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| bjf | pgraner, nevermind, seems to have fixed itself | 03:48 |
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| * apw waves | 08:19 | |
| amitk | hey apw | 08:20 |
| apw | morning amitk hows it going? | 08:20 |
| amitk | fleshing out specs and pushing pending patches upstream | 08:21 |
| amitk | you? | 08:21 |
| * smb good mornings the channel | 08:22 | |
| * amitk good mornings smb | 08:24 | |
| smb | hi amitk | 08:24 |
| amitk | .. and adds "morning" to webster's dictionary as a verb | 08:24 |
| cooloney | apw and amitk smb, good morning guys, what's up | 08:26 |
| smb | cooloney, I am (more or less) :-P | 08:26 |
| apw | amitk, heheh | 08:26 |
| apw | smb, moin | 08:27 |
| apw | cooloney, just fighting aufs2 and the liveCDs | 08:27 |
| cooloney | smb: do we still have the kernel debug package? | 08:27 |
| smb | apw, still? | 08:27 |
| apw | smb, the fighting is now to ensure i've got and tested the right image | 08:27 |
| smb | cooloney, you mean on ddebs.ubuntu.com? | 08:27 |
| cooloney | so if we wanna to debug a module, we need a .ko with debug info, right? | 08:27 |
| apw | i think its fixed | 08:27 |
| apw | cooloney, symbols are often helpful | 08:28 |
| smb | The only problem might be I did not upload lately | 08:28 |
| amitk | apw: will union-mounts happen? | 08:28 |
| smb | They would be there with the next security update | 08:28 |
| apw | amitk, too soon to tell, i am waiting on testing of it | 08:28 |
| apw | smb, i think lucid is the only one missing isn't it? | 08:28 |
| apw | just due to luck | 08:29 |
| cooloney | smb: since our kernel package including the module which were --strip-debug, how's the debug kernel package? | 08:29 |
| smb | apw, Would need to check. I changed another one to the new format | 08:29 |
| smb | apw, Might have been karmic | 08:29 |
| smb | cooloney, Its packaged without strip | 08:29 |
| apw | smb, yeah but last i looked there was .31 ones there | 08:29 |
| smb | cooloney, http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ | 08:30 |
| cooloney | smb: yeah, so that's for debugging. but i never use that before. this question comes from TI guys | 08:30 |
| smb | cooloney, But if you need Lucid, it will take one or two more days | 08:30 |
| smb | cooloney, The package basically contains the unstrippeped modules and the full vmlinux | 08:31 |
| cooloney | smb: thanks a lot. cool, fully understand now | 08:31 |
| cooloney | smb: if someone wanna debug the modules, he can install this debug kernel package, right? | 08:31 |
| smb | cooloney, right, if they don't vanish again, which should not be the case, hopefully... | 08:32 |
| * amitk recovers from hours of reading the "suspend blocker api" thread on LKML | 08:32 | |
| smb | An api to block suspend or one to find them? | 08:33 |
| amitk | smb: an api to block suspend after enabling "automatic aggressive suspend" (called opportunistic suspend by Google) | 08:35 |
| cooloney | apw: is there any way to build udebs from a source package? | 08:35 |
| cooloney | apw: i can use sbuild to get udebs. is there another way? | 08:35 |
| smb | cooloney, skip_dbg=false | 08:36 |
| cooloney | i tried 'fdr binary-arch', but no udebs. | 08:36 |
| cooloney | smb: skipdbg=false for udebs? | 08:36 |
| smb | err udebs | 08:36 |
| * smb clear his glasses | 08:36 | |
| cooloney | smb: i think that is for debug package, right? | 08:36 |
| smb | cooloney, Yeah, forget what I said | 08:36 |
| smb | cooloney, I would not thinks so because you need the modules to be build to create packages with the modules referenced | 08:37 |
| apw | cooloney, ok udebs are currently only enabled if you have /CurrentlyBuilding | 08:37 |
| cooloney | apw: no idea what's /CurrentlyBuilding | 08:38 |
| cooloney | apw: a directory which i need to create manually? | 08:39 |
| smb | cooloney, Its a file | 08:39 |
| apw | its possible that if you build binary-arch binary-udebs it will do it | 08:39 |
| apw | but if you make /CurrentlyBuilding in the chroot, it will also build it | 08:39 |
| smb | cooloney, sudo touch /CurrentlyBuilding in your chroot | 08:40 |
| * cooloney finds using sbuild to native build my ti-omap4 source package is very fast in tyler.mills | 08:40 | |
| * apw adds _documenting_ and cleaning up the controls for all releases to his TODO | 08:40 | |
| cooloney | just 1 hr | 08:40 |
| apw | cooloney, that sounds acceptable to me | 08:41 |
| cooloney | smb and apw, yeah, does that work for cross compiling? | 08:42 |
| cooloney | 'fdr binary-arch binary-udebs' works for cross compiling? | 08:42 |
| apw | the problem is if linux-tools is enabled it does not work | 08:44 |
| apw | so yuo'll need do_tools=false at least to cross compile i think | 08:44 |
| cooloney | apw, ok, no problem, i will try that. | 08:44 |
| apw | cking, hey ... when filing bugs on iso testing, is there any special magic for that? | 09:09 |
| apw | ie. how do identify the bugs so they can be found | 09:09 |
| cking | apw, there is a field in the bug tracker as per test case to enter the bug number - this is all I do | 09:13 |
| apw | cking, ok thanks | 09:13 |
| cking | but there may be some tags that I don't know about | 09:14 |
| cking | All the notes say is: "Please report any bugs you identify in Launchpad and report on the success or failure of the test in the tracker: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/" | 09:15 |
| cking | apw, you biting the QA bullet - cool! | 09:15 |
| apw | cking, dipping a toe in the pool | 09:15 |
| cking | see how many bugs you can find - I aim for 4 each spin - usually it ends up as stupid ones (e.g. broken eye candy) | 09:16 |
| ericm_ | apw, I've added the link bjf mentioned in the reply to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MeetingHowTo for easier reference, hope that's OK | 09:20 |
| apw | ericm_, ok | 09:21 |
| * cking goes to get some H/W from the loft - back in 5 | 09:22 | |
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| cooloney | apw: just a quick feedback, 'fdr binary-arch binary-udebs' works fine with cross compile | 09:50 |
| cooloney | it will give us all the udebs as well as kernel image and header packages in parent dir | 09:50 |
| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/588643 => if somebody feels checking :) | 09:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588643 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lockup with stacktrace (native_smp_send_reschedule) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 09:52 |
| apw | cooloney, good | 09:59 |
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| dupondje | Some small queryion, could bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/588643 be caused by an error in BIOS ? | 11:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588643 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lockup with stacktrace (native_smp_send_reschedule) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | 11:42 |
| === lag is now known as lag-afk | ||
| * apw returns | 11:55 | |
| kraut | moin | 11:56 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| === lag-afk is now known as lag | ||
| ogra | hmm | 13:05 |
| ogra | looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.34-5.13/+build/1768097 we dont seem to build any omap udebs at all anymore | 13:06 |
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| apw | ogra, it seems unlikely we ever did | 13:13 |
| ogra | we did with the topic branch in lucid | 13:13 |
| ogra | (and we need them for netinst images) | 13:14 |
| ogra | there seem to also be issues with the DSS code on a beagle XM | 13:14 |
| apw | ogra, yep but omap in maverick is a complete rebuild | 13:14 |
| ogra | i know | 13:14 |
| apw | ogra, its a shame noone ever tests things when they go in, only the day before the milest | 13:14 |
| ogra | i'm just examining the omap3 kernel now and note down issues i find :) | 13:15 |
| ogra | i dont test because A1 is due :) | 13:15 |
| ogra | we dont build A1 images for arm | 13:15 |
| ogra | its just coincidence :) | 13:15 |
| ogra | apw, btw, would there be a chance to not have the kernel produce an oops if it doesnt find its rootfs device and instead have it spit out a userfriendly error msg ? | 13:16 |
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| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/443294/ is what i typically get if there is no rootfs device | 13:17 |
| apw | ogra, i thought it dropped to busybox | 13:17 |
| ogra | not if you dont have an initramfs | 13:17 |
| ogra | see the bottom of the paste | 13:18 |
| apw | then its meant to tell you which things you have | 13:18 |
| ogra | i seem to remember (from my pre ubuntu times) that it properly panicked and gave a useful error | 13:18 |
| apw | ogra, given that shows the card appearing the instant before it explodes i suspect this is not cause it doesn't find root | 13:18 |
| ogra | i'm only using initramfs since ubuntu :) | 13:19 |
| apw | when my root is missing i see a panic which ends with a list of the filesystems and devices available | 13:19 |
| ogra | weird | 13:19 |
| ogra | i get the panic since i use arm | 13:19 |
| ogra | actually i got used to have it but thinking about it i remember it was not always that way | 13:19 |
| apw | from the panic i'd say that a timer is firing to flash the cursor, but the framebuffer didn't initialise | 13:20 |
| ogra | yes, there are definately other issues with that kernel on the XM board i'm justy trying | 13:20 |
| apw | [ 2.365386] Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2... | 13:20 |
| apw | [ 2.385223] mmc0: new SD card at address aff7 | 13:20 |
| apw | [ 2.390167] mmcblk0: mmc0:aff7 SU02G 1.89 GiB | 13:20 |
| apw | [ 2.395141] mmcblk0: p1 p2 | 13:20 |
| ogra | but i see the oops across all arm arches | 13:20 |
| apw | from that you can even see that the disk was appearing, so its not at all clear its anything to do with root at all | 13:21 |
| ogra | i also saw it on imx51 before or on dove when experimenting with SDs without rootfs and initrd | 13:21 |
| apw | notice it dies here: | 13:21 |
| apw | [ 2.490692] LR is at cursor_timer_handler+0x34/0x38 | 13:21 |
| apw | that sounds very suspicious | 13:21 |
| ogra | hmm | 13:22 |
| * ogra unpacks a rootfs to the SD | 13:26 | |
| apw | ogra, that callback seems to be the cursor flasher ... every half second | 13:29 |
| apw | i think there is a bug in the omap fb which is leaving the cursor running when it fails to init | 13:30 |
| ogra | yeah, you are right, i even get the oops with a valid rootfs in place | 13:31 |
| ogra | the DSS/frambuffer code is a mess on omap i guess we will need a bunch of patches from the linux-omap tree to make it work | 13:31 |
| * apw can't hear you :) | 13:32 | |
| ogra | (it doesnt work at all on the touchbook or zoom2) | 13:32 |
| apw | i am somewhat intriqued who tested the image and what on, cause it was tested | 13:32 |
| ogra | and apparently also on the beagle XM | 13:32 |
| apw | i suspect just an official beagle is the only one supported | 13:32 |
| ogra | it likely works on one of the older beagles | 13:32 |
| ogra | XM is official | 13:32 |
| ogra | zoom2 is official too but will need patches | 13:33 |
| ogra | we agreed to support all these devices | 13:33 |
| apw | XM will be official at release, i am sure up to now we've not even had one | 13:33 |
| ogra | AI touchbook would be a nice to have since its an actual ARM netbook out there | 13:33 |
| ogra | apw, we have two in the company since about two months :) | 13:33 |
| apw | ogra, and who has them ? | 13:33 |
| apw | i bet noone who is doing the kernel work | 13:34 |
| ogra | amitk had one for kernel, not sure where it went | 13:34 |
| ogra | i have one as well | 13:34 |
| ogra | and i think there were even more | 13:34 |
| ogra | plars and jamiebennet used to have one each iirc but i'm not 100% sure | 13:34 |
| ogra | i am sure about the ones amitk and i have though | 13:35 |
| apw | shame that its eric doing the kernel work... ho hum | 13:35 |
| ogra | heh | 13:35 |
| ogra | erm, you mean bryan | 13:35 |
| apw | possibly, the disconnect is the same | 13:35 |
| ogra | he is doing omap4 atm | 13:35 |
| ogra | and he is doing it awesome :) without having HW at all i got a fully working kernel for my blaze board :) | 13:36 |
| apw | then i suspect noone is doing it | 13:36 |
| apw | ho hum | 13:36 |
| ogra | i know mpoirier and lag are supposed to do omap | 13:36 |
| ogra | under leadership of cooloney and amitk | 13:36 |
| ogra | but cooloney is busy with omap4 for the special 10.07 release | 13:37 |
| amitk | apw: ogra: The HW situation should improve soon(ish). We should probably revisit our HW allocations and get unused boards into hands of people that need them | 13:39 |
| ogra | yeah | 13:39 |
| dupondje | Now that there is some action here, could somebody tell me if http://dupondje.be/DSCF1025.JPG can be caused by a broken BIOS? | 13:42 |
| apw | dupondje, hard to say as thats not the first panic | 13:46 |
| === cking-afk is now known as cking | ||
| cking | dupondje, if you could capture more of the first panic then we could say for certain - the trace before the apic timer interrupt would be handy | 13:47 |
| apw | dupondje, the panic you do have implies a CPU is offline when we are not expecting it to be so, if its repeating then we are truly confused | 13:48 |
| dupondje | I need full hd tv :P | 13:48 |
| dupondje | used mainline kernel, and there it gives 'BUG: cpu soft lockup' ... :s | 13:49 |
| dupondje | 2.6.34 as mainline kernel btw | 13:49 |
| apw | Keybuk, hey ... did you get to do any testing on the init args kernels ?? | 13:52 |
| dupondje | to bad its not possible to scroll when the stacktrace is displayed | 13:53 |
| Keybuk | apw: not yet | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | apw: I will be doing that today | 14:01 |
| Keybuk | apw: while I can see items vanishing off my todo list, I feel like I'm not accomplishing much at the moment | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | too much catch-up | 14:11 |
| lag | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EGSLAZNT6VwJ:www.pubbs.net/kernel/200907/83651/+"no+console+suspend"&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk | 14:17 |
| apw | kernel/printk.c:__setup("no_console_suspend", console_suspend_disable); | 14:17 |
| apw | Keybuk, i can only sympathise. i had 5 items on mine, i've done 4 of them, but still have 6 to do for alpha-1 ... go figure | 14:18 |
| apw | Keybuk, do you know if you need special mount support for union-mounts ? | 14:32 |
| Keybuk | yes | 14:35 |
| apw | Keybuk, damn, i'll go look for those then | 14:36 |
| Keybuk | I have that ready | 14:36 |
| apw | Keybuk, ahh, if you have something i can slurp up i'll get it into the PPA as well | 14:37 |
| apw | Keybuk, then i can go do some testing myself | 14:37 |
| apw | Keybuk, actually it looks to be only two patches if i am reading Valerie's page correctly ... match your expectations? | 14:40 |
| Keybuk | that would require me getting some time to actually sort the package out | 14:44 |
| lag | BOOT_IMAGE=<blar> root=<blar> ro console=tty1 no_console_suspend quiet splash | 14:49 |
| cking | lag, it looks ok to me | 14:50 |
| cking | remove quiet and splash too | 14:50 |
| cking | mumble fail | 14:52 |
| lag | It sounded like you were on a CB radio and you were transmitting via a piece of string prior to dampening | 14:53 |
| cking | lag, my audio is screwy after a suspend/resume cycle - dunno why | 14:54 |
| cking | lag, console=tty is the normal default. | 14:56 |
| ogra | cking, talk to a kernel dev | 14:56 |
| ogra | :) | 14:56 |
| cking | "physician, heal thyself" | 14:56 |
| JFo | "Hoist by me own petard." | 15:00 |
| lag | JFo: Are you a fan of the great WS? | 15:02 |
| JFo | I am | 15:03 |
| lag | "Man does not live by bread alone" | 15:04 |
| bjf | moin yall | 15:07 |
| cking | hi bjf | 15:07 |
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| JFo | moin bjf | 15:22 |
| JFo | from bug 571378 | 15:22 |
| JFo | Jun 1 16:42:23 warthog libvirtd: 16:42:23.833: error : udevStrToLong_ui:73 : Failed to convert '008' to unsigned int#012 | 15:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 571378 in linux (Ubuntu) "C-Media USB Headphone fails to enummerate (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571378 | 15:22 |
| JFo | looks like some udev failure? | 15:22 |
| apw | JFo, well that has libvirtd in it as well | 15:23 |
| JFo | ah yes | 15:23 |
| apw | i'd tend to blame that first, and let them blame udev :) | 15:23 |
| JFo | heh | 15:23 |
| JFo | who owns that bit? | 15:24 |
| bjf | JFo, moin, since we have maverick daily isos now, i'll work on producing daily maverick test isos (shouldn't take more than a minute or two) | 15:24 |
| JFo | or rather those bits | 15:24 |
| JFo | bjf awesome | 15:24 |
| bjf | anyone know if emerald.pgraner is among the living? | 15:30 |
| * cking notes that suspend/resume on maverick alpha 1 is very speedy on his old dell 6400 | 15:35 | |
| Keybuk | apw: updating my laptop so I can install your test kernels | 15:38 |
| JFo | is the Lucid bacport kernel going to be based on .34 or .35? I was thinking the latter. | 15:39 |
| apw | Keybuk, i've run maverick kerenels on lucid no bother | 15:39 |
| Keybuk | apw: laptop is at a broken mid-maverick point ;) | 15:40 |
| Keybuk | updating to get it to boot again | 15:40 |
| apw | Keybuk, ooosp :) | 15:41 |
| apw | Keybuk, the 'text only' plymouth like screen (with four dots) is that part of plymouth as a package |? | 15:42 |
| Keybuk | plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text iirc | 15:42 |
| pgraner | bjf: I'm working on it | 15:46 |
| pgraner | bjf: had to bandage a cut finger | 15:46 |
| * ogasawara bails to dentist apt, back in an hour | 15:47 | |
| tgardner | JFo, the LTS backport kernel is tracking Maverick | 15:47 |
| JFo | thought so | 15:48 |
| manjo | smb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Tagging | 15:49 |
| jmfthevci | Hi all, anyone know the reasons behind the move of autoconf.h and utsrelease from the /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.34-5-generic/include/linux directory? | 15:52 |
| cking | manjo, box is on it's way - probably get to you by Friday | 15:52 |
| jmfthevci | It caused VMware's tools script to die - vmware-config.pl | 15:52 |
| jmfthevci | Took a bit of digging but found this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-maverick-misc | 15:52 |
| jmfthevci | Any comments? | 15:53 |
| sconklin | hi folks, I'm bck from the conference and should be in the normal swing again | 15:58 |
| JFo | woo hoo! welcome back sconklin | 16:05 |
| cking | lag: +CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=y | 16:06 |
| cking | +CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CONSOLE=y | 16:06 |
| cking | CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CH341=y | 16:06 |
| cking | CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_PL2303=y | 16:06 |
| lag | I'm going to do it via the menu system | 16:07 |
| * lag is looking | 16:07 | |
| cking | lag, I added them to debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu | 16:07 |
| lag | cking: Why CH341? Surely you mean CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO? | 16:10 |
| cking | lag, you need to chose the appropriate driver ;-) | 16:10 |
| lag | I thought there were only two in the UK? | 16:11 |
| lag | FTDI and PLxxxx | 16:11 |
| cking | lag, well, what ever is appropriate - I've got CH341 and PL2303 for some reason | 16:13 |
| bjf | JFo, something is busted building the maverick test isos (was working fine for lucid), am debugging | 16:13 |
| JFo | k | 16:15 |
| manjo | cking, thanks for the box | 16:24 |
| cking | manjo, it requires a US power lead - it did not come with one | 16:25 |
| manjo | cking, I can get that | 16:25 |
| cking | and I formatted it up to boot Karmic, so you can see it will work ;-) | 16:25 |
| manjo | apw, you worked on some of the fan cntrl stuff, are we missing any modules for the sensors? (lucid/maverick) ? | 16:26 |
| manjo | apw, what sensor modules need to be loaded ? | 16:27 |
| manjo | apw, when I run pwmconfig it says at the end /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: No sensors found! (modprobe sensor modules?) | 16:27 |
| manjo | apw, sensors-detect tell me what modules .. never mind | 16:29 |
| apw | manjo, yep sensors-detect ... but even then sometimes there are none still | 16:30 |
| dupondje | JFo: thanks for commenting my bug, by the latest upsteam kernel ? you mean the latest daily build on kernel.ubuntu.com? Or compile a fresh one from kernel.org ? | 16:37 |
| JFo | dupondje, there is a MainlineKernels page on the wiki | 16:38 |
| JFo | we build them so you don't have to :) | 16:38 |
| * JFo goes to find the link | 16:38 | |
| dupondje | well i'll try it when i'm home :) | 16:38 |
| manjo | tgardner, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/475641 | 16:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 475641 in linux (Ubuntu) "pwmconfig does not work after upgrade to 9.10 on TYAN server (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:39 |
| dupondje | 2.6.34 gave 'BUG: soft lockup ...' :) | 16:39 |
| dupondje | didn't try 2.6.35 yet | 16:39 |
| JFo | hmmm | 16:39 |
| JFo | dupondje, here is the link to all the info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds | 16:40 |
| JFo | let me know how it goes :) | 16:40 |
| dupondje | i'll do, and take some 'screenshots' ;) | 16:41 |
| JFo | cool | 16:45 |
| dupondje | its not possible to scroll up right ? cause if the error is to long, can't see everything then :s | 16:48 |
| apw | dupondje, right no up scrolly | 16:54 |
| dupondje | gotto ask full hd tv then :) | 16:55 |
| === kamalmostafa is now known as kamal | ||
| lag | cking: Are you around? | 17:14 |
| cking | yep | 17:18 |
| lag | read 2675 modules : new(121) missing(3) | 17:20 |
| lag | EE: Missing modules (start begging for mercy) | 17:20 |
| lag | make: *** [module-check-generic] Error 1 | 17:20 |
| cking | lag, gimme 5 - I've got to sort out the gas men again | 17:21 |
| lag | k | 17:21 |
| cking | lag, build with skipmodule=true I believe | 17:23 |
| cking | lag, fakeroot debian/rules .... skipmodule=true | 17:29 |
| lag | cking: Trying | 17:32 |
| lag | :) | 17:32 |
| cking | yet another rune to remember | 17:33 |
| lag | :( | 17:33 |
| lag | I already skip the abi test | 17:34 |
| lag | Why doesn't it allow you to have any built-ins? | 17:34 |
| cking | eh? skipmodule=true should work | 17:35 |
| cking | see line 104 of debian/scripts/module-check - this is where it skips the missing modules check | 17:37 |
| lag | I mean, why doesn't it allow built-ins by default | 17:39 |
| jpds | Would anyone know why kdump wouldn't be working on a HP Z600 workstation? | 17:39 |
| jpds | Or how to go about debugging why it isn't working? | 17:39 |
| cking | lag, oh, I see. dunno | 17:39 |
| akgraner | bjf, are you around | 17:52 |
| bjf | akgraner, present | 17:52 |
| akgraner | can you take a look at the the Kernel Team Meetings listed on the Fridge and let me know if the series is correct | 17:53 |
| akgraner | if it is not can you let me know so I can get it fixed immediately :-) | 17:53 |
| bjf | akgraner, is it on the front page? | 17:54 |
| bjf | akgraner, give me a URL to what you want me to look at | 17:55 |
| * manjo needs food.. goes to look in the kitchen | 17:56 | |
| === sconklin is now known as sconklin-lunch | ||
| akgraner | bjf, oh sorry let me get you the link | 18:00 |
| akgraner | bjf, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | 18:00 |
| bjf | akgraner, and from the calendar I do what? the calendar looks fine :-) | 18:02 |
| akgraner | bjf, nothing if all the times are correct | 18:02 |
| bjf | akgraner, 1700 UTC is the correct time, so that looks good to me | 18:03 |
| manjo | apw, smb is balcony open ? | 18:03 |
| smb | manjo, only if you have beer | 18:03 |
| akgraner | ok noted that Tuesday -1700 UTC is the time for all Kernel Team Meetings unless I am told otherwise - thanks! | 18:04 |
| bjf | akgraner, np | 18:04 |
| * bjf will brb | 18:04 | |
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| apw | mpoirier_, just to say i am still working on the omap udebs, its being truculant | 18:41 |
| mpoirier_ | apw: truculant is definitely a new word for me :) | 18:42 |
| apw | and likely spelt wrong by me of course | 18:42 |
| mpoirier_ | no, i just looked it up - it is correct. | 18:43 |
| apw | mad as it looks awful spelt that way | 18:44 |
| apw | anyhow its being truculant, but i think i've nearly got it licked | 18:44 |
| mpoirier_ | fabulous. | 18:45 |
| mpoirier_ | in the mean time sbuild worked for me. | 18:45 |
| mpoirier_ | I can finally move on. | 18:45 |
| mpoirier_ | thanks for the tips. | 18:45 |
| apw | mpoirier_, awsome | 18:46 |
| mpoirier_ | it took a bloody long time, even on tyler.mills. | 18:46 |
| apw | Keybuk, hey ... how did your testing go ? | 18:47 |
| apw | mpoirier_, arround an hour ? | 18:47 |
| mpoirier_ | is there a way to disable all the udebs except the one you are interesed in ? | 18:47 |
| mpoirier_ | no, more than that. I'll 'time' it next time. | 18:47 |
| apw | if you are considering that to make things faster you won't gain anything, as the whole kernel being built is a pre-requisite to generate any udebs | 18:48 |
| apw | mpoirier_, once i have this lot fixed I should be able to cross compile only one flavour and generate udebs for it | 18:48 |
| apw | which for me here takes about 20 mins | 18:48 |
| mpoirier_ | ok, it will be even faster on tyler. | 18:48 |
| mpoirier_ | it's worth the wait. | 18:49 |
| apw | if i haven't killed it by then | 18:50 |
| Keybuk | apw: it hasn't happened yet | 18:51 |
| Keybuk | apw: your initargs kernel didn't build, so there's no deb to try | 18:52 |
| apw | Keybuk, crap will sort that out | 18:53 |
| Keybuk | did the "was used" patches end up in the maverick kernel? | 18:54 |
| apw | Keybuk, nope not yet | 18:54 |
| * apw adds to todo | 18:54 | |
| Keybuk | k, if you want to go via ppa first, that's fine :) | 18:55 |
| apw | yeah sounds like a plan | 18:55 |
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| JFo | kro, off to grab a bit of lunch | 19:14 |
| JFo | err ok | 19:14 |
| jjohansen-afk | -> lunch | 19:31 |
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| apw | ogasawara, you abuot ? | 20:15 |
| ogasawara | apw: yep | 20:15 |
| apw | yo ... are you doing the -rc1 rebase 'next' ? | 20:15 |
| apw | as i am reminded it will need an aufs update before it will build right | 20:15 |
| ogasawara | apw: was just starting | 20:15 |
| apw | so as soon as you have the base rebase, perhaps you can push it somewhere i can get to it | 20:15 |
| ogasawara | apw: just squashing debian commits as we speak | 20:15 |
| ogasawara | apw: ack | 20:16 |
| apw | and i'll do the update for aufs in the morning on top | 20:16 |
| apw | wicked :) | 20:16 |
| JFo | ogasawara, bug 587444 looks interesting | 20:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 587444 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wrong dependency in linux-headers-2.6.34-x-generic (affects: 4) (heat: 20)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587444 | 20:50 |
| ogasawara | JFo: will take a look in a sec | 20:50 |
| JFo | kro, np | 20:50 |
| JFo | sigh* | 20:50 |
| ogasawara | JFo: ah, that seems one for tgardner as it's the maverick lts backports | 20:51 |
| JFo | ah right you are | 20:51 |
| tgardner | I can live with that | 20:52 |
| JFo | sorry to interrupt you :) | 20:52 |
| tgardner | JFo, wtf is that marked high? its not even a released package | 20:52 |
| JFo | heh | 20:52 |
| JFo | I apparently hit the wrong one | 20:53 |
| JFo | meant for medium | 20:53 |
| JFo | second time I have done that today | 20:53 |
| JFo | first one I caught as it happened | 20:53 |
| tgardner | JFo, nominate for Lucid and assign me so I don't forget | 20:53 |
| JFo | kro, will do | 20:54 |
| JFo | why does that keep happening | 20:54 |
| JFo | ah, it is tab completing | 20:54 |
| JFo | yep, automatic nick completion was checked | 20:55 |
| JFo | sorry about that kro | 20:55 |
| JFo | tgardner, done | 20:58 |
| JFo | cnd, looks like you could get a nice chunk of change to resolve bug 576601 | 21:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 576601 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[MacBookPro 7,1]mcp89 sata link reset fails, no disks detected (affects: 79) (heat: 462)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576601 | 21:02 |
| JFo | http://www.cofundos.org/project.php?id=187 | 21:02 |
| cnd | JFo: heh, upstream looks like they're getting involved | 21:04 |
| JFo | cool | 21:05 |
| dupondje | JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/588643 => was able to get a dmesg output when it got locked | 21:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588643 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lockup with stacktrace (native_smp_send_reschedule) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:09 |
| JFo | excellent! | 21:09 |
| dupondje | need to mark the bug as New again ? or you change status ? :) | 21:12 |
| smoser | hey all. | 21:14 |
| smoser | lets just pretend that i had a hardy xen domU running 2.6.24-24-xen | 21:14 |
| smoser | what would be the most reasonable way to get ext4 filesystem support for that pretend guest | 21:14 |
| JFo | dupondje, I have changed it | 21:19 |
| JFo | I was reading over the bug | 21:20 |
| dupondje | any idea what could be causing it ? could it be an instable BIOS version ? | 21:21 |
| tgardner | smoser, I don't think you can. ext4 did not exist for 2.6.24 IIRC | 21:23 |
| smoser | well, it does exist. its there. | 21:23 |
| smoser | at least ./Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt | 21:23 |
| smoser | its just likely old and buggy | 21:23 |
| tgardner | smoser, its was probably a preview and marked EXPERIMENTAL | 21:24 |
| smoser | yes | 21:24 |
| dupondje | JFo: also notice the segfaults, seems like some apps segfault randomly also :s | 21:28 |
| JFo | dupondje, not sure what could be causing it. odd that some apps are segfaulting randomly | 21:30 |
| dupondje | its totally random also | 21:31 |
| dupondje | happens since I changed CPU and did BIOS upgrade ... but before it was a single core, now quad .. so | 21:35 |
| jjohansen | smoser: define support? You could build the module externally, but no one will provide any kind of support for ext4 on 2.6.24 | 21:37 |
| smoser | i need it to work. | 21:37 |
| smoser | i'm guessing reasonable ext4 support is not backported that far back. | 21:38 |
| smoser | the driver in 2.6.24 will probably compile and maybe even work. | 21:38 |
| smoser | right now our UEC images build system is running the aforementioned kernel version, and I want to build images with an ext4 filesystem, which requires mounting said filesystem. | 21:39 |
| jjohansen | I don't think reasonable ext4 support for 2.6.24 is viable | 21:39 |
| jjohansen | you should be able to compile the fs and have it mostly work | 21:39 |
| jjohansen | there will be bugs (ext4 still has bugs) | 21:39 |
| manjo | smoser, make sure you have latest bug fixes for ext4, lucid kernel is missing those too, Bug #588069 | 21:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588069 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lucid kernel is missing a large number of important ext4 bug fixes (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588069 | 21:40 |
| jjohansen | manjo: I doubt those will even come close to applying to .24 era ext4 | 21:41 |
| manjo | jjohansen, I assumed smoser was going to backport... never mind then | 21:42 |
| smoser | manjo, i was assuming you had volunteered to backport for me | 21:45 |
| * manjo ducks and hides | 21:45 | |
| smoser | make sure that you get those latest patches :) | 21:47 |
| smoser | thanks all, i got somewhat what i expected. | 21:47 |
| kamal | mjg59: Hi -- A few weeks ago you proposed overriding the often-busted ACPI brightness control with an i915 opregion-based method -- I have implemented such a scheme -- are you available to talk about it? | 22:01 |
| stenten | Can someone help me finish triaging Bug #587136? | 22:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 587136 in linux (Ubuntu) "2nd Resume from Suspend results in reboot on Toshiba Satellite U400. Fixed in 2.6.34 Mainline. (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587136 | 22:30 |
| stenten | Since it's a suspend/resume bug, there's absolutely no debugging information in the logs, and I'm at a loss of what else to ask for. What should the Status be in that case? | 22:31 |
| * JFo looks | 22:31 | |
| mjg59 | kamal: For a few minutes, sue | 22:33 |
| kamal | mjg59: For review: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kamal/i915bri~3e/ | 22:33 |
| kamal | It works very well on two out of three laptops I've tested, but on the third laptop the i915 method silently fails (its a "GM45" card -- pci-id 0x2a42 ... IS_I915G() and IS_GM45() are true). | 22:33 |
| kamal | Perhaps you might have a look at the patch and/or scratch your head about why it doesn't work on that GM45? | 22:33 |
| JFo | stenten, he is on server? | 22:33 |
| JFo | may not be easy to test, but the mainline kernel testing would be nice | 22:33 |
| JFo | if he is willing and this isn't production | 22:34 |
| JFo | other than that, it looks almost ready | 22:34 |
| stenten | He's on a Toshiba laptop. | 22:34 |
| kamal | mjg59: fyi, same patch in a git tree: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=kamal/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/i915bri-3e | 22:34 |
| JFo | hmm | 22:34 |
| stenten | And he's already tested with the 2.6.34 mainline, and the problem is resolved. | 22:34 |
| JFo | stenten, all that is left is proper tagging fos subsystem | 22:35 |
| JFo | have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Tagging ? | 22:35 |
| JFo | for the subsystem tags? | 22:35 |
| stenten | We got all the way to the RTC overwrite part in debugging, but he has questions in Comment #10 that I'm really not qualified to answer. | 22:36 |
| JFo | cool | 22:36 |
| mjg59 | kamal: Mm. Could be that the gm45 case is broken somehow. | 22:37 |
| JFo | stenten, so this one needs the kernel-power tag and the kernel-needs-review tag | 22:37 |
| mjg59 | kamal: That's broadly what I was thinking though, sure | 22:37 |
| JFo | stenten, then it will be all set | 22:37 |
| stenten | JFo: Just saw that today (in your email actually). Tag it as 'kernel-power' and mark as Triaged? | 22:37 |
| JFo | yep | 22:37 |
| mjg59 | kamal: I think it's worth posting this upstream, if only to try to find out if anyone's got a better idea | 22:37 |
| JFo | don't forget the kernel-needs-review tag | 22:38 |
| JFo | that way it gets on the radar from monday | 22:38 |
| JFo | stenten, ^ | 22:38 |
| stenten | Is 'kernel-needs-review' the part that tells you it needs a dev to look at it? | 22:38 |
| JFo | well, it is the bit that gets it reviewed for inclusion on the 'hot list' | 22:38 |
| JFo | :) | 22:38 |
| kamal | mjg59: ok, if you consider it decent enough to sign off on it (or ack, or whatever), I'll post it upstream (with a note that its known to fail on this gm45. | 22:38 |
| stenten | Is there any difference between the meaning of 'kernel-needs'review' and marking it as triaged? | 22:38 |
| JFo | yep | 22:39 |
| mjg59 | kamal: I think post it to linux-acpi and intel-gfx as an RFC for the moment | 22:39 |
| mjg59 | And we'll bounce some ideas around | 22:39 |
| mjg59 | But I suspect that this is probably how it's going to be | 22:39 |
| JFo | stenten, triaged simply means it has everything needed to go to a dev, not that it will necessarily get to one | 22:39 |
| JFo | given the amount of bugs we have that is | 22:39 |
| kamal | mjg59: ah, got it, ok, I'll do that -- thanks much! | 22:39 |
| JFo | stenten, are there any particular subsystems of the kernel that interest you? | 22:41 |
| JFo | sound, graphics, etc.? | 22:41 |
| stenten | JFo: Not particularly. I'm working in xserver-xorg-video-intel with Geir Ove Myhr, and we get a lot of suspend/resume bugs that end up being reassigned to the kernel, so I like to followup on them. | 22:42 |
| JFo | good deal | 22:42 |
| stenten | JFo: Do you mind changing the Status on that bug to Triaged? I'm only a lowly Bug Squad member :) | 22:45 |
| JFo | I don't mind at all :) | 22:46 |
| JFo | done | 22:46 |
| stenten | Thanks kindly. | 22:46 |
| JFo | my pleasure | 22:46 |
| kro | JFo: :-) | 23:08 |
| JFo | :-) | 23:08 |
| JFo | been using your name in vain all day | 23:08 |
| kro | hehe, I noticed | 23:10 |
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