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GuyCanadahey guys im trying to build a home server just for file sharing and whatnot, can anyone give me a hand im having a lot of trouble finding good guides online00:10
uvirtbotNew bug: #588523 in autofs (main) "Autofs5 fails on cascading/hierarchical mounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58852300:11
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VadimCKGuyCanada: how familiar are you with Linux and command line?00:23
VadimCKif you just want to share files http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/ is a good guide00:24
GuyCanadavladimCK im fairly fammiliar, no expert tho00:34
VadimCKwhat do you want to use the server for?00:35
VadimCKGuyCanada: ^00:36
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tyler_d8I have changed the physical sata port that my primary drive is plugged into, and now I am being dropped into an initramfs prompt01:22
tyler_d8how do I a. determine the uuid now that the drive is moved and b. get the system to boot from it?01:23
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ChmEarltyler_d8, #ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/01:48
ChmEarlor #blkid01:48
therianhey everyone quick question, where do i go if I want to submit something to the software center? or just request an update?01:49
norrecis there a way to limit the amount of bandwidth an ethernet interface can use?01:52
sorush20how doesn't the server version have a desktop environment? like gnome?01:55
norrecbecause its a server version, its done to remove the weight and reduce the potential security threats01:56
norrecif u need a gui try a webgui like ebox01:56
sorush20wow, so the server admin has to run everything from the cli?02:01
cjwatsonit's easy to install a GUI on top if you so wish.  The Ubuntu server is built out of the same repository as the Ubuntu desktop edition.02:02
cjwatsonjust a question of defaults.02:02
sorush20I've installed ubuntu server as a virtual machine on virtual box but now every time I sudo shutdown now, I'm reffered to a menu rather than system shutdown.02:04
Eladanyone ever setup a cert for their imap mail?02:08
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tyler_d8anyone have experience with the "disk utility" -- I am getting an error on connect -- Unexpected stderr output - expected `udisks-tcp-bridge: Waiting for secret' but got `stdin: is not a tty'02:27
tyler_d8k so we are one step further, just now need to get the usage details for the udisks package, assumedly the command udisks-tcp-bridge is supposed to be somewhere within the daemon02:45
tyler_d8??02:45
savidHi,  I have a website that sends out automated messages to registered users.  I'm getting blocked by just about every other email provider out there.  I've removed myself from the spamhaus blacklist, and cannot find my IP's on any other list (I checked dnsbl.info as well).03:13
savidI also set up an SPF record for my domain.   What else can I do?03:13
tyler_d8looking for the optimal mysql db raid-5 stripe size?03:19
tyler_d8savid: you may need to e-mail spamhaus to ensure your ip address or range is listed within "commercial" not "private"03:20
savidtyler_d8,  I put my IP in the spamhaus tool,  and it says it's not blocked03:21
tyler_d8thats not what I said03:21
savidok, just figured that would accomplish the same thing03:22
savidDoes the reverse-dns IP for the domain have to match the originating server?  If so, not sure if that's even possible for my setup03:23
savidtyler_d8,  ok, so I need to email spamhaus -- I can't find any method for contacting them by email on their website.  Is this something you've done before?03:28
tyler_d8savid: had to get my ip changed in their system as some isp's block based on where your ip is linked too, commercial or residential03:29
tyler_d8cannot remember the exact details so I apologize03:29
savidtyler_d8,  so that's not the same as getting removed from the SBL/PBL/etc.. ?03:30
savidbecause that's what I did --  I also checked on dnsbl.info and I'm not appearing on any blacklists.03:30
tyler_d8whats a good benchmark utility for my raid array ?03:34
Roxyhart0hi there, I need to install in a server a mail client to send email. Somebody know how to do that, a good manual?03:35
unewbieRoxyhart0 try zimbra03:40
unewbieit's easy :D03:40
Roxyhart0I will check thanks, it works with command lines?03:40
savidAnyone know of a good, inexpensive SMTP relay?03:41
unewbiejust extract and answers some questions then do the rest with web03:41
unewbiei only know to use zimbra as mail server but i don't know smtp relay03:44
tyler_d8whenever I run drive tests on my raid 5 I get kernel panic errors, and ultimately a frozen machine03:48
tyler_d8??03:48
tyler_d8the drives are all healthy, and the OS is on a separate drive(not on raid)03:48
DatzHi, I was wondering if xubuntu with gdm killed would be lighter on ram than Ubuntu-server?04:07
lifelessubuntu-server, the thing with no gui ?04:08
Datz?04:08
Datzbasically, is there any differences between different variants of ubuntu besides desktop environment.04:12
lifelessno, they are all the same packags.04:14
Datzah, good, thanks04:15
twbOf course, some packages are EOLed earlier than others.04:15
Datzmy box with only 256 MB ram running xubuntu with GUI killed uses only ~100 MB RAM, however my -server edition is using something like 450MB RAM on another box.. of course it has more tasks..04:16
DatzI'll go with -server and see what happens04:17
Datzthanks04:18
twbDatz: it's trivial to find out what is using up memory, and either remove, replace or reconfigure it.04:19
Datzyea04:21
DatzI hope it will be trivial if I run into that problem04:21
Datzhow come I can't find server edtion torrent here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/04:22
Datz10.04 that is04:22
Datzalso, I'm not able to donwload the 32bit version from the main page04:25
twbPresumably nobody bothered to create a torrent for it.04:25
twbI always use my ISP's mirror, since that's not counted against my monthly cap.04:25
lifelesstorrents are one of the least efficient ways to download things04:25
lifelesshugely efficient for the torrent publisher04:26
twblifeless: I contend that is not necessarily true.04:26
DatzI was just worried about getting throttled by the download server04:26
Datzbut since I can't find a download yet, that's not my biggest problem04:26
Datz:)04:26
Datzthis is where the 32bit download takes me: http://quigonjinn03.appspot.com/www.ubuntu.com/start-download04:27
DatzI just get a blank screen04:27
twbIf you have gigabit within campus and a shared 10MB link to the US, and four other people are seeding from within campus, then it would be faster to torrent from your local peers than to use a bulk-bucketed HTTP GET over the 10MB line.04:27
twbDatz: what is your country code?04:28
DatzIn US04:29
Datz+1?04:29
twbI meant the two-letter code, which would be .us04:29
Datzoh04:29
twbYou want Ubuntu Server 10.04 for x86-64, or i386?04:30
Datzi38604:30
Datzand yes 10.0404:30
twbArgh, it seems that archive.ubuntu.com's CD/DVD images aren't hosted in the same place on us.archive.ubuntu.com as they are on my ISP's mirror04:31
Datzhumm :-\04:31
DatzI can always get it some other time I guess04:31
twbYou could always use http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso04:32
twbThat's a generic installer that downloads packages on demand, rather than up front.04:32
Datzah04:32
Datzinteresting04:32
Datznetboot.. humm04:32
Datzwould I be able to remotely install?04:33
twbThe machine is in one place, and you're in the other?04:33
Datzit is tucked away between the back of my desk and the wall :P04:34
twbDuring the install, you can choose to install an SSH server in memory, and then perform the rest of the install via SSH04:34
twb(All install media, except the "desktop" CDs, support that.)04:34
Datzah, so I need a monitor to do the inital setup?04:34
twbDatz: or a serial line04:35
twbOr, to provide some answers in advance ("preseeding"), but that's probably too much effort for you04:35
Datzah04:36
Datzperhaps04:36
Datzmaybe I will just move some stuff around04:36
twbDebian's installer is a good deal cleverer than Ubuntu's silly wrapper on it04:36
Datzhumm04:36
Datzwell, I've saved link, not going to do install tonight, so I'll check if download is working in the morning :) If not I'll try the netboot/mini.iso04:37
Datzbrb04:37
twbok04:37
tyler_d8excellent, so my motherboard is fried in my one machine(server-64) and my backup I have found out now need to be upgraded(in the process now) but as well has gnome-packages installed, what is the most effective way outside of re-installing to switch to ubuntu-server?04:58
twbtyler_d8: that was confusing05:03
tyler_d8lol, sorry05:04
twbYou have a host with GNOME installed, and you want it to be a server?05:04
tyler_d8I believe its the entire ubuntu-desktop package installed05:04
tyler_d8based on what I am seeing within the upgrade logs05:04
twbWell, either don't run, or remove, those packages.05:05
twbThe difference between -desktop and -server is largely the set of packages that are installed by default05:05
tyler_d8so I would be safe in doing sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop05:05
twbIf you're not using it, sure05:05
twbI would probably do:05:06
twbaptitude --schedule-only markauto ~i; aptitude --schedule-only keep ~aremove; aptitude markauto ubuntu-desktop05:06
twbAnd carefully review the packages that it offers to remove, in case you DO need any of them.05:06
tyler_d8very good, ty05:09
fluvvelltwb, I like the look of that, not being a big aptitude user - what does the ~aremove do ?05:18
twb~a means "what's gonna happen"05:18
twbSo ~aremove means "packages scheduled for removal"05:18
Datzso, it's not just I having the problem of not being able to download ubuntu-server?05:19
twbaptitude-doc-en has a chapter on such patterns.  I highly recommend learning them, since the alternative is usually a tedious chain of grep-dctrl (or worse, dpkg -l/apt-cache and sed/awk/perl).05:19
twbDatz: I've no idea05:19
Datzok.. can someone else check? :P05:20
Datzit would be most excellent05:22
fluvvelltwb, thanks - I've generally just used apt-get and apt-cache, dpkg -l with grep etc. my awk got lost about 10 yrs ago (have used it thoughand i've only ever used what others have sed for me ;-)05:22
fluvvelloops, dropped a )05:23
twbRoyK: FYI, the RAID5 sync finished and is [UUU] this morning05:23
Roxyhart0hi there i want to configure in my cups server a printer pdf, somebody have any good link to do that05:24
Datztwb: Found the torrent I was looking for. I don't know how I could get to it from the linkI posted before  FYYI http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/05:31
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Eladanyone setup dovecot+ssl?07:08
EladI have been working at it all day with no luck07:09
twbElad: did you read the ubuntu server guide?07:15
EladI read the dovecot guide07:15
Eladtwb, looks like they have some stuff in the ubuntu guide - reading now07:17
kaushalhi07:19
kaushalI have deleted the boot file on Ubuntu 8.04 server, is there a way to regenerate it again. I did rebooted and it did not created it, Also I touched the file and there were no entries in that file after reboot. I have followed also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925, it did not worked either. Please suggest/guide07:19
twbkaushal: which boot file?07:20
kaushaltwb: /var/log/boot07:21
twbkaushal: that file is created at boot by /etc/init.d/bootlogd, iff /etc/default/bootlogd contains BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes07:21
twbIt doesn't matter if the file exists beforehand07:22
twbHowever, it might be that Ubuntu has broken that functonality in recent versions, since it's largely a sysvinitism and Ubuntu moved most stuff to upstart since 8.04...07:22
twbOh, you're on 8.04.  Carry on.07:23
corpseis there a command to get your external ip? or do i have to setup a .sh script?07:25
twbcorpse: WHICH external IP?07:26
twbAnd, no, not portably.  Conventional wisdom is unfortunately to postprocess the output of "ip address show dev eth0" or some variation thereof.07:26
corpsetwb: my servers webhost ip07:26
wise_cryptcorpse: www.whatismyip.com07:27
twbcorpse: so when you have zero NICs, or fifteen NICs, or one NIC with three IPv4 addresses and two IPv6 addresses, which address do you want?07:27
twbwise_crypt: oh, right, maybe he meant that.07:27
corpseyeah thats kinnda what im talking about, but i need to run that on my server07:28
corpsei have set up some .sh scripts based on what i have found on google. but none see to work as they are all a few years old07:28
twbw3m <URL> or lynx <URL>07:28
corpsethat was it =D thanks alot!07:29
corpsedidnt know about the w3m command07:29
wise_cryptcorpse: dyndns can do that for you www.dydns.com07:30
wise_cryptcorpse: dyndns can do that for you * www.dyndns.com07:31
Eladso I just got done reading the ubuntu guide, and it didn't answer my question07:40
Eladalthough it is possible I didn't ask it the right question07:41
EladI can connect fine to dovecot+ssl, but I get a warning of an untrusted cert. I change the cert location in dovecot.conf to my qualified certs, but my mail client still sees the old certs; makes me think I did something wrong07:43
twbDid you bounce dovecot after reconfiguring it?07:43
Eladyes /etc/init.d/dovecot restart07:43
SpamapSttx: question about cassandra's huge pile of dependencies..08:24
ttxSpamapS: yes08:24
SpamapSttx: It seems I'll probably have to replace w/ symlinks.08:24
SpamapSttx: but one in particular is tricky... antlr308:25
SpamapSttx: we package 3.0.3 in main, I don't see a merge in merge-o-matic .. but cassandra wants 3.1.308:26
ttxSpamapS: welcome to hell08:26
ttxSpamapS: does cassandra want 3.1.3, or need 3.1.3 ?08:26
ttxalso I'd recommend patching the build.xml rather than using symlinks, if you can08:27
ttxit's cleaner than reconstructing symlinks on package unpack08:27
ttx(source package unpack)08:28
* ttx grumbles08:29
ttxSpamapS: there are several options...08:36
ttxSpamapS: (1) Cassandra builds with 3.0.1 alright -> DONE08:36
ttx(2) Cassandra can be tweaked to build with 3.0.1 -> PATCH -> DONE08:36
ttx(3) Update antlr3 to 3.1 -> prep package, test all reverse build deps to see if they accept 3.1 instead of 3.0.1, upload as the new antlr3, depend on that -> DONE08:37
SpamapSttx: one of the reverse deps is eucalyptus-java-common .. ;)08:38
ttx(4) If some require 3.0.x and the others require 3.1.x...08:38
ttxantlr is a build dep iirc, so it's quite easy to test08:39
SpamapSttx: ok, my preference was to just build w/ 3.0 .. but the cassandra guys are somewhat militant that we should build with the version as close as possible to the one in lib08:39
SpamapSttx: yes its a build dep, but it is a code generator, so it may generate different code ...08:40
ttxSpamapS: if it builds with 3.0, the plan would be to just build with it... and ask debian how open they would be to an update08:40
ttxit's a question of how many revdeps08:40
ttxSpamapS: that's a calssic case where Java collides with distributions08:41
ttxSpamapS: distributions try to have as little different versions of the same libs as possible08:41
ttxSpamapS: Java actually encourage devs to pick their specific version08:41
ttxand maven made it even worse.08:41
SpamapSttx: thats annoying. :-P08:42
ttxSpamapS: it's funny the first time it hits you. Over the long run, you just wish java didn't exist.08:43
ttxSpamapS: do you know how to do ISO testing ?08:57
ttxhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all08:57
ttxThat's one of the sevarl things we also have to do :)08:57
ttxseveral, even08:57
twbUpstream are jackasses, film at 1108:57
ttxtwb: I wouldn't say that. But in some cases, the way tehy are used to work doesn't play nice with the needs of distributions.08:59
twbWhen they respond to that difference in the style of schily or tuomov or moco, they are definitely 100% jackasses.08:59
ttxright :)09:00
SpamapSttx: Does it count if I use the iso to install in VMware?09:11
ttxSpamapS: if you mark so in the comments, that's ok09:12
ttxSpamapS: I use KVM for most of my testing.09:12
ttxSpamapS: I run a few basic installs on real HW just to check.09:12
SpamapSttx: I've no real hardware to test on really.. just my laptop :-P09:14
SpamapSI moved everything else into the cloud ;)09:15
SpamapSThough I have been thinking about putting in a server of some kind to host my local mirror of the archives09:16
SpamapSttx: so 20100601.1 ?09:18
ttxSpamapS: whatever the ISo testing site says. Looks like it is 20100601.1 for ISOs, yes09:19
ttxymmv for UEC images and ec2 amis09:19
SpamapSttx: ok, see you after some sleep. :)09:36
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tyler_d8anyone in here know mysql server?10:20
RoyKa little off-topic, but still https://secure.avaaz.org/en/gaza_flotilla_7/?rc=fb11:06
RoyKtyler_d8: I know it quite well11:06
tyler_d8ever migrated a db in 5.1 --- ubuntu11:07
mikekellywhat are obvious things to check if I'm getting a 503 on a basic apache2 setup on 10.04 ?11:08
mikekellylocalhost works fine but for some reason request to the actual host name are getting a 50311:08
mikekellyactually scratch that it's working with the host name - it just won't work from request that aren't on the host box11:10
RoyKtyler_d8: usually it just works - export the db from the old version with mysqldump11:11
tyler_d8no no, just the physical location on the same disk11:11
tyler_d8ie. modify the instance to have the data stored on a raid lets say11:11
incorrectis there a list of people providing ubuntu vps services around the world?11:50
RoyKeeeeerm ... seems there may be a kernel memory leak in lucid11:51
RoyKhttp://pastebin.com/XK8aDVkc11:56
RoyKit seems there are 16 processes running, each using 2,5GB or so, I have 64GB memory and 16 cores in this baby. According to ps, it's not using a lot of memory, but it's swapping like crazy11:59
DavieyRoyK: uptime?11:59
Davieyincorrect: only google AFAIK11:59
RoyKDaviey: 18 days12:00
incorrectDaviey, i found one that the xen guys do,12:01
DavieyRoyK: can you pastebin the headers of top?12:03
RoyKhttp://pastebin.com/msXYduBX12:04
DavieyRoyK: erm.. "top"?12:06
RoyKoh12:06
RoyKtop12:06
RoyK:)12:06
Davieyie, http://pastebin.daviey.com/wytX/12:07
RoyKhttp://pastebin.com/cwQYihHe12:09
DavieyRoyK: to me, it looks like Flexpart is leaking12:11
DavieyRoyK: Are you able to test Flexpart against valgrind?12:12
RoyKDaviey: should work, but then, why on earth doesn't ps report this? also, these are jobs that are started and run for, say, 2-3 days. then new jobs take over. new processes, just scripted12:15
RudyValencia|srvI love my personal server now that it runs Ubuntu :D12:15
RudyValencia|srvI was running it on FreeBSD but it was starting to get kinda hard-to-manage that way12:15
RudyValencia|srv(keeping ports updated and all that)12:16
RudyValencia|srvhow do I thank Canonical for their great work?12:16
DavieyRoyK: you could be right, but it would be interesting to see the results of valgrind to rule it out.12:18
DavieyRoyK: a resource leak you are experiencing in quite a short time, i would have expected others to have reported that by now12:19
DavieyNot saying that ISN'T the case, but be good to rule out things first.12:19
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RoyKDaviey: this is old fortran code, so I don't know - might be worth a try12:27
Jeniczek|vPracihi guys!13:07
Jeniczek|vPracianybody wiling to help me a bit with a weird behaviour of SAMBA?13:07
ttx!ask13:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:07
Jeniczek|vPraciGuys, I have the following SMB settings - http://pastebin.com/pfahh509 . When a user from creativeshop group creates a directory and uses Windows OS, it correctly creates a directory with 0770 privileges, but a user under MacOSX creates a dricetory with 751 and I really dont know why13:13
Jeniczek|vPraciany idea what is wrong ?13:13
maxagazhow to count the number of files in a dir ?13:20
Picils /path/to/dir | wc -l13:20
maxagazPici, and recursively?13:21
maxagazfind ./ | grep wc -l13:22
maxagazPici, thanks!13:23
Picisure!13:23
ttxkirkland/Daviey: could you cover http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4188/494 in Alpha1 ISO testing ?13:23
spineauttx: may I ask you another question regarding UEC ?13:24
ttxspineau: sure13:24
spineauttx: When you've just downloaded/registered an image13:25
spineauttx: Does every node cache it or only the one that will be running the instance ?13:25
ttxspineau: the node caches it the first time it starts it13:26
spineauttx: If there are extra nodes on the CC, they are not caching for future needs ?13:26
sommermorning13:27
ttxspineau: I don't think so.13:27
spineauttx: ok, thanks13:27
ttxsmoser: ping13:31
Davieyttx: I could indeed!13:34
ttxDaviey: cool ! You can cover the UEC images test with the same environment:13:35
ttxhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/421613:35
ttxhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/421713:35
ttxDaviey: ask me if you have any question, the docs should be straightforward though13:35
Davieyhmm.. ok13:35
* ttx updates them to use the lucid image by default13:35
Davieyttx: When is the deadline?13:35
ttxDaviey: end of today ?13:36
Davieyttx: It's going to be tight!  But think it can be done.13:36
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: You're setting a mask and you're not forcing the mode, so whatever the mac user put in his profile, will fit your mask.13:36
pthsWorkI'm setting up a Samba server agains 2008r2 DC's, but the realm= in smb.conf seems a bit unclear to me. Is it the domain that goes here, or is it the DC itself, if it's the DC itself, can I list more than one DC?13:40
Jeniczek|vPracialvin hmm13:40
ttxzul: for alpha1 testing, could you cover one of the EC2 regions ? Not sure smoser will show up.13:41
zulsure13:41
ttxzul: that would give us confidence, or time for a respin if needed13:41
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: You can change that on the macs. (in Globalpreferences.plist or something. I don't use samba for macintosh. Resource forks are still a cause for trouble)13:41
Jeniczek|vPracialvin so I have to use ,,force create mode (S) ,, and force directory mode (S) ?13:41
zulttx: gotcha13:41
smoserttx, i'm here.13:42
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: Yes, I'd experiment with that. It's easier than changing all those macs13:42
Jeniczek|vPracialvin the SAMBA runs on ubuntu server, not on MacOSX13:42
smoserand i've run the tests last night.13:42
ttxsmoser: ha13:42
Jeniczek|vPracialvin okey than13:42
smoseri just need to open a couple bugs and record results13:42
Jeniczek|vPracithanks alot13:42
ttxsmoser: care to start your magic EC2 automated tests ?13:42
ttxzul: then you can pick random ISO tests13:42
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: I know, but the macs will try to put their resource forks on your server. How that happens is dependant of the version of OS X13:42
* ttx is on random ISO tests as well13:43
ttxzul: mark them started when you start them13:43
zulttx:yep yep13:43
smoserttx, i already did on 2010060113:43
smoserwas re-spin required ?13:43
ttxsmoser: no13:43
ttxsmoser: the tests don't show up as completed (or started), so I figured you didn't run them :P13:44
smoserright. i just kicked off the test before i went to bed13:44
smoseri have to open some bugs and record results.13:44
Jeniczek|vPracialvin thank you very much, am gonna do it13:44
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ttxsmoser: I had ara promote the UEC image to the tracker, btw13:45
smoserhave you sniffed it ?13:45
ttxsmoser: no.13:45
smoser:)13:45
smoseri can sniff quickly here on lucid UEC13:45
ttxsmoser: that would be great13:45
ttxI didn't plan on reinstalling UEC today, was trying to push Daviey/kirkland into covering that part13:46
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: good luck. (btw, people told me netatalk has come a long way. Apple will still work better with afp than samba.)13:46
Jeniczek|vPracialvin well for me it sounds, that I have to force both create modes ( dir and file) to 770 on all shares that MacOS users have access to...13:47
Davieyttx: I really wanted to get this merge polished today, and the rig isn't yet setup.. That shouldn't take tooo long, but need to dig out some cables.13:47
ttxDaviey: maybe kirkland can cover the alpha1 UEC testing (at least on amd64)13:48
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Davieyttx: I think i can cover it, but depends on any hiccups getting the rig deployed.  I did want to borrow kirkland to review a diff.. it's quite large @ 648364 lines, and a second pair of eyes would be handy.13:50
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: I'm using force create mode = 0660 and force directory mode 0770, but I don't let apple users use samba. (using a commercial solution for that). Wen using those masks, I set the umask to 002 on the Linux clients (NFS) in /etc/profile. It results in directories drwxrwxr-x and files -rw-rw-r--.13:52
Jeniczek|vPracialvin why you dont let use apple users samba?13:53
ttxzul: please concentrate on i386, I've trouble downloading the i386.iso13:53
zulttx: ack13:54
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: That'd make a mess of the shares. That's not too bad, but their applications would have trouble finding out what filetypes are on the share.13:54
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: They could use extensions for that too, but well...13:54
Jeniczek|vPracihmm interestin13:55
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: Our mac users are used to OS9. They don't use extensions and you can't even begin to imagine what symbols they try to put in filenames13:55
Jeniczek|vPracithe force create modes are for specific share or as global option?13:55
Jeniczek|vPracii have just se tit for every share and the newly created dir is again with bad mask13:56
alvinOh, you can choose that. I use them globally13:56
Jeniczek|vPracimaybe samba needs to be restarted13:56
alvinor refreshed.13:56
Jeniczek|vPracihow to do that?13:56
Jeniczek|vPraciI dont want to break current open files13:56
alvinOh. On Linux it's $ sudo service samba reload13:56
Jeniczek|vPracireload, ok13:56
alvinthat won't break open files13:56
Jeniczek|vPraciReloading /etc/samba/smb.conf smbd only [ OK ]13:57
Jeniczek|vPracismbd should be enough, right?13:57
alvinyes. nmbd is only for netbios13:57
alvinHere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_fork There's a paragraph about SMB shares in that article13:58
Jeniczek|vPraciok, lets try it again13:59
alvinbut different versions of OS X will save their resource forks in different ways and you can get compatibility problems14:00
Jeniczek|vPracialvin hmm, the MacOSX still ignores the force mask14:08
Jeniczek|vPraciI must have somethin wrong then14:08
Jeniczek|vPraciIt sill creates just 751DIrs14:08
alvinWhat is the umask you'd like to see as a result? 770 dirs?14:10
zulsmoser: have your thought of creating the rootfs for the maverick ec2 images to be ext4?14:10
Jeniczek|vPracialvin yeah, for most of the dirs, 77014:10
smoserzul, thats the plan, yeah.14:10
smosermove to ext4 so i can move to btrfs next :14:11
zulsmoser: k14:11
zulheh14:11
smoserttx, images are booting, but i can't get to them.14:12
smoser(uec)14:12
ttxno ssh into them ? No network ?14:14
smosernever mind14:14
smoseruser error14:14
smoseri hate --key14:14
zullol14:16
smoserttx, when the user uses the system correctly it seems that the instances boot and are reachable via ssh14:17
ttxsmoser: good news, mark the tests ok while it works14:18
Jeniczek|vPracialvin any luck?14:19
smoserttx, its valid to call it passed having tested on lucid host ?14:20
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: I denied access to samba from the macs, so I can't test there, but I tried this from Windows. I want directories as 2775 and  that works. Maybe try  create mask = 02770 and directory mask = 0277014:20
ttxsmoser: it's actually how it should be tested.14:20
ttxsmoser: moving guests on stable host, moving host with stable guest14:21
ttxthough when everything works the shortcut is tempting.14:21
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: You can also try 'force directory mode'14:21
Jeniczek|vPraciyeah, thats what I was trying14:21
alvinThe samba howto is pretty complete about that. (difference between mask/mode etc)14:22
\shttx, regarding the ipv6 problem with authbind, wouldn't it be a good idea to add ipv6 support to authbind?14:22
ttx\sh: that sounds like the right solution.14:22
ttx\sh: haven't looked into what that would mean, though14:23
* ttx watches his upload rate go from "almost unbearable" to "completely useless"14:23
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: Aha, look here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=532856 I don't know if it applies. The version of samba will be more recent in Ubuntu.14:24
uvirtbotDebian bug 532856 in samba "umask settings overridden by Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) clients" [Normal,Open]14:24
ttxcan't even send an email with attachments wth14:24
\shttx, when I find the time, I'm trying to google some examples of how to implement such logic for ipv6...anyhow I need to find a way to test it though, and this will be a complicated task for me ;)14:26
kirkland ttx: sure14:27
kirklandDaviey: morning!14:27
ttxkirkland: see with Daviey to not duplicate effort -- also I don't think we need to tset UEC/i386   or the alternate topologies for this milestone14:27
kirklandttx: great14:28
kirklandttx: i'm supposed to review Daviey's merge of eucalyptus-devel today14:28
kirklandttx: i think it would be best if he installed a Maverick UEC for ISO testing14:28
kirklandttx: and then we upgrade that to his merge ;-)14:28
kirklandttx: two birds14:28
ttxkirkland: I like that14:29
Jeniczek|vPracihmm, alvin thats pretty crazy14:29
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: I concur14:29
Jeniczek|vPraciam tryin to set unix extensions = no if it make any effect14:29
Jeniczek|vPraciit seems that it helped to those guys14:30
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: Yes, I'm reading that here. Now I finally know what those unix extensions do. I'll leave them in here.14:33
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: If you have the time, I'd try netatalk.14:33
Jeniczek|vPraciI have never heard about netatalk14:34
alvinI use a commercial version of it. Keep help those Apple machines in check. Apple has always used appletalk and netatalk will bring that to your linux.14:36
alvin(In my world, NFS is for Unix/Linux, SMB for Windows and AFP for Mac.)14:37
Jeniczek|vPracihmm14:38
Jeniczek|vPraciill have a look14:38
Jeniczek|vPracilets try those extensions to be off14:38
Jeniczek|vPraciI dont have other Linux clients or server in this LAN, so turning them off should do no harm14:38
alvinIf I understand it correctly, it shouldn't harm you anyway. only the umasks, set on Linux/Unix will not be set on the shares.14:40
oru_workhow can Iinstall perl ?14:46
Picioru_work: Perl should be installed by default.14:46
oru_workPici, ok14:46
Jeniczek|vPracihm14:47
Jeniczek|vPracialvin its funny, now it creates 775s ;)14:47
alvinJeniczek|vPraci: If that's not what you want, look in man afpd. There's an option there to set umask14:48
sludge321Hi everyone. Was looking for some advice with a stange issue I am having with an Ubuntu 10.04LTS server I set up last week. cron.daily scripts do not seem to be being run. Also /var/log/messages is completely empty.14:57
kirklandDaviey: ping me when you're around15:01
Davieykirkland: PING15:01
kirklandDaviey: heellllloooooooo dave15:02
Davieykirkland: Hellloooooooooo ... Dustin15:02
kirklandDaviey: alrighty, so today, we need to do 2 things ...  a) run the alpha1 uec iso test, and b) review your eucalyptus-devel merge, right?15:03
Davieykirkland: correct-a-mundo.15:04
Davieykirkland: The diff is huge, so a second pair of eyes would be awesome15:04
Davieyhand to re-introduce the makefile diff, as it was failing to compile15:05
kirklandDaviey: ah, hmm, we'll need to look at that one closer then15:05
Daviey*had to reintroduce15:05
kirklandDaviey: let me reboot, and then let's get a schedule together for those two items, to make sure we sync up on them today15:09
Davieykirkland: Sounds good.15:09
* hallyn waits for wiki access...15:09
hallyni'm reviewing general todos, pls lemme know if i'm supposed to be doing anything else in particular15:10
ttxhallyn: welcome15:11
zulhey hallyn15:11
hallynthx :)15:11
hallynhey15:11
LinuxAdminhi guys15:28
LinuxAdminI'm configuring kvm and I'm getting some troubles.15:28
LinuxAdminI created a VM and I've configured bridge network interface15:29
LinuxAdminalthough I can ping the host from a VM and ping a VM from the host, I can't ping the  internet.15:30
LinuxAdmindo I have to configure tun/tap interface to get it working?15:30
LinuxAdminwhat could be missing?15:31
LinuxAdminany ideias?15:31
tintinHello. I have configured my Ubuntu 10.04 with LDAP. At logon, appear a list of users who have previously logged. How can I remove these "cached" users? I only want to appear the box to write the username and password.15:32
hallynLinuxAdmin: did you start from cmdline or from virt-manager?15:33
hallynif cmdline, what cmd?15:34
oru_worksudo mysql -v15:38
oru_workERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)15:38
oru_workwhy would it do that15:38
oru_worki'm running ubuntu 10.0415:38
oru_workit doesn't prompt me for the password :(15:39
cloakableoru_work: you're not telling it to prompt15:39
oru_workhow would I do that ?15:39
cloakableoru_work: mysql -p15:39
oru_worksudo mysql -p15:40
oru_workEnter password:15:40
oru_workERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)15:40
oru_workI have to be root right ?15:40
oru_workI don't think i have root enabled15:40
cloakableYou should enable the password first :P15:41
oru_workcan I install bugzilla from one of the packages or should I do it manually ?15:43
elb0wyou dont have to be root15:46
elb0won linux15:46
elb0wif thats what you meant oru15:46
remix_tjoru_work: mysql -u root is the command you need, if you do not set up the password15:56
LinuxAdminhallyn: I started from the command line15:57
LinuxAdminbut I've also tryed from virt-manager15:58
LinuxAdminit's the same behavior15:58
hallynwhat cmd?15:58
LinuxAdminwith virsh15:58
LinuxAdminwhat I'm burning my head is why can I ping the host from the outside world (it means that bridge is well configured)16:00
LinuxAdminwhy can't the VM ping the internet16:00
LinuxAdmin?16:00
oru_workthese are the last few lines of installation of /usr/bin/perl install-module.pl DateTime http://pastebin.linode.com/389516:01
LinuxAdmincan someone help me with this issue?16:02
hallynLinuxAdmin: when you started from the command line, what command did you use16:02
oru_worksudo apt-get build-essential16:04
oru_workis this misspelled ?16:05
hallynLinuxAdmin: i generally start vms with something like16:05
hallynkvm -drive file=server1.img,if=virtio,index=0,boot=on -m 1000M -smp 2 -redir tcp:2222::2216:05
LinuxAdminI defined auto start16:15
LinuxAdminwhen I started kvm the VMs start automatically16:15
LinuxAdminsorry hte delay16:15
LinuxAdminI used "virsh -c qemu:///system start vm1"16:17
oru_worki got this error after apt-get isntall yaml-mode16:24
oru_workhmmm http://pastebin.linode.com/389616:24
oru_workany ideas ?16:24
brianchidesterhi Deji16:27
Dejihgghd : ping16:28
Dejibrianchidester : pong16:28
Dejihggdh: ping16:28
hallynLinuxAdmin: can you pastebin the result of 'virsh dumpxml vm1'  ?16:28
Dejibrianchidester : thanks for the help16:28
brianchidesterDeji: yarp16:28
hggdhDeji: pong16:33
oru_workcan someone help me with this error http://pastebin.linode.com/389816:36
SpamapSoru_work: There's not much context there. What printed this error?16:47
oru_workSpamapS, i'm already passed that , thanks though. It was after I ran the installer for one of the perl modules16:48
oru_workSpamapS, was missing one dev library16:48
LinuxAdminsorry again hallyn, It's been a busy day. here is pastebin link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/443428/16:55
LinuxAdminhallyn: do you see anything strange with the config file?16:56
LinuxAdminbr1 it's my bridge interface16:57
LinuxAdminI can ping it from the outside world16:57
LinuxAdminso, I assume is ok with the bridge configuration on the host16:58
LinuxAdminwhat do you say?16:58
hallynLinuxAdmin: really, you can ping it from the outside world but can't get to the outside world from it?16:59
LinuxAdminI can get to the outside world from the host16:59
LinuxAdminwhat I can't is ping the outside world from any VM17:00
hallynand you mean you can ping the host, but not vm1, from the outside word?17:00
LinuxAdminyes17:00
hallynwhat exactly do you get if you do wget google.com from vm1?17:01
hallyn(i'm wondering whether your /etc/resolv.conf is just not right)17:01
hallyncan you pastebin the output of 'brctl show'?17:01
hallynas well as 'ifconfig -a', 'netstat -nr' from the host, and 'netstat -nr' from vm117:02
hallyn(at your convenience :)17:02
LinuxAdminok17:03
LinuxAdminjust a minute17:03
LinuxAdminhallyn: the link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/443436/17:11
RyanPDoes anyone have experience having nagiosgrapher graph things from statd? Specificlly, I'm trying to get a graph of the data reported from check_load_statd.17:13
LinuxAdminhallyn: do you see anything wrong?17:13
hallynLinuxAdmin: well you have br1 containting only eth1, which appears to be unconfigured17:17
hallynwhere is eth1 supposed to lead?17:18
hallyni suspect if you hook vm1 up to virbr0 instead of br1, it'll "just work"17:18
hallyn(and i suspect you want to just get rid of br1 altogether)17:19
hallyn(leaving it there won't cause problems, just be confusing)17:19
LinuxAdminbut I want to use bridge, and I should point bridge interface to physical interface br1 --> eth117:19
* ccheney wondering where his ac repairman is at17:20
hallynbut eth0 is the configured netif17:20
hallynor not?17:20
hallynoh, i see.17:20
LinuxAdmineth0 is an interface used to a private lan, just to synchronize share storage17:20
hallynso is 194.79.75.210 your real external ip?17:20
LinuxAdminyes17:20
LinuxAdminif I want outside world connect VMs without nat, I mean directly, I should configure bridge17:21
hallynyes17:21
diagoI installed a debian guest and did not use the --accelerate falg, can I enable it some where in the xml file?17:22
LinuxAdminotherwise I have to make nat roules17:22
LinuxAdminrules, I mean17:22
LinuxAdminand every manuals tells me to make bridge this way17:22
diagoLinuxAdmin: yes you need a bridge, what ubuntu release are u using17:23
LinuxAdminand it seams that is working because I can communicate with bridge interface ip from the outside world17:23
LinuxAdmin9.1017:23
hallyn(sorry, having troubles of my own, metacity hanging)17:24
LinuxAdminI've read a lot on the internet, and I saw an article that says ubuntu 9.10 is getting problems with this17:24
hallynLinuxAdmin: you can't ping outside world by ip address either?17:24
LinuxAdminno17:24
LinuxAdminit's not a dns issue17:25
LinuxAdminI can't even ping an ip of the same network17:25
LinuxAdminI mean, in the same switch17:25
hallynLinuxAdmin: i did use 9.10 with virtio over bridge, but i had to forward bridge to wireless card so wasn't exactly the same setup17:25
diagoLinuxAdmin: can you pastie your /etc/network/interfaces17:26
LinuxAdminyeh17:26
LinuxAdminok17:26
diagoI use 9.10 host with bridges guests all the time17:26
LinuxAdminjust a minute17:26
LinuxAdmindo you want /etc/network/interfaces from the host or from the VM17:27
LinuxAdmin?17:27
LinuxAdminI'll post both17:27
LinuxAdminjust wait17:27
hallynLinuxAdmin: the last thing looking suspicious to me is that your gw on vm is .209, not .21017:27
hallynmight be right, but i would have thought the br1 ipaddr woudl be the right value17:27
SpamapShallyn: btw, welcome! :)17:28
hallynSpamapS: thx17:29
LinuxAdminhere is the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/443449/17:33
LinuxAdminsorry for delay but I can't copy/past from VM17:34
LinuxAdminI'm using virt-manager and mouse does not work there :)17:34
LinuxAdminany ideia?17:35
LinuxAdmindiago: do you use karmic guests?17:36
LinuxAdmindiago: do I have to configure any firewall rule to forward traffic between interfaces?17:39
LinuxAdminI haven't try that yet17:39
ElbNerdhey y'all! i want to change the path a symbolic link points to WITHOUT deleting it. i tried the following and somehow it failed http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/398435/ <- do you folks have an idea?17:43
LinuxAdmindiago: are you still there?17:45
oru_workcould someone have a look at this http://pastebin.linode.com/390217:47
oru_worki do have apache2 installed17:47
Picioru_work: What are you trying to do?17:48
LowValueTargetIs Munin relatively light weight?17:48
oru_workPici, sudo /usr/bin/perl install-module.pl mod_perl217:49
Picioru_work: mod_perl2 is in the repos, why are you trying to install it from scratch?17:50
oru_workPici, i'm following the isntallation guide17:50
Picioru_work: What guide?17:50
oru_workPici, bugzilla17:50
oru_workPici, i tried apt-get install mod_perl2 , can't find package :)17:51
Picioru_work: its libapache2-mod-perl217:51
Picioru_work: Installing these packages from source means that you will not get updates on them when they become available and will render your install somewhat unsupportable.17:52
oru_workPici, i didn't know that17:53
Picioru_work: If you really feel that you need to install bugzilla from source, I highly suggest that you install its dependencies from the packages available in the repositories.17:54
oru_workPici, well right now here is what i see, thanks to you i got the last bit piece of it and ready to go on with my isntallation http://pastebin.linode.com/390317:54
oru_workPici, well they are already installed, what do you suggest at this point ?17:54
irkis it just me or do none of the "Store" images work on UEC 10.04?17:55
pmatulisPici, oru_work: even better, install the bugzilla3 package  :)17:56
oru_workpmatulis, :)17:56
oru_workinstalling17:57
oru_work80 mb of space :)17:57
Ast001hello I have problem with ssh I get this error PEM_read_PrivateKey failed and I am sure private key is at right place on server.18:04
Ast001I am trying to connect to Ubuntu 8.04 from my Ubuntu 10.04 and I did everything online manual said18:04
RyanPDoes anyone have experience having nagiosgrapher graph things from statd? Specifically, I'm trying to get a graph of the data reported by check_load_statd.18:05
Ast001for pdfedit sudo apt-get install pdfedit18:11
pmatuliszul: wondering why bug 564920 was declined for lucid18:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 564920 in php5 "PHP5 under Apache2 on 64 bit system is not completely 64 bit " [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56492018:14
zulpmatulis: because its not fixed in maverick18:15
pmatuliszul: can you elaborate? no SRU possible?18:16
oru_workPici, is request tracker in ubuntu repos ?18:17
zulpmatulis: because i havent had a chance to look at it properly. usually once its fixed in the development release i usually open an SRU18:17
pmatuliszul: gotcha18:17
webPragmatisthrmm18:18
webPragmatistwhere can i find info on how to setup heartbeat resources18:19
webPragmatistlike for postgresql18:19
zulpmatulis: if you want to try to fix it...be my guest :)18:19
Picioru_work: Yes: the package name in lucid is request-tracker3.818:19
webPragmatisti'm looking around can't find what i need18:19
webPragmatistoh wait nm got it18:20
webPragmatistPath PostgreSQL data directory. (optional, string, default /var/lib/pgsql/data) << that's annoying18:20
webPragmatistwhy wouldn't it default to PG_DATA18:20
webPragmatistglobal var18:20
pmatuliszul: will do18:21
pmatuliszul: ;)18:22
oru_workPici, just finished installation now sure whats next, what would be he url in the browser ?18:26
Picioru_work: I'm not sure, I've never installed bugzilla myself.18:30
looki have a probelm with ubuntu enterprise server, im trying to set it up with Eucalyptus but my Node does not see the Cluster. Ive checked to see if they are on the same subnet and they have there own class B ip18:33
Dejihggdh : ping18:37
hggdhdeji I am here18:37
ccheneyac repairman here now, and working on the unit :-)18:37
oru_workPici, i'm really having trouble locating it :)18:37
hggdhccheney: COOL! Er, not yet, I mean great!18:38
ccheneyhggdh, yep soon :)18:38
* look sobs and runs for a corner18:38
Dejihggdh : hey, i talked to kirkland and he said i have trouble with cc and the logs were not registering18:38
Dejihggdh : were u able to access the systems?18:38
Picioru_work: I'd start by looking in /etc/apache2/conf.d/18:39
ccheney28C and rising in the house, so it will be good to have this done before the hot part of the day18:39
hggdhDeji: yes, I was. Also, it seems to be working now18:39
kirklandhggdh: i'm on the phone at the moment, and hoping you might be able to help deji with his test rig18:39
kirklandhggdh: this was a package-based uec install18:39
kirklandhggdh: the components are registered, but the nodes are not18:39
hggdhkirkland: they are now18:39
kirklandhggdh: the problem, as i see it, is that the CC is not quite running all the way18:39
kirklandhggdh: hmm...18:40
oru_workPici, nope nothing there18:40
kirklandAVAILABILITYZONE        |- m1.small     0000 / 0000   1    192     218:40
hggdhkirkland: that was my feeling also.18:40
hggdhohhh18:40
hggdhbad18:40
kirklandhggdh: can you help deji debug this?18:41
oru_workPici, i have /usr/share/request-tracker3.818:41
hggdhkirkland: will do. Deji see also https://pastebin.canonical.com/32887/18:42
Picioru_work: Oh, I thought you were talking about bugzilla.. one moment.18:43
oru_workPici, no RT3.8 now :)18:44
oru_workPici, bugzilla i found easy it was mydomain.com/bugzilla3/18:44
oru_workPici, now i'm having trouble locating login url for request-tracker818:44
Dejihggdh : its working now, thanks a lot. Its registered18:44
Picioru_work: domain.com/rt perhaps?18:45
oru_workPici, tried it nope18:45
hggdhDeji: but still euca-describe-availability-zones verbose lists 018:45
hggdhDeji: of course, the NCs are not registered yet18:46
Picioru_work: before I look further, can you check /rt3 ?18:47
hggdhDeji: ceylon states a system restart is required. Were package updates installed there?18:47
Dejihggdh : i think so would do a reboot on that system now18:48
hggdhDeji: OK. Are you driving the reboot, or you want me to do it?18:48
Dejihggdh : i'll do it, thanks18:48
hggdhDeji: roj18:49
oru_workPici, i checked rt3 , not found18:49
* ccheney will be in his attic for a bit with the repairman, will check for messages when i get back18:50
Picioru_work: Okay, looks like you may need to symlink one of the conf files from /etc/request-tracker3.8/ into /etc/apache2/conf.d/ then18:51
PiciAnd then it will be located at /rt18:51
oru_workPici, symlink? i don't understand18:52
Picioru_work: like: sudo ln -s /etc/request-tracker3.8/apache2-modperl2.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/18:53
oru_workPici, :)18:54
oru_workPici, should i run this command ?18:54
Picioru_work: yes.18:54
oru_workPici, okay I did18:55
oru_workPici, i tried url.com/rt still not found18:55
Picioru_work: Okay, restart apache first.18:55
Picioru_work: sudo service apache2 restart18:55
oru_work* Restarting web server apache218:56
oru_workapache2: Syntax error on line 233 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/conf.d/bugzilla3.conf: No such file or directory18:56
oru_work   ...fail!18:56
oru_workerrr18:56
oru_workbugzilla318:56
oru_work...18:56
oru_workI uninstalled it18:56
lookwith eucalyptus it says when i enter the "euca-describe-availability-zones verbose" it gives me this error 'EC2_ACCESS_KEY veriable must be set'18:57
lookcould i get some help with that?18:58
uvirtbotNew bug: #588605 in groovy (main) "Groovy package in Maverick should be 1.7.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58860518:58
oru_workhow would i specify line number in nano ?19:01
looki give up no one wants to help19:03
pmatulissommer: the server guide does not mention nfsv4, any reason why?19:05
sommerpmatulis: no specific reason... the nfs section could be updated19:07
sommerpmatulis: contributions welcome :)19:07
pmatulissommer: alright.  i thought there might be another reason19:07
RoyKsomething seems to be rather bad in 10.04 - just had to reboot this server after the _kernel_ ate half its memory. I stopped all memory-hungry processes and ps axfv showed very low usage. Still, there was ~32GB used19:11
RoyKand, no, this was not buffers/cache19:12
pmatulisRoyK: what is the server doing?19:16
NativeAngelshello has anyone here used a sunfire v10019:18
Dejihggdh : ping19:18
hggdhDeji: go ahead19:19
Dejihggdh : hey please am trying to get the credentials for the clc using the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/PackageInstall19:20
Dejihggdh : i can't get on tamarillo using the web19:21
RoyKpmatulis: scientific models19:21
jimcooncatIs there a good writeup somewhere that describes advantages of ubuntu server over debian?19:21
RoyKpmatulis: but it shouldn't really matter, it's something in the kernel, not userspace19:21
Dejihggdh : since it is protected by a proxy batuan.canonical.com19:21
RoyKjimcooncat: it's mostly the same19:21
ccheneyover 45C+ in the attic with the plenum venting into it, would be much worse if it was closed up i'm sure19:22
hggdhDeji: you either have to use FoxyProxy, or set up a tunnel under ~/.ssh/config19:22
jimcooncatRoyK: I gathered that, I'm installing some new ones and want to figure out whether to use the new LTS or lenny with selected backports19:22
oru_workhow would i specify line number in nano ?19:23
RoyKjimcooncat: we're mostly using 8.04 so far19:23
pmatulishas anyone here increased the number of available file descriptors before?19:23
hggdhDeji: then you can access the UEC web admin via https://localhost:844319:23
RoyKjimcooncat: 10.04 is still fresh and fresh distros usually contain fresh bugs as well19:24
jimcooncatRoyK: I get that -- I usually wait a couple months after release19:24
hggdhDeji: for example on ~/.ssh/config, see https://pastebin.canonical.com/32874/19:24
hggdhDeji: you will have to adjust as needed, of course19:24
jimcooncatRoyK: I guess I'll have to look at the individual apps -- there were a few things on squeeze I would love to have, but I haven't the patience to play with anything non-stable19:26
RoyKjimcooncat: 10.04 is stable, though I've had a terribly strange problem with this 16 core box. suddenly the kernel was eating 32 gigs of RAM and the box was swapping wildly19:29
RoyKjimcooncat: I think it might be related to compcache, but don't know yet19:29
Dejihggdh : so when i create a ~/.ssh/config file, what next?19:29
oru_workPici, do you mind having a look at this http://pastebin.org/30148519:30
RoyKDeji: man ssh_config?19:30
jimcooncatRoyK: yikes! I've got three 4GiB boxes to set up in a very small office19:30
Picioru_work: try enabling mod_rewrite: sudo a2enmod rewrite19:31
RoyKjimcooncat: this one has 64 gigs of ram19:31
RoyKand since compcache was set to 50%, I guess that's the bad one19:32
RoyKthe models are quite memory-hungry as well, but no more than about 3GB per job, so it should run well, and it did for 16 days or so, until a couple of days ago19:32
jimcooncatRoyK: htop is my friend :-)19:33
RoyKwhat does htop do better than others?19:33
jimcooncatit's top with training wheels19:33
RoyKheh - I've been using linux since 1994 or so, I don't think I need training wheels :)19:34
jimcooncatI'm a bookkeeper and only admin on the side -- so sometimes I forget stuff I use only once in a while19:35
RoyKI'm a unix sysadmin :)19:36
webPragmatistand drbd experts around19:44
jimcooncatRoyK: It looks like ubuntu server is making itself a player in "cloud" computing, which I don't (think) I have need for. So I guess I'll go with lenny, unless there's someone else that can help point out an advantage19:47
RoyKjimcooncat: it doesn't do that unless you install it as a cloud node19:48
RoyKyou get that choice in the initial install menu (grub)¨19:49
jimcooncatRoyK: I haven't a clue what it's usefulness is. I use a linode for stuff I need on the net.19:49
RoyKit doesn't use any cloud stuff unless you specifically ask it to19:50
RoyKcalm down :)19:50
ScottKjimcooncat: If you look at the security hardening specs for Ubuntu Lucid and how much of that is implemented in Debian already, I think it shows a clear win for Ubuntu.19:51
Dejihggdh : ping19:51
jimcooncatNo, it's just that I've left a lot of comments on blogs, and forums asking what the cloud thing is all about, and I've not had much practical feedback. I'd see it's usefulness if it did async drbd or some other automatic failover thing19:52
ScottKjimcooncat: It's completely possible to entirely ignore the cloud stuff if you don't care.  It's what I do.19:52
webPragmatisthow can i tell with drbd which cluster is set to primary currently19:53
keesScottK, jimcooncat: for details on the security features, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features19:54
ScottKThanks.19:54
ScottKjimcooncat: Compare that with what is in Lenny.19:55
keesthe big things that Debian is missing is NX emulation, stack protector, PIE, fortify source, relro, bind now, and (i think) CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR19:55
keeswith some individual packages build with PIE, stack protector, fortify, relro, and bind now.19:55
kees(under 20, last I checked)19:56
jimcooncatthanks much, kees, ScottK. NX emulation != freenx stuff, correct?19:57
ScottKIt's explained on the wiki page.19:58
jimcooncatoh, found it.19:58
keesjimcooncat: that acronym is heavily overloaded, unfortunately.  I mean "non-executable memory", which goes by both XD and NX.19:58
oru_workPici, e2enmod rewrite helped, apache now restarts without error19:59
oru_workPici, going back to the URL for rt3.8, not sure what it is i tried mysite.com/rt and its not it19:59
webPragmatistHey guys20:08
ccheneyi think the ac repairman just dumped 15lb of freon into our house20:09
webPragmatistccheney: dude i lived in an apartment and they would just go around refilling them instead of fixing it20:09
RoyKccheney: nice for the indoor climate20:10
ccheneythere is so much in the house its cloudy20:10
webPragmatistdoes this look right20:10
webPragmatisthttp://pastie.textmate.org/private/7edo79qjnce191w8wsnea20:10
* ccheney wonders if it is safe for me to be in here, i sent my wife out immediately20:10
webPragmatisti'm having problems with getting the secondary going it seems20:11
webPragmatistwhen i start the secondary  and it is selected to be the current dc20:11
webPragmatisti get this20:11
webPragmatisthttp://pastie.textmate.org/private/f1nhragk7mch2smgnn18lq20:11
webPragmatistthis kinda sucks20:12
webPragmatisti don't know what to do20:12
RoyKccheney: it's probably not CFC unless the fridge or whatever it is, is really old20:13
jimcooncatwebPragmatist: your pastebin isn't working for me20:14
webPragmatistjimcooncat: hrm20:14
webPragmatistone sec20:14
webPragmatistlet me try something and i'll repaste after that20:14
ccheneyroyk: r22 whatever that is20:14
ccheneyroyk: the ac unit is about 6 years old, before the changeover to 40120:14
webPragmatistjimcooncat: heartbeat is supposed to mount it for you using Filesystem right?20:15
RoyKhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freon#Phase_out_of_CFCs20:15
jimcooncatwebPragmatist: I'm just lurking, I've only researched drbd, not implemented it yet20:15
ccheneyhmm i think i meant 410 is used now apparently :)20:15
RoyKCFCs are BAD20:16
ccheneygood thing i sent my wife out then, heh20:16
webPragmatisthrm20:16
webPragmatistdrbd is working find it's just Heartbeat that is hosed20:17
RoyKccheney: lol - they're only bad in the stratosphere...20:17
ccheney"Overexposure may cause dizziness, loss of concentration, Central Nervous System depression and/or cardiac arrhythmia." not sure if 15lb in a house is enough for that though20:17
ccheneyor just if you try huffing the stuff20:17
RoyKperhaps airing out would be a good idea....20:19
ccheneyyea i think i will once he is done, my wife is 9mo pregnant so i didn't want to risk any trouble for her20:20
hggdhalways good. Keep in mind that high concentrations will replace oxygen, so (apart from all else) oxygen starvation is a risk20:21
webPragmatistlol this thing keeps trying to promote and demote the drbd20:21
RoyKwebPragmatist: using heartbeat/pacemaker?20:23
webPragmatistyes20:23
webPragmatistit's like neither are Master20:23
webPragmatistso it's just like wtf promote promote promote20:23
webPragmatistit will say master for like a second but i think the promote fail20:24
webPragmatistfails*20:24
webPragmatistRoyK: have you done htis?20:25
RoyKno, but I'm working on a test setup20:25
RoyKprobably be finished in a few days if I get the time20:25
webPragmatisthttp://pastie.textmate.org/private/ynmooiesn2noryowbzl7ow20:25
pmatuliswebPragmatist: what do you intend to use this stuff for actually?20:25
webPragmatistan ecommerce site20:26
pmatuliswebPragmatist: is it something required now?  i'm asking b/c there is a new HA stack in the works20:26
webPragmatistare we talking days?20:26
webPragmatisti mean heartbeat has been around forever….20:27
RoyKI somehow doubt we're talking days20:27
webPragmatistyea20:27
RoyKmore like 10.1020:27
pmatuliswebPragmatist: yeah, and as you've seen.  it doesn't work very well20:27
webPragmatist201220:27
pmatulishttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-cluster-stack20:27
webPragmatisti'm just not doing something right20:27
webPragmatistbut yea we have already purchased the server20:28
webPragmatistso i need to make it do stuff20:28
pmatulisheh, is that directly from your boss' mouth?20:29
webPragmatistno i am the boss20:30
webPragmatistmy boss wouldn't understand20:30
pmatulisok20:30
webPragmatistbut i don't care to get involved in a server crashing…20:31
webPragmatistbecause it's my but20:31
webPragmatistbutt*20:31
webPragmatistokay question20:31
webPragmatisthttp://pastie.textmate.org/private/rjbtogxzgqbjtdvwc2bq20:31
pmatulisi remember trying to do the heartbeat/drdb thing.  stuff not starting, unpredicatble behaviour, etc20:31
Kyle__Not an ubuntu-server question as much as an ubuntu-client question, but I figured you folks may have experience with it.  I'm trying to get ubuntu-clients to connect to an ldap server, and they dont' seem to be reading their /etc/ldap.conf20:32
webPragmatistlocation loc-1 fs_drbd -inf: cluster220:32
webPragmatistlocation loc-2 drbd_disk -inf: cluster220:32
webPragmatistwhich host is supposed to be that?20:32
webPragmatistthe "opposite" that runs corosync?20:32
Kyle__If I run ldapsearch from one of the clients, I need to specify the server and base that are arleady specified in /etc/ldap.conf.  I'm guessing if I fix that, the rest of this should fall into place20:33
webPragmatisthrm20:33
webPragmatisti think all those meta tags shold be 120:33
Kyle__Anyone here with ubuntu+ldap experience who could lend a hand?20:35
pmatulisgrrr, should postfix really be a dependency of mdadm?20:37
Kyle__pmatulis: Probably not, but that's package based distros for you :)20:38
Kyle__pmatulis: if you already have sendmail or exim will it use those instead?  exim is tiny.20:38
RoyKpmatulis: probably "mta" is a dependency20:38
RoyKpmatulis: and postfix the first choice20:38
webPragmatisthttp://www.drbd.org/users-guide/s-pacemaker-floating-peers.html20:40
webPragmatistpmatulis: ^^20:40
webPragmatisthrm20:40
webPragmatisti'm trying to do that but the HA testing doesn't do that20:40
Freud_hi all20:41
Freud_noob queston, how do I remotely log into ubuntu from cold start?20:42
jimcooncatFreud_: I'm not sure that's possible, due to nothing listening by default. You'd have to set up something like openssh-server.20:43
Kyle__Does anyone here know how to get ldap-users to appear in the login screen on 10.4?20:46
webPragmatistpmatulis: it seems they get out of sync or something20:47
webPragmatistdamn spoke too soon or something20:50
incorrectwhat is the difference between using kvm and eucalyptus?20:57
webPragmatistone is an herbal remedy21:00
webPragmatistanyone atleast just use drbd?21:00
incorrectyep21:01
incorrecti use it all the time21:01
RoyKwebPragmatist: give me a few days, and I'll know21:02
ccheneyyipee, ac is now working, and starting to cool the place down a bit21:02
ccheneyfeels extra cool to me as i was up in a 50C attic for part of the time21:03
webPragmatistincorrect: what if my nodes are stuf on WFConnection?21:04
webPragmatiststuck*21:04
ccheneymight have even been higher than that, i just noticed my thermometer doesn't measure over that21:04
incorrectwebPragmatist, not had that problem,  last time i trashed it i did a full rebuild21:04
webPragmatistincorrect: well… that's not very confident21:06
webPragmatistif your drbd goes down… do you just find another job lol21:06
incorrecti take it you haven't read the manual21:06
incorrectand what full rebuild means21:07
webPragmatistguess not21:08
webPragmatistbut i think i just did whatever a full rebuild is lol21:08
webPragmatistbasically i invalidated the secondary… and reconnected21:08
webPragmatistit's sinking now21:08
webPragmatistsynching rather21:09
incorrectyou should rtfm21:09
webPragmatistyou should diaf21:09
Kyle__has anyone here successfully setup ldap authentication with Ubuntu 10.04?21:09
incorrectKyle__, sure i have it running over many nodes21:09
Kyle__incorrect: Did you need to do anything special to get the users to appear in the login list?21:10
Kyle__incorrect: I can login via console, but not via gui.21:10
incorrectoh that is a PitA21:10
incorrectyou can either install nscd21:10
incorrector you can edit /etc/networks/interfaces and make sure the interface comes up fast21:11
incorrectalso you will need to restart gdm first21:11
Kyle__I think that got installed as part of my futzing aroudn to get ldap authentication working.21:11
Kyle__nscd that is.21:11
Dejikirkland : ping21:15
incorrectwish i could figure out what is causing win7 under kvm to crash on shutdown21:16
kirklandDeji: hey21:16
kirklandDeji: okay, made some progress on your cloud21:16
kirklandDeji: got the cc registered and working21:16
kirklandDeji: and your NC registered and working21:16
kirklandDeji: however, your NC has VT disabled in BIOS21:16
kirklandDeji: so you need to go into BIOS on that system and enable virtualization21:17
kirklandDeji: on your NC, try running "kvm-ok"21:17
Dejikirkland : kvm is diabled on the nc21:18
kirklandDeji: yeah; you need to attach to the console, reboot, go into bios, enable it, and hard poweroff/poweron again21:18
kirklandDeji: then your cloud should be operation21:19
incorrectwhat does UEC use ?21:19
kirklandDeji: we'll need to document this21:19
incorrectif anyone is interested, if you want windows 32bit to run nicely give it a arch='x86_64' not i68621:31
incorrectdamn that was frustrating21:31
metalf88011I can't remember  a very important mysql command that is used to change the default settings to make it more secure I think _secure is even part of the command does anyone know what I'm talking about or have I just lost it?21:46
qman__if making it "secure" was one simple command, it would make no sense to not have that be the default21:52
webPragmatisthrm21:53
metalf88011true21:53
webPragmatistanyone know why heartbeat would lose quorum but not try to start the resources21:53
metalf88011um it removes the default settings like remote access21:54
metalf88011also its one command but there are a few steps to it21:54
qman__remote access is not enabled by default21:54
qman__mysql listens on a local unix socket out of the box21:54
qman__you have to configure it otherwise to enable remote access21:54
metalf88011does mysql come with like an example database?21:55
metalf88011I know I'm not wording that right21:55
qman__it has a built-in database which handles users and permissions21:56
qman__but there is not an included 'starter' database or anything like that21:56
metalf88011thanks for trying to help me  qman__21:59
metalf88011I'm going to have see if there's anyway I can  get into my old notes that were on the schools server most likely not :(22:00
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dominicdinadawhat is this refering to it cant remove LAMP ????? tasksel: aptitude failed (100)22:34
kirklandhallyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors/Scripts22:35
X-Sleepy-Xi would be careful with tasksel remove22:36
X-Sleepy-Xi used it earlier today and it has a bug22:36
dominicdinadawhat is this refering to it cant remove LAMP ????? tasksel: aptitude failed (100)22:36
X-Sleepy-Xdeleted many packages which it shouldnt delete22:36
kirklandhallyn: my mirror is a lenovo q100 "nettop" box, with an internal 500GB hard drive22:36
dominicdinada hmmm22:36
kirklandhallyn: tiny little dual 1.6GHz atom processor thing, with 2GB of memory, and 500GB disk, but does actually have gigabit ethernet22:37
dominicdinadathe hell... I am trying to get rid of Apache,php, etc from the aptitude and use the package from ApacheFriends22:37
X-Sleepy-Xdominicdinada: are u running lucid?22:37
dominicdinadaYes.22:38
X-Sleepy-Xhang on then22:38
dominicdinadaok22:38
hallynkirkland: and how much of that 500G is taken up by the mirror?22:38
* kirkland checks ....22:38
kirklandhallyn: i also mirror about a dozen or so of the daily ISOs too22:39
hallynhm, did they have that thing at frys?22:39
hallynyeah i'd want those too i recon22:39
kirklandhallyn: /dev/sda6             449G  367G   59G  87% /mirror22:39
hallynheh, cuttin' it close :)22:39
kirklandhallyn: they do have them at fry's;  on sale, they're $17922:39
dominicdinadawww.pricewatch.com you cant beat their pricewatch. Its like the stockmarket for computers22:39
kirklandhallyn: yeah, that includes the full mirror, plus the ISOs i copy22:40
kirklandhallyn: 7.0G    /mirror/iso/22:40
hallyni was figuring i'd just do a usb drive though22:40
kirklandhallyn: let me warn you about a couple of things wrt to the lenovo nettop ...22:40
X-Sleepy-Xdominicdinada: Ok, I installed LAMP earlier today with tasksel, these packages were installed, you could remove them with apt-get remove22:40
X-Sleepy-Xhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/443581/22:40
kirklandhallyn: a) the graphics is crap, no accelerated graphics upstream yet SiS crap22:40
hallyn(s'ok my monitors are in another state)22:41
dominicdinadaok i am looking22:41
kirklandhallyn: b) it comes with 1GB of DDR2 desktop memory, which I upped to a 2GB stick, since I had a spare22:41
kirklandhallyn: c) it comes with 160GB hard disk, which I also upped to 500GB, since I had one of those too22:41
hallynyou dont' use it as a pc at all though, right?22:41
kirklandhallyn: you might do better to just spend $75 and get an external drive and attach to another system22:41
hallynyeah, that's what i'm thinking22:42
kirklandhallyn: if you go the external drive route, I recommend getting a laptop size one, so that you can travel with it if you want22:42
kirklandhallyn: having a full mirror on a plane is fun :-)22:42
hallyn:)22:42
hallynmy laptop won't last long on a plane though22:42
kirklandhallyn: your sony?22:42
hallyn8 cpus, but only a few hours of batt life22:42
hallynyeah22:42
hallynnot that i've tested it22:42
hallynhaven't even had time to set up the nvidia to work with compositing (so i'm using dwm, bc metacity locks up)22:43
X-Sleepy-XGotta config php.ini...22:44
X-Sleepy-XBoring...22:44
dominicdinadabefore I do this Why would 100% working sites fail it is like URI parser is not working for instance with a codeigniter application i am getting all of these 404s22:45
hallynkirkland: so you just do a release mirror?22:45
dominicdinadano matter what link I click on it does not work!22:46
kirklandhallyn: no, not quite ...22:46
theacolyteMy undestanding is that sun-jdk is provided by deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid multiverse - is that not the case?22:47
kirklandhallyn: i think ubumirror should do most of what you need22:47
kirklandhallyn: i do an archive mirror22:47
kirklandhallyn: plus a handful of rsync's on the key ISOs i want from cdimage.ubuntu.com22:47
theacolyteah, looks like add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"22:48
hggdhkirkland: can I have the QA document for Dell? I would like to see what will be tested there22:58
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webPragmatisthow do i stop a crm resource or even delete one… crm_resouce is frickin confusing23:02
dominicdinadabefore I do this Why would 100% working sites fail it is like URI parser is not working for instance with a codeigniter application i am getting all of these 404s23:02
dominicdinadano matter what link I click on it does not work!23:02
webPragmatistoh nm i had to delete the entire group23:02
pwnguinwhere does logrotate ... log to?23:25
pwnguini set up a logrotate job to run mysqldump23:28
pwnguinbut i haven't seen any action yet23:28
webPragmatisthow do i delete an ms type resource with crm_resource23:44
webPragmatisti tried crm_resource -D -r ms_drbd -t ms23:44
WyleyrabbitHi everyone23:45
Wyleyrabbiton a running ubuntu 10.04 LTS server, is there an easy way of adding/configuring a software RAID5 array using some sort of menu-driven software, like in the initial installation of ubuntu?23:47
webPragmatistnm23:50
Wyleyrabbitanyone here?23:55
sjmwyleyrabbit: nope23:56

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