[00:07] <hggdh> er. TB 3.0 -- why can't I change the server type (IMAP, POP, etc)?
[00:08] <yofel> erm, you can, somewhere in the menu when you *create* the account
[00:08] <yofel> took me like 6 attempts until I found it...
[00:09] <hggdh> *only* when you create the bloody account?
[00:10] <yofel> not sure, that's the first place I found it, searched for ages and couldn't find it
[00:10] <hggdh> in my case I reinstalled TB on Lucid, and it decided all my accounts were imap -- which is soooo wrong
[00:10] <hggdh> and I cannot find a place (except in about:config) to change some of them back to POP3
[00:31] <Kangarooo> one strange bug. cpu showing 100% but nothing else then System monitor doesnt show is using CPU
[00:33] <Kangarooo> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot729.php heres proof
[00:33] <arand> Kangarooo: momitor set to show all processes?
[00:37] <Kangarooo> arand: ok all proceses show also apport http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-263.php but why in my proceses theres no apport? usually i see apport in my proceses. also here i dont understand how virtual memory is so much while swap is 0? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-1107.php swap = 0
[00:40] <Kangarooo> ouh that image wrongly shooted. http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-347.php is showing all
[00:40] <arand> Kangarooo: Since it not owned by you? Because virtual memory is not swap?
[00:41] <Kangarooo> arand: but who else? on this comp theres only one user me. and when apport comes it was allways in my processes. and its already 10min using all cpu.
[00:42] <arand> Kangarooo: root?
[00:42] <Kangarooo> but nothing crashed. actually FF crashed 20 times today but didnt gave apport pop up.
[00:45] <Kangarooo> hmm arand in root i put this : sudo -i and then put gdb to check xorg for crash. im tryng to reproduce one crash but cant. so gdb has crashed? in var/crash last crash was 1h 30 min ago
[00:46] <Kangarooo> ops. to reproduce Xorg crash i needed to run gdb as the same user who runs Xorg ?
[00:49] <arand> Kangarooo: No idea, I don't do gdb much.
[00:50] <Kangarooo> i looked when that process started it started 30min ago. apport dont need to go so long
[00:53] <arand> Kangarooo: Presumably no, and possibly it might be proper to report a bug against it (process ID) if that is possible.
[00:56] <Kangarooo> arand: how to ubuntu-bug and the pid ?
[00:57] <arand> Kangarooo: ubuntu-bug -P ####
[00:58] <arand> Kangarooo: ps -A | grep apport   will get you the pid   (pidof seems to fail in this case, dunno why)
[00:58] <Kangarooo> yes thx working
[01:44] <stenten> Could someone please mark Bug #587136 High, Triaged?
[01:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 587136 in linux (Ubuntu) "2nd Resume from Suspend results in reboot on Toshiba Satellite U400. Fixed in 2.6.34 Mainline. (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587136
[01:45] <stenten> I doublechecked the Importance with smb from the kernel team.
[08:00] <stenten> If you get a freeze and then hard reboot, aren't dmesg and Xorg.0.log recorded starting from the reboot, and therefore not relevant for debugging?
[08:04] <ddecator> i'm honestly not sure. is this in regards to the bug 587136 you mentioned earlier?
[08:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 587136 in linux (Ubuntu) "2nd Resume from Suspend results in reboot on Toshiba Satellite U400. Fixed in 2.6.34 Mainline. (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587136
[08:06] <ddecator> stenten: ^
[08:08] <stenten> ddecator: No, it's in regards to debugging procedures on the X wiki.
[08:09] <ddecator> stenten: ok. unfortunately i don't have an answer for you there. however, i did see that nobody marked that bug as triaged/high yet. you said you talked to someone on the kernel team aobut the importance, did they say the report had enough information for them to work on a fix? i haven't worked much with kernel bugs, so i'm not sure how much information they need
[08:09] <ddecator> s/aobut/about
[08:13] <stenten> ddecator: Suspend/Resume issues don't really have a good way of generating helpful information in logs. They're all there though. There's a crazy way to store debug info in the RTC, but the OP has good reasons not to try it and I'm at a loss of what other information to ask for.
[08:14] <stenten> let me check the other triaged suspend/resume bugs real quick as a guideline.
[08:14] <ddecator> stenten: ok, well since you talked with them about the importance, i am comfortable setting that, but i'd prefer someone else who is more familiar with kernel bugs to see if it's ready to be marked triaged or not. thanks for all of the great work :)
[08:15] <stenten> I was going to suggest that as well. Thanks :).
[08:15]  * stenten will go bug the kernel team about it again later today.
[08:16] <ddecator> haha, sounds good. i just know the kernel team has a different workflow and they require a lot of info, so i want to make sure it's all there
[08:17] <stenten> aye
[08:17] <ddecator> alright, marked it as high
[08:18] <stenten> Thanks.
[08:19] <ddecator> no problem :)
[09:12] <BUGabundo_remote> tear your eyes out :O
[09:14] <jpds> No thanks.
[11:12] <Paddy_NI> Hey what is an efficient way of sifting through bugs to see if one that I have in mind is not already reported?
[11:15] <BUGabundo_remote> search for dupes?
[11:15] <BUGabundo_remote> you describe your bug and see if it is reported
[11:15] <BUGabundo_remote> and PLEASE don't go look at latest bugs, or else you will believe you also have them all
[11:16] <Paddy_NI> hehe
[11:17] <Paddy_NI> BUGabundo_remote, well what I want to report a bug against is the autorun dialogues "open folder" icon
[11:17] <Paddy_NI> Its uses the Nautilus seashell logo which is hard for anyone but those in the know to recognise initially as a folder
[11:18] <Paddy_NI> the only other times you see this icon is if you are using one of the stock gtk icon themes or open the about dialogue for nautilus
[11:19] <Paddy_NI> I see no obvious way of reporting a bug on LP
[11:19] <Paddy_NI> I must be blind
[11:21] <BUGabundo_remote> you got me confused now :\
[11:21] <BUGabundo_remote> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=45625
[11:21] <Paddy_NI> never mind found the project I think :P
[11:22] <Paddy_NI> BUGabundo_remote, Umm.. why am I getting a chromium bug report :P
[11:22] <Paddy_NI> this is what I want https://launchpad.net/umenu
[11:23] <BUGabundo_remote> Paddy_NI: it wasn't for you ! :)
[11:23] <Paddy_NI> :)
[11:23] <Paddy_NI> BUGabundo_remote, would this summary cut it "Open folder, Nautilus icon vague"
[11:23] <BUGabundo_remote> sure
[11:24] <Paddy_NI> Or perhaps "Open folder (Nautilus) icon vague"
[11:24] <xelister> kmail crashes
[11:24] <xelister> ALWAYS in 10 seconds since starting it
[11:24] <xelister> this makes me cry. Years pass, and ubuntu can't provide a non constanlty crashing good GUI email client
[11:26] <BUGabundo_remote> xelister: here too. second start works
[11:26] <BUGabundo_remote> do you mind filling upstream with a crash log, and cc me ?
[11:27] <BUGabundo_remote> xelister: gdb --args kmail --nofork
[11:27] <Paddy_NI> BUGabundo_remote, Is this okay https://bugs.launchpad.net/umenu/+bug/588666
[11:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 588666 in umenu "Open folder (Nautilus) icon vague (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[11:28] <seb128> Paddy_NI, why didn't you open that bug against nautilus?
[11:28] <xelister> Im filling it now
[11:28] <Paddy_NI> seb128, its for the autorun dialogue
[11:28] <Paddy_NI> seb128, nautilus can keep its branding if it wants
[11:29] <Paddy_NI> :)
[11:29] <Paddy_NI> nothing wrong there
[11:29] <xelister> hmm I probably should tell #KDE  what I think about Nepomuku and what it's developers can do <_<
[11:29] <xelister> oh, at least I can join #kde-devel
[11:29] <xelister> *shouldnt
[11:29] <BUGabundo_remote> xelister: #kontact and #kubuntu-devel its your place
[11:30] <seb128> Paddy_NI, the dialog is a nautilus one
[11:30] <seb128> nautilus does autorun
[11:30] <Paddy_NI> seb128, seems not from that project page
[11:30] <seb128> what project?
[11:30] <seb128> could you make a screenshot of your issue?
[11:30] <Paddy_NI> yeah
[11:31] <Paddy_NI> Is there a way to include a screenshot on LP?
[11:31] <Paddy_NI> oh dear I filled it in the wrong place
[11:31] <Paddy_NI> X(
[11:31] <Paddy_NI> delete
[11:33] <seb128> ...
[11:33] <Paddy_NI> How do I remove that bug report or possibly move it
[11:34] <BUGabundo_remote> erk
[11:34] <BUGabundo_remote> move it where?
[11:34] <BUGabundo_remote> you need to reasing
[11:34] <Paddy_NI> under nautilus.. seems seb128 was spot on
[11:35] <Paddy_NI> where I reported the bug was in completely the wrong place
[11:35] <BUGabundo_remote> give me a sec
[11:36] <Paddy_NI> I thought it was the autorun prompt that comes up when you insert media in ubuntu, it turns out its the autorun dialogue options launched under windows with the livecd that I reported it under
[11:36] <Paddy_NI> silly
[11:36] <Paddy_NI> first bug I have ever tried to file and I make a pigs ear of it
[11:36] <Paddy_NI> :P
[11:36] <Paddy_NI> perhaps I will try cutting peoples hair next
[11:36] <Paddy_NI> ;D
[11:37] <BUGabundo_remote> should be fine now
[11:37] <Paddy_NI> BUGabundo_remote, you're a gent
[11:38] <Paddy_NI> and cheers for the double check seb128
[11:38] <Paddy_NI> now should I add a screenshot?
[11:39] <BUGabundo_remote> please do
[11:40] <BUGabundo_remote> also, you may want to file it upstream, if seb128 feels that's better
[11:42] <Paddy_NI> ah sure thing.. actually I will be right back, need to get some milk :)
[12:12] <Paddy_NI> I think I am in the wrong place for filing a nautilus upstream bug http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus/Development/Bugs
[12:21] <BUGabundo_remote> Paddy_NI: bugs.gnome.org
[12:22] <BUGabundo_remote> then link both
[12:22] <BUGabundo_remote> also, run $ apport-cli 588666
[12:22] <Paddy_NI> BUGabundo_remote, Hey thanks
[12:22] <BUGabundo_remote> that will add your system settings to the LP bug
[12:22] <yofel> Paddy_NI: generally, if you search for upstreams, start searching here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream ;)
[12:22] <Paddy_NI> :)
[12:23] <Paddy_NI> ah LP is in read-only mode
[12:25] <genux_> lo.. my nickname is genux << and I was going to go through a bug with micahg at 13:00 UTC.. but I am unable to do it now.. if micahg comes online could someone say thanks and I shall try again later.
[12:32] <bencrisford> genux_: sure
[12:33] <genux_> thanks bencrisford
[12:33] <bencrisford> no problem ;)
[12:50] <xelister> cool, I can't use email on Ubuntu 10.04.
[12:53] <bencrisford> xelister: ?
[12:53] <BUGabundo_remote> kmail
[12:53] <BUGabundo_remote> its a bit messy in maverick
[12:53] <BUGabundo_remote> was fine in lucid
[12:54] <xelister> BUGabundo_remote: Im talking about lucid
[12:54] <xelister> 100% reproducable: kmail hangs in first minute after lunching it
[12:55] <bencrisford> xelister: have you reported it as a bug or found an existing bug yet?
[12:55] <xelister> lp is now in maintaince, bencrisford
[12:56] <bencrisford> xelister: oh yeah :/ another 2 hours or something ?
[12:56] <bencrisford> I think I read it on identica
[12:57] <bencrisford> http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus
[13:01] <BUGabundo_remote> just go upstream
[13:40] <xomp> I submitted a bug yesterday that was triaged to php5 (ubuntu). I'm just curious as to how long something like this takes for something like this to fix? I'm having to babysit my webserver to make sure that PHP issue hasn't cropped up again.
[13:41] <xomp> just curious :)
[13:43] <aburch> xomp: Depending on the type of the bug, the maintainer and the weather it could be fixed in hours, days, weeks, years or never ;)
[13:44] <xomp> aburch, ok thanks :) I guess I need to find alternative ways to doctor this up or look into switching back to 8.04 where this problem didn't exist heh
[13:44] <EricJ> xomp: you can always just downgrade php.
[13:45] <EricJ> Probably easier than switching distro :)
[13:45] <xomp> EricJ, it's the same php package that was used in 8.04 heh
[13:46] <xomp> someone suggested setting up a cronjob to check if fastcgi was running and if not, start it back up again, I may do that.
[13:46] <aburch> *If* downgrading works.  Its neither supported nor will it even work.
[13:46] <aburch> s,\., always.,
[13:49] <BUGabundo_remote> EricJ: since php is so intrinscly linked to the web server
[13:49] <BUGabundo_remote> it won't be so easy
[13:50] <BUGabundo_remote> plus, old version might not receive proper updates, and certanely won't, after EOL
[13:50] <BUGabundo_remote> xomp: you got services to do that.
[13:51] <xomp> BUGabundo_remote, I'm afraid I'm so very green to linux that I don't know how or what can do it :(
[13:52] <EricJ> sysadmin'ing (in a good way) is hard. :|
[13:54] <BUGabundo_remote> I know
[13:54] <BUGabundo_remote> our balancer decided to act up tonight
[13:54] <BUGabundo_remote> so its throwing requests to wrong servers
[13:54] <BUGabundo_remote> and retirning 404s
[13:54] <BUGabundo_remote> gor figure
[14:46] <Pici> Whats the proper package or project to file bugs regarding wiki.ubuntu.com against? Its more of a techincal issue than it is a problem with a specific wiki page's content.
[14:59] <xelister> BUGabundo_remote: http://pastebin.ca/1875974
[15:00] <xelister> xomp: what problem?
[15:04] <BUGabundo_remote> Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_dns.so.2
[15:04] <BUGabundo_remote> I had that long ago
[15:04] <BUGabundo_remote> it was fixed
[15:04] <BUGabundo_remote> Pici: ubuntu-website ?
[15:05] <Pici> BUGabundo_remote: Maybe.  I've asked in #ubuntu-doc first
[15:06] <jpds> Pici: RT.
[15:10] <xomp> xelister, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/588506/+activity
[15:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 588506 in php5 (Ubuntu) "fastcgi daemon failing (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[16:43] <nigelb> pedro_: you around?
[16:44] <pedro_> nigelb, yeap
[16:44] <nigelb> I need some help convincing someone, can join in?
[16:44] <pedro_> nigelb, sure, where?
[16:44] <nigelb> pedro_: I *tried* to ask vish to take a class about how to report bugs for UUD.  He feels he can't do it. Can join me in encouraging him to go for it?
[16:45] <nigelb> UUD = Ubuntu user days
[16:45] <pedro_> vish, that's a joke right? ;-)
[16:46] <pedro_> vish, you're a core member of the bugsquad and bugcontrol, why you feel you can't do that class?
[16:47] <pedro_> vish, we can even publicity those with the current students we have at the mentoring program and ask them to attend your class there ;-)
[16:48] <nigelb> +1 :)
[16:48] <AdamJ> DDMD
[16:48] <pedro_> that'd be great, seriously :-)
[16:49] <nigelb> vish: Absolutely no reason to get worked about a class.  You don't even have to look at a large hall of people.  Just look into your irc client ;)
[16:49] <pedro_> vish, i'm sure a lot of people from the bugsquad will be there to support you :-)
[16:55] <vish> oh , oh! i'm away for 5mins and nigelb runs a campaign against me ;p
[16:55] <pedro_> vish, to support you i'd say ;-)
[16:56] <nigelb> vish: If yu'd like more petitioners, I can get them
[16:56] <vish> nigelb: dont make me come and kick ya!
[16:57] <pedro_> vish, you're up to do it then? ;-)
[16:57] <pedro_> vish, you can kick nigelb after the session :-P
[16:57] <nigelb> Only if you think you can't do it again ;)
[16:58] <cjohnston> what are we convincing
[16:58] <vish> pedro_: hmm , i cant really type fast or ans Q very qucik :(
[16:58] <vish> quick*
[16:58] <nigelb> cjohnston: we're convincing vish to take the using launchpad class for uud
[16:58] <vish> and have typos , like that :/
[16:58] <cjohnston> vish: write it up before hand
[16:58] <nigelb> vish: protip - keep everything written before hand
[16:58] <cjohnston> then paste it in
[16:58] <pedro_> vish, you can always use the old copy & paste method :-)
[16:59] <cjohnston> lunch time
[16:59] <pedro_> vish, and someone else can help you to moderate the questions as well
[16:59] <vish> nigelb: you a^^&* h#
[16:59] <pedro_> see you can type fast :-P
[16:59]  * vish doesnt like denying pedro_ but has to decline this time :(
[17:00] <pedro_> :-(
[17:00] <vish> pedro_: sorry :s
[17:34] <thekorn> nigelb, when is the next uud?
[17:46] <xelister> oh my god I'm so irritated at Ubuntu Lucid right now... spent many hours on getting kmail to work.. fixed like 2 problems there (and reproted 1 genuine new bug)
[17:46] <xelister> and now again kmail doesnt work
[17:46] <xelister> (and when it did worked it worked badly, with address auto-completion bugs)
[17:47] <xelister> so there where like.. 3 bugs in kmail, which I personally hit and they block kmail usage fully
[17:57] <pedro_> Folks: QA Meeting in ~3 minutes at #ubuntu-meeting
[18:09] <PrototypeX29A> hey
[19:17] <yofel> what should I file a bug against if display brightness can't be changed? The hotkeys work and /proc/acpi/video/VID1/LCD0/brightness is properly set, it's just that nothing happens. Kernel or video driver?
[19:29] <arand> yofel: I *think* kernel, acpi-related is the correct domain (but they did talk about those things in the X-as-regular-user-sessions I watched from UDS, so I guess I might be wrong...)
[19:39] <yofel> I'll file it against the kernel, someone can reassign it later
[19:42] <charlie-tca> According to this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting , it is probably gnome-power-manager
[19:43] <yofel> I'm using KDE
[19:44] <charlie-tca> hmmm,
[19:44] <charlie-tca> I guess that is not it, then, huh?
[19:44] <yofel> and using /proc should work regardless of DE
[20:00] <elopio> pedro_: I'm available now.
[20:00] <elopio> just let me know when you are ready.
[20:09] <pedro_> elopio, awesome, sorry i was having lunch ;-)
[20:14] <dgtombs> hey all, could someone set <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/376793> to Triaged? it's been mainline tested and works in mainline, doesn't work in ubuntu
[20:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 376793 in linux (Fedora) (and 2 other projects) "HP 2140 Lid Close Not Detected (affects: 16) (heat: 110)" [Unknown,Unknown]
[20:19] <charlie-tca> dgtombs: done
[20:20] <dgtombs> thanks
[21:05] <vish> hrm , seems we are have a bug day clash! kernel and compiz are both on the same day :S
[21:06] <vish> JFo , pedro_  are gonna slug it out ;p
[21:07] <JFo> hi vish, no problem, the Kernel days are scheduled by me
[21:07] <JFo> so I don't generally check to see what is going on the calendar
[21:07] <pedro_> there's enough bugs for all of us :-)
[21:07] <JFo> pedro_, true :-/
[21:07] <JFo> that and more
[21:07] <vish> aw , no death match , my money was on JFo  ;)
[21:08] <JFo> hah, nah pedro_ is my friend
[21:08]  * micahg shudders at the idea of triaging either set of bugs
[21:08] <JFo> we'd never slug it out :)
[21:08] <bencrisford> micahg: Earlier genux asked me to tell you he wouldnt be able to go through a bug with you at 13:00 UTC which was scheduled?  I didn't see you online around that time hence why I am only just telling you, sorry!
[21:08] <pedro_> JFo, didn't you scheduled the kernel bug days on Tuesday ?
[21:08] <bencrisford> :)
[21:08] <micahg> bencrisford: np, overslept :)
[21:08] <JFo> pedro_, normally yes
[21:08] <bencrisford> micahg: I wouldnt worry, launchpad was in read only mode anyway :)
[21:09] <JFo> but I had to pass on that due to holidays
[21:09] <pedro_> JFo, so tomorrow is just an exception?
[21:09] <micahg> bencrisford: oh, right
[21:09] <JFo> yeah
[21:09] <pedro_> JFo, ah ok i see :-)
[21:09] <JFo> the normal day will be Tuesdays :)
[21:09] <JFo> sorry for the trouble :)
[21:09] <pedro_> JFo, just wondering because the KDE folks are trying to schedule their bug days on Mondays
[21:09] <pedro_> no worries ;-)
[21:09] <pedro_> just wanted to see which days are still available
[21:10] <JFo> yep, Tuesdays are alll miiiiinde ;-)
[21:10] <JFo> err mine that is
[21:10] <micahg> pedro_: I'd like to do a Firefox bug day later this summer once I revamp the Wiki docs on how to triage
[21:11] <vish> JFo: now that we have your attention , could you update your time available for mentoring: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors , no need to worry about the ordering
[21:11] <JFo> mentoring?
[21:11] <pedro_> micahg, summer? that's like at the end of the year here!
[21:12] <micahg> pedro_: sorry, forgot about the bottom half of the world ;)
[21:12] <micahg> pedro_: late july, early august
[21:12] <vish> JFo: ogasawara seems to have mentioned you were taking over for kernel bugs
[21:12] <pedro_> JFo, the bugsquad mentoring program, leann suggest me to put your name there instead since you're the one in charge of the kernel now ;-)
[21:12] <pedro_> JFo, mentoring program = free contributors for kernel bugs triage
[21:12] <JFo> ah
[21:12] <JFo> cool
[21:12] <vish> yay
[21:14] <pedro_> micahg, hehe , that'd be great!, could you add it to the planning page ?
[21:14] <micahg> pedro_: link?
[21:14] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning <- micahg
[21:14] <pedro_> no need to put the "exact" date for now though
[21:16] <micahg> pedro_: done
[21:16] <pedro_> micahg, thanks!
[21:17] <JFo> vish / pedro_ page is updated
[21:17] <vish> JFo: thanks
[21:17] <JFo> np :)
[21:17] <micahg> pedoshould bugsquad be subscribed to UbuntuBugDay pages?
[21:17] <micahg> pedro_: ^^
[21:18] <pedro_> JFo, thank you!
[21:18] <JFo> my pleasure :)
[21:18] <pedro_> micahg, ugh to some maybe, but not to all the UbuntuBugDay/* since lot of changes are coming during bug days
[21:19] <micahg> pedro_: k, hggdh can set that up for whichever pages you think should be subscribed
[21:19] <pedro_> hggdh, may you subscribe the bugsquad there?
[21:20] <pedro_> hggdh, UbuntuBugDay, UbuntuBugDay/Planning and UbuntuBugDay/Organizing would be nice to have the bugsquad subscribed , please ;-)
[21:20] <pedro_> omg banshee is so slow for doing searches...
[21:21] <hggdh> pedro_, micahg K, looking into it
[21:23] <vish> thekorn: hi ,  the "by day european time" , would be 09:00 - 21:00 UTC or.. any specific time?
[21:24] <vish> *time available for mentoring: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[21:24] <pedro_> thank you hggdh!
[21:25] <hggdh> pedro_: UbuntuBugDay/* instead of ./Planning and ./Organising is OK?
[21:26] <pedro_> hggdh, the other way around
[21:26] <micahg> hggdh: otherwise we get all the bugday individual updates
[21:26] <hggdh> k
[21:27] <hggdh> done
[21:28] <pedro_> hggdh, Muito obrigado!
[21:29] <charlie-tca> pedro_: brain dump here! Are we supposed to set a time limit on mentees when approving them?
[21:31] <pedro_> charlie-tca, i'm approving them with a 3 months limit, does that sounds ok to you or it's too short/long ?
[21:31] <pedro_> hggdh, vish ^
[21:32] <charlie-tca> Sounds good to me. I will do that
[21:32] <vish> yup , sounds good
[21:32] <pedro_> charlie-tca, seems we can configure that to be the default on the launchpad team page, i'll look to it
[21:33] <charlie-tca> Great! I have appoved a few in this week, just trying to catch the new ones as they sign up
[21:34] <hggdh> sounds good
[21:35] <hggdh> pedro_: de nada
[21:35] <hggdh> now, if I can only stop the wiki from logging me in automagically :-(
[21:36] <micahg> hggdh: log out?
[21:36] <hggdh> micahg: yes, but when you log back in, it goes straight into the user you were logged in under (all hail OpenId), and does not allow me to specify the user
[21:37] <vish> crimsun: maco: could you update/add your time to the mentors wiki : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[21:37] <vish> maco: is desperadopaul still being mentored? there seems to be no lp activity from the user
[21:38] <maco> vish: no. i was asked to be his mentor but he never sent me any questions or anything, just kinda disappeared
[21:39] <vish> maco: ok , we can remove him for now.. and assign new mentees soonish
[21:39] <maco> ok
[21:53] <arand> I would consider Bug #574287 quite serious, is it correctly reported against tasksel? Is there any more steps that I could take towards polishing the report?
[21:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 574287 in tasksel (Ubuntu) "tasksel uninstalled my system! (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574287
[22:04] <thekorn> vish, hey, yes, that's ok
[22:04] <vish> thekorn: ok , so i'll just add it as 09:00 -21:00 , wil be easier to keep track , thnks :)
[22:05] <thekorn> great, thank you
[22:49] <suprengr> MOTD
[23:07] <hggdh> arand: I agree...
[23:07] <arand> hggdh: So tasksel is at least correct?
[23:09] <hggdh> arand: sounds like it. You might try to run 'sudo tasksel --test remove <whatever>', and add the output in the bug
[23:09] <arand> hggdh: Should I try to take it upstream? (I tried briefly on debian before but I did not see the issue, so it may be related to the fact that we've got the ubuntu-desktop task installed by default... maybe)
[23:10] <hggdh> arand: if you tried on a pure Debian, add a comment stating it, and what Debian version (and tasksel version) you were running
[23:10] <hggdh> this is good data
[23:10] <hggdh> arand: and *may* pin it to an Ubuntu-specific change
[23:13] <arand> hggdh: The --test does not tell much, only: "debconf-apt-progress -- apt-get -q -y install libwrap0- tcpd- openssh-server."
[23:17] <hggdh> arand: this is for a tasksel remove?
[23:17] <arand> Still if run without --test. it did this: http://pastebin.com/UUWQvkBD
[23:18] <arand> hggdh: ↑ This was for "sudo tasksel remove openssh-server" on a ubuntu-desktop where I previously had installed openssh-server
[23:19] <hggdh> arand: please add this (and the pastebin output to the bug. It is clear, then... ;-)
[23:20] <arand> hggdh: but does this indicate the bug in apt, rather?
[23:21] <hggdh> arand: it *might*. Or, perhaps, dpkg. I do not know the internals of tasksel, but I would expect it to use either one
[23:21] <hggdh> but, OTOH, if you run 'sudo apt-get remove openssh-server', only openssh-server gets removed
[23:25] <arand> hggdh: Yes, but if you run apt-get remove openssh-server^   (with caret) it uses tasks, and goes horribly wrong as well, iirc
[23:26] <hggdh> hum
[23:27] <hggdh> arand: you might add a task for apt, then. I do not know, though, if tasksel and apt use the same package sets
[23:51] <zus> good evening everyone
[23:51] <BUGabundo> zus: o/
[23:52] <BUGabundo> what can we do for you tonight?
[23:52] <zus> i was saying hello,
[23:54] <BUGabundo> then a top of the evening for you too zus
[23:55]  * zus nods
[23:55] <zus> aye thank you