[00:55] <nhandler> akgraner: I'm not really sure why they send to OMG and not us. The only thing I could think of is that OMG has a more "fun" feel to it, whereas we have a more dry and business-like feel imo.
[00:55] <ZachK_> hey nhandler got a question
[00:55] <nhandler> ZachK_: Sure, what is it?
[00:56] <ZachK_> nhandler: as swoody is in hiatus for now i was wondering if it'd be alright if i nominated his padawan ddecator for bt membership at the next meeting...the one on the 8'th
[00:56] <nhandler> ZachK_: Let's move this out of here. It does not belong in -news
[01:16] <pleia2> nhandler: I think it's fun plus more of a community feel, it's a little scary (and a bit of a chore) to email a public mailing list with a story proposal, on omgubuntu it's simple - you click a submit button, use a web form, and get a friendly private response
[01:16] <pleia2> it's only one step up from commenting, which loads of people are already comfortable with
[01:37] <nhandler> pleia2: Well, iirc, we'll have something like that on the new fridge
[01:38] <pleia2> one can hope :)
[01:38] <nhandler> :)
[17:35] <xnox> Please remove "Foundation Team Meeting event" & use the "Foundation Team Meeting event (Correct Time)" event instead instead
[17:35] <xnox> from google fridge
[17:36] <akgraner> xnox, looking at that now
[17:36] <akgraner> one sec
[17:37] <xnox> the meeting is set in UK time, the new event should be correct both during summer & winter now.
[17:37]  * xnox hopes
[17:37] <xnox> as displayed in UTC on google fridge
[17:38] <akgraner> xnox, we are working on a solution but some of the times of the meetings are correct - and some are not - I am in the process of contacting teams with meetings listed to verify the times :-)
[17:38] <xnox> akgraner, as far as i understand to get the times correct you should
[17:38] <xnox> 1) create a new calendar in GMT (no daylight saving time)
[17:38] <akgraner> nods
[17:39] <xnox> 2) create event in that calendar
[17:39] <xnox> 3) and only then invite fridge
[17:39]  * xnox Google calendar is brain dead ;-)
[17:39] <akgraner> xnox, thank you :-)  we are actively working on this
[17:39] <xnox> but you can create events in your local timezone if it makes sence
[17:40] <xnox> e.g. Foundations team is based in London and they do meeting in UK timezone so the calendar with original event is now set in UK timezone such that it will make sence to the UTC people looking up fridge
[17:40] <akgraner> popey, highvoltage or cody-somerville  etc can you all look over this post please and I'll fix the foundations team information and finish getting contacts to the other teams - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2048
[17:40] <xnox> and e.g. for LOCO teams
[17:41] <xnox> akgraner, I'm ok to write this up on the fridge wiki?
[17:43] <akgraner> xnox, we are re-org'ing all the wiki's  - but you can add this to the wiki however,
[17:43] <akgraner> people (teams) add events to the calendar
[17:44] <akgraner> then the time changes and while we as editors try to ensure that the times are correct
[17:44] <akgraner> team members who add events also need to verfiy the times are correct after time changes
[17:45] <akgraner> we are aware that google calendars have some limitations that we as editors are aware of, and are actively seek alternatives to use with the new fridge
[17:45] <highvoltage> akgraner: looks good, should I set it to publish?
[17:45] <akgraner> highvoltage, please if you don't mind
[17:45] <akgraner> I'll add the forum link in and then send to the planet
[17:45] <highvoltage> only a pleasure
[17:46] <akgraner> xnox, I guess what I am saying is  - things are changing and we appreciate a note - or as you have done here a heads up that this needs to be changed
[17:46] <akgraner> :-)
[17:52] <akgraner> xnox, I delete the Foundation Team Meeting Series that was incorrect so the only one that should appear is the one that says (Correct Time)  thanks for bring it to our attention :-)
[17:53] <xnox> akgraner, also there is one more change needed which will screw up the fridge
[17:53] <xnox> the fridge calendar display on the fridge.ubuntu.com is a "view" in GMT no daylight saving time
[17:53] <xnox> but the actuall calendar is still in GMT
[17:54] <xnox> so I'd propose to login as the actual owner of the fridge calendar
[17:54] <akgraner> google cal does not have a UTC option
[17:54] <xnox> set the user time "calendar settings -> general -> user current time" to GMT no daylight saving time
[17:54] <xnox> akgraner, yes it does =) I have it in my google calendar
[17:55] <xnox> after the user setting is made
[17:55] <akgraner> xnox, yes - let me do one thing at a time - I need to see which ones are correct and which ones arent
[17:55] <xnox> create a _new_ calendar with GMT no daylight saving time
[17:55] <xnox> and migrate correct events to that _new_ calendar
[17:55] <xnox> and after all is correct switch to the new calendar
[17:56] <xnox> and rename the current one to "obsolete"
[17:56] <akgraner> xnox, let me verify which ones are right and which ones aren't  -I am contacting people now - we'll get this fixed :-)
[17:56] <xnox> how does that sound?
[18:26] <akgraner> Ok I have asked Robbie Williams, who is the Canonical Acting Platform Team manager to send an email to all the teams to verify what is displayed is the correct day of the week and time - If there are any corrections they will email me
[18:28] <akgraner> I will also add a table of these reoccurring meetings to our wiki pages - As long as what is displayed is UTC and corrected then we will just do a better job of making it clear to verfiy the correct time is being display and when time changes happen we'll be able to verify from the table if the times need to be adjusted or if team members when adding their events allowed for those changes
[18:36] <xnox> akgraner, cool =) i've added bits about time zones to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar#preview
[18:36] <xnox> akgraner, cool =) i've added bits about time zones to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar
[18:39] <akgraner> xnox, thanks  - I'll look over everything in a few - if someone else wants to look over it and add/tweak etc please do  - thanks everyone!
[18:40] <xnox> no problem =) just flying by ;-)
[18:41] <xnox> akgraner, can someone please set up an empty canonical google calendar that auto-accepts invites for me to start doing other project's plan ? =)
[18:42] <xnox> e.g. an agenda view of ubuntu release schedule, gnome, kde, qt, mozilla, python, gcc to the best knowledge =)
[18:42] <akgraner> xnox, we aren't adding new pages right this sec - we are in the middle of a complete re-org on the fridge
[18:42] <xnox> ok =)
[18:42] <akgraner> thanks!
[18:44] <xnox> akgraner, I can delete my event now on my calendar as you have merged / recreated it on fridge?
[18:44] <xnox> about the foundations team meeting?
[18:45] <akgraner> I just used the one you created
[18:45] <xnox> kk
[20:08] <akgraner> Reminder sent to the list as well - Ubuntu News Team Meeting tomorrow 2300 UTC
[20:13] <internalkernel> akgraner: ping
[20:14] <akgraner> internalkernel, pong
[20:14] <internalkernel> just wanted to let you know that I won't be able to make the meeting...
[20:14] <internalkernel> striking the show tomorrow, and driving home...
[20:14] <akgraner> internalkernel, ahh ok - thanks for the heads up!  Have a safe trip home
[20:15] <internalkernel> I will, let me know if I miss anything... and feel free to volunteer me. :)
[20:25] <akgraner> internalkernel, will do thank you!
[20:26] <akgraner> highvoltage, et all can someone look over - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2049 for me please - Thanks! :-D
[20:26] <ZachK_> hey internalkernel
[20:26] <internalkernel> howdy
[20:28] <ZachK_> internalkernel: how goes wiki?
[20:30] <internalkernel> haven't touched it ;) lol
[20:31] <ZachK_> ah
[20:36] <highvoltage> akgraner: in Edubuntu meeting currently, if no one else looked at it in ~25 minutes then I'll do so
[20:37] <ZachK_> akgraner: i don't have access...sorry
[20:37] <highvoltage> akgraner: is it ok if I change FreeNode to freenode? (all lowercase is technically its correct name)
[20:37] <akgraner> oh I can change it right quick :-)
[20:39] <akgraner> highvoltage, I just copied it from the email :-)  changed it
[20:45] <highvoltage> akgraner: posted
[20:45] <akgraner> highvoltage, thanks!
[20:46] <highvoltage> you're welcome