('sudo apt-get install virtuoso-server')06:28
aoueoaAre you able to use your Network Manager applet now?06:28
aoueoa(You may need to put it back on your panel, since removing the package may have told KDE not to show it anymore).06:29
corigowhen I do an AltF2 search I see Network Connections and KnetworkManager06:32
corigoI do still have an icon in my panel and it is reporting "Unmanaged"06:32
aoueoaHmm…06:33
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aoueoatry running 'sudo restart network-manager'06:33
corigoIt popped up a message: Networking system disabled06:34
well_laid_lawntry   ifconfig    in konsole maybe to see06:36
corigoStill have an IP and can ping yahoo06:37
well_laid_lawnk06:37
aoueoawell_laid_lawn: I got him to put eth0 in his /etc/network/interfaces file to temporarily workaround the problem to perform a system update.06:37
corigoNetwork Manager is also still cacheing my older connection information despite the purge06:37
well_laid_lawngood idea06:38
aoueoacorigo: It seems bug 555571 is still plaguing you.06:38
aoueoacorigo: Have you tried this workaround? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/555571/comments/1406:39
corigoEven after the 4.4.4 upgrade as well06:39
corigoYes, but when I did it before and it rebuild the file it set the WirelessEnabled=false ... the others are true06:41
aoueoaHave you tried that after purging and reinstalling network manager?06:41
aoueoawell_laid_lawn: How good are you with Network Manager?06:42
corigoJust retried... same result...06:43
well_laid_lawnaoueoa: I remove it and just use a static ip in the interfaces file///06:43
corigowell_laid_lawn: while that's great for the moment, not great for using wireless ... this is my laptop06:43
aoueoawell_laid_lawn: Crap. Me too (on my desktop - my laptop has never had a problem with Network Manager, and I just dearly hope it stays that way). I was really hoping you'd be a magical Network Manager guru who actually knows what he's doing with the app.06:45
well_laid_lawnaoueoa: it seems every man and his dog has issues with it lately...06:45
aoueoaIt would make a pleasant change from me trying to figure it out…06:45
mase_wkwhats the problem with network manager ?06:45
corigoIt's not managing... it doesn't show any of my hardware06:46
mase_wkand are you talking about network-manager , knetworkmanager or nm-applet specifically ?06:46
aoueoamase_wk: corigo is having problems that look a lot like bug 555571. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/555571/06:46
corigoall 306:46
mase_wkk, looking06:46
mase_wkah i've hit this before.  i basically killall knetworkmanager && nm-applet06:48
mase_wkthen right click it and hit enable-networking06:48
mase_wkand then if i'm bothered by it i'll kill nm-applet and restart knetworkmanager06:48
mase_wkits kind of a hassle though06:48
corigomase_wk: nice idea... but it literally isn't seeing my NICs. When I do the killall and relaunch KNetworkManager, I don't have an option to enable06:51
mase_wkcorigo: ok but do you get that with nm-applet as well ?06:51
corigoMy options are: New Wired Connection, Enable Wireless (greyed out and can't be selected), Manage connections06:51
mase_wki don't have the option to enable with knetworkmanager06:51
mase_wkbut i do with nm-applet06:51
corigoYes06:51
corigoThose are my options from the Applet06:52
mase_wkcorigo: and you get the same options from knetworkmanager also ?06:52
corigoNo06:52
mase_wkk so an ifconfig -a in konsole can see your device ?06:53
corigoKnetworkManager shows the manually created wired connection, and one vestigal wireless connection, but won't do anything with either of them06:53
corigoYes, eth0 lo wlan006:54
SkEmOahhh!! im going nuts!!06:54
mase_wkcorigo: ok, and does ifconfig wlan0 up restore the enable wireless in nm-applet ?06:54
corigono06:55
corigowlan0 has never been missing, it is just network manager that fails to recognize it06:55
mase_wki didn't say it was missing06:55
mase_wkthe ifconfig wlan0 up just tells it to power up06:55
corigoif I run ifconfig without the -a wlan0 doesn't display06:56
corigoah ... misread your instructions06:56
corigoSIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 13206:56
mase_wkare you root when your trying to do this ?06:56
mase_wkor using sudo ?06:57
corigosudo06:58
mase_wkcorigo: what does dmesg say ?06:58
mase_wkis there an issue with the driver perhaps ?06:58
corigothat overflowed my terminal buffer...06:59
mase_wkcorigo: so is this only when your resume from suspend you encounter this07:00
mase_wkor is it all the time ?07:00
corigoall the time07:02
corigoEven after a brute force removal of all network manager and re-install... plus an upgrade to 4.4.407:02
ani_kde 4.4.4?07:03
corigoOriginally the wireless disappeared shortly after upgrading to 9.10, then shortly after that I upgraded to 10.04 (hoping to resolve the wireless issue in 9.10), and after a sleep crash no wired network either07:03
corigoani_: yes, just did that 30 minutes ago07:04
ani_what happend than?07:04
corigono change07:04
ani_kde network manager still giving problem07:04
ani_same here07:04
corigolooking at dmesg I don't see anything other than Intel HDA starting normally... I think that is my network card07:05
well_laid_lawnit's te sound card07:05
well_laid_lawns/te/the07:05
corigoah07:05
corigohow can I send to a text file?07:05
well_laid_lawn!intelhda07:05
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto07:05
well_laid_lawn!paste07:06
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:06
corigo..I mean how to send dmesg to a text file?07:06
well_laid_lawndmesg > dmesg.text07:06
well_laid_lawnjust like that - or read the log it comes from07:07
well_laid_lawn/var/log/syslog07:07
ani_ messages07:08
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well_laid_lawnthe best way to use dmesg for teouble shooting is to run   dmesg | tail -n 20   then insert/restart/whatever then repeat the command07:09
corigopaste.ubuntu.com/443154/07:11
SkEmOwhat does "proc" or "/proc" means?07:12
corigoprocess07:13
well_laid_lawnSkEmO: /proc is in the filesystem  - try   cat /proc/cpuinfo07:13
corigo1.335267 ... eth0: no errors in dmesg07:14
corigo7.023530 iwlagn: Intel driver loaded07:15
obert1.how to get autologin,please? no need to insert root pw at startup. 2.what is the param to have to type sudo and stay as root for more time than do sudo pw, please?07:16
well_laid_lawncorigo: sorry for coming in late but wasn't the issue that the nics were working just not in knetworkmanager?07:17
corigoyes, which effectively leaves me unable to use wireless, and I've had to manually set eth007:18
well_laid_lawncorigo: thought about just swapping knetworkmanager for wicd?07:18
paul__my resolution has dropped down to 800x600, I think it's something to do with my nvidia driver as it says its not running whenever I start up X. any ideas where to set the resolution or how to make the driver work properly?07:18
well_laid_lawn!info wicd07:18
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager - metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.0+ds1-2 (lucid), package size 39 kB, installed size 88 kB07:18
well_laid_lawnpaul__: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html07:19
corigoNever heard of it07:19
SkEmOhaha processor 007:19
paul__well_laid_lawn many thanks07:19
well_laid_lawnobert: for #2 - try   sudo -s   or   sudo -i07:19
obertgrrr and why if i launch kate from yakuake then press ctrl+z to do other things,the app will be freezed?07:20
well_laid_lawnobert: iirc ctrl+z in most editors is the undo keys07:22
obertisnt ctrl+z to come back to shell,for instance after i typed man foobar?07:22
obertyes,i assumed that07:23
well_laid_lawnlots of apps use it obert07:23
obertwhat do you do then? just opens a new shell window?07:23
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well_laid_lawnobert: the   q   button will end a man page too07:23
obertoh :) then for the main question on how to launch an app from yakuake then continue to work on shell,what is the good way?07:24
obertmmm07:24
well_laid_lawnobert: put an   &   at the end - like   kate &07:24
corigowell_laid_lawn: Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface.07:25
oberti mean.i'd type kate foobar and it is opens kate foobar,then the shell looks freezed. so i try to press ctrl+z to come back to shell and kate will be freezed07:25
obertfilezilla& too? like that?07:25
well_laid_lawnobert: a space before the & normally07:26
obertuh thanks07:26
obertIBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon  - i get still this07:27
well_laid_lawncorigo: I don't use any networkmanager here - does   ps aux | grep dbus   return two or more lines?07:27
corigomore07:28
well_laid_lawnobert: while starting kate?07:28
well_laid_lawncorigo: then it is running07:28
obertuhmf sudo -i then i'll be root, and to come back user? why i dont feel man intuitive and clear.07:29
obertany app07:29
corigoit is running07:29
well_laid_lawnobert: type   exit   to leave sudo -i07:29
WindPowerOr Ctrl+D07:30
obertno man for exit??07:30
obertbah.07:30
WindPowerAlso don't worry about the dbus message07:30
corigobut it doesn't see my wireless (or any) networks07:30
corigoany wireless that is.07:30
well_laid_lawncorigo: you may need to restart the networking07:31
oberti must get more practice with this07:31
obertalso dolphin is a nightmare to be used. but mkdir looks ancient07:31
well_laid_lawnobert: took me ages to learn07:31
oberti'm older than ages:P07:32
well_laid_lawnheh07:32
corigoYou mean in Kubuntu? I've already restarted the router, and confirmed connection on my Android07:32
paul__I've downloaded the nvidia driver (.run file) but I'm unable to execute it. I set permission to 755 and tried to run it from a shell but it says must be run as root. using sudo doesn't work, permission denied. Is there another way?07:33
well_laid_lawncorigo: sudo service networking restart07:33
oberttry sudo -i07:33
obert:P07:33
paul__thanks obert07:33
WindPowerpaul__: Chmod it 77707:33
WindPowerOr chown root07:33
WindPowerDunno07:33
paul__chown root gives permission denied, operation not permitted07:34
paul__gonna try -i method07:34
obertpaul__: exit to come back user from root heh07:34
WindPowerOr use the packages instead07:34
oberthow do you configure plasma bottom bar to get usability of the pc?07:35
corigoobert: what do you mean?07:35
paul__the running the file as sudo -i gives file not found07:35
paul__even when using ./07:35
oberti saw some bottom bars with the apps that were added to it07:35
obertsort of07:35
well_laid_lawnpaul__: sudo -i would have changed the dir07:36
corigoclick the bean and add plasmoids07:36
paul__oh how do we deal with that?07:36
well_laid_lawnpaul__: where is the .run file?07:36
WindPowercd back to the dir, or type the full path to the file07:36
obertgimme some cool tips,come on :P07:37
obertsome more :)07:37
paul__well_laid_lawn: /home/user/Downloads07:37
paul__will try full file07:37
corigoI never should have upgraded from 9.0107:37
corigo9.0407:37
well_laid_lawnpaul__: then type   cd /home/user/Downloads - then do the run thing07:37
obertTo enable automatic logon in Ubuntu, you will need to open and run GNOME Display Manager (also known as Logon Window Preference) as root. ??07:38
obertmah07:38
obertkdesu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup07:38
well_laid_lawncorigo: newer isn't always better - i still use dapper here07:38
well_laid_lawnobert: that won't work in kubuntu - it uses kdm not gdm07:39
paul__using sudo -i with full path gives permission denied. attempting to chown to root:root also gives permission denied. any ideas?07:39
obertmhm i was too fast to read07:39
obertalt+f2 kdesu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup inserted pw07:39
well_laid_lawnpaul__: ls -l /path/to/.run/file07:39
corigowell_laid_lawn: what version of KDE?07:39
well_laid_lawnwho owns it paul__07:39
obertand i hope to can recover my old hd.damnit07:40
well_laid_lawncorigo: I use fluxbox :]07:40
paul__well_laid_lawn: its owned by user07:40
paul__was downloaded from browser07:40
well_laid_lawnpaul__: is there a x in the begginning of the ls -l output - it might not be executable07:41
well_laid_lawnchmod +x .run07:41
paul__well_laid_lawn it looks like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 paul paul07:41
well_laid_lawnk07:41
well_laid_lawnpaul__: you'll have to look for a readme in the files you d/loaded mate07:43
paul__it's only one file07:43
paul__it sucks.07:43
well_laid_lawnk07:43
well_laid_lawnone min07:43
phoenix__anyone there07:45
paul__well_laid_lawn: I just saw instructions saying to run it as root and use the "sh" command. must be a script or some sort eh. I tried to do it with sudo but it said "can't open"07:45
WindPowerpaul__, why not use the nvidia driver package07:45
well_laid_lawnpaul__: that link I gave said to use the command sudo sh .run file07:45
phoenix__i have a proble  with kpackagekit can anyone help  me07:45
corigowicd doesn't help... even after system restart not finding any wireless networks07:45
paul__WindPower: someone posted me a web url saying to install the latest driver from nvidia website. I'm having problems getting the package driver to load07:45
well_laid_lawnpaul__: so doing   sudo sh ".run file" ?07:46
paul__well_laid_lawn: yeah that's what I tried just now..but maybe the permission has changed when I did +x?07:46
well_laid_lawnpaul__: have you installed the nvidia binary driver before on this comp?07:46
paul__well_laid_lawn yes07:46
well_laid_lawnpaul__: it is working?07:47
paul__well_laid_lawn it worked initially, but since doing an update every time I restart X the nvidia driver no longer works properly I get a message saying it couldn't load and to take action.07:47
paul__my resolution is 800x60007:47
phoenix__paul__: it happens me too07:48
paul__:-/07:48
well_laid_lawnpaul__: I meant the run script now is it working " well_laid_lawn: yeah that's what I tried just now..but maybe the permission has changed when I did +x?"07:48
paul__sometimes it works as yesterday it was working fine, not sure what I did to make it work07:48
phoenix__paul__: are you using the 9 series07:48
paul__today its not working again07:48
paul__well_laid_lawn oh sorry, no its not running. it says cannot open.07:49
well_laid_lawnpaul__: you need to do the 8 steps in order from that link07:49
paul__phoenix__ 7 series07:49
paul__well_laid_lawn ok sorry will try again07:49
well_laid_lawnk07:49
well_laid_lawn:]07:49
phoenix__paul__: after every kernel update , i have to reinstall the nvidia driver, but now after 10.04 it is solved07:50
paul__phew07:50
paul__hopefully this will fix it properly then07:50
phoenix__paul__: what is your kubuntu version07:51
paul__I'm using 10.0407:51
obertuhmf.looks like i'd removed all apps from bottom plasma-desktop07:51
paul__from an upgrade from 9.1007:51
oberteven the windows looks like too big,sometimes07:51
obertadd objects,dont see any submit buttons.07:52
phoenix__paul__: ha ha ha , my nvidia driver crashed after update, i tried to reinstall but no success. i tried the driver from nvidia website, but it failed, i freshly installed kubuntu07:53
phoenix__paul__: did you try the command line arguments while installing the nvidia driver07:53
well_laid_lawnphoenix__: there's this link i gave to paul__  - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html07:54
obertdunno.07:55
paul__phoenix__ I didn't try anything like that, just ticked the option for the driver support is all I did. it seems very tempramental eh, sometimes it will work and other times not. restarting X seems to fix it sometimes if you create a new X config or use the backup one, something like that07:55
bigbrovar__has anyone upgraded to kde 4.4.4? hope its safe to do so? cus I heard someone complaining of kopete crashing randomly :-|07:55
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paul__phoenix__ I like the nvidia server as I use the twinview with 2 monitors for charting software.. but now the server app is not showing any of the twinview stuff.07:56
phoenix__paul__: did you try the solution in the link that well_laid_lawn gave you07:56
paul__the markets are open and i'm losing a fortune...f'kin X07:56
WindPowerbigbrovar: I updated today, no issue, but I don't use kopete07:57
bigbrovarWindPower: thanks, updating as we speak07:58
paul__phoenix__ gonna go through it properly just now, I only downloaded the script initially and tried to run it...I should of read the instructions through properly first07:58
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vothowdy07:58
votwell i just fired up the new kubuntu07:58
voti must say its the best looking linux disto ive seen07:58
votwhats the story you guys got some graphic artists no one else has07:59
paul__those guys have worked really hard07:59
well_laid_lawnI don't think there is a developer in here this early vot07:59
WindPowerThat's good to hear vot, though kubuntu is pretty much kde, no extra artwork07:59
paul__10.04 looks amazing07:59
votpaul__:  it does08:00
WindPowerSo you should thank the people in #kde too08:00
votthe desktop is of the quality of a commercial desktop yea the new kde and plasma desktop are great08:00
WindPowerI need some sleep, bye08:01
obertlooks like i'd destroied all:P08:01
obertgnite WindPower08:01
votits like mac and windows had a baby:P08:01
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paul__haha yes08:02
obertright click on bottom right part,add objects->nothing happens08:02
paul__i'm not having much luck today :-/08:06
paul__I tried to open the module blacklist but it hasn't opened08:06
paul__gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf <-- nothing happened, after it asked for sudo pass08:06
well_laid_lawnobert: in your home folder there should be a folder in .kde somewhere called plasma yes?08:06
paul__if I try to run the command again, I get: No protocols specified. (gedit:8556): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.008:07
phoenix__sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf insted of "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf"08:07
paul__thanks08:08
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well_laid_lawn!kdesudo08:08
ubottuIn KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why08:08
phoenix__paul__: the instruction given are for ubuntu, you have to correct some to use it with kubunru08:08
paul__phoenix__ same :-/ will try vi instead08:09
well_laid_lawnpaul__: X isn't running?08:09
paul__X is running, it's bizarre08:09
well_laid_lawntry vim then08:09
paul__ok08:09
phoenix__paul__: can you paste the xorg error log08:09
paul__sure08:10
paul__I've updated the blacklist just completing the final steps if this fails I will paste error log08:11
phoenix__paul__: ok08:12
obertwhat is the purpose of plasma red ball??:D08:12
obertand mostly how to remove the red ball from my plasma?:P08:15
diana_applications don't show up in the task bar anymore. how do i fix this?08:18
paul__unable to run the .run file with sudo08:26
paul__says "unable to open" when doing sudo sh .run08:26
paul__it says permission denied when I try and chown it to root, or copy it to /.root08:26
paul__any ideas?08:27
paul__I think the only solution looks like enabling root user password and su to root08:27
mase_wkerm08:27
mase_wkare you trying to run the script in the current directory ?08:28
mase_wkalso what are the permissions on the files08:28
mase_wkyou should be able to do sudo ./.run08:28
tdnHow do I get desktop effects to work in 10.04 with the new nouveau driver?08:28
mase_wkbut sudo .run won't work08:28
mase_wkor rather sudo sh .run won't work08:28
paul_____sorry major problems here, running at 640x48008:29
paul_____mase_wk: i'm running it from /home/user with the full path specified08:29
paul_____mase_wk: the .run file is set to 755 and is user:user08:29
mase_wkok so your doing sudo sh /home/user/.run ?08:30
paul_____exactly08:30
corigoHow can I comment out a section in my /etc/network/interfaces file?08:30
mase_wkpaul_____: what is the contents of that file ?08:30
corigo(what is the terminology for opening and closing a comment)08:30
mase_wkdoes it have #!/bin/sh at the top ?08:30
paul_____mase_wk: I'm not sure, it's the driver from Nvidia website to install the latest driver binary08:30
paul_____will check08:31
well_laid_lawncorigo: a   #   at the start of the line is a commented line08:31
mase_wkah ok08:31
mase_wkpaul_____: any reason why your not using the driver in the partner repositories ?08:31
paul_____interesting, when I opened it said "Incomplete last line][converted" maybe a bad file?08:31
mase_wkyeh sounds corrupted.08:32
paul_____the top looks like this: #! /bin/sh08:32
paul_____i will try and download it again08:32
mase_wkpaul_____: unless you really need the latest nvidia driver for something i would stick with what is available in the partner repo08:32
mase_wkpaul_____: the nvidia driver is annoying even for experienced users.08:33
corigoP.S. My kids must have disabled my wireless using the hardware switch on my laptop... can now use wireless via network manager...08:39
corigothe "rfkill list" command was the key to figuring it out.08:40
corigoNot sure what happened to the wired connection and why that wasn't being managed.08:41
paul_____mase_wk: damn :-/08:44
mase_wk?08:45
paul______i have no idea why im getting d/c from here08:47
paul______happening frequently now08:47
paul______things are repeating too08:47
paul_____doh, I have 5 irc connections! i hate this "window list" thing. I preferred the old style taskmanager08:48
paul__ok sorry about that guys08:49
paul__im back to my original one08:49
paul__user error :-p08:49
ivan_hola08:50
well_laid_lawn!es | ivan_08:50
ubottuivan_: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.08:50
paul__espania08:50
skramer_hi, I have a problem with icons: in some programs I see lot of "?" icons08:51
ivan_yes08:51
skramer_strange, if I move the mouse on those "?" they sometimes change to the correct icon and then change back to "ß"08:51
paul__this is driving me nuts08:52
skramer_so did I miss anything? I'm on Lucid and latest KDE SC 4.4.408:52
well_laid_lawnskramer_: sounds like a bad icon set - the mouseover works but not the rest08:52
paul__I'm trying to install the nividia driver but it won't let me run the .run file with sudo. says "cannot open"08:53
skramer_well_laid_lawn: but I just use the standard oxygen icons...08:53
well_laid_lawnpaul__: you said it was a bad d/load before08:53
paul__well_laid_lawn: i have just re-downloaded it with wget and deleted the old file first08:54
well_laid_lawnskramer_: did you upgrade to lucid or a fresh install?08:54
skramer_well_laid_lawn: upgrade08:54
well_laid_lawnpaul__: did you redo what showed the last d/load was bad as a check?08:54
paul__yeah08:54
skramer_well_laid_lawn: the problem only exists on laptop, the VM install on desktop doesn't have such problem although it's also upgraded from Karmic08:55
well_laid_lawnskramer_: you can try in konsole   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   to pull in anything missing08:55
paul__well_laid_lawn: same message: [Incomplete last line][converted] 147808:55
paul__91 lines, 63733388 characters08:55
skramer_well_laid_lawn: ok, I'll try this08:56
well_laid_lawnpaul__: sounds like another bad d/load - might be worthwhile trying what mase_wk suggested earlier08:56
paul__ok will try it08:57
skramer_well_laid_lawn: it says there is nothing else to be installed.08:57
paul__how do I enable root08:58
well_laid_lawnskramer_: you ran those three commands with the && between?08:58
mase_wkpaul__: you can sudo bash08:58
mase_wkto get a root prompt08:58
paul__oh cool08:58
skramer_well_laid_lawn: sure, I did ;-)08:58
well_laid_lawnk08:58
paul__I need coffee08:59
paul__that's why things are not working. it's 9am and I haven't had any08:59
well_laid_lawnheh09:00
paul__woah I did it09:00
bawwwhow can i get the best font settings on Kword?09:00
paul__I did sudo bash...then cd /root... then wget the file to there, then sh ./run...bingo!09:00
mase_wkbawww: install a font that you like?09:00
paul__its installing09:00
well_laid_lawnskramer_: all i can suggest is to   dpkg-reconfigure   the oxygen icons theme - you'll have to search for it in the package manager tho09:01
paul__must of been permission prob on the folders in user tree09:01
mase_wkpaul__: erm using wget as root is not a good idea09:01
paul__needs must :-/09:01
mase_wkyou could wget the file09:01
mase_wkand copy it as root09:01
paul__i tried that but it failed :(09:01
skramer_well_laid_lawn: ok, thank you09:01
bawwwmase_wk: i meant the best font rendering?09:01
paul__I got to quit X to run it09:02
paul__brb09:02
mase_wkif its a permissions issue then it doesn't matter who you wget as09:02
vothi guys09:10
votis their some way to add a "computer" icon to the desktop like gnome09:11
th_can someone tell me how to mount a sambashare on a kubunu?09:11
votyou can connect to samba shares via computer->remote cant u09:13
paul__thanks everyone for your help earlier. I'm pleased to say I now have the nividia driver installed and the server is running...graphics are back to max resolution and twinview is enabled =)09:13
voterr computer -> network09:14
paul__now time for a much earned coffee break09:14
votwhats the story with mouse intergration09:35
votwhen running kubuntu under virtualbox09:35
votah its ok09:41
votit updated my kernel and broke built module i guess09:41
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votoh wow i see the opengl provided through vbox's 3d integration isnt sufficient09:55
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nebulahelp now install inUtileBar ?10:37
nebulanow run ?10:37
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inchздрасти10:44
well_laid_lawn!ru | inch10:52
ubottuinch: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke10:52
nebula!inUtileBar11:04
daedaluzthis can't be right.. I want to install unrar, apt wants to uninstall loads of totally unrelated stuff http://pastebin.ca/187588111:15
Atritasdaedaluz: try "sudo aptitude install -f" to search for and try to fix broken packages (incl. dependencies) and see if it wants to do the same/similar thing.11:25
daedaluzAtritas: http://pastebin.ca/1875893 it wants to reinstall purged packages and still remove whole bunch of packages I want. dependencies, has apt heard of them?11:28
amichairhow can the wireless subsystem be reset? it looks like the wireless hangs (after working properly for a few minutes)11:29
Atritasdaedaluz: Well it seems you have unsatisifed dependencies which resulted in a consistency problem with your dpkg-database. Although it's rare this *can* happen if you sometimes use "aptitude" and sometimes you use "apt-get" which do work differently when handling dependencies (and reverse dependencies).11:30
Atritasdaedaluz: The easiest thing would be to follow the suggestion and then reinstall and/or purge packages again to your liking. The alternative would be to track down and fix the inconsitencies by hand, which is not only tedious but also not worth it for those few packages IMHO.11:32
daedaluzAtritas: what? aptitude and apt-get do things incompatibly? oh wow.11:40
daedaluzwell, thanks for help, opted to remove "unneeded" packages11:40
Atritasdaedaluz: Not incompatibly per se, just different... afaik apt-get does not track reverse dependencies at all.11:41
AtritasSo, if you install with aptitude and remove with apt-get for instance it's not guaranteed that all depending packages are removed, too. Wether or not hey are still in use.11:41
Atritasdaedaluz: which - in turn - would make a perfect match for your packages that mysteriously "want to be uninstalled" :-)11:42
daedaluzAtritas: okay, so I guess that my habit of using aptitude on cli and synaptics habit of using apt on gui do not match11:44
Atritasdaedaluz: Perhaps... But it's nothing to worry really. It's just a few unneccessary packages that are left over. You can always find those with the package "deborphan", too.11:45
daedaluzI wonder how much of a effort it would be to trash all that apt-get, apt-cache, deborphan and aptitude clusterf'ck and reinstate zypper or pacman instead11:47
ubuntu_hi11:47
Atritasdaedaluz: Without wanting to start a religous war, i personally prefer dpkg as i find its architecture superior. But without any emotion: It's just another way to manage packages... I'm perfectly able to f'ck up a rpm-based system using zypper, rug, etc., too :-)11:51
ubuntu_Hi ever[ybody here is the problem: i had as a MBR partition the one with the SUSE linux and through that (and the GRUB loader) i was able to boot the UBUNTU partition which isnt bootable by itself... now the SUSE partition is broken(the hd is broken) and i cannot boot the UBUNTU PARTITION ...what can i do in order to make the ubuntu part bootable???? thnzxxx11:52
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sheytanHi there12:08
sheytanafter my yesterday upgrade to kde 4.4.4 i have tooo much processes running with '?'12:08
sheytanknow issue?12:08
sheytanany way to fix  it?12:08
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amichairhow can the wireless subsystem be reset? it looks like the wireless hangs after working properly for a few minutes12:20
sheytanno one?12:27
sheytanive got sometimes three the same processes12:27
sheytanthey all have got '?'12:27
apparleok guys I have a funny problem I get this "grep-status: executable name not found; reading from standard input" when I press tab after "sudo apt-get purge"12:31
Torchapparle: do you have grep-status?12:32
apparleTorch: how do I find that? which package?12:33
apparle!find grep-status12:33
ubottuFile grep-status found in dctrl-tools12:33
apparleI am unable to remove the package dlocate12:38
apparlehelp me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/443282/12:39
Atritasapparle: "dpkg --purge dlocate" gives the same result?12:42
apparleAtritas: I didn't try that, but purging with aptitude fixed it12:42
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attila_ciao13:06
MickOatHello, is anyone else experiencing Kubuntu 10.04 regularly hitting 100% CPU and freezing?13:22
_4strOMickOat: no pb @ home13:26
obertuhmf i get the bBall runnin in my plasma. how to stop it&remove it?13:27
_4strOMickOat: look at the taskmanager wich process take all CPU13:27
obertgettin mad:P13:27
oberttaskmanager in kubuntu?13:27
_4strOobert: dont know, kill the process ?13:28
MickOatu mean system monitor?13:28
_4strOyep13:28
_4strOctrl + esc13:28
obertdunno how to kill it. sudo kill bBall returns 'i need an ID'13:28
_4strO(sorry about app names, i have french name)13:29
SpaceMankillall -9 bBall13:29
obertif kill nameapp is13:29
obertuhm13:29
obertno process found13:30
MickOatI checked forums and launchpad... seems to be a bug affecting some people13:30
MickOatsystem seems ok at the moment but can randomly go to 100% CPU and freeze...13:30
oberti have no idea.13:31
obertno info in the web too. wth is that red ball?13:32
obertwhen i do right click over one app it'll shows 'remove app' and that's good. but nothing about this red ball:)13:32
MickOatred ball? you mean the bouncy ball widget?13:33
_4strOobert:  killall -9 bball13:34
obertnone13:34
obert_4strO:   bball=no process found13:34
_4strOobert: is it the red ball ?13:35
obertmhm13:35
_4strOjust right click on it13:35
obertadd obj -> red ball (dunno why i've took that,though)13:36
oberti cannot right click.it is moving13:36
MickOatit should stop after a while... :P13:37
MickOatits a bouncy ball...13:37
obertit is since this morning that is runnin13:37
MickOatlol13:37
obertwhat's the purpose of that bball too..is it a game?13:37
obertor just a nightmare?13:38
_4strOjust fun13:38
MickOathmm... its bouncyness might be set a bit high :P13:38
obertfun??! pacman is fun.this is a stressfull thing:P13:38
obertyes it is.so fast13:38
MickOatyou should be able to grab it with your mouse pointer13:38
oberti cannot take it via mouse: too fast13:39
obertif this is fun,kubuntu is a very weird people :P13:40
obert/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-bball.desktop13:41
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obertno idea.13:43
ArGGu^^obert ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc13:44
ArGGu^^remove section where is plugin=BbalL13:44
ArGGu^^and logout and login13:44
ArGGu^^see if that helps13:44
obertsudo kate  ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc ?13:45
ArGGu^^no need to sudo13:45
MickOatkinda sucks if your bouncy ball widget has gone crazy :P13:45
obertjust comment it?13:46
ArGGu^^well I thin you can just remove it13:47
ArGGu^^*think13:47
obert#commented13:47
ArGGu^^that file just have information of widget what you have running13:47
MickOatI just tried to lock widgets to see if it stops the bouncy ball and it does13:47
MickOatWhen I unlocked widgets again mine didn't bounce around and I could remove it13:48
obertweird. i'd commented it saved and closed kate, reopened it and now it no finds that commented line13:49
obertblock objects doesnt helps. i try to reboot (if that means logout and login)13:50
MickOatno, lock widgets13:51
MickOatclick on plasma icon top left of screen13:51
MickOatclick on "lock widgets"13:52
obertnothing happens13:52
MickOatthe ball doesn't stop?13:53
oberti feel stupid.13:53
obertno13:53
MickOatoh dear13:53
MickOatyou have a rogue bouncy ball...13:53
MickOat:P13:53
obertdamnit.13:55
MickOatit worked for me...13:55
obertuff finally.13:57
MickOatYou got it?13:57
obertreduced zoom. locked objects. got lucky to can click over the ball and i opened its settings,reduced all settings to 0,unlocked widgets removed ball13:58
obertuarf13:58
MickOatyay :D13:58
obertnow instead smoke a cigarette i should take a very big cigar:P13:59
obertbut trust me.red ball IS NOT funny:P13:59
_4strOlol13:59
obertand dunno why man kill doesnt shows any all-913:59
MickOatThe red ball is evil >:D13:59
reagleBRKLNI have a small function that fetches web content for me: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/221011/ . Dealing with the character encoding can be tricky. Here you see I look for the HTTP charset, and if not present assume/force utf-8. Is there a better way using the standard libraries? A trick for also looking at the HTML meta tag?13:59
obertMickOat:  than kubuntu man should advice their users:P14:00
MickOatobert: I've honestly never heard of the bouncy ball doing that before14:00
obertbut do you feel happy with man or is just about me that i never understand how to use their explanations?14:01
MickOat?14:01
obertMickOat:  just enable it, click 'auto bouncing' and set high bouncying speed:P14:01
MickOatI look for the simple solution14:01
MickOatobert: No. :P14:01
obertcome on..it is fun :P14:02
MickOatcome away from the bouncy ball14:03
obertkill -9 -1  mah14:03
obertuh  killall(1).14:04
obertwell i dont feel man so intuitive still14:05
obertor maybe i just need to get more practice14:07
obertthanks a lot people14:08
MickOatno problemo14:08
rmrfslashSo what's with the VPN tab in the network manager?14:08
rmrfslashcan't do anything with it14:08
rmrfslashDo I need to install network-manager-openvpn-kde for this to be enabled or something?14:09
obertno problemo?:)14:11
MickOatyou're welcome14:11
obertyes yes:P14:12
obertwell some tools looks nice14:15
obertdo you got some preferred tools/config?14:15
MickOatI dunno14:19
obert:)14:21
supermagnumhow do i find all files ending with fdi using the command prompt?14:22
LjLfind -name '*fdi'14:23
supermagnumthanks !14:23
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supermagnumhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112239.014:36
nebulahelp14:39
obertcompiz time:)14:56
oberti have a lot of time to spend today.14:57
obertin useless stuff:P14:57
MickOatI prefer kwin14:58
obertMickOat: never heard about15:01
obertkillall -9 amsn shouldnt works?15:01
edgyHi, today I got updates to kde 4.4.4 and I updated the system but now glxgears and glxinfo show Segmentation Fault, the strange thing is Gnome does works properly15:01
MickOatobert: kwin is part of kde15:02
obertfound it.thanks15:02
obertstill downloadin compiz15:02
MickOatyou dont use kwin?15:03
obertno15:03
MickOatHave you used KDE with effects enabled?15:03
obertthese are my first try on linux15:03
MickOatobert: KDE already has composite effects, it doesn't need compiz15:04
oberti see.but too late15:04
obertapt-get is runnin already15:04
obertsigh.graph signs here too.15:06
obertcant wait for new machine to arrive15:06
rohdefis there know problems with the installer in 10.04?15:08
obertsome issues about bball15:08
rohdefI've got a call from one of my friends telling that it crashed when he should be allowed to select language15:08
rohdefand a second time on the partions screen15:09
rohdefhe also tells that the system gets very very slow when starting the installer15:10
MickOatrohdef: yes, same thing happened to me today... you have to click the "update installer" link when the installer first starts15:11
MickOatrohdef: after that it installs fine15:11
obertis there a way to ctrl+f over yakuake after done a locate?15:11
rohdefMickOat, told him that, thanks a lot15:11
MickOatnp15:12
blueyedAnyone else having problems to get the kdm login screen back when closing the last X session? (e.g. via "awesome" for me, but the same with kwin/plasma/default, too): I just get a blank screen, no way to get to a VT - can only reset the computer.15:44
blueyeddoes not happen when using gdm instead of kdm, and "kdmctl reserve" works to get a new login screen (before logging out of the last session). Using Lucid.15:45
DrknzzHi guys! I just installed kubunut-desktop on my lucid gnome install, and my sound isnt working :S15:46
humanDrknzz, you must set the channels in mixer15:52
humanThe mixer is in the tray by default15:52
Drknzzhuman: i just figured that out, its kinda weird they come pre-muted, eh?15:52
Drknzzhuman: I just thought KDE had sound problems as in the first stable releases15:53
humanYou can type alsamixer in terminal and set it correctly.15:53
humanDrknzz, I have 9.10 and it works here15:54
DrknzzI have Lucid15:55
humanDrknzz, you have tryed to set channels in tray? Have you sound in GNOME?16:01
_jamwhen I click on KRandRTray after transferring the screen to an external VGA monitor, both my laptop and external screen go blank.16:08
_jamIf i right-click on the tray and use the provided contextual menu to enable my laptop display and then disable the external display, everything is fine16:08
_jammy google-fu is returning mostly several year old reports that do not seem relevant anymore. is this a known problem16:08
_jamoh, and right clicking and selecting "Configure display" causes the same blanking problem16:09
_jamI'm able to hit the console and restart kdm and get the screen back (though it goes back to a 1024x768 resolution instead of the native resolution)16:10
_jamis there a CLI program that I can use to restore the screen on one of the monitors?16:11
odhinnHello16:15
sebastianHey guys, i got a ATI ASUS EAH 4670 graphic card, and was woundering if theres any drivers for it, atm i got a driver for radeon but its not working 100%16:18
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DarthFrog!fglrx | sebastian16:18
ubottusebastian: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:18
sebastianthank you16:21
odhinnok guys, got a Webcam that identifies itself as "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13d3:5094 IMC Networks " in lsusb, picture is upside down. Anyone have any suggestions?16:24
sebastiani dont understand it says [Radeon HD 4670] but the radeon drivers dont work as they should, i use the asus driver in windows and it works perfectly, but its not available for linux16:24
oberti got forced rebooted when i'd tried to load a site that is using flash (seems)16:24
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DarthFrogsebastian: ATI provides fglrx drivers for Linux.  I'm using them right now with my Radeon 5770 card.  They work well.16:25
sebastianbut i got asus not ati my bad16:25
sebastianbut its radeon aswell16:26
DarthFrogsebastian: My card is also an Asus.  ATI makes the GPU, though.16:26
sebastianthe problem is, when i use the opensource driver, xbmc works great, but it dont transfer sound through the hdmi cable to my tv, but it does on the official driver, but then the picture dont work on xmbc xD16:27
oberti hate alice.it16:27
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odhinnany ideas for me, DarthFrog?16:28
odhinnyou usually have all the answers! lol16:29
DarthFrogodhinn: Thanks for your confidence. :-)  I've never used a web cam, sorry.16:29
odhinnlol...thanks anyway, I shoulda known it wouldn't be that easy!16:29
DarthFrogodhinn: Personally, I'd just turn the camera upside down. :-)16:30
odhinnunfortunately....it's built-in to a laptop16:30
sebastianturn ur laptop upside down :)16:30
odhinnROFL....I tried that....it's hard to Skype like that!16:31
odhinnall the ppl in Denny's thought I'd gone nuts!16:31
sebastianisnt there any settings in skype where u can transform the picture the opposite way?16:31
odhinnI actually don't know, I don't really yse Skype16:32
odhinn*use16:32
sebastianso what program are u using for ur cam?16:32
odhinnI was just trying to get it working to video chat with Kopete16:32
odhinnI found that it's a known issue with this kind of laptop, but couldn't find a fix16:33
DarthFrogodhinn: If it's important to you, why not disable the on-board camera and pick up a cheap external USB one?16:34
odhinnwas gonna keep that for a last resort16:35
odhinnI'm fairly new to Linux, but only "this time around", I decided this time I was gonna stay put and try to "fix" my problems rather than resorting back to Winblows....lmao16:36
odhinnbut, that's ok....I'll figure it out sometime or another....16:36
odhinngood thing I don't use the webcam that often, eh?16:36
DarthFrogIt gives you a different view of the world. :-)16:37
odhinnhehe16:37
odhinnI suppose one could say that16:37
sebastiananyone knows a good media center with gpu acceleration except xbmc?16:38
odhinnsorry, sebastian, I don't...don't really use one either16:38
DarthFrogsebastian: Check out Mythbuntu16:39
sebastianbut thats an OS tho isnt it?16:39
DarthFrogIt's Ubuntu/Kubuntu with MythTV & control center utility.16:40
DarthFrogBy default, it uses XFCE but you can install either Kubuntu or Ubuntu desktop.16:40
sebastianok thx16:40
DarthFrogXFCE is good, tho.16:40
sebastiani like eyecandy tho :D16:41
odhinnlmao16:41
odhinnI've never actually used/seen XFCE16:41
* odhinn 16:42
DarthFrog!xubuntu | odhinn16:42
ubottuodhinn: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels16:42
odhinnoops16:42
sebastiani cant even activate the desktop effects with any driver, the fglrx or the standard one16:42
odhinnthanks, DarthFrog, I know what it is, just haven't used/seen it16:44
odhinnI'm partial to KDE16:44
sebastiananyone knows why it says composition effects is not supported on ur system when i got the fglrx drivers?16:46
odhinnWB, sebastian, and no, sorry16:47
sebastianok, on top of that i get some screen flashes also16:47
odhinnthat's one thing I CAN identify with....from time to time I get a flash across the bottom third of my screen16:48
odhinnbut I just have an onboard Intel gpu16:49
sebastianits weird cause the driver that comes with kubuntu is better then the fglrx, but the difference is that i can transfer sound through my hdmi with the fglrx16:50
epimethmy sound stopped working... I am told that a sound device was disconnected and when I check what it is it says that there is no playback/recording through the pulseaudio server16:50
DT[AtWork]what is the command line to install a .bin file. adobe AIR is the file in question16:54
odhinnepimeth: that happened to me about two days ago, I ignored it and kept doing what I was doing, now it has playback.recording through the pulseaudio server, don't think I did anything to achieve that result tho16:55
epimethodhinn: I was ignoring it for a while because sound kept working, but now sound isn't working anymore!16:55
DarthFrogIt is my experience that PulseAudio in Kubuntu is much more trouble than it's worth.  I yank it out every time.16:56
odhinnhave you rebooted since you got the msg?16:56
odhinnyank it out how, DarthFrog16:56
odhinn?16:56
DarthFrogodhinn: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio16:56
epimethDarthFrog: and what is used instead?  Does alsa take over?16:57
DarthFrog!phonon | epimeth16:57
DarthFrogHmm, Botty doesn't know Phonon.16:58
odhinnlol16:58
epimeth!phonon16:58
odhinnso, the truth is revealed....Botty isn't omniscient after all!16:58
DarthFrogodhinn: Botty is just like Jessica Rabbit. :-)16:59
epimethDarthFrog: so apt-get install phonon?  And it will automagically take over?16:59
DarthFrogShe's just coded that way.16:59
odhinnROFLMAO16:59
DarthFrogepimeth: No, not needed.  Phonon is part and parcel of KDE 4.16:59
delightcan somebody give me a quick hint on how to share a local printer over network (kubuntu lucid)16:59
DarthFrogepimeth: All you need do is yank out PulseAudio.16:59
odhinndoesn't Phonon use the xine backend by default?17:00
epimethso why do we have pulseaudio?  Wait... is that the gnome one?  I accidentally installed ubuntu so I've retained some artifacts from there17:00
delightprimarily want to share over local network to other kubuntu lucid installations ... in a second step also for some windows xp clients17:00
DarthFrogodhinn: By default, yes.  But you can use GStreamer if you wish.17:00
DarthFrog!samba | delight17:00
ubottudelight: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:00
odhinnI tried that...still in a CC list on the bug report from it....lol17:00
delightDarthFrog: well samba is not the primary target17:01
DarthFrogSound is a clusterfsck in Kubuntu Karmic & Lucid.17:01
delightwant to share from kubuntu to kubuntu ... don't need the samba (hopefully) for that17:01
odhinnnod17:01
DarthFrogdelight: You said you want Windows clients.  Linux will also use Samba printers.17:02
delightwell not primarily17:02
DarthFrogIn some cases, Samba is a better solution for Linux than native solutions.17:02
DarthFrogdelight: Then check out CUPS and IPP.17:03
odhinnI still have Gstreamer backend installed, but I had to let it defer to xine or it causes several things to crash at app startup17:03
DarthFrog!cups | delight17:03
ubottudelight: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows17:03
epimethDarthFrog: I'm restarting... I hope pulseaudio was the problem :-)17:03
odhinnhurry back , epimeth17:04
odhinnyou a football fan, DarthFrog?17:04
DarthFrogodhinn: Yes.17:05
odhinnlet me guess, MU?17:05
DarthFrog<- is Canadian.17:05
odhinnwho's your team, then?17:06
odhinn<- is one of your southern 'brothers'17:06
DarthFrogUm, chatting & off-topic discussion isn't allowed on channel, sorry.17:06
odhinnoh....sorry then17:06
odhinnback to sound then...do you know what would cause my sound level to be super-low, even with all the sliders at max?17:07
razd^ mine does that, too... if anyone has suggestions, that'd be great17:08
DT[AtWork]anyone know the command line to install a .bin file?17:10
BluesKajrazd, odhinn , seems to be a prob for many ,my setup included, depends on the soundcard but intelhda seem suffer most.17:10
odhinnyush....that's the model I have17:11
delightDarthFrog: the point is i cant find the config to share the printer in "kcmshell4 system-config-printer-kde"17:11
epimethDarthFrog: nope... no sound :-(17:11
odhinnnone at all, epimeth?17:12
epimethnada17:12
BluesKajDT[AtWork], .bin files are usually exe files , should just work by clicking on it or ./nameoffile in the konsole17:13
odhinncheck your multimedia settings make sure it's not still trying to use the Pulseaudio server17:13
DT[AtWork]clicking want wine to open it. but thaks for the command17:13
DT[AtWork]crunchbang has so many thing screwed up o.O17:13
odhinnI removed my Pulseaudio and it is still listed for some reason17:13
odhinnI just set it to defer to the hardware17:14
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epimethpulseaudio isn't there17:15
BluesKajodhinn, purge pulseaudio, it will be gone but it will still show in syssettings/media, even tho it doewsn't do anything17:15
epimethclicking on "test" for HDA Intel (STAC92XX) doesn't do anything17:15
BluesKaj!intelhda |epimeth17:16
ubottuepimeth: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:16
epimethcheers BluesKaj ... long time no see :-)17:16
DT[AtWork]keeps telling me "command not found"17:16
BluesKajhi epimeth :)17:16
BluesKajDT[AtWork], cd to the filepath in the terminal then run the ./filename17:17
DT[AtWork]tried that17:18
DT[AtWork]./AIR.bin says "permission denied"17:18
BluesKajDT[AtWork], what is the app?17:18
DT[AtWork]adobe AIR17:18
BluesKajDT[AtWork], try sudo17:18
DT[AtWork]adding sudo gets me "command not found"17:18
DT[AtWork]tried to re download it, same issue17:21
BluesKajDT[AtWork], http://www.air-tutorial.com/installing-adobe-air-on-linux17:23
DT[AtWork]why thank you17:25
DT[AtWork]i get redirected to the same download >.>17:26
DT[AtWork]reading the rest of the article17:26
odhinnI think the first(and only) comment holds the crux of the matter, DT[AtWork]...17:27
DT[AtWork]i folowed the rest of the directions and it works17:28
DT[AtWork]thaks BluesKaj17:28
odhinnWOOT!17:28
epimethBluesKaj: all right, lets see if it worked... restart! :-)17:29
DT[AtWork]the first comment applies to the old beta version of AIR for Linux. that doesn't exist anymore17:29
odhinnahhh17:29
DT[AtWork]now lets see it tweek deck runs!17:31
DT[AtWork]that would be a negative. seems kwallet is interfering >.>17:33
epimethBluesKaj: didn't work :-(17:33
DT[AtWork]oh well, i'll figure the rest out myself, thanks for the help!17:33
epimethunless, of course, I chose the wrong model... is there any way to test without restarting?17:33
epimethfrom http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/XPSm1530 I have the correct model, but still no sound...17:38
epimethit works!  I had to turn up the volume in alsamixer :-)17:42
epimethniiice17:42
epimethcheers peeps17:42
n8wdamn...i got finally s2disk workin on 10.4.)17:43
sravanjehow can we master in kubuntu17:43
paurumintHi all!17:45
paurumintDoes anyone copy?17:46
sravanjehow can i learn about server administration with in the single system17:47
BluesKajsravanje, explain what you are trying to do pls ,your Q is rather vague17:52
blueyedsravanje: you mean with only a shell on your hands?17:53
sravanjeyes, i mean only with shell or on command prompt17:55
sravanjei want to learn linux administration17:55
DarthFrogsravanje: Then just get stuck into it.  Just do it.  The best way is to solve problems.17:56
DarthFrogsravanje: Read an awful lot of material about Linux itself.17:57
gribsHi, could you help? How to set up multitouch on my laptop on kubuntu 10.04?17:57
goodtimethat sounds like a tuffy17:57
shadeslayer_gribs: well touchscreens are not entirely supported17:57
gribsno, i'm mean touchpad17:58
DarthFrogsravanje: Download the kernel source code from kernel.org and compile yourself a new kernel from stratch.  Install this new kernel. :-)17:58
sravanjei mean with in the single system not with in tha lan atleast how can we operates all the things through kubuntu17:58
shadeslayer_gribs: you might have more luck with ubuntu17:58
odhinnDarthFrog: I'd like to learn how to compile my own kernel from scratch...can you suggest some resources?17:59
shadeslayer_sravanje: well the first thing about linux administration is package management... imo17:59
shadeslayer_odhinn: theres the ubuntu wiki17:59
shadeslayer_it has good instructions on how to compile your own kernel18:00
odhinnany other suggestions for reading material?18:00
shadeslayer_!kernel > odhinn18:00
ubottuodhinn, please see my private message18:00
DarthFrogshadeslayer_: Package management is important, I agree.  But first should be simply learning how Linux runs, what the directories are and setting run-levels.18:00
shadeslayer_DarthFrog: well that and understanding the FS,how dirs work,what goes where is important too18:01
shadeslayer_anyways im out of time.. gtg :P18:01
DarthFrogshadeslayer_: Exactly.  Otherwise you'll end up with a dog's breakfast.18:01
odhinnDarthFrog: was that you sending me the msg from ubottu?18:02
odhinnnvm18:02
odhinnjust saw the line where shadeslayer did it18:02
sravanjei have 2 os's windowsxp sp2 & kubuntu in my system accessing through grub file in the boot time, but when i format c drive for windows , i am unable to accessing to kubuntu because my grub file is missing what can i do?18:03
BluesKaj!windows18:03
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents18:03
BluesKajoops:)18:04
odhinnsravanje: when you install windows, it destroys your grub installation in the MBR, you need to reinstall grub from the LiveCD18:04
DarthFrogodhinn: No, it was shadeslayer.18:04
gribs_it's sad. But i should enable shmconfig, right? How to do this?18:04
odhinnI learned that the hard way as well...lol18:04
BluesKaj!grub18:04
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.18:04
BluesKajoops again18:05
sravanjein which option i can install only grub with live cd18:05
BluesKaj!grub218:05
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub218:05
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DarthFrogsravanje:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows18:06
BluesKajI wish the powers that be would update ubottu's grub info to a more current state.18:08
sravanjethanks all of you18:09
odhinnlmao....if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.......18:09
odhinngood luck, sravanje18:09
BluesKajit's not too much to ask , since there have been 2 releases since that grub botscript was relavent18:10
sravanjein ubuntu 9.04 , when installing after restart, in manual option, it is giving accessing only to make one partition, if we want extra partition in the installation time it is not giving chance , so, how can we do this at install time or after installing18:12
BluesKajsravanje, download gparted live cd iso , burn to disk and use it to edit, resize, format etc your partitions18:14
sravanjehow can we download gparted live cd iso from where18:15
BluesKajit's been my experience that using a separate partition editor is easier than the live ikubuntu install cd18:15
BluesKajsravanje, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php18:17
sravanjehow it is  using a separate partition editor, where is it available for us18:17
BluesKajsravanje,  a hint , google-linux is your friend :)18:18
csgeek_so.. for some reason.. I rebooted my computer (silly power outage) and now my KDE profile says the network-manager is disabled.18:18
BluesKajcsgeek_, right click on it in the panel , manage connections18:19
csgeek_I can get to it from the system settings.. right click it shows as: "Network Manager Disabled"18:20
csgeek_and no other options18:20
BluesKajcsgeek_, in the terminal ,sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart18:22
csgeek_did that already18:22
BluesKajwifi or ethernet, csgeek_?18:23
csgeek_I'm also getting this line:  resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink  which I'm not quiet sure how to fix18:24
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BluesKajcsgeek_, sudo dhclient wlan0 or eth0 , whatever you use18:26
DarthFrogresolv.conf must be a symlink??  Never came across that one.  My resolv.conf isn't a symlink.18:26
BluesKajcould be a setting in resolv.conf that needs to be fixed18:27
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csgeekhmm.. well resolv.conf gets overwritten by dhcp/network manager you use18:30
csgeekI don't see how adjusting resolv.conf would fix the issue.  But anyways.. I'm more interested in network manager for now18:31
BluesKajcsgeek, I asked if you are wifi or ethernet /18:32
csgeekboth18:34
csgeekI can get on using sudo <cli command>18:34
csgeekI'd just need the network manager to respond.18:35
BluesKajcsgeek, which one are trying to use , then ?18:35
csgeekbasically it's not managing any internet connection.18:35
csgeekwired18:35
csgeekmy point was that the UI doesn't seem to be able to communicate with whatever service is running.  I can configure wired, wireless, vpn but it doesn't do anything on any connection18:36
jimmy51_i need a webcam for skype on my home PC.  running kubuntu 10.04 and skype, what's a good webcam?18:37
jimmy51_i'm looking for a firsthand confirmation of one that just plugs in and works18:37
BluesKajok csgeek , open /etc/network/interfaces in the run command or the terminal, check this tutorial , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html18:38
ArGGu^^csgeek is the network manager disabled? or networking disabled?18:41
ArGGu^^csgeek I found google that someone had networking disabled on kubuntu, but network manager was running18:44
ArGGu^^and he got it working with these commands18:44
ArGGu^^sudo service network-manager stop18:44
ArGGu^^cd /var/lib/NetworkManager/18:44
ArGGu^^sudo rm NetworkManager.state18:44
ArGGu^^sudo service network-manager start18:44
FloodBotK3ArGGu^^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:44
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BluesKajArGGu^^, that's if you want to use network manager , in some cases it's best just use /etc/network/interfaces18:46
csgeekhmm.. no idea18:49
csgeekfollowed ArGGu^^'s instructions.. that got me a new icon.  Then I had to kill -9 the knetworkmanager and restart it and now it's working18:49
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csgeekseems to be an issue that's more then just me...18:52
odhinnWB, DarthFrog18:53
DarthFrogodhinn: Tnx.  Just rebooted into the new KDE. :-)18:53
odhinnnew?18:53
odhinnis there a new version?18:53
DarthFrog4.4.418:53
DarthFrogIn the PPA.18:53
odhinnnice18:54
odhinnwhat's the best way to implement it?18:54
razdwhy is it that KNetworkManager needs a KWallet password every time I boot up? I told KWallet to store the password18:54
DarthFrogodhinn:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  after you've enabled the PPA archive.18:54
DarthFrograzd: You have to give it permission to access KWallet.18:55
odhinnnot sure if I've enabled the PPA or not...how would one check?18:56
oberthttp://www.boingboing.net/oimages/danielrobotgameboy.jpg :P18:58
razdDarthFrog: is that in the KWallet settings? I thought I checked the "remember these settings" dialog (or whatever it says) the first time it asked for a password18:58
razdman I wish I still had one of those original brick-sized Gameboys... I think a giant robot could have sneaked up on me while I was playing my old one... it was so fun18:59
DarthFrograzd: I've never played around with KWallet, I just use it. :-)19:08
razdcurses! well, thanks for the tip... I'll search around to see if I can find where I might give appropriate permissions19:10
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spirov92hi, is there a way to check which process is occupying a particular port?19:35
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Whammocan anybody tell me how to purge or uninstall screensaver feature?20:19
Tukzno20:20
Whammoso you're stuck with it too, huh?20:20
Tukzno20:20
Whammolol20:20
Tukzno20:20
Whammook, does anybody know how to turn off screensaver? because no matter what setting I modify the damn thing still goes off every 10 minutes20:22
Tukz 20:26
Tukz 20:26
FloodBotK3Tukz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:26
WhammoI mean, I'd like to purge libkscreensaver5, but Synaptic say it would break kpackagekit, kde-desktop, and others20:26
Tukzwhy you want to purge it20:28
Whammobecause I can't disable it20:28
Whammoand I would never need it in the first place\20:28
Tukzleave it so. it dont need much space on disk20:29
WhammoI don't need space, I simply need my system to take it upon itself to choose to automatically do things I have specifically told it not to do20:29
SpaceMancan you turn off the screen saver in your control panel, maybe in the display section?20:30
Whammoobvoiusly that doesn't work20:30
SpaceManor power saving?20:30
WhammoI know how to hit the apply button etc.20:30
SpaceMan:)20:30
Tukz...20:30
ZachK_heya jono20:31
Whammook I did find a "dim display" in powersave that I overlooked. thanks SpaceMan20:33
jonohey ZachK_20:35
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j2daoshok, ill try in here since ubuntu is a no-go20:55
j2daoshi screwed up, installed arping which removed network-manager. i now have no wifi so i cant apt-get network-manager to fix the issue20:55
j2daoshi have downloaded all the packages for the karmic main,multi,universe repos, added it to the sources.list, did the update and it read in the packages20:56
j2daoshbut when i apt-get install network-manager, it says that it can't find the file. i thought the repos contained the files... what is wrong here?20:57
DarthFrogj2daosh:  Configure wpa_supplicant manually to get wifi working again.20:58
j2daoshi tried, it didn't work20:58
j2daoshit fails at the dhclient step20:58
DarthFrogThat's likely an authentication issue.20:58
j2daoshwell i have since restarted and now i dont have a wireless adapter according to my iwlist20:59
j2daoshall i have is the loopback when i do an ifconfig20:59
j2daoshok, so now how to i get my adapters recognized by the system again?21:00
j2daoshi just tried ifup ath0;ifup wlan0; but it says it is ignoring unknown adapters ath0 and wlan021:01
obertsomeone got experience with ddclient and dyndns.org?21:03
j2daoshvaguely21:04
obert!ping timezone ;)21:04
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:04
j2daoshy?21:04
obertit is asking to create a ddclient.conf but dunno where i should locate it21:04
j2daoshis ddclient the perl version?21:04
obertno idea21:05
j2daoshyep21:05
j2daoshok hold on21:05
obertyes it is21:05
obertthere's 'generate conf file by create ddclient.conf (and anyway i got a wizard via yakuake that will fails when i lauch ddclient from there)21:06
obertbut it is weird that they dont had added a path where to save ddclient.conf21:06
obertit is like when you buy a hd and they forget to give you cables.21:06
j2daoshput it in /etc/21:06
obertmah21:06
obertok thanks21:06
j2daoshhere is  page21:07
j2daoshhttp://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/using_ddclient_with_dyndns_services.html21:07
obertbah. locate ddclient.conf didnt returns /etc/ddclient.conf but now it says it is already exsists21:08
obertuhmf21:08
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obertno way.21:12
j2daoshlol21:13
oberti do sudo dpkg-reconfigure ddclient then the wizard starts but when i arrive to chooce which domains i want to keep updates it'll returns 'host is empty or wrong username and pw, close this wizard and redo sudo dpkg-reconfigure ddclient21:14
obertsame as before i had edit ddclient.conf21:14
obertand at last,i'm OT.21:14
obertWARNING:  file /etc/ddclient.conf: Cannot open file '/etc/ddclient.conf'.21:15
j2daoshwhats the perms21:16
j2daoshls -ltr /etc/ddclient21:16
j2daosh*21:17
j2daoshyou can always just look at the page i posted eariler. you can copy one of those, paste it into your ddclient.conf, change the variables to whatever you need them changed to, save it, and then it should just work21:18
BlackFox_Trhello21:19
cablerayso, I maximized dolphin, logged out and then logged back in and dolphin was maximized , but past the nautilus bar and past the tilebar. how do I fix this?21:20
BlackFox_Tri have some problem with python3 is there someone for help?21:20
cablerayi'm not sure if my distro on the schools lab computers is fully kbuntu or not.21:21
obertj2daosh:  -rwxrwxrwx 121:22
obertand btw i started from that page:P21:22
obertobert != lamer21:22
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obertmah21:26
oberteverytime i reopen the .conf file it'll be empty21:28
j2daoshsorry what21:28
oberteh.dont gettin anything usefull21:28
j2daoshhrmm21:29
Xk2cjoin #launchpad21:29
j2daoshwell i cant troubleshoot it presently cuz my linux laptop doesn't have internet so i cant load up ddclient to check21:29
obertthanks the same21:30
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obertweird anyway21:32
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noaXesshey all21:39
oberthey you21:40
noaXesson my notbook, where i installed lucid, i have a touchpad, but i can't configure it in lucid's systemsettings.21:40
judgen_Could anyone direct me to how to display images in links222:01
biloprova22:05
biloè la prima volta che usu questo come fa ccio per scaricare?22:11
Tm_T!it | bilo22:11
ubottubilo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)22:11
bilograzie ,ci provo22:11
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fredyibs???22:30
loHi22:33
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ubsafderhello22:35
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Apollonovichhas anyone else had problems with system stability since upgrading to the latest version?23:05
Apollonovichas in, I came into the office a week ago, to find my system slowed to a crawl, unuable.  I checked the vitals, to find nepomuk using 6G of RAM (11G virt, 6G res).23:06
ApollonovichI killed and disabled it.23:06
Apollonovichsince then, I've found that after a few days of uptime, the system suddenly loses the ability to write to the disk, and I have to reboot (as in, the whole thing crashes).23:07
ApollonovichI'm assuming this is some HAL or dbus BS?23:07
Apollonovichwtf?23:07
sunnydrakeHi. Is there a way to convert 32bit Kubuntu to 64bit preserving system and app settings ?23:18
avihayhelp, I just accidently deleted a file, but it's still open in another program. how can I restore it?(it's a movie file, so no save-as option)23:30
avihayok, Issue solved23:47
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zusdoes anyone have a ppa for ktorrent 4.23:51
avihayhttp://www.finalcog.com/undelete-open-file-from-inode23:55
corinthHi room. I just installed KDE through the kubuntu-desktop package from Ubuntu. I can't get compositing to be enabled...even though my gfx drivers are installed. Help?23:58

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