| arand | Seems like the metacity fix is being pushed finally, (wouldn't be to fun to have that in A1...) | 01:10 |
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| gbillings | how to upgrade to 10.10 prealpha? | 01:16 |
| arand | gbillings: Don't know if do-release-upgrade -d has been enabled, yet, otherwise, grab a daily build for freshinstall, or edit sources.list. disable PPAs, etc. and use aptitude. | 01:18 |
| gbillings | arand: gracias! | 01:18 |
| arand | !daily | 01:19 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 01:19 |
| gnomefreak | arand: ~A1 | 01:19 |
| gnomefreak | normally | 01:19 |
| gbillings | arand: is there and update-manage flag that I could use to prevent the download of such large file? | 01:19 |
| arand | gnomefreak: The guided updates tends to get enabled around that time? | 01:20 |
| arand | gbillings: such large what? | 01:20 |
| gnomefreak | arand: yes normally right after but deends on how over booked mvo is | 01:21 |
| gbillings | what I mean is something like: $ update-manager -x ; a large iSO | 01:21 |
| arand | gbillings: You don't get an iso via update-manager -d (or do-release-upgrade) | 01:21 |
| gbillings | never mind i phrased incorectly my bad | 01:22 |
| * gnomefreak has to update my rsync/zsync srcipts if i ever find out other problem | 01:23 | |
| gnomefreak | arand: any chance you know of an app/tool that will mount a drive that cant be mounted normally? | 01:24 |
| arand | gnomefreak: mounted *unnormally* in what way exactly? (I probably don't know..) | 01:24 |
| * gnomefreak thinking on how to put it | 01:26 | |
| arand | I mean, you could use foresic tools to extract data, I guess.. | 01:26 |
| gnomefreak | arand: it seems it is a currupt part./format and at best i can get the data or even format drive would be the best | 01:26 |
| * gnomefreak doesnt have 3billon dollar microscope | 01:27 | |
| * arand has used photorec with some success on corrupted filesystems. | 01:28 | |
| gnomefreak | arand: on Linux? | 01:28 |
| arand | Indeed. | 01:28 |
| gnomefreak | testdisk :) | 01:28 |
| gnomefreak | at least that is what a search for photorec showed from our repos | 01:29 |
| arand | I've head that sleuth-toolkit is supposed to be something similar as well... | 01:29 |
| arand | gnomefreak: Yep, that's the one, testdisk is a partition table recovery utility/rewriter | 01:30 |
| gnomefreak | all this for a damn USB stick well 2 of them | 01:30 |
| arand | One of a couple of apps from cgsecurity | 01:30 |
| * gnomefreak hopes for GUI i dont want to think anymore today | 01:30 | |
| arand | photorec is ncurses, but it's fairly straightforward. | 01:31 |
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| gnomefreak | ncurses is fine as long as i dont have to think ;) | 01:32 |
| arand | It will make a terrible organisatory mess of the files it recovers though, but that's unavoidable I guess, since it doesn't recover directory structures, afaik | 01:32 |
| * gnomefreak doesnt care if it splits all text files into 15 piences as long as the stick becomes useful again | 01:33 | |
| arand | gnomefreak: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step has a nice guide... | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | arand: thanks | 01:34 |
| arand | gnomefreak: but for the stick to become useful again...? That's just a reformat isn't it? | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | arand: yeah if i cant get data back but i think something just happened that hasnt happened in days be back in a few | 01:35 |
| * arand is slightly compfused by that sentance | 01:36 | |
| gnomefreak | arand: one of the drives mounted but not the one i had hoped for | 01:38 |
| * gnomefreak wonder what changed. be back in a few see if i cant get other one to work | 01:41 | |
| arand | I've had issues with usb stick suddenly not mounting and seemingly loosing partition tabe or something, but I figured it was because it was old a worn... | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | this one is the one with the data on it and its the one not working and my luck continues | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | arand: it seems that the usb stick has to be mounted for testdisk to work it seems | 01:43 |
| arand | Um, no, it needs a device sdX though. | 01:44 |
| gnomefreak | yeah see that now. just have to remember what it "should" be, but hell im looking | 01:46 |
| gnomefreak | this i have it :) | 01:47 |
| gnomefreak | think | 01:47 |
| arand | dmesg would show what it turns up as presumably | 01:47 |
| * gnomefreak would have thought it was sdd1 but seems im wrong | 01:52 | |
| gnomefreak | Unable to open file or device /dev/sdd with or without the 1 at the end | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | EXT3 FS on sdd1, internal journal it is on sdd1 | 01:55 |
| arand | guess: sudo? | 01:55 |
| gnomefreak | arand: not even sure if it is sdd1 now dmesg is showing sdd1 and sdb1 as removable drives | 01:58 |
| gnomefreak | sda and sdb are hard disks so sdc or sdd would be right | 01:59 |
| arand | testdisk works on drives, not partitions ( since it's a partition table recovery tool) photorec works on either, I think, or just on a dd-copy | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | dmesgt is still showing the lexar that i dont have plugged in | 02:02 |
| gnomefreak | error -110 is popular from dmesg :) | 02:03 |
| mininessie | i upgraded to ubuntu 10.10 now i don't have my minimize maximize close buttons | 02:05 |
| arand | mininessie: Whole window decorations gone? | 02:05 |
| mininessie | yes all i have is the menus like file edir view etc | 02:06 |
| gnomefreak | mininessie: disable compiz | 02:06 |
| gnomefreak | see if that helps (it should) | 02:06 |
| gnomefreak | be back smoke and think | 02:06 |
| mininessie | gnomefreak: i don't have compiz i don't think | 02:07 |
| arand | gnomefreak: mininessie Actually enabling compiz is what might work... | 02:07 |
| mininessie | arand: i tried it didn't work | 02:07 |
| arand | mininessie: Is the whole window border gone, and this happens when you start firefox? | 02:07 |
| mininessie | arand: it affects all my windows | 02:09 |
| mininessie | arand: yes | 02:10 |
| arand | mininessie: than install metaciy metacity-common and libmetacity-private0 from https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+packages | 02:10 |
| arand | mininessie: This should get updated soon, but it's the same fix as will be pushed through the normal updates I think | 02:11 |
| gnomefreak | there was a bug on compiz causing that problem at least a few weeks ago | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | maybe light-themes? | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | ok 100% sure it is sdd | 02:12 |
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| arand | Um, maybe no. | 02:12 |
| arand | Bug #584287 | 02:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 584287 in metacity (Ubuntu) "Unexpected X error (BadDrawable) causing metacity to abort in maverick" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584287 | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | sda sda are both hard disks sdc IIRC is usb mouse | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | i dont think that is the bug he is seeing | 02:13 |
| arand | Do you have a sdX device name for your mouse? freaky... | 02:13 |
| arand | I think it is | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | atnot sure | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | arand: not sure evenm | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | sifting through dmesg is not fun or fast | 02:15 |
| arand | And "nessie" might be a she, even. | 02:15 |
| gnomefreak | [ 0.373923] input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /devices/virtual/input/input2 | 02:15 |
| arand | gnomefreak: grep sd | 02:15 |
| arand | with some -C# I guess | 02:15 |
| mininessie | arand: okay i installed them now what | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | [ 6.671451] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | than what is sdd | 02:16 |
| arand | mininessie: Either relogin, or run metacity --replace &disown in a treminal | 02:16 |
| arand | s/treminal/terminal/ | 02:16 |
| gnomefreak | thats why fta has been busy | 02:17 |
| mininessie | arand: thanks for the fix | 02:17 |
| arand | mininessie: worked well? | 02:17 |
| mininessie | arand: yes | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | [ 1878.905976] EXT3 FS on sdd1, internal journal tells me it is sdd1 for usb stick. no doubt in my mind | 02:18 |
| arand | gnomefreak: THe fix was posted a while ago, no one sponsored it 'till now :( | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | and i still cant get testdisk running using a /dev/* | 02:19 |
| * gnomefreak goes to look at bug report | 02:19 | |
| mininessie | what will be changed visually in ubuntu 10.10 without upgrading to gnome 3 or gnome shell | 02:19 |
| arand | mininessie: Windicators, seems to be a main thing, maybe new ubuntu font | 02:20 |
| mininessie | arand: okay | 02:20 |
| * gnomefreak tried 10.10 to get usb stick working and fiesty/karmic/lucid and maverick and win. atm on Lucid for this try again | 02:20 | |
| gnomefreak | that explains why i didnt get a GUI :) | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | arand: yes i remember that bug | 02:22 |
| arand | And the Client-Side-Decorations (enabling windicators) is what made this bug in metacity crop up :D | 02:22 |
| * gnomefreak misses the days when i was able to log in once in LP | 02:23 | |
| mininessie | i bet conanical is already working on 11.04 | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | mininessie: give us some time we just got out of gates for 10.10 | 02:24 |
| gnomefreak | we(them) havent picked a name yet | 02:25 |
| mininessie | gnomefreak: well how can they have an alpha already | 02:25 |
| arand | mininessie: It's planned, but all work goes into 10.10 atm. | 02:25 |
| arand | mininessie: There's no alpha for 11.04 ... | 02:25 |
| mininessie | arand: okay will 10.10 have a dock | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | arand: what do you make of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/443068/ | 02:26 |
| arand | mininessie: I would guess not | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | not likely | 02:26 |
| gnomefreak | UDS just finished a couple of weeks ago so there is nothing set in stone yet | 02:26 |
| arand | mininessie: ubuntu unity will have a sidebar though, and a pretty different, mutter/clutter-something interface | 02:26 |
| mininessie | arand: well the global menu is like mac | 02:27 |
| arand | I'm not completely sure if unity is supposed to replace netbook edition or whatever | 02:27 |
| gnomefreak | oh you have got to be kidding me with unity :( | 02:28 |
| arand | Yea, but grobal menu is only happening on unity (NBE) I think | 02:28 |
| arand | gnomefreak: Whatso? | 02:28 |
| arand | *unity, (and NBE?) | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | IIRC Unity is Ubuntu+-M$ | 02:28 |
| gnomefreak | but reading | 02:29 |
| arand | gnomefreak: Well unity isn't ubuntu light (which is supposed to use unity) is | 02:29 |
| arand | *isn't, | 02:29 |
| arand | "A dual-boot in every home" | 02:30 |
| arand | I don't really think the idea is that bad per see, since it's what everyone does the first time they get onto ubuntu anyways, I would guess | 02:31 |
| * gnomefreak didnt but yes i see what you mean | 02:31 | |
| arand | And possibly a way to sneak into the resellers market... it makes bucketloads of sense from canonicals point of view, whether or not it's FSF or Boycottnovell, or loathe-M$ -friendly, that's a whole nother matter.. and likely something which canonical doesn't care too much about. | 02:34 |
| mininessie | arand: can i get the new gnome main menu without upgrading to gnome shell or gnome 3 | 02:37 |
| gnomefreak | i dont think so but havent tried | 02:38 |
| mininessie | okay | 02:38 |
| * gnomefreak thinks PhotoRec is great in theory but it still only is useful for hard disks but still playing with it | 02:39 | |
| gnomefreak | doesnt gnome-shell give you an option on to load gnoem or gnome-shell from login screen | 02:44 |
| mininessie | punch me | 03:15 |
| bukayoo | flash crashing on chromium..any idea? fresh install | 03:23 |
| Volkodav | very early marriage | 03:31 |
| knittl | #584287 | 06:31 |
| knittl | bug #584287 | 06:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 584287 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "Unexpected X error (BadDrawable) causing metacity to abort in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584287 | 06:31 |
| knittl | This bug was fixed in the package metacity - 1:2.30.1-1ubuntu2 | 06:31 |
| knittl | dupondje: | 06:32 |
| dupondje | I know :) | 06:32 |
| knittl | ah, you're still awake :> | 06:33 |
| knittl | ah, you commented with the diff and gtk+ assumption | 06:34 |
| knittl | dupondje: but the new packages haven't made it to the repos yet? | 06:37 |
| dupondje | there is always some delay :( | 06:51 |
| dupondje | now I gonne look to fix my other system :s | 07:21 |
| dupondje | since I replaced cpu, it segfaults @ random :s | 07:22 |
| dupondje | I have no idea :s | 07:22 |
| DanaG | memtest? | 07:28 |
| dupondje | did that, works fine :s | 07:31 |
| DanaG | hmm. | 07:32 |
| DanaG | WEird. | 07:32 |
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| dupondje | DanaG: http://dupondje.be/DSCF1025.JPG :P | 09:09 |
| DanaG | Hardware name: Syatem Product Name. | 09:10 |
| DanaG | er | 09:10 |
| DanaG | System Product Name. | 09:10 |
| DanaG | Nice. | 09:10 |
| dupondje | :P | 09:11 |
| DanaG | Sounds similar to the "To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M." | 09:12 |
| BUGabundo_remote | tear your eyes out :O | 09:12 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ohh I got LOADs of those messages in my BIOS | 09:12 |
| DanaG | most awesome thing on my laptop: serial-over-lan. | 09:14 |
| DanaG | Handy for grabbing full stacktraces. | 09:14 |
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| BUGabundo_remote | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=45625 | 11:21 |
| BUGabundo_remote | anyone else can reproduce with chromium dialy? | 11:21 |
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| gnomefreak | mvo: have you enabled -d in update-manager yet? | 13:22 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: yes, but it will only work if the user sets "release-upgrades" to "normal" in /etc/update-manager/ release-upgrades | 13:23 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: thanks | 13:23 |
| mvo | np | 13:27 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: i dont see a way of changing the settings for "normal" i am guessing just removing the #'s at "normal" | 13:33 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: here is what i am seeing http://paste.ubuntu.com/443302/ | 13:36 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: there is a gui for it in software-properties-gtk (that is installed by default) | 13:38 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: thanks | 13:39 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: under "update" and release upgrades | 13:39 |
| dupondje | update-manager -d works since some time? I did upgrade from lucid to maverick with it already :) | 13:39 |
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| gnomefreak | mine was set to LTS and really shouldnt have been IMO since this box is Lucid | 13:57 |
| yofel | erm, lucid is lts? | 13:59 |
| yofel | and lts->lts upgrades are the default there | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo_remote | LOL | 14:00 |
| yofel | ok, got the kde mess sorted out on my other pc, guess I'll upgrade this later | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo_remote | come one gnomefreak.... what a fail :) | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo_remote | wei | 14:00 |
| * gnomefreak wonders why i cant launch anything from "Favorites" wonders why they are there | 14:03 | |
| * gnomefreak gets the feeling gnome3 will not make it in 10.10 | 14:16 | |
| gnomefreak | ok off for a bit. | 14:20 |
| jmfthevci | Just upgraded 10.04 > 10.10. Module recompiles fail as /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.34-5-generic/includes/linux has incomplete contents. autoconf.h is missing and version.h does not appear correct. Anyone else seen this? | 15:31 |
| jmfthevci | Upgrade was othewise OK. No issues. Running on VMware. Re-comple of VMware Tools is failing because of this issue. | 15:32 |
| jmfthevci | Is this worth a bug report or not? | 15:33 |
| jmfthevci | Sorted. autoconf.h and utsrelease have been moved to includes/generated. This will mess up VMware and their tools scripts (vmware-config.pl) | 15:41 |
| jmfthevci | (bit of a one-sided conversation that...) | 15:44 |
| yofel | heh | 15:45 |
| yofel | would be a bug in vmware then IMHO | 15:45 |
| jmfthevci | Yup, a bug in vmware but only because the kernel team moved the file? Why? Found the comment in here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-maverick-misc | 15:46 |
| jmfthevci | This move might impact various "stand-alone" items that need post-install compilation. Not just VMware | 15:47 |
| yofel | jmfthevci: well, I'm not sure if they did it or the upstream kernel devs did the change, but you can find the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel if you want to ask them | 15:50 |
| jmfthevci | I'll go ask. | 15:50 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, my vmware just downloaded new tools for linux | 16:03 |
| bukayoo | upgraded libgtk2.0-0 didn't fix the flash crashing in chrome..had to downgrade to lucid version to work | 16:05 |
| jmfthevci | patdk-wk: This is VMware vSphere 4.0 (update1) and all current patches. Says that VMware tools is uptodate for this VM. | 16:13 |
| patdk-wk | this was vmware workstations | 16:14 |
| patdk-wk | I could check my vshphere | 16:14 |
| patdk-wk | well, esx | 16:14 |
| jmfthevci | patdk-wk: I got round the issue. I'm sure someone in VMware will find out soon enough. | 16:15 |
| patdk-wk | ya, they normally do, a few weeks after I run into it :) | 16:15 |
| jmfthevci | My ESX patch is to 27-May-2010 ESXi400-2010050402-BG Updates VMware Tools. | 16:16 |
| jmfthevci | I just thought, as I have the VM handy, that I'd try the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. It worked fine, no issues. | 16:17 |
| jmfthevci | (except the subsequent VMware module recompiles) | 16:17 |
| patdk-wk | hmm, this vmwar eworkstation tools update is under 2weeks old | 16:22 |
| yofel | hm, apport doesn't correctly parse the .crash info anymore. I uses the old package version instead of the new one in the 'Package:' field, even though the .crash fine has the correct one | 16:39 |
| dp_ | I can't install pidgin under maverick because it depends (at some level) on both gstreamer-plugins-bad and gstream-plugins-good, which can't be installed together | 16:40 |
| dp_ | granted, I'm using the maverick ppa for pidgin, but still | 16:40 |
| yofel | gstreamer-plugins is broken here too | 16:42 |
| dp_ | ok, so it's not just me? | 16:44 |
| yofel | nope, if I try to update good it wants to remove -bad | 16:45 |
| dp_ | ok. where would I go to look for a bug report? | 16:45 |
| yofel | gst-plugins-good0.10 or gst-plugins-bad0.10 on LP, I'll look myself later once I'm finished upgrading | 16:47 |
| Ian_Corne | any idea when ppa's will support changelogs? | 16:47 |
| jpds | Ian_Corne: #launchpad. | 16:48 |
| yofel | Ian_Corne: you mean in aptitude or on LP? | 16:48 |
| Ian_Corne | thanks :) | 16:48 |
| Ian_Corne | i mean in update-manager, so I guess in aptitude? | 16:49 |
| yofel | oh, UM | 16:49 |
| yofel | mvo_: ^ | 16:49 |
| jpds | That would be considerably harder. | 16:49 |
| yofel | ok, upgrade finished... brb | 16:51 |
| * patdk-wk wonders | 16:53 | |
| patdk-wk | using flashcache on linux, inside vmware | 16:53 |
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| shishire | Alpha 1 is still scheduled for tomorrow? Will there be an iso? | 19:32 |
| arand | shishire: presumably (there are already !untested! daily isos...) | 19:39 |
| shishire | arand, where would I go to get one of these isos? | 19:39 |
| arand | !daily | 19:40 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 19:40 |
| shishire | ah, ty | 19:40 |
| shishire | inc vm install :D good to be back on the bug hunt | 19:40 |
| arand | But the A1 iso will probably be *somewhat* more tested, and then again, what is currently the daily, will likely become the A1 iso if no major _major_ issues warrants a resping... | 19:41 |
| arand | shishire: Indeed, stable is boooring! | 19:42 |
| shishire | :D | 19:42 |
| shishire | arand, will I get the A1 from the cdimage.ubunut.com site? or somewhere else? | 19:42 |
| shishire | s/ubunut/ubuntu/ | 19:43 |
| arand | I think it will crop up under releases.ubuntu.com, sometime tomorrow when it's done | 19:43 |
| shishire | oh goodie :D | 19:43 |
| arand | But one could always use zsync to just download the delta (if any) if you already have an iso. | 19:44 |
| * arand wonders how much of a delta lucid-maverick liveCD would be... | 19:45 | |
| stenten | arand: About 1/3 of the ISO differs :) | 19:47 |
| arand | Heh "Target 54.6% complete." that's way more than I expected. | 19:53 |
| stenten | heh, guess they changed even more of it yesterday. | 19:54 |
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| BUGabundo | evening everyone | 23:23 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, howdy | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | hey hey bil | 23:33 |
| hggdh | yo BUGabundo | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | olá hggdh | 23:36 |
| billybigrigger | whats new in +1 | 23:36 |
| BUGabundo | breakage | 23:37 |
| arand | billybigrigger: Both rhythmbox and metacity was fixed :) | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo | on nice | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | but desktop couch still hasn't | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | and I need to upstream another kmail bug | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | and no action on my chromium bug :\ | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | anyone seen crimsun? | 23:52 |
| timboy | sometimes when I boot my laptop i don't have the option to suspend. What can I check to see why that would be happening? | 23:56 |
| yofel | oh nice, someone broke ffmpeg *-.- /usr/bin/mplayer: relocation error: /usr/bin/mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference | 23:56 |
| arand | BUGabundo: When you login on a VT, you get an error with apt and python, could that be related to the "dtcouch thing" and implying that the bug is in python rather? | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | don't think so | 23:57 |
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