[01:10] Seems like the metacity fix is being pushed finally, (wouldn't be to fun to have that in A1...) [01:16] how to upgrade to 10.10 prealpha? [01:18] gbillings: Don't know if do-release-upgrade -d has been enabled, yet, otherwise, grab a daily build for freshinstall, or edit sources.list. disable PPAs, etc. and use aptitude. [01:18] arand: gracias! [01:19] !daily [01:19] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [01:19] arand: ~A1 [01:19] normally [01:19] arand: is there and update-manage flag that I could use to prevent the download of such large file? [01:20] gnomefreak: The guided updates tends to get enabled around that time? [01:20] gbillings: such large what? [01:21] arand: yes normally right after but deends on how over booked mvo is [01:21] what I mean is something like: $ update-manager -x ; a large iSO [01:21] gbillings: You don't get an iso via update-manager -d (or do-release-upgrade) [01:22] never mind i phrased incorectly my bad [01:23] * gnomefreak has to update my rsync/zsync srcipts if i ever find out other problem [01:24] arand: any chance you know of an app/tool that will mount a drive that cant be mounted normally? [01:24] gnomefreak: mounted *unnormally* in what way exactly? (I probably don't know..) [01:26] * gnomefreak thinking on how to put it [01:26] I mean, you could use foresic tools to extract data, I guess.. [01:26] arand: it seems it is a currupt part./format and at best i can get the data or even format drive would be the best [01:27] * gnomefreak doesnt have 3billon dollar microscope [01:28] * arand has used photorec with some success on corrupted filesystems. [01:28] arand: on Linux? [01:28] Indeed. [01:28] testdisk :) [01:29] at least that is what a search for photorec showed from our repos [01:29] I've head that sleuth-toolkit is supposed to be something similar as well... [01:30] gnomefreak: Yep, that's the one, testdisk is a partition table recovery utility/rewriter [01:30] all this for a damn USB stick well 2 of them [01:30] One of a couple of apps from cgsecurity [01:30] * gnomefreak hopes for GUI i dont want to think anymore today [01:31] photorec is ncurses, but it's fairly straightforward. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [01:32] ncurses is fine as long as i dont have to think ;) [01:32] It will make a terrible organisatory mess of the files it recovers though, but that's unavoidable I guess, since it doesn't recover directory structures, afaik [01:33] * gnomefreak doesnt care if it splits all text files into 15 piences as long as the stick becomes useful again [01:33] gnomefreak: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step has a nice guide... [01:34] arand: thanks [01:34] gnomefreak: but for the stick to become useful again...? That's just a reformat isn't it? [01:35] arand: yeah if i cant get data back but i think something just happened that hasnt happened in days be back in a few [01:36] * arand is slightly compfused by that sentance [01:38] arand: one of the drives mounted but not the one i had hoped for [01:41] * gnomefreak wonder what changed. be back in a few see if i cant get other one to work [01:42] I've had issues with usb stick suddenly not mounting and seemingly loosing partition tabe or something, but I figured it was because it was old a worn... [01:42] this one is the one with the data on it and its the one not working and my luck continues [01:43] arand: it seems that the usb stick has to be mounted for testdisk to work it seems [01:44] Um, no, it needs a device sdX though. [01:46] yeah see that now. just have to remember what it "should" be, but hell im looking [01:47] this i have it :) [01:47] think [01:47] dmesg would show what it turns up as presumably [01:52] * gnomefreak would have thought it was sdd1 but seems im wrong [01:53] Unable to open file or device /dev/sdd with or without the 1 at the end [01:55] EXT3 FS on sdd1, internal journal it is on sdd1 [01:55] guess: sudo? [01:58] arand: not even sure if it is sdd1 now dmesg is showing sdd1 and sdb1 as removable drives [01:59] sda and sdb are hard disks so sdc or sdd would be right [01:59] testdisk works on drives, not partitions ( since it's a partition table recovery tool) photorec works on either, I think, or just on a dd-copy [02:02] dmesgt is still showing the lexar that i dont have plugged in [02:03] error -110 is popular from dmesg :) [02:05] i upgraded to ubuntu 10.10 now i don't have my minimize maximize close buttons [02:05] mininessie: Whole window decorations gone? [02:06] yes all i have is the menus like file edir view etc [02:06] mininessie: disable compiz [02:06] see if that helps (it should) [02:06] be back smoke and think [02:07] gnomefreak: i don't have compiz i don't think [02:07] gnomefreak: mininessie Actually enabling compiz is what might work... [02:07] arand: i tried it didn't work [02:07] mininessie: Is the whole window border gone, and this happens when you start firefox? [02:09] arand: it affects all my windows [02:10] arand: yes [02:10] mininessie: than install metaciy metacity-common and libmetacity-private0 from https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/sandbox/+packages [02:11] mininessie: This should get updated soon, but it's the same fix as will be pushed through the normal updates I think [02:12] there was a bug on compiz causing that problem at least a few weeks ago [02:12] maybe light-themes? [02:12] ok 100% sure it is sdd === Nigel_ is now known as G [02:12] Um, maybe no. [02:13] Bug #584287 [02:13] Launchpad bug 584287 in metacity (Ubuntu) "Unexpected X error (BadDrawable) causing metacity to abort in maverick" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584287 [02:13] sda sda are both hard disks sdc IIRC is usb mouse [02:13] i dont think that is the bug he is seeing [02:13] Do you have a sdX device name for your mouse? freaky... [02:14] I think it is [02:14] atnot sure [02:14] arand: not sure evenm [02:15] sifting through dmesg is not fun or fast [02:15] And "nessie" might be a she, even. [02:15] [ 0.373923] input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /devices/virtual/input/input2 [02:15] gnomefreak: grep sd [02:15] with some -C# I guess [02:16] arand: okay i installed them now what [02:16] [ 6.671451] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk [02:16] than what is sdd [02:16] mininessie: Either relogin, or run metacity --replace &disown in a treminal [02:16] s/treminal/terminal/ [02:17] thats why fta has been busy [02:17] arand: thanks for the fix [02:17] mininessie: worked well? [02:18] arand: yes [02:18] [ 1878.905976] EXT3 FS on sdd1, internal journal tells me it is sdd1 for usb stick. no doubt in my mind [02:18] gnomefreak: THe fix was posted a while ago, no one sponsored it 'till now :( [02:19] and i still cant get testdisk running using a /dev/* [02:19] * gnomefreak goes to look at bug report [02:19] what will be changed visually in ubuntu 10.10 without upgrading to gnome 3 or gnome shell [02:20] mininessie: Windicators, seems to be a main thing, maybe new ubuntu font [02:20] arand: okay [02:20] * gnomefreak tried 10.10 to get usb stick working and fiesty/karmic/lucid and maverick and win. atm on Lucid for this try again [02:21] that explains why i didnt get a GUI :) [02:22] arand: yes i remember that bug [02:22] And the Client-Side-Decorations (enabling windicators) is what made this bug in metacity crop up :D [02:23] * gnomefreak misses the days when i was able to log in once in LP [02:24] i bet conanical is already working on 11.04 [02:24] mininessie: give us some time we just got out of gates for 10.10 [02:25] we(them) havent picked a name yet [02:25] gnomefreak: well how can they have an alpha already [02:25] mininessie: It's planned, but all work goes into 10.10 atm. [02:25] mininessie: There's no alpha for 11.04 ... [02:26] arand: okay will 10.10 have a dock [02:26] arand: what do you make of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/443068/ [02:26] mininessie: I would guess not [02:26] not likely [02:26] UDS just finished a couple of weeks ago so there is nothing set in stone yet [02:26] mininessie: ubuntu unity will have a sidebar though, and a pretty different, mutter/clutter-something interface [02:27] arand: well the global menu is like mac [02:27] I'm not completely sure if unity is supposed to replace netbook edition or whatever [02:28] oh you have got to be kidding me with unity :( [02:28] Yea, but grobal menu is only happening on unity (NBE) I think [02:28] gnomefreak: Whatso? [02:28] *unity, (and NBE?) [02:28] IIRC Unity is Ubuntu+-M$ [02:29] but reading [02:29] gnomefreak: Well unity isn't ubuntu light (which is supposed to use unity) is [02:29] *isn't, [02:30] "A dual-boot in every home" [02:31] I don't really think the idea is that bad per see, since it's what everyone does the first time they get onto ubuntu anyways, I would guess [02:31] * gnomefreak didnt but yes i see what you mean [02:34] And possibly a way to sneak into the resellers market... it makes bucketloads of sense from canonicals point of view, whether or not it's FSF or Boycottnovell, or loathe-M$ -friendly, that's a whole nother matter.. and likely something which canonical doesn't care too much about. [02:37] arand: can i get the new gnome main menu without upgrading to gnome shell or gnome 3 [02:38] i dont think so but havent tried [02:38] okay [02:39] * gnomefreak thinks PhotoRec is great in theory but it still only is useful for hard disks but still playing with it [02:44] doesnt gnome-shell give you an option on to load gnoem or gnome-shell from login screen [03:15] punch me [03:23] flash crashing on chromium..any idea? fresh install [03:31] very early marriage [06:31] #584287 [06:31] bug #584287 [06:31] Launchpad bug 584287 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "Unexpected X error (BadDrawable) causing metacity to abort in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584287 [06:31] This bug was fixed in the package metacity - 1:2.30.1-1ubuntu2 [06:32] dupondje: [06:32] I know :) [06:33] ah, you're still awake :> [06:34] ah, you commented with the diff and gtk+ assumption [06:37] dupondje: but the new packages haven't made it to the repos yet? [06:51] there is always some delay :( [07:21] now I gonne look to fix my other system :s [07:22] since I replaced cpu, it segfaults @ random :s [07:22] I have no idea :s [07:28] memtest? [07:31] did that, works fine :s [07:32] hmm. [07:32] WEird. === jayne_ is now known as jayne [09:09] DanaG: http://dupondje.be/DSCF1025.JPG :P [09:10] Hardware name: Syatem Product Name. [09:10] er [09:10] System Product Name. [09:10] Nice. [09:11] :P [09:12] Sounds similar to the "To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M." [09:12] tear your eyes out :O [09:12] ohh I got LOADs of those messages in my BIOS [09:14] most awesome thing on my laptop: serial-over-lan. [09:14] Handy for grabbing full stacktraces. === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre === cwillu_ is now known as cwillu [11:21] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=45625 [11:21] anyone else can reproduce with chromium dialy? === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [13:22] mvo: have you enabled -d in update-manager yet? [13:23] gnomefreak: yes, but it will only work if the user sets "release-upgrades" to "normal" in /etc/update-manager/ release-upgrades [13:23] mvo: thanks [13:27] np [13:33] mvo: i dont see a way of changing the settings for "normal" i am guessing just removing the #'s at "normal" [13:36] mvo: here is what i am seeing http://paste.ubuntu.com/443302/ [13:38] gnomefreak: there is a gui for it in software-properties-gtk (that is installed by default) [13:39] mvo: thanks [13:39] gnomefreak: under "update" and release upgrades [13:39] update-manager -d works since some time? I did upgrade from lucid to maverick with it already :) === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [13:57] mine was set to LTS and really shouldnt have been IMO since this box is Lucid [13:59] erm, lucid is lts? [14:00] and lts->lts upgrades are the default there [14:00] LOL [14:00] ok, got the kde mess sorted out on my other pc, guess I'll upgrade this later [14:00] come one gnomefreak.... what a fail :) [14:00] wei [14:03] * gnomefreak wonders why i cant launch anything from "Favorites" wonders why they are there [14:16] * gnomefreak gets the feeling gnome3 will not make it in 10.10 [14:20] ok off for a bit. [15:31] Just upgraded 10.04 > 10.10. Module recompiles fail as /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.34-5-generic/includes/linux has incomplete contents. autoconf.h is missing and version.h does not appear correct. Anyone else seen this? [15:32] Upgrade was othewise OK. No issues. Running on VMware. Re-comple of VMware Tools is failing because of this issue. [15:33] Is this worth a bug report or not? [15:41] Sorted. autoconf.h and utsrelease have been moved to includes/generated. This will mess up VMware and their tools scripts (vmware-config.pl) [15:44] (bit of a one-sided conversation that...) [15:45] heh [15:45] would be a bug in vmware then IMHO [15:46] Yup, a bug in vmware but only because the kernel team moved the file? Why? Found the comment in here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-maverick-misc [15:47] This move might impact various "stand-alone" items that need post-install compilation. Not just VMware [15:50] jmfthevci: well, I'm not sure if they did it or the upstream kernel devs did the change, but you can find the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel if you want to ask them [15:50] I'll go ask. [16:03] hmm, my vmware just downloaded new tools for linux [16:05] upgraded libgtk2.0-0 didn't fix the flash crashing in chrome..had to downgrade to lucid version to work [16:13] patdk-wk: This is VMware vSphere 4.0 (update1) and all current patches. Says that VMware tools is uptodate for this VM. [16:14] this was vmware workstations [16:14] I could check my vshphere [16:14] well, esx [16:15] patdk-wk: I got round the issue. I'm sure someone in VMware will find out soon enough. [16:15] ya, they normally do, a few weeks after I run into it :) [16:16] My ESX patch is to 27-May-2010 ESXi400-2010050402-BG Updates VMware Tools. [16:17] I just thought, as I have the VM handy, that I'd try the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. It worked fine, no issues. [16:17] (except the subsequent VMware module recompiles) [16:22] hmm, this vmwar eworkstation tools update is under 2weeks old [16:39] hm, apport doesn't correctly parse the .crash info anymore. I uses the old package version instead of the new one in the 'Package:' field, even though the .crash fine has the correct one [16:40] I can't install pidgin under maverick because it depends (at some level) on both gstreamer-plugins-bad and gstream-plugins-good, which can't be installed together [16:40] granted, I'm using the maverick ppa for pidgin, but still [16:42] gstreamer-plugins is broken here too [16:44] ok, so it's not just me? [16:45] nope, if I try to update good it wants to remove -bad [16:45] ok. where would I go to look for a bug report? [16:47] gst-plugins-good0.10 or gst-plugins-bad0.10 on LP, I'll look myself later once I'm finished upgrading [16:47] any idea when ppa's will support changelogs? [16:48] Ian_Corne: #launchpad. [16:48] Ian_Corne: you mean in aptitude or on LP? [16:48] thanks :) [16:49] i mean in update-manager, so I guess in aptitude? [16:49] oh, UM [16:49] mvo_: ^ [16:49] That would be considerably harder. [16:51] ok, upgrade finished... brb [16:53] * patdk-wk wonders [16:53] using flashcache on linux, inside vmware === yofel_ is now known as yofel === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGa_at_GYM === xerox1 is now known as _PicAssO_ [19:32] Alpha 1 is still scheduled for tomorrow? Will there be an iso? [19:39] shishire: presumably (there are already !untested! daily isos...) [19:39] arand, where would I go to get one of these isos? [19:40] !daily [19:40] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [19:40] ah, ty [19:40] inc vm install :D good to be back on the bug hunt [19:41] But the A1 iso will probably be *somewhat* more tested, and then again, what is currently the daily, will likely become the A1 iso if no major _major_ issues warrants a resping... [19:42] shishire: Indeed, stable is boooring! [19:42] :D [19:42] arand, will I get the A1 from the cdimage.ubunut.com site? or somewhere else? [19:43] s/ubunut/ubuntu/ [19:43] I think it will crop up under releases.ubuntu.com, sometime tomorrow when it's done [19:43] oh goodie :D [19:44] But one could always use zsync to just download the delta (if any) if you already have an iso. [19:45] * arand wonders how much of a delta lucid-maverick liveCD would be... [19:47] arand: About 1/3 of the ISO differs :) [19:53] Heh "Target 54.6% complete." that's way more than I expected. [19:54] heh, guess they changed even more of it yesterday. === xerox1 is now known as _PicAssO_ === thomasn_ is now known as iAmerikan [23:23] evening everyone [23:32] BUGabundo, howdy [23:33] hey hey bil [23:35] yo BUGabundo [23:36] olá hggdh [23:36] whats new in +1 [23:37] breakage [23:51] billybigrigger: Both rhythmbox and metacity was fixed :) [23:52] on nice [23:52] but desktop couch still hasn't [23:52] and I need to upstream another kmail bug [23:52] and no action on my chromium bug :\ [23:52] anyone seen crimsun? [23:56] sometimes when I boot my laptop i don't have the option to suspend. What can I check to see why that would be happening? [23:56] oh nice, someone broke ffmpeg *-.- /usr/bin/mplayer: relocation error: /usr/bin/mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference [23:57] BUGabundo: When you login on a VT, you get an error with apt and python, could that be related to the "dtcouch thing" and implying that the bug is in python rather? [23:57] don't think so