[10:58] <the-dude> cjwatson: if you are interested im using Ubuntu preseesing to deploy desktops in a hostpital
[11:11] <cjwatson> nice, I like being socially useful :)
[11:13] <the-dude> we already won best business case :)
[11:13] <ev> Of course this also makes us socially responsible. ;) "Bug in the Ubuntu installer leaves 23 dead."
[11:14] <ev> Perhaps that humor was a bit too dark
[11:15] <the-dude> ev: we don't use them for critical stuff (yet)
[11:15]  * ev breathes a sigh of relief
[11:15] <the-dude> *beep beep beep kernel panic*
[11:16] <ev> lol
[12:04] <utente> I have problem whit wubi on vista home
[12:04] <utente> You have a solution?
[12:05] <utente> I usa ubuntu 10.4 32bit ISO
[17:02] <xnox> ev, so foundation team meetings are at 15:00UTC during Summer time in Britain? http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=UTC+time says it's 16:00UTC now but the meeting has finished.... =( missed half of it
[17:05] <ev> xnox: the meetings are at 4pm BST, yes
[17:05] <ev> it's always 5pm UTC
[17:05] <xnox> great =) I'll update the wiki then
[17:05] <ev> does it say otherwise on a wiki page somewhere?
[17:06] <ev> ah, please do
[17:06] <xnox> yes & on the fridge calendar =)
[17:06]  * xnox reading logs
[17:06] <cjwatson> 4pm BST is 3pm UTC not 5pm
[17:06] <ev> for what it's worth, you can normally catch what you missed by reading the mootbot logs, but alas I forgot to do a #startmeeting
[17:07] <ev> err whoops
[17:08] <xnox> so is the meeting set in UK time or UTC time. Eg do you meet at 4pm UK during winter?
[17:10] <cjwatson> I think it's been 4pm UK time for quite a while now, inc. during winter
[17:14] <xnox> kk
[17:15] <xnox> nothing interesting really happened =) just lightning rounds and I've been there for the i686 issue =)
[17:46] <ev> heh
[17:46] <ev> our meetings tend to be a bit dry
[17:47] <ev> xnox: I don't know if I'll get to your branch proposal today.  Definitely tomorrow though.  How's the CLI frontend coming along?
[17:57] <xnox> ev, it's brain dead right now. It can do a stick without persistence and if both --iso & --dev is supplied
[17:57] <xnox> but currently it's an extension on-top of gtk interface =) cause it was easier for me to test that
[17:57] <xnox> so I need to clean it up to make it not depend on python-gtk2 ;-)
[17:58] <xnox> ev, about the package rename. Are we renaming source package as well? (Consequences being that we will end up with _two_ packages to track in lp.net/ubuntu/+source/$package)
[17:59] <ev> heh
[17:59] <ev> I think so
[18:00]  * xnox "ugly but works" is general advice on the gsoc-students private mailing list
[18:00] <ev> but perhaps we should check with them
[18:00] <ev> haha
[18:00] <xnox> ev, "them" debian or foundations team
[18:00] <ev> debian
[18:00] <ev> if we can avoid it, great
[18:00] <xnox> cause if we rename source package as well then we will need to adjust package-sets in ubuntu for all the cd's
[18:00] <ev> if not, I won't put up a fight
[18:00] <ev> just mutter under my breath ;)
[18:01] <ev> xnox: that's easy - I can sort out the seeds
[18:01] <ev> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement if you're curious
[18:01] <xnox> =) read that long time ago. Didn't play around with command line tools
[18:01] <ev> not renaming the source package saves us having to migrate the bugs
[18:01] <xnox> ev, ok but we will not rename the lp.net/usb-creator?
[18:01] <ev> cjwatson: didn't you automate that for oem-config, by the way?
[18:02] <ev> I don't suppose you still have the code?
[18:02] <xnox> ev, yeah i really don't want to rename source package
[18:02] <ev> xnox: I don't know how easy it is to rename projects.  If we have to cross that bridge, we can talk to the launchpad guys
[18:03] <xnox> ev, i did renaming projects on launchpad
[18:03] <ev> but yeah, ideally I'd like to do the bare minimum here
[18:03] <ev> oh?
[18:03] <xnox> after you are happy & migrated bits you want. LOSA wipe the old project and set it as alias to new one
[18:03] <ev> ah
[18:03] <cjwatson> I think I just wrote a dodgy throwaway launchpadlib script, sorry
[18:03] <ev> no worries
[18:03] <xnox> see "gnomesword" -> "xiphos" & "bzr-rebase" -> "bzr-rewrite"
[18:03] <cjwatson> it didn't take all that long
[18:03] <ev> okay, so here's what I think:
[18:04] <ev> lets see if Debian really want us to rename the source package
[18:04] <xnox> ev, are you gonna do that? =)))))
[18:04] <ev> if they do, we'll do that and migrate all the bugs using some dodgy lplib code
[18:04] <ev> but we'll leave the project name alone (we can change the title)
[18:05] <xnox> sounds good =)
[18:05] <ev> either way, we'll change the seeds to use startup-disk-creator-gtk-my-god-this-is-a-bit-silly-isn't-it
[18:05] <ev> ;)
[18:05] <ev> cjwatson: noted; thanks
[18:06] <xnox> ev, I can write really cunning debian/control generating code using m4 (reusing gcc packaging stuff) to keep debian at random names they want & keep ours as it is
[18:06] <ev> lol
[18:06] <xnox> and add nasty easter eggs when the package is build with DEB_VENDOR=Debian =)))))
[18:06] <ev> I'm just happy that Alexander is okay with startup-disk-creator
[18:07] <ev> a few more rounds of bikeshedding would've drove me insane
[18:07]  * xnox not sure how that will help with "improving" Debian-Ubuntu relationship though
[18:07] <ev> haha
[18:08] <ev> by the way, I'm on vacation all next week
[18:08] <xnox> ev, but we don't really want transitional packages to appear in Debian. So some debian/control mangling will be needed
[18:08] <ev> I'll still be contactable via email though
[18:08] <ev> hmm, good point
[18:09] <xnox> =) read the meeting log. Doing something nice =) or just horizontal-position 24x7 in front of TV with laptop, tablet and a few other cool gadgets?
[18:10] <ev> my dad is visiting from the states
[18:10] <ev> so I'm going to take the opportunity to do some more proper exploration of London
[18:10] <ev> which I only seem to get around to when I have guests
[18:10] <xnox> cool =) love London =)  i live in Hull, Yorkshire but i've been to almost every corner of london
[18:11] <ev> plus he loves Colin Dexter, so we'll head up to Oxford
[18:11] <xnox> my sister might be moving to London if she gets the job =) and I might be moving in with her, just to live in London ;-)
[18:12] <ev> xnox: you must forgive my generally lack of British geography skills, but if you're in London at any point, we shouldn't pass on the opportunity to meet up for a drink
[18:12] <xnox> ev, Oxford's a complete dump =)
[18:13] <ev> never been, but it's more for the ability for him to have a clearer image when he's reading :)
[18:14] <xnox> ev, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuHYO9TM5A
[18:14] <xnox> =)))) the only reason I'm proud to be in University of Hull =)
[18:14] <ev> OH GOD NO, NOT BLACKADDER!
[18:15] <xnox> I referee National Volleyball League so I have been around England a lot =)
[18:15] <ev> love Fry and Laurie, hate Atkinson.
[18:15]  * xnox +1
[18:15] <ev> :)
[18:16] <xnox> well off to program cause Britain's got talent is soon =)
[18:16] <ev> see ya
[18:39] <xnox> ev, updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam & fixed time on fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar it should now display correct UTC time during winter & summer
[18:39] <xnox> there is a joke about why it's UK time on the wiki page =)
[18:43] <ev> haha, nice one
[18:44] <ev> right, I'm out for the evening
[18:44] <ev> have a good one!
[18:44] <xnox> =)