[00:18] <pleia2> akgraner: taking your fridge/blog post and copying to the wiki so we can update it for WPD winners - somehow the date "2008" got in there rather than 2010 for the date of Jono's cast
[00:18] <pleia2> "Jono Bacon announced the winners of the 1st Annual Ubuntu Women World Play Day competition via his UStreamTV cast on Friday, May 28th 2008"
[00:19] <pleia2> 2008 wasn't a great year, don't make me go back!
[00:19] <maco> im guessing it was from the number 28 :P
[00:19] <rww> The wiki also still says "GO SUBMIT YOUR VOTES! for the World Play Day Competition." on the front page, if you're taking edit requests ;P
[00:19] <Pendulum> and akgraner's pain medication
[00:19] <pleia2> rww: yep, I'm writing this page so I can update all that :)
[00:19] <rww> oh, okay :)
[00:20] <akgraner> pleia2, yeah please fix anything that is broken ;-)
[00:20] <akgraner> or am I the only one who can fix it
[00:20] <pleia2> I am a fridge admin, I can probably fix the fridge post
[00:21] <pleia2> I'm putting 2010 on the fridge version (just uploading pictures now)
[00:21] <akgraner> ok cool
[00:21] <akgraner> thank you
[00:22] <akgraner> I wonder how that got there
[00:22] <akgraner> jeez I better check my blog
[00:23] <akgraner> pleia2, well that would explain it
[00:23] <czajkowski> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/06/01/the-motivational-drivers-and-barriers-of-volunteers-in-open-source-communities/
[00:23] <akgraner> but wonder why no one saw that before now - sigh
[00:23] <akgraner> :-P
[00:24] <akgraner> bbiab
[00:26] <pleia2> fixed on the fridge, and we now have http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/WorldPlayDay/Winners2010
[00:30] <pleia2> and updated the front page of our wiki
[00:37] <pleia2> elky: do we want to upload all submission to a page on the wiki so it's not forever referencing your site?
[00:38] <pleia2> (dumped in an images/wpd101/ directory off of ubuntu-women.org itself is fine too)
[00:38] <pleia2> er, images/wpd2010 too
[00:38] <pleia2> we're all so great with numbers here
[00:40] <elky> elky, eventually yes
[00:43] <pleia2> eventually is an acceptable answer :)
[00:44] <elky> also,
[00:44]  * elky hugs pleia2
[00:44]  * pleia2 hugs
[00:44] <pleia2> :)
[00:44] <pleia2> for all your work this weekend! sorry I wasn't around, darn life getting in the way
[00:45] <pleia2> but my storage units are all primed, they look lovely and much less like concrete dungeons
[00:45] <elky> yep, how's the painting going?
[00:45] <elky> whee
[00:45] <pleia2> next weekend the real painting!
[01:44] <LowResolution> why did Ubunterd 10.04 have to break Intel video support?
[01:45] <JanC> Ubuntu didn't break intel video
[01:46] <LowResolution> well
[01:46] <LowResolution> it worked before
[01:47] <LowResolution> what kind of project are you broads running here anyways
[01:49] <pleia2> LowResolution: please don't call us "broads", and the project information is in the /topic
[01:51] <LowResolution> boring
[01:51] <LowResolution> r u nude
[01:55] <MichelleQ> oh yay
[02:01] <Pendulum> MichelleQ: can I PM you for a sec?
[02:04] <valorie> nude computing, ha
[02:04] <Pendulum> apparently he's in quite a few channels
[02:05] <Pendulum> and I suspect getting banned one-by-one in them
[02:05] <nigelb> lol
[02:06] <Pendulum> although in the other one I'm in he then confused us all by calling me a "berd"
[02:06] <Pendulum> which as far as I can tell is a region in Armenia
[02:06] <valorie> perhaps he meant bard
[02:06] <valorie> :-)
[02:06] <Pendulum> I suspect he can't spell "bird", but I'll take "bard" :-)
[02:07] <valorie> lol
[02:08] <Pendulum> oh, no, urban dictionary has proved me wrong. there are several slang meanings, not all negative and not all inappropriate
[02:08] <Pendulum> I think I shall assume he was calling me a book nerd
[02:08]  * Pendulum nods
[02:10] <MichelleQ> Pendulum: yes maam
[02:11] <valorie> berd/bard would be a good mix
[02:11] <valorie> a bird berd bard, even more so
[02:11] <valorie> lol
[02:11] <MichelleQ> lol
[07:38] <dholbach> good morning
[09:23] <issyl0> airurando_, AlanBell: no one hangs out in #ubuntu-youth ;)
[09:23] <issyl0> Pendulum: !
[09:23] <issyl0> Pendulum: ping me when you're around please.
[09:24] <issyl0> :)
[09:34] <AlanBell> issyl0: interesting. Do you think that is something that needs fixing?
[09:36] <issyl0> AlanBell: yes.
[09:36] <issyl0> Definitely.
[09:38] <AlanBell> ok, is there any background on #ubuntu-youth and what it is for, age ranges, aims etc?
[09:38] <elky> Yeah, it definitely does. There's been a few attempts, but it mostly turns in to "oh, you're a teen with your own computer and your parents let you install linux? me too!" followed by twiddling of thumbs, rinse, repeat
[09:39] <elky> AlanBell, it appeared after one of the first ubuntu-women open week sessions. I think the one dinda was scheduled for but I held because she got caught in traffic or somthing.
[09:39] <AlanBell> found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuYouth
[09:41] <AlanBell> teen seems a bit old to me
[09:41] <elly> I do not see why teens would go there instead of just #ubuntu
[09:41] <elky> There was a bit of "but im a kid and nobody takes me seriously when i want to help" in the session, so I suggested they start it and the channel quickly appeared. We tried to pull it in to ubuntuforall but that didn't take off either for lack of input
[09:41] <AlanBell> elly: yeah, or loco channels
[09:41] <elky> elly, by teens we're talking 13yrolds
[09:42] <elky> who really do get treated like silly little kids sometimes
[09:42] <elly> hmm
[09:42] <elly> okay, I did not have that experience when I was younger and on IRC, but I buy that
[09:42] <rww> to a certain extent, if they didn't do stuff that made it obvious they were silly little kids...
[09:42] <rww> although I guess the "don't tell people your age" thing has faded somewhat with the advent of facebook :<
[09:43] <AlanBell> we don't have much of an issue treating people over the age of about 14 as equals in the loco channels
[09:44] <elky> well not just that, mockery when "aww, dad says I have to get off the computer now"
[09:49] <Tm_T> we are talking about this? https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youth
[09:49] <elky> yes
[09:50] <Tm_T> hmm, cannot remember why I did join the team, but I believe there was a good reason
[09:50] <rww> Tm_T: Were you being ironic ;P?
[09:50] <Tm_T> rww: no, seriously
[09:50] <AlanBell> the forum says it is for under 18 and there is a how old are you thread http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=286
[09:51] <hypatia> when i was 13 i would go on regular IRC servers with MS Comic Chat
[09:51] <hypatia> i was a jerk :p
[09:51] <rww> hah
[09:51]  * elky tries to refrain
[09:51] <rww> I was a webforum moderator in a number of places and messed around on h2g2 :\
[09:53] <elky> issyl0, menza is often on IRC, you could poke him or memoserv him and ask to take over as admin I guess.
[09:53] <AlanBell> when I was 14 the web was invented
[09:54] <elky> jpds is also listed as admin
[09:54] <Tm_T> when I was 14, soviet russia invented you
[09:54] <Tm_T> ...ok, that didn't come out as intended
[09:54] <AlanBell> Tm_T: made me laugh
[09:55] <Tm_T> I often say to little kids who asks my age that I'm 6 and a half years old, as I haven't gone thru pre-school
[09:56] <AlanBell> so what I would like is a safe space (yes really, one of them) for my kids to talk to other children of geeks like me and you
[09:56] <AlanBell> I really think that the teenagers should be in the loco channels and if there are issues with that then they should be dealt with
[09:57] <Tm_T> agreed
[09:57] <rww> it would be nice to have a space for them. comes with the problem that kids don't make good ops :\
[09:57] <AlanBell> rww: adult ops
[09:57] <Tm_T> rww: kids don't have to be ops themselves
[09:57] <AlanBell> which you can't really do in a teenager channel
[09:57] <rww> yeah, but that has problems too. kids really like rebelling :(
[09:57] <rww> but i may be being pessimistic
[09:58] <Tm_T> usually they don't have to rebel if you get them involved on maintaining the order
[09:58] <Tm_T> just avoid "olds vs us youngs"
[09:58] <rww> true
[09:59] <Tm_T> noone say it would be easy but
[10:04] <AlanBell> maybe ubuntu-youth is doing OK as it is and what I actually want is ubuntu-younglings
[10:05] <rww> make sure to set +b anakin!*@* if you do that
[10:06] <AlanBell> important safety tip, thanks!
[10:06] <elly> you only want to ban him if he's turned to the dark side, though
[10:07] <elly> so anakin!*@dark-side.the-force.net
[10:07] <Tm_T> but he's not anakin when he's on dark side
[10:08] <AlanBell> issyl0: what do you think?
[10:08] <AlanBell> err, not about anakin
[10:08] <rww> probably best to just +b *!*@dark-side.the-force.net, tbh
[10:09] <rww> they're all a bunch of trolls :(
[10:20] <issyl0> Ah yes.
[10:20] <issyl0> Ok
[10:20] <issyl0> elky: aah
[10:20]  * issyl0 spoke to him the other day, though not about #u-y.
[11:06] <czajkowski> issyl0: aloha
[11:08] <issyl0> czajkowski: hi
[11:08] <issyl0> czajkowski: I'm just off actually.
[11:08]  * issyl0 wil be back later.
[11:08]  * issyl0 has to tidy up
[11:09] <Pendulum> issyl0: ping
[15:57] <AlanBell> ]/window 24
[15:59] <jussi> fail :P
[16:00] <AlanBell> yes, I am full of it
[16:28]  * nigelb watches the ping pong game between Pendulum and issyl0 going on over the past few days
[16:29] <nigelb> wonder if we should get the popcorn ready :p
[16:29] <Pendulum> that reminds me
[16:29] <Pendulum> issyl0: did you ever see my pong?
[16:29] <issyl0> MichelleQ: hha
[16:30] <issyl0> Erm.
[16:30] <issyl0> nigelb: haha
[16:30] <issyl0> Pendulum: hi :)
[16:30] <Pendulum> or did I miss a response while my net was down?
[16:30] <issyl0> Pendulum: I did not... :/
[16:30] <nigelb> Finally, they connect :p
[16:30] <Pendulum> issyl0: take this to PM?
[16:30] <issyl0> Pendulum: yep sure
[16:32] <nigelb> issyl0: Great to see you on full circle btw :)
[16:39] <issyl0> nigelb: :D
[16:39] <issyl0> nigelb: thanks
[16:39] <issyl0> It's great to be on there.  A sense of achievement.  :)
[16:41] <nigelb> Yes it is. :)
[17:07] <AlanBell> s/sense of//
[17:08] <AlanBell> and An rather than A for better grammar