| rickspencer3 | typo, either | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| TheMuso | lol | 00:00 |
| TheMuso | woki, I like it. | 00:00 |
| TheMuso | Not far off a wookie. | 00:00 |
| RAOF | “Please update the wookie”. Got a ring to it. | 00:01 |
| lifeless | rrrroar | 00:01 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, TheMuso, robert_ancell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-06-01 | 00:04 |
| rickspencer3 | go ahead and read it over | 00:04 |
| * TheMuso reads the wookie... um I mean wiki page. :) | 00:05 | |
| rickspencer3 | and robert_ancell in case you forgot your activity report, not would be a good time | 00:05 |
| * TheMuso can't stop laughing. | 00:05 | |
| rickspencer3 | heh | 00:05 |
| TheMuso | not much there. | 00:06 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, right, it was a 20 minute meeting | 00:06 |
| * TheMuso is done | 00:07 | |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, robert_ancell ? | 00:08 |
| robert_ancell | done | 00:08 |
| RAOF | Done. | 00:08 |
| RAOF | My connectivity seems less than wonderful. Sorry if I lag behind. | 00:09 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, yeah, I'm getting stalled connections too | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | ok, so real quick from the meeting | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | key thing is that we need to start DONEing or POSTPONEDing work items | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | for A2 | 00:10 |
| rickspencer3 | if you have some done, please mark them as such | 00:11 |
| rickspencer3 | questions? | 00:11 |
| TheMuso | No | 00:11 |
| RAOF | None. | 00:11 |
| * rickspencer3 whip cracking noises | 00:11 | |
| rickspencer3 | ok, there was one thing not on the agenda that I thought would be useful to bring up here | 00:11 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, so did I read that dchen has really and truly stopped maintain audio for Ubuntu? | 00:12 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: His involvement will decrease once this extra work that he is doing starts. Don't know any more than that myself. | 00:12 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, so we need to plan to fill that gap, right? | 00:13 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: Right, and such a plan was started at UDS. | 00:13 |
| rickspencer3 | I see | 00:13 |
| rickspencer3 | is there a link or such? | 00:13 |
| rickspencer3 | do you have the resources that you need? | 00:14 |
| rickspencer3 | etc... | 00:14 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: In the form of Daniel having a session with a few people including myself to do a brain dump of common things that need to be done in terms of getting hda hardware to work. | 00:14 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, and are you planning to do that work? | 00:14 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: resources wise, I really can't say at this point, depends on how many people from the above referred session end up jumping abord to help. I have received one request already to help out, which is good | 00:14 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: Where I can, and feel comfortable doing so, yes. | 00:15 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 00:15 |
| rickspencer3 | I'd feel better if I knew that there was one person on point to make sure that audio keeps getting better | 00:15 |
| TheMuso | Userspace wise, I am committed to doing that. Kernel wise, not sure. | 00:16 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | ok, that makes sense | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll ask the kernel team who is on point there | 00:17 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, TheMuso, robert_ancell any other business? | 00:17 |
| TheMuso | Nope. | 00:17 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: Brad Figg has been doing audio related stuff from the kernel team | 00:17 |
| RAOF | No other business here. | 00:18 |
| robert_ancell | no | 00:18 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, ack on bjf, but I'm not sure if he's still on point for desktop in 10.10 | 00:18 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: Gotcha. | 00:18 |
| * rickspencer3 taps gavel | 00:19 | |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, thought you might be interested that jono is starting to pull together content for developer.ubuntu.com | 00:19 |
| rickspencer3 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperStackTour | 00:19 |
| bjf | rickspencer3, TheMuso, still on point, however, i'm also charged with doing SRU work this cycle | 00:19 |
| rickspencer3 | bjf, ack | 00:20 |
| TheMuso | bjf: Ok | 00:20 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3, oh, cool. | 00:20 |
| rickspencer3 | I think jono asked for a drupal instance at developer.ubuntu.com | 00:21 |
| rickspencer3 | doesn't seem to be there yet | 00:21 |
| jono | rickspencer3, it will be Wordpress | 00:21 |
| jono | currently talking it over with IS | 00:21 |
| rickspencer3 | Wordpress then | 00:21 |
| rickspencer3 | meh | 00:21 |
| robert_ancell | bratsche, you awake? | 00:23 |
| bratsche | robert_ancell, yeah | 00:31 |
| robert_ancell | bug 584287, happy to apply and take it upstream but why is the patch correct? | 00:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 584287 in metacity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unexpected X error (BadDrawable) causing metacity to abort in maverick (affects: 8) (dups: 1) (heat: 64)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584287 | 00:33 |
| robert_ancell | bratsche, ^ | 00:33 |
| bratsche | robert_ancell: It's expecting an RGB colormap, and gdk_screen_get_default_colormap() isn't guaranteed to return that. It should use get_rgb_colormap() or get_system_colormap(). | 00:34 |
| robert_ancell | bratsche, ok, thanks | 00:34 |
| robert_ancell | the documentation on what get_system and get_default does is very basic | 00:35 |
| bratsche | robert_ancell: This will not have any negative effect even without the rgba/csd patches applied to gtk+. | 00:35 |
| bratsche | robert_ancell: Yeah.. gtk+ right now does return an rgb colormap normally with get_default_colormap(), although it's possible to change that at runtime. But with the csd/rgba patch I'm pushing into gtk+ it will return an rgba colormap by default. | 00:36 |
| robert_ancell | bratsche, so what is the difference between get_rgb and get_system? Does get_rgb convert the system colormap if it is not in rgb? | 00:36 |
| bratsche | robert_ancell: To be honest, I'm not sure of the practical difference between them. Maybe we should use get_rgb_colormap().. get_system_colormap() will return whatever Xorg is configured to. | 00:37 |
| bratsche | To change the colormap to rgba by default we don't want to do this at the Xorg level though (which would then require no change in gtk+) because some apps probably erroneously try to draw black with 000. | 00:39 |
| bratsche | That's the reason for modifying it from the toolkit level. | 00:39 |
| bratsche | robert_ancell: Actually, I just confirmed in the gtk+ patch.. you should use gdk_screen_get_system_colormap() and not get_rgb_colormap(). | 00:41 |
| bratsche | That's what gtk+ was setting the default colormap to before. | 00:41 |
| bratsche | robert_ancell: And also, thanks very much for taking care of this! | 00:42 |
| robert_ancell | bratsche, np | 00:42 |
| RAOF | Owch. Shotwell really chews through memory when importing. | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I thought somebody (rickspencer maybe) was saying that it hardly used any | 01:19 |
| RAOF | Well, it was consuming 1.2GiB physical here and I wanted my system back. | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | shesh, that's a lot | 01:22 |
| lifeless | RAOF: wheee | 01:22 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 01:22 |
| rickspencer3 | LaserJock, I have no idea how much it uses when importing | 01:22 |
| RAOF | On the plus side, it now has minimal support for RAW formats. | 01:23 |
| rickspencer3 | sounds like basically "whatever you've got" | 01:23 |
| rickspencer3 | RAOF, is it worth logging a bug on that? | 01:23 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 01:23 |
| RAOF | At least, as long as it's reproducible. I'll give it another whirl. | 01:24 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| robert_ancell | RAOF, bug 510426 - do you have any idea which binary package the Everything and GIMarshallingTests modules should go? I added them to the glib packages, after reading your bug report don't know if they should go into the -dev package | 04:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 510426 in gobject-introspection (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Everything-1.0.typelib not built in libgirepository1.0-dev (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510426 | 04:26 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, can you sponsor metacity for me? | 04:28 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Sure. Does it have a fix that we need for alpha 1? | 04:28 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, I think so, it's a crasher due to interaction with CSD, and the patch is very simple (and already been tested) | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | ah ok. | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | will go ahead and take care of it. | 04:29 |
| robert_ancell | it's in bzr | 04:30 |
| TheMuso | yep gotcha | 04:30 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: uploaded | 04:48 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, thanks | 04:51 |
| robert_ancell | bratsche, ^^ | 04:51 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: I'd probably stick it in the -dev package, as per patch on the linked Debian bug. Everything is only used in testsuites AFAICT, so -dev makes sense there. Less certain about GIMarshallingTests, but the same logic probably applies. | 05:16 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, there is a versioning issue putting libraries in -dev though | 05:17 |
| RAOF | I don't quite see how - if they're only used in testsuites, then they're basically only really used at build time, and we don't version the -dev package. | 05:18 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, yeah, I guess we need to know if they're only used for testsuites (probably). My gut feel is they'll disappear once GI stabilises | 05:20 |
| RAOF | Well, they're obviously not used for anything but testsuites in the archive at the moment :) | 05:21 |
| robert_ancell | pygi is the only thing I know of :) but that's not in the archive yet | 05:22 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:23 |
| ccheney | ugh OOo 3.2.1 rules merge is particularly ugly, have to be careful not to screw it up :-\ | 05:42 |
| jono | ccheney, good luck! | 05:43 |
| BalSak | hi guys. does anyone know how to address ubuntu's frequent lock-up's? | 05:47 |
| ccheney | bzr merge is not my friend, heh | 05:47 |
| ccheney | BalSak: do a memory test | 05:48 |
| BalSak | ...not only FireFox (although it happens most frequently in FF, since it's the single app I use the most) | 05:48 |
| ccheney | BalSak: if its frequently hanging and not coming back its probably hardware | 05:48 |
| BalSak | ccheney: memtest @ boot? will do, but it happens on many of my systems | 05:48 |
| ccheney | BalSak: oh hmm | 05:49 |
| BalSak | ccheney: it's only single apps that hang (& grey out), and then come back after a stretch. quite random | 05:49 |
| BalSak | very frustrating | 05:49 |
| ccheney | BalSak: hmm maybe ask in the user channel or forum with details about your system | 05:49 |
| BalSak | #ubuntu ? | 05:50 |
| BalSak | loads of noise & this seems the appropriate channel to deal with desktop-related issues... | 05:51 |
| TheMuso | This channel is used for desktop development. | 05:54 |
| BalSak | dev. ok. thnx | 06:01 |
| * ccheney gone to bed, will fight with bzr merge in the morning | 06:03 | |
| dupondje | robert_ancell: thx for the patch of metacity :) | 06:30 |
| robert_ancell | dupondje, np | 06:32 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| didrocks | good morning | 08:12 |
| didrocks | RAOF: hey, my computer is a world of pain this morning, is there a way to install the nvidia blob driver on maverick? | 08:13 |
| RAOF | didrocks: The one from jockey worked last time I checked. | 08:14 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 08:14 |
| didrocks | RAOF: wasn't the case two weeks ago. I'm trying it now (current?) | 08:15 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen pitti | 08:16 |
| didrocks | sweet, jockey list me anything anymore (but well, as I had to install the nvidia driver manually, can be related) | 08:16 |
| RAOF | Oh! I know what your problem is going to be - metacity has decided to die, right? | 08:17 |
| didrocks | RAOF: right, no more metacity because of csd/rgba I guess (and no compiz/mutter as no more GL with my last update). | 08:18 |
| didrocks | just a tty with weechat ;) | 08:20 |
| didrocks | but I don't see how this can influence jockey-gtk to not show the nvidia driver | 08:20 |
| pitti | didrocks: is that a fresh install? | 08:20 |
| pitti | didrocks: also, is nvidia-current-modaliases installed? | 08:20 |
| didrocks | pitti: definitively not a fresh install at all :) | 08:22 |
| didrocks | pitti: let me check | 08:23 |
| didrocks | pitti: not installed, let me try this | 08:24 |
| pitti | didrocks: hm, it's installed by default | 08:24 |
| seb128 | hello didrocks pitti | 08:25 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, RAOF: I just uploaded a fix for metacity | 08:25 |
| didrocks | pitti: I guess a dist-upgrade can have broken it, but as I wasn't able to launch | 08:25 |
| didrocks | s/launch/use the nvidia integrated driver 2 weeks before, can be related to that | 08:25 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:26 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: sweet! I'll try as soon as I get it | 08:26 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, how are you? | 08:28 |
| pitti | well enough :) we just got the first maverick alpha-1 desktop images | 08:28 |
| didrocks | rebooting, brb | 08:28 |
| pitti | now with non-crashing kernel :) | 08:28 |
| pitti | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20100602.2/ | 08:28 |
| pitti | happy testing | 08:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, you decided that sleep was overrated it seems? ;-) | 08:28 |
| pitti | ah, I'm getting used to 6 AM :) | 08:29 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, do you have any thoughts on gobject-introspection? (see email) | 08:29 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, let me check emails | 08:29 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: your metacity fix works, thanks :) | 08:32 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, i just pushed the patch :) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, the changes you did are fine with me for upload | 08:33 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, for jockey-gtk, still listing anything, but again, my install is crap from karmic. So, I think it's a local issue and will reinstall with the alpha1 image this week-end | 08:33 |
| pitti | didrocks: we just got fresh alpha-1 desktop images, feel free to use those :) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, will do it once the "morning tasks" are done :) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, did you get pygi working with those? | 08:34 |
| RAOF | for my part, it seems like the nvidia-current drivers work fine. | 08:34 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, RAOF suggested they should be in -dev (and that is what the Debian bug is proposing) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, do we need pygobject rebuilt with it? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ok, can do that | 08:34 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, only if we want pygobject to use pygi as a backend (I believe) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes I can confirm the hang is due to udisks, see stacktrace on the bug report | 08:34 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, thanks | 08:35 |
| robert_ancell | I got a PyGI GTK+ demo app working, doesn't need the pygobject recompile | 08:35 |
| seb128 | oh, nice | 08:35 |
| seb128 | is there good documentation? | 08:35 |
| didrocks | RAOF: can be more than possible, but as I had to install during the lucid dev cycle (before alpha3 I guess) and at the beginning of this cycle manually the nvidia one, I don't trust at all my setup :) | 08:35 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, nope, I just guessed and used what I knew from the C API. I'm going to blog a little demo to get people started when it hits maverick | 08:35 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:36 |
| seb128 | you consider it ready for sponsoring? | 08:36 |
| seb128 | could you push to a non junk location if that's the case? | 08:36 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I'm just changing it from pygi1 to pygi0, will push | 08:37 |
| robert_ancell | (I think that's the correct name right? | 08:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, gnome-session starts without issue it's just gnome-panel and nautilus hanging | 08:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, "just" which leads you on an empty background | 08:37 |
| seb128 | I can switch workspaces though | 08:37 |
| seb128 | the login sound is played as well | 08:37 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I didn't check the packaging yet so I can't tell | 08:37 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, let me check something in udisks | 08:39 |
| pitti | seb128: for now, please feel free to reassign to udisks | 08:39 |
| pitti | (still need to fiddle release bits in parallel) | 08:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, sorry for the lag to provide infos on the bug but I don't have the box at home so not access to it during the day | 08:44 |
| pitti | seb128: np | 08:44 |
| seb128 | I often can access it in evenings though | 08:44 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, no, the packaging needs some work. I'll do it tomorrow. gtg | 08:45 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, if you could get gobject-introspection done that would speed it up, thanks! | 08:46 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ok, see you | 08:46 |
| seb128 | will do | 08:46 |
| RAOF | Hm. Who's able to view bug #585871 , and why can't I? | 08:47 |
| ubot2 | RAOF: Bug 585871 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/585871 is private | 08:47 |
| seb128 | RAOF, I can't | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, if jdong ack a sru bug is some ubuntu-archive members supposed to accept it still? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | bug #553241 | 08:50 |
| pitti | seb128: they can, yes | 08:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 553241 in papyon (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "No contacts displayed in Empathy, still able to chat (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553241 | 08:50 |
| seb128 | bug #273294 | 08:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 273294 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 6 other projects) "Rhythmbox can not use smb:// as library location (affects: 28) (dups: 8) (heat: 230)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273294 | 08:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, he acked those | 08:51 |
| pitti | RAOF: I can't as either pitti or apport, sorry | 08:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, if you could run your sru-accept on those or whatever script you use which does the stock comment etc | 08:51 |
| pitti | seb128: can do | 08:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 08:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, if you teach me what you do I can do that myself next time ;-) | 08:51 |
| pitti | seb128: let's | 08:52 |
| seb128 | or should I let that to the sru team? | 08:52 |
| pitti | first, open https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1 | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: no, it's fine for you to do | 08:52 |
| pitti | rhythmbox is in there | 08:52 |
| pitti | 2. check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: is there an RB already in -proposed? | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: I give instructions, you run them? | 08:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 08:53 |
| seb128 | I've papyon open right now so doing that one first | 08:53 |
| pitti | ok, fine | 08:53 |
| pitti | seb128: make sure your ubuntu-archive-tools checkout is up to date, I updated queuediff yesterday | 08:54 |
| pitti | to work with the shiny new queue diffs generated by LP | 08:54 |
| pitti | seb128: (tell me whey you updated branch and checked pending-sru for already existing SRUs for those packages) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm checking something, the diff on the queue seems weird | 08:56 |
| pitti | seb128: that'd be the next step actually :) | 08:56 |
| pitti | queuediff -b papyon |less | 08:56 |
| pitti | that'll | 08:56 |
| pitti | - find the papyon upload in lucid-proposed | 08:56 |
| pitti | - parse out the bugs and open them in the browser | 08:56 |
| pitti | - show the uploaded debdiff to stdout | 08:56 |
| pitti | you need to check debdiff and bugs for sanity | 08:57 |
| pitti | bugs need to have a lucid task and a reasonable description | 08:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok sorry, so I've an updated checkout, trying that | 08:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok so I reviewed the diff using queuediff, checked pending-sru | 08:59 |
| * mvo hugs slomo for the #584114 upload | 08:59 | |
| seb128 | there is no papyon in the current proposed and the diff is correct | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: queuediff will print an appropriate sru-accept command | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: so if everything is alright, first accept the upload from the queue | 08:59 |
| * desrt hugs mvo for no reason at all | 08:59 | |
| pitti | seb128: and if that worked, run the sru-accept command | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: that's it | 09:00 |
| * mvo hugs desrt back because he is desrt | 09:00 | |
| * pitti hugs desrt and mvo for rocking | 09:00 | |
| * mvo wonders if bzr merge should have a alias "bzr hug" | 09:00 | |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, easy, thanks | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: queuediff and sru-accept.py handle all the boring details :) | 09:00 |
| desrt | pitti: :) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, fail | 09:01 |
| mvo | pitti: heh :) hugfest! | 09:01 |
| seb128 | " Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. " | 09:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ I get that when I tried to accept something, can you try on rhythmbox if it works for you? | 09:01 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, LP sometimes does that for packages you uploaded yourself or so | 09:01 |
| seb128 | bah | 09:01 |
| pitti | seb128: you can use q -s lucid-proposed -Q unapproved accept | 09:02 |
| pitti | seb128: rb accepted | 09:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok thanks | 09:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you sru-accept it as well? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | I will do papyon sshing the box | 09:02 |
| pitti | seb128: you don't have the sru-accept command? | 09:04 |
| pitti | I didn't run queuediff | 09:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, will do it | 09:04 |
| pitti | seb128: if not, what's the bug number? (.changes is already gone) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, I've access but since you accepted it I figured you maybe wanted to run it as well | 09:04 |
| pitti | seb128: nah, that's fine | 09:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, 273294 | 09:04 |
| seb128 | it's running for papyon right now | 09:05 |
| mvo | pitti: have you seen a bt like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/443208/ in apport? is that a known issue? | 09:05 |
| pitti | just run it yourself, that's fine | 09:05 |
| pitti | seb128: you can run them in parallel, too | 09:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok thanks | 09:05 |
| seb128 | that worked \o/ | 09:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 09:05 |
| pitti | mvo: hm, it should try both the one and two arg form | 09:05 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 09:06 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 09:06 | |
| pitti | mvo: what did you select? | 09:06 |
| mvo | pitti: happens on a lucid system, I have not tried to reproduce yet. he selected "don't know" | 09:06 |
| mvo | pitti: just got a mail from a friend of mine about problems with umounting usb-devices | 09:06 |
| pitti | aah | 09:07 |
| pitti | mvo: so, that happens if the linux package hook errors with a genuine TypeError exception | 09:07 |
| mvo | pitti: it may well be some package that he has installed that keep it busy, so the problem itself may not be a real bug as such (but I'm not sure yet) | 09:07 |
| pitti | mvo: it just looks confusing | 09:07 |
| mvo | aha, so its not a error at all? | 09:07 |
| pitti | mvo: well, it's a bug in the source_linux.py hook | 09:07 |
| mvo | aha | 09:08 |
| pitti | mvo: I fixed one instance of that in 1.13.2-0ubuntu1 | 09:08 |
| pitti | but that's way before lucid | 09:08 |
| pitti | mvo: running ubuntu-bug linux might help | 09:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, so I'm a bit hesitant what to do with bug #579281 | 09:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 579281 in telepathy-butterfly (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "http method for msn protocoll does not work when behind a proxy (affects: 2) (heat: 20)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/579281 | 09:08 |
| mvo | thanks pitti | 09:08 |
| pitti | mvo: i. e. help to see the real exception | 09:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, I've the feeling I will not get a verification-done on it | 09:09 |
| * mvo tries to reproduce | 09:09 | |
| seb128 | pitti, but the update is mainly no change if you don't install python-proxy from universe | 09:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, and I did it to allow people who need to proxy to get it and to enable updates to newer versions which have fixes as well | 09:10 |
| pitti | seb128: can we at least test that MSN still works without a proxy? | 09:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, would that be enough for you? | 09:10 |
| pitti | my biggest concern is about regressions | 09:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will try to get some acks that it doesn't break anything | 09:10 |
| pitti | if the bug isn't fixed, or fully fixed, we can do another SRU | 09:10 |
| seb128 | ok good | 09:10 |
| seb128 | danke | 09:10 |
| pitti | but we mustn't break existing working stuff | 09:10 |
| seb128 | right, agreed | 09:10 |
| seb128 | as said I doubt it breaks anything but it seems like I will not get a verification-done for the bug I picked to list in the changelog | 09:11 |
| seb128 | I will get some people to ack it's still working | 09:11 |
| pitti | thanks | 09:11 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, I see one open() call in udisks-daemon which could potentially be responsible for this | 09:59 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll try a patch and upload it to a PPA for testing | 09:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I can test after work today | 10:00 |
| seb128 | I guess other users can test a ppa version as well on this bug | 10:00 |
| pitti | right | 10:01 |
| pitti | seb128: argh, I messed up the retracer chroots last time, fixing | 10:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, reinstalled maverick and seems fine. I saw that my modification on the notify script in weechat we spoke about at UDS has been broken by subsequent changes, making "smart_notification" (which is off by default) not working anymore, hence the fact you aren't spammed with notification in a pv. | 11:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: maverick> good to hear, thanks | 11:01 |
| pitti | didrocks: smart notification> right, I don't seem to get _any_ notification for PMs right now | 11:01 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, someone made an upstream change and broke it | 11:02 |
| pitti | seb128: yay, got a first positive test result for my PPA udisk for bug 539515 \o/ | 11:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 539515 in udisks (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "probing a non-existing floppy causes long boot delays (affects: 70) (dups: 13) (heat: 424)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539515 | 11:03 |
| ayan | brb | 11:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah you! | 11:04 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | slomo, hi | 11:19 |
| seb128 | slomo, do you think you could get http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550478 fixed in debian? | 11:19 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 550478 in gobject-introspection "gobject-introspection: Please include the Everything-1.0 typelib" [Minor,Open] | 11:19 |
| pitti | didrocks: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-live/20100602.3/ ready for testing, if you want to give it a spin | 11:23 |
| * pitti rsyncs | 11:23 | |
| pitti | didrocks: it's quite a bit bigger than lucid, had to chop off some langpacks | 11:25 |
| pitti | didrocks: when I boot the current maverick netbook in kvm, I get a GNOME desktop?!? | 11:29 |
| pitti | shouldn't I get a 2D launcher? | 11:29 |
| * pitti tries on real iron | 11:29 | |
| BUGabundo_remote | kenvandine: can I nag I a bit, about douchdb? | 11:32 |
| pitti | BUGabundo_remote: just FYI, he's currently asleep (western US time zone) | 11:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | thanks pitti | 11:34 |
| BUGabundo_remote | anyone else working in the desktop couch db? | 11:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | broken in maverick, can't find any dupes for my bug | 11:35 |
| pitti | the online services folks, but they are mostly in south america, too | 11:35 |
| BUGabundo_remote | ehe | 11:35 |
| pitti | BUGabundo_remote: rodrigo_ might know | 11:36 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, what's broken? | 11:36 |
| seb128 | slomo, see lp:~robert-ancell/gobject-introspection/add-everything-and-gimarshalling-tests which has the changes | 11:37 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, works (2D launcher) with -vga vmware | 11:37 |
| BUGabundo_remote | rodrigo_: hi. let me get the bug id | 11:38 |
| BUGabundo_remote | rodrigo_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/588478 | 11:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588478 in couchdb (Ubuntu) "RuntimeError: Can not find port of couchdb. (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:39 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, is desktopcouch-service running? | 11:40 |
| BUGabundo_remote | rodrigo_: $ psx couch | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/443258/ | 11:41 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, if not, move the bug to desktopcouch project | 11:41 |
| rodrigo_ | it seems you have 2 instances running | 11:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | should I kill it | 11:42 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, killall -9 beam.smp and try again | 11:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | and then restart gwibber | 11:42 |
| rodrigo_ | and yeah, desktopcouch-service is not running, so gwibber is failing to get the port | 11:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | starting gwibber-service -d -o | 11:43 |
| BUGabundo_remote | and it dies | 11:43 |
| BUGabundo_remote | I see some instances of desktop-couch again | 11:43 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, but not desktopcouch-service, right? | 11:43 |
| rodrigo_ | that's the service giving the port via dbus, which is what gwibber is trying to do | 11:44 |
| BUGabundo_remote | rodrigo_: $ psx desktopcouch-service | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/443261/ | 11:44 |
| BUGabundo_remote | its there | 11:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'll have a look (sorry, in the middle of fighting reinstalling all my dev tools :)) | 11:44 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, it was there before, right? Does gwibber work now? | 11:45 |
| didrocks | pitti: normally, boot in KVM -> launch netbook-launcher -> fallback on n-l-efl | 11:45 |
| BUGabundo_remote | RuntimeError: Unable to find listening port | 11:46 |
| BUGabundo_remote | rodrigo_: nope :( | 11:46 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, move the bug to desktopcouch, so that chad sees it | 11:46 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, do you have d-feet installed? | 11:46 |
| rodrigo_ | if so, go to the Session bus tab and look for org.desktopcouch.CouchDB service | 11:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes, it does work indeed, also 3D launcher on real iron | 11:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: sorry for the noise | 11:47 |
| rodrigo_ | if it's there, try running the getPort method from d-feet | 11:47 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Installed: (none) | 11:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: I do have something to complain, though: favourites are empty in both 2d and 3d; known or want me to file a bug? | 11:47 |
| * BUGabundo_remote installs | 11:48 | |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, (just double click on the method's name in the right-hand list, and click Execute on the dialog that shows up) | 11:48 |
| BUGabundo_remote | rodrigo_: should I move the bug,. or add desktopcouch ? | 11:48 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, move it, it's either gwibber or desktopcouch | 11:49 |
| BUGabundo_remote | done | 11:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: urgh, that's weird. Not sure if this is really important as post alpha1, we will transition to unity which have other keys. What do you think? | 11:50 |
| didrocks | (sync in progress, will test afterwards) | 11:50 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, I see | 11:50 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'll just release-note it them | 11:50 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, I can have a quick look but if it's the only issue, it doesn't worth a respin IMHO | 11:50 |
| pitti | didrocks: no, don't worry | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo_remote | rodrigo_: d-feed doesn't show org.desktopcouch.CouchDB | 11:51 |
| pitti | didrocks: I was only asking for the purposes of documenting | 11:51 |
| pitti | didrocks: this is that <---------------------> far away from being RC for alpha-1 :) | 11:51 |
| rodrigo_ | BUGabundo_remote, ok, then it's desktopcouch, so move the bug to it | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo_remote | already did | 11:51 |
| didrocks | pitti: sure :) | 11:52 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks for the notice, I'll still have a look | 11:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | thanks for the help rodrigo_. you may ping me in #-bugs or #-+1 if something comes up | 11:52 |
| BUGabundo_remote | bye | 11:52 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, I guess it'll still be relevant for the 2D launcher, no? | 11:53 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'll just file a formal bug for now for the release notes | 11:54 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, against nebook-launcher-efl and ubuntu-netbook-default-settings please | 11:54 |
| didrocks | (that's the two packages which contains those settings) | 11:54 |
| pitti | didrocks: bug 588675 FTR | 11:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588675 in ubuntu-netbook-default-settings (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "[Maverick Alpha-1] Empty favourites (affects: 1)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588675 | 11:57 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 11:57 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| didrocks | pitti: we also got the two panels and not the dedicated applets. Do you know what changed so that the postinst of ubuntu-netbook-default-settings doesn't seem to have been executed? (I don't remember to add anything to casper about that) | 12:20 |
| didrocks | well, mkdir seems to have worked, but not update-gconf-defaults | 12:22 |
| didrocks | if I execute it manually, I get /var/lib/gconf/une.* and all is fine (favorites, panel and default applets) | 12:24 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| pitti | didrocks: I don't know of any change there, but admittedly I was quite disconnected from maverick development so far | 12:53 |
| pitti | didrocks: you could check the livefs build logs for any errors that the postinst might have spat out? | 12:54 |
| didrocks | pitti: do you have any pointer to it please? I can't find it and it's always the issue, I should add a bookmark for them (looked from qa.ubuntu.com…) | 12:58 |
| pitti | didrocks: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/ is the root of all the logs | 12:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks, bookmarking it | 12:59 |
| === cking is now known as cking-afk | ||
| pitti | didrocks: so you figure that empty favourites and GNOME-like panel configuation is the same root cause? | 13:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview accordingly | 13:18 |
| pitti | (wrong panels was just confirmed by ara) | 13:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: right | 13:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: merci | 13:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm trying another iso build to see if something happened. Don't see anything in the livefs log | 13:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: you're welcome | 13:18 |
| didrocks | I'm just worrying now :) | 13:18 |
| asac | hola ... any good/clean cdbs packaging example that does a two run build (e.g. two ./configure etc.) | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, i reproduced that desktopcouch bug too... seems completely broken for me as well | 13:28 |
| * kenvandine will nag chad when he shows up :) | 13:28 | |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, :( | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, also reproduced it in a pretty clean VM | 13:29 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, btw, the 2 branches for couchdb-glib and evo-couchdb are now done (with introspection and docs), so merge when you wish | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, yeah, saw that... bzr is upset with one of them | 13:29 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, yeah, poke chad about it | 13:29 |
| kenvandine | will figure that out today | 13:30 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, oh, which one? | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | i think it was couchdb-glib | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | bzr is complaining about format or something | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | but it isn't the usual upgrade to 2a thing | 13:30 |
| kenvandine | like i can't even checkout the ~ubuntu-desktop branch | 13:30 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - i'm not sure now, but cheese used to do that a few releases ago | 13:31 |
| seb128 | asac, there is no really clean way to it with cdbs | 13:31 |
| seb128 | asac, you can look to gnome-menus for example | 13:31 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, hmm | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, i am wondering if it is a bug in the bzr version in maverick | 13:32 |
| kenvandine | i haven't tried it on a lucid box yet | 13:32 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, it might be, my branch was created and pushed on lucid, from the ~ubuntu-desktop one | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 13:34 |
| kenvandine | i figured | 13:34 |
| kenvandine | i have a dusty lucid VM i'll boot up in a bit :) | 13:34 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 13:35 |
| asac | seb128: chrisccoulson: thanks | 13:36 |
| pitti | yay, LP is back \o/ | 13:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, if I launch the postinst manually, I get no error and the %gconf-tree.xml are generated. Is it allowed to make an upload with set -ex + some debug info in the postinst script and make a respin and have more logs? I'm kinda stuck TBH | 13:39 |
| rodrigo_ | bug #588478 | 13:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588478 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "RuntimeError: Can not find port of couchdb. (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588478 | 13:39 |
| pitti | didrocks: sounds fine to me, sure; you can then look at the dailies | 13:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks, making the change now | 13:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: note that we probably won't re-enable the daily cronjobs before Friday or Monday | 13:40 |
| pitti | but it's not that urgent anyway | 13:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: not a problem, thanks :) | 13:41 |
| === cking-afk is now known as cking | ||
| pitti | didrocks: on the bright side, standard netbook OEM install works just fine here :) (except the issue above) | 13:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm just able to reproduce it installing ubuntu-netbook-default-settings manually here, will be easier to debug | 13:50 |
| pitti | ah, nice | 13:50 |
| didrocks | once installed "sudo var/lib/dpkg/info/ubuntu-netbook-default-settings.postinst configure" works like a charm though | 13:50 |
| aquarius | seb128, pygobject bug filed at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject/+bug/588694 -- I'm not sure how to link it to upstream https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589253, and I'm not sure that the test case is useful (I'd do a pure pygobject test case that doesn't involve Rhythmbox but I don't really understand the problem well enough to do that). Feel free to change it any way you thi | 13:55 |
| aquarius | nk necessary. | 13:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588694 in pygobject (Ubuntu) "null-ok parameter annotation not correctly handled for virtual methods (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 13:55 |
| ccheney | good morning | 13:55 |
| seb128 | aquarius, hey, thank you! | 13:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: clearly turning mad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/443328/ | 13:57 |
| pitti | didrocks: urgh | 13:58 |
| pitti | didrocks: does the "default" call somehow overwrite the "mandatory" one? | 13:59 |
| pitti | didrocks: perhaps add an ls in between in the postinst? | 13:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: hum, good idea, it shouldn't, but let's check | 13:59 |
| pitti | didrocks: personally, my next step would be to wrap the calls into strace -fvvo /tmp/update-gconf.$$.log | 14:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: and/or annotate /usr/bin/update-gconf-defaults with debugging stuff | 14:01 |
| * pitti wants a "sh -x" like option for python | 14:01 | |
| didrocks | pitti: that makes sense. Maybe a recent change of update-gconf-defaults make it doesn't like using it twice in a row. Thanks for the suggestion | 14:02 |
| didrocks | I'll have a look at recent update-gconf-defaults change too (I confirm that none of the file are never ever created in the postinst) | 14:05 |
| seb128 | the schemas registration got moved to triggers | 14:06 |
| seb128 | there is maybe a bug there | 14:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, this is just default with update-gconf-defaults, not schemas, right? | 14:07 |
| seb128 | right | 14:07 |
| seb128 | but maybe the schemas defaults registration changes as well | 14:07 |
| seb128 | I didn't check | 14:07 |
| didrocks | hum, I'll have a look | 14:08 |
| didrocks | * update-gconf-defaults, gconf-schemas: do nothing when called from | 14:09 |
| didrocks | dpkg, except from gconf2.postinst itself. | 14:09 |
| didrocks | in 2.28.1-2 | 14:09 |
| seb128 | right | 14:10 |
| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
| seb128 | it's a trigger now | 14:10 |
| didrocks | hum, not nice at all for me that :) | 14:10 |
| seb128 | can't you just use the trigger? | 14:10 |
| didrocks | yeah, adding it to the corresponding directories for une | 14:11 |
| Laney | didrocks: banshee-meego is in experimental now, fyi | 14:12 |
| didrocks | Laney: 1.7.1-1, sweet, thanks. I'll check the banshee release as I don't know if we will go with 1.8 (if they use gsettings and so on) :) | 14:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we can go with 1.8 | 14:15 |
| seb128 | we get the platform updated | 14:15 |
| seb128 | shouldn't be an issue for random applications to update | 14:16 |
| seb128 | we need to be careful for things which use shared keys etc though | 14:16 |
| pedro_ | seb128, bonjour, how are you? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | hey pedro_ | 14:18 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 14:18 |
| seb128 | what about you? | 14:18 |
| pedro_ | seb128, I'm good too, thanks ;-) | 14:18 |
| seb128 | pedro_, could you test the telepathy-butterfly update and confirm msn is still working btw? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | no need to confirm that proxy works | 14:18 |
| seb128 | but we need at least to confirm it doesn't break other things | 14:19 |
| pedro_ | seb128, can we have gnome-terminal 2.30.1 into lucid ? the upstream maintainer is complaining about the version we're shipping there said it's buggy | 14:19 |
| pedro_ | seb128, yeap i'll have a look into that | 14:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, mvo: ^ | 14:19 |
| seb128 | pedro_, thanks | 14:19 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 14:20 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok for banshee | 14:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, let me know if we should sync the new version, you might want to check with the banshee Debian,Ubuntu maintainers though | 14:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you need hands for gnome-terminal update (not sure about the second hilight) | 14:22 |
| seb128 | didrocks, would be nice if you or mvo could do it | 14:22 |
| seb128 | I'm doing 80% of the desktop srus atm and still have quite some on my list | 14:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: trying to fix the ubuntu-netbook-settings-blabla think first and on it then | 14:22 |
| seb128 | I would be happy to let this one to somebody who do work on the package usually | 14:22 |
| Laney | I've no problem with you syncing it | 14:23 |
| seb128 | I try to not work on packages I don't touch usually | 14:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I'll check the banshee diff, IIRC we are in sync | 14:23 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you have an opinion on 1.8 for this cycle? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | Laney, stability, coming changes, gsettings | 14:23 |
| seb128 | Laney, I've no doubt we can sync I'm rather wondering if we should think about going for 1.8 | 14:24 |
| Laney | Not sure what they are doing with regard to the platform, but yes I think that aiming for the next stable is the right thing | 14:24 |
| jcastro | anyone have a link to the "push my new awesome app I just wrote in quickly into the software center for the stable release" spec? | 14:24 |
| seb128 | jcastro, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-opportunistic-apps-stable-release | 14:25 |
| jcastro | thanks! | 14:26 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 14:26 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, I've a fix, do you think it will worth a respin? | 14:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: nah, it's fine; it's just alpha-1, the main point of which is to test the merged installer and new kernel | 14:41 |
| pitti | didrocks: what was it? great that you figured it out! | 14:41 |
| pitti | didrocks: also, folks can just dist-upgrade to get the fix | 14:41 |
| pitti | at this point, only major installation failures are worth a respin | 14:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: gconf is now using a trigger (kudos to seb128 for mentionning it :)) and so, update-gconf-defaults doesn't work from dpkg | 14:42 |
| pitti | aah | 14:50 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, that bug (bug #588478), you see it on maverick, right? | 14:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588478 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "RuntimeError: Can not find port of couchdb. (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588478 | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | yes | 14:53 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 14:53 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, hi | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | hey rickspencer3 | 15:16 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, is there an API for identi.ca? | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | yup | 15:17 |
| rickspencer3 | thinking about using it for the sample app for the developer manual | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | cool | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | i don't know much about it | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | that is segphault's area of expertise | 15:18 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, do you know where the API is? | 15:18 |
| rickspencer3 | or is it all form posts? | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | not sure | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | i think they have something REST | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | but anything i know about it is from talking to ryan | 15:18 |
| rickspencer3 | ah | 15:18 |
| rickspencer3 | so it's all urllib2? | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | think so | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | gwibber uses pycurl though | 15:20 |
| rickspencer3 | pycurl? | 15:20 |
| rickspencer3 | interesting | 15:20 |
| rickspencer3 | I guess he needs that to handle auth | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | we switched to pycurl to fix some bugs | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | urllib2 was causing hangs on facebook | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | never figured out why, but pycurl worked reliably | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | with facebook urllib2 would just never finish getting the result | 15:21 |
| rickspencer3 | weird | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | looks like gwibber does a post to submit a status update | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | it was weird | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | but the rest of the methods are downloading json | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | but i think there is something better | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | just requires oauth or xauth | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | i think | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | which we will move to | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, http://status.net/docs/api/index.html | 15:24 |
| rickspencer3 | cool | 15:25 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks kenvandine | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | so that is post | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | looks like they have plans to write a "native API" | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | whatever that means :) | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | they also have a twitter compatible api http://status.net/wiki/Twitter-compatible_API | 15:26 |
| rickspencer3 | meh | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | that document seems to have much more in it | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | might be a better reference | 15:26 |
| rickspencer3 | interesting | 15:28 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, I think I'll just start with getting a public feed from identi.ca using urllib2, parse that with beautifulsoup, and then stuff it into a DictionaryGrid | 15:29 |
| rickspencer3 | that should get things going quickly | 15:29 |
| rickspencer3 | later we can use gio to get the data asynchronously, maybe | 15:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, new gnome-terminal needs a new libvte, not sure we want to update that into an SRU | 15:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, tricky | 15:32 |
| seb128 | I think the new version doesn't build | 15:32 |
| seb128 | udeb build issue | 15:32 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ^ | 15:32 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, it's not there was only one rdepends :) | 15:33 |
| didrocks | like* | 15:33 |
| tintin | Hello. I have configured my Ubuntu 10.04 with LDAP. At logon, appear a list of users who have previously logged. How can I remove these "cached" users? I only want to appear the box to write the username and password. | 15:35 |
| seb128 | tintin, hi, try #ubuntu | 15:36 |
| tintin | seb128, thanks, i have tried but im trying in others because anyone knows | 15:36 |
| seb128 | look to open gdm bugs | 15:37 |
| seb128 | there is one about it with the gconftool command | 15:37 |
| pedro_ | seb128, ok, thanks | 15:41 |
| pedro_ | i hate when they do that, put new lib requirements so late during the cycle... | 15:41 |
| didrocks | james_w: waow, when you have a git/svn version bzr bd -e will download the distribution home made tarball, that rocks! | 16:12 |
| james_w | didrocks: thank jelmer :-) | 16:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, using the deb-src you mean to get the source? | 16:13 |
| didrocks | james_w: I'll for sure :-) | 16:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: it seems to have taken that, not sure of the internal | 16:13 |
| seb128 | that's not really new is it? | 16:14 |
| seb128 | it does that since I use bzr bd | 16:14 |
| seb128 | seems the logical way to get the current source ;-) | 16:14 |
| didrocks | maybe, I just never noticed it as most of the time I do "$bzr bd -e -r <…>" and it looks at debian/watch | 16:14 |
| tintin | Hi! i have an ubuntu 10.04 installation and i have a problem. At logon i select the language i want to work but when start i see that some programs take effect and appears with the language i select, but the system menus does not have the language, any ideas? i see that if i select the language after login on system --> language support everything goes ok | 16:18 |
| rickspencer3 | tintin, hiya | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | fyi ... this channel is where developers who are developing the desktop hang out | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | we're not much equipped for support questions | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | that's generally in #ubuntu | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | you're welcome to hang out here, of course | 16:20 |
| rickspencer3 | if you are debugging the code so that you can produce a patch or etc..., then we are equipped to help you with that | 16:20 |
| tintin | rickspencer3, ok, sorry and thanks | 16:21 |
| rickspencer3 | tintin, no apologies necessary, I just didn't want you to suffer waiting for an | 16:22 |
| rickspencer3 | like I say, you are welcome to hang out | 16:22 |
| pitti | bye everyone, see you all on Monday! | 16:40 |
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| Amaranth | chrisccoulson: Sorry everyone started jumping on gnome-session for compiz not starting. I _told_ them at least some of the cases of this problem are because compiz.real is gone | 17:20 |
| chrisccoulson | Amaranth - yes, that breaks sessions after upgrading for users that use session saving | 17:21 |
| Amaranth | But apparently adding a compiz.real symlink doesn't help for these people either so they just duped the bug I was commenting on to bug 467668 and dropped the compiz part | 17:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 467668 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[regression-release] Neither compiz nor metacity nor nautilus are run at start (affects: 37) (dups: 3) (heat: 196)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/467668 | 17:21 |
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| Amaranth | Although honestly I'd say gnome-session not handling compiz.real going away is a bug too ;) | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | gnome-session could probably handle that better | 17:24 |
| Amaranth | Wow, just realized that broke karmic->lucid upgrades and hardy->lucid upgrades | 17:25 |
| Amaranth | That kind of thing should probably be added to the standard QA testing before release | 17:25 |
| vish | Amaranth: that is bug 498203 , chrisccoulson remember this one? found it early in lucid | 17:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 498203 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Session starts without any window manager , if saved session is broken (affects: 6) (heat: 28)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498203 | 17:26 |
| chrisccoulson | it should only be broken for people using session saving though, and that didn't even work in hardy IIRC | 17:26 |
| chrisccoulson | vish - yeah, that's the one | 17:26 |
| Amaranth | chrisccoulson: I thought the gnome-session that broke it was in intrepid | 17:27 |
| Amaranth | s/broke it/dropped it as a useless feature without user input/ | 17:27 |
| Amaranth | :D | 17:27 |
| chrisccoulson | Amaranth - yeah, that's right actually. but the session management worked quite differently in hardy, i wouldn't expect that problem to break hardy -> lucid upgrades | 17:28 |
| Amaranth | chrisccoulson: That depends, does the new gnome-session have code to read from ~/.gnome2/session? | 17:29 |
| chrisccoulson | Amaranth - it doesn't. and it doesn't have the concept of X-GNOME-Provides either IIRC, which is what breaks it | 17:30 |
| Amaranth | ah | 17:30 |
| vuntz | chrisccoulson: huh? The new gnome-session definitely knows about X-GNOME-Provides | 17:30 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, maybe it does | 17:30 |
| chrisccoulson | vuntz - i'm talking about the old one ;) | 17:30 |
| bjf | on maverick (an upgrade from lucid) I just tried to "sudo apt-get install mplayer" and got: "mplayer: Depends: libdirectfb-1.2-0 but it is not going to be installed" | 17:31 |
| bjf | what's the right thing to do here? | 17:31 |
| vuntz | chrisccoulson: hrm, okay, I guess I should read more carefully the discussion, then ;-) | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | vuntz - some users have a saved session which doesn't work after upgrading, because compiz binary got renamed | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | so the desktop file with X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager in the saved session doesn't actually work | 17:32 |
| Amaranth | arg | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | and users end up without a window manager | 17:32 |
| vuntz | chrisccoulson: bug in gnome-session | 17:32 |
| Amaranth | You guys figured out this bug like 2 weeks after I made the change that got rid of compiz.real | 17:32 |
| Amaranth | And I didn't hear about it until like a month before release and only recently figured it out | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | vuntz - yeah, i think i might have mentioned it to you already | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | i would work on a patch, but i don't really work on gnome stuff atm ;) | 17:32 |
| vuntz | I had a patch to rework the provides stuff | 17:33 |
| vuntz | it's a bit broken for another reason (forgot which reason, but well...) | 17:33 |
| ccheney | anyone happen to be processing sync requests today that can do a couple for me? 588812, 588813 | 17:55 |
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| mvo_ | hey seb128 | 21:50 |
| mvo_ | seb128: is there no gnome-session-remove anymore? I have gnome-session trying to start metacity for me currently (but xfwm4 is running because metacity is so crashy on maverick) | 21:51 |
| seb128 | not for some cycle no | 21:57 |
| seb128 | the crashy issue should have been fixed today | 21:57 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell did an upgrade | 21:57 |
| seb128 | mvo_, ^ | 22:02 |
| mvo_ | aha, cool | 22:02 |
| mvo_ | thanks! | 22:02 |
| asac | mvo_! | 22:36 |
| seb128 | asac, you should be sleeping by now! | 22:37 |
| mvo_ | hey asac - what TZ are you currently in? | 22:37 |
| seb128 | speaking of which time to go to bed ;-) | 22:37 |
| seb128 | 'night | 22:37 |
| mvo_ | yeah | 22:37 |
| mvo_ | here too | 22:37 |
| seb128 | 'night mvo_ | 22:37 |
| seb128 | enjoy your weekend | 22:37 |
| mvo_ | you too | 22:37 |
| * mvo_ waves | 22:37 | |
| asac | mvo_: i finally moved to antarctica ... there i can easily switch timezones by walking a few meters ;) | 22:38 |
| mvo_ | asac: I knew it ;) | 22:39 |
| mvo_ | asac: longer days too | 22:40 |
| mvo_ | so its easier to get more done | 22:40 |
| ajmitch | it's a bit cold there at this time of year | 22:41 |
| mvo_ | s/at this time/at any time/ | 22:42 |
| mvo_ | :P | 22:42 |
| * mvo_ really should go to bed now before he becomes even more silly | 22:42 | |
| asac | 'night mvo_ | 22:44 |
| mvo_ | night asac and ajmitch | 22:46 |
| asac | byebye | 22:46 |
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