[00:03] yofel: atm I can't install mplayer [00:07] mplayer: [00:07] Installed: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-1ubuntu16+medibuntu1 [00:12] Howdy fellas and gals... I was wondering if someone have had the fortune to get zeroinstall to be able to install anything from the rox-project on ubuntu+1 because it does not seem to like me at all at lucid, and was wondering if an upgrade of some sort would help alleviate that problem? [00:13] I have mplayer installed here, but something else held back on updates instead [00:13] judgen: I have no idea, but would suggest a liveCD/VM to test [00:14] arand: can you install apps on an live cd nowdays? [00:14] judgen: As always, until you run out of memory of course [00:14] you can install apps on a live usb [00:14] oh yeah.. how silly of me. [00:14] I will try that then. [00:15] It won't be persistent, unless you have a persistent usb, of course [00:15] !daily [00:15] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [00:16] i usually get the images from sunet.se, faster and they keep them very well up to date. [00:18] Thanks for the help though. [01:28] cwillu stop messing with it. you gonna break it http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2010/06/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-coder---part-8.html [01:49] * cwillu yawns [01:50] if you don't know why it works, it's not working [01:51] * cwillu prints it out and pins it to his wall [01:53] * cwillu pokes it with a stick [01:55] :) [02:00] there is an X bug it is widely seen and has a workaround using the edger PPA anyone have that bug number? [02:14] * gnomefreak hopes this works [02:14] BUGabundo, what chromium ppa are you using? [02:14] daily for me [02:15] daily [02:16] haven't tried chromium for about 2 cycles now...how does it work with flash? [02:16] there's flash? [02:16] do you need it? [02:16] :p [02:16] i havent had a problem with it however i havent had X in a while either [02:17] yay i have a mouse again im half way to having X again :) [02:18] ok ill be back soon. i am updating alot of packages ~200 after adding new PPA's [02:18] have fun [02:25] arand: are you busy or can i get a bug # from you ;) [02:25] gnomefreak: off to bed in a bit, but got a minute or so ...? [02:26] how can i be a beta tester for ubuntu [02:26] arand: the bug you gave to mininessie last night an X bug in ~~ [02:26] mininessie: you are using maverick? [02:26] gnomefreak: yes [02:26] mininessie: THen you are ;) [02:26] and its pre beta but you are doing it. just file bugs on the problems you have [02:27] * gnomefreak trying to get X back so i can get stuff done [02:27] gnomefreak: you don't have your close minimize maximize [02:27] gnomefreak: Hmm, well, I don't actually remeber it, I've just been messing with metacity... [02:28] mininessie: i have no X so hard to tell :) [02:28] gnomefreak: x? [02:28] well i can say mine has nothing to do with metacity since im not using it [02:28] mininessie: i have no GUI [02:28] no pretty pictures [02:28] gnomefreak: haha [02:28] gnomefreak: That's another bug then I think, since mininessie had the metacity-CSD problem before.. not an X fail [02:29] arand: ah [02:29] arand: thanks [02:30] I've actually not heard of any common X fails before now, so I'm afraid I can't be much help... [02:30] Anyways, /me -> bed [02:31] night [02:31] * gnomefreak can fix it just hoping no tto spend alot of time on it [02:32] arand: not that way http://acidcow.com/pics/20100602/epic_fails_08.jpg [02:32] * ajmitch wonders how screwed up the maverick VM will be today [02:34] ajmitch: not sure about VM but Maverick didnt give me any issues until A1 was released [02:34] gnomefreak: is the alpha out yet [02:34] gnomefreak: I didn't realiase that the first alpha was released yet :) [02:35] i thought it was but if not than hell it started the other day maybe 4 days ago [02:35] * ajmitch isn't running it on real hardware yet [02:35] since I sort of need my laptop to work [02:36] i have enough boxes where i can have a broken one or 2 and not stop working [02:36] how can i install the global menu [02:36] mininessie: define global menu [02:36] what is it [02:36] gnomefreak: the one for UNR [02:36] ajmitch: poo [02:37] be a man.... run in on your main PC/Laptop [02:37] mininessie: not sure i dont have a name for it but BUGabundo should [02:37] what? [02:37] name for what? [02:37] BUGabundo: sorry, but I value having things just work for now [02:37] BUGabundo: global menu for UNR [02:38] ajmitch: everything other the gwibber works for me [02:38] gnomefreak: no idea [02:38] BUGabundo: it's the 'for me' part that's problematic [02:38] mininessie: you can search for it in repos but i would need more to go on [02:38] though I'll probably upgrade my desktop at home in the weekend [02:38] ajmitch: ahahah [02:38] I might even get wireless working again, since it's still not fixed for lucid :) [02:39] mininessie: is it a file browser? [02:40] gnomefreak: its the same one mac uses [02:40] gnomefreak: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/ubuntu-1010-application-menu-available.html [02:40] no idea if that's uploaded to maverick yet, what works, etc [02:41] cant copy and paste even with a mouse [02:41] mininessie: see the link ajmitch posted [02:41] be back lets see if i can get it working now [02:48] gnomefreak: you picked probably the worst time to do that, i just did a major transition with 100+ packages in edgers and you might have upgraded in the middle of it :) [02:49] alpha 1 out tomorrow? [02:50] ahaah [02:50] Sarvatt: murphys law? [02:52] Sarvatt: sounds fun, that's just in the ppa? [02:52] pretty much! there's nothing I can do about it, can't not publish the PPA during it because the packages build on top of each other. expect that kind of breakage in maverick here soon :) [02:53] sounds like the perfect time for me to upgrade my desktop at home [02:53] as long as nouveau still works :) [02:53] nouveau is working great here in edgers, replaced the blob already [02:54] Do you think there'll be any usable 3D support from it for 10.10? [02:54] yep it's already commited, need to work out some kinks though with the packaging for the distro though [02:55] usable & will be installed by default, or just an option for the insane? [02:55] just an option probably [02:55] I might try it out then & see if I can melt my card [02:55] if its installed by default we have to support it.. even upstream doesn't want bugs about it [02:56] but it works great, I think they just dont want bugs :) [02:56] I tried 3D last devel cycle for 2 weeks [02:56] worked very well [02:56] I think they reserve the right to do massive rewrites & break it all over the place [02:56] abeit slow and would mess compiz [02:56] 'slow and would mess compiz' != 'very well' in my book [02:56] yeah all the gallium stuff changes a crapload every week [02:57] ajmitch: it worked... way better then no 3D :) [02:57] it was not THAT slow. [02:57] just slower then blob [02:57] and only two compiz plugin had probs with it [02:57] swrast is a *ton* faster now in edgers with llvmpipe [02:57] how did it deal with playing a game that used a lot of textures? [02:58] I don't play games :) [02:58] ohh forgot one more MM bug: no video codecs [02:58] glad I still have mp3 [02:59] ajmitch: what did you mean by it's the perfect time to upgrade your desktop? [02:59] upgrade to edgers or upgrade to maverick? [03:00] if just edgers theres no real reason to use maverick yet, i'm uploading the same things both places [03:00] upgrade to maverick [03:00] because life is so boring having things work [03:00] (just have to manually install the kernel for nouveau) [03:00] yeah tell me about it! [03:00] plus I need to stop being lazy & actually do some work on maverick [03:02] ajmitch: ++1 [03:03] plenty of brokenness in maverick, the gtk2 changes broke a ton here [03:04] compiz is the only usable window manager, vmware that i need to test for packaging the 3D passthrough drivers is all transparent, etc [03:04] I thought metacity got fixed recently? [03:05] lets see [03:05] there's an update for it today, I saw mention of it being fixed in #u-desktop [03:06] \o/ glxgears doesn't crash it anymore [03:06] crashes mutter still [03:07] but i'm using a ppa version of that [03:20] Is there anything special to do when reporting bugs in Maverick? Like nominating them for release in Maverick? [03:20] besides adding the 'maverick' tag. [03:21] nop [03:21] just report them [03:21] cool. [03:21] all bugs should be filed against the most recent package version [03:21] stenten: you are using apport, correct? [03:22] It was just an idle question that came up on another channel. But yes, I would use apport to bug report :) [03:54] can somone create an as told by ginger theme for [03:54] me please [04:28] nite === pgraner is now known as pgraner-afk [04:36] just got this in an update...http://pastebin.ca/1876404 [04:36] look familiar to anyone? [05:25] billybigrigger: Bug #586132 [05:25] Launchpad bug 586132 in f-spot (Ubuntu) "Failed to parse default value `' for gconf schema" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586132 [05:26] So it'll be fixed in the next release. === gorgonizer is now known as gorgonizer_ === gorgonizer_ is now known as gorgonizer__ === gorgonizer__ is now known as gorgonizer_ === gorgonizer_ is now known as gorgonizer [10:42] anyone else with an eee pc? [10:46] Anyone who cannot connect to any wireless? :) [10:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/589093 [10:51] Ubuntu bug 589093 in linux (Ubuntu) "Cannot connect to any wireless" [Undecided,New] [11:17] Ian_Corne: I have one but not at hand right now, will test it later. [11:19] kk [11:45] plasma-desktop is unable to show the widgets after re-login in 4.5b (they're in the config file though) http://is.gd/cAR6P [11:45] [12:25] Ian_Corne, I have a Eee 1005HA with 10.04 UNE, and network on it is completely stuffed [12:26] ok [12:26] Ian_Corne, I was planning to fresh install maverick alpha 1 [12:26] also Fn keys are broken [12:26] I frech installed 2 days ago, to no avail [12:26] Ian_Corne, this is 10.10? [12:27] yes [12:27] :( [12:31] Hew: if your network is stuffed in lucid [12:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/496093 [12:32] Ubuntu bug 496093 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) "[lucid] rt2860 frequently fails to connect to mixed mode WPA/WPA2 secured wireless networks" [Medium,Triaged] === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity [13:48] Ian_Corne: StagingDrivers: rt2860sta [13:48] Ian_Corne: I'm on my 1000H now, wifi broken [13:48] wpa2 only [13:49] Unless you have a really new kernel, this driver is broken. its broken in lucid at least and im assuming early +1s as well. [13:49] and my card is called wlan1 now instead of wlan0 o.O [13:49] Alexia_Death_: it worked fine for me in lucid and 2.6.34-2 [13:50] 2.6.33 kernels should be ok. [13:52] My sister has an eee with this adapter and she updated while far away from me. Fortunately shes above avarage user so I managed instruct her in installing a ewer kernel than the repro one. [13:58] same yofel [13:59] meh, removed -2, let's see if it's still on the server... === pgraner-afk is now known as pgraner [14:03] nope :/ [15:08] alpha 1 http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Ubuntu-Maverick-Meerkat-Download-57327.html [15:14] is there a netbook remix yet? [15:18] nevermind, found it [15:25] hm. I have problems running evince. apt-get install -t maverick evince bricked my evince: EvinceDocument-WARNING **: Error opening directory '/usr/lib/evince/2/backends': No such file or directory :-( [15:27] Anyone using mpd able to confirm this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpd/+bug/588253 [15:27] Ubuntu bug 588253 in mpd (Ubuntu) "mpd: error while loading shared libraries: libavcodec.so.52" [Undecided,New] [15:27] Oh someone already pressed the "affects me too" button... [15:28] huh... except I'm actually getting the error with libavutil.so.49 instead now ⢁| [15:29] muelli: what if you create that directory and try again? [15:30] z0rt|work: dunno. I actually expect Evince to look for files in that directory. But I'll try. [15:34] z0rt|work: well. then "nothing" happens. i.e. evince immediately exists. probably because there are no backends ;-) [15:35] haha [15:35] well at least you got rid of the error message hehe [15:35] lol [15:36] kinda like: "Woot! No bugs! It doesn't do anything, but no bugs!" [15:37] yeah :\ [15:38] well that is the beauty of alphas you have all sorts of new bugs to dig up :D [15:39] As someone said last night, stable is no fun :D [15:40] meh, video playback is so broken atm... vlc says: "[0x1aeae18] main demux error: possibly corrupt module cache" mplayer says: "mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference" and kaffeine does nothing. At least Dragon player works [15:40] i like playing with dragons [15:42] FWIW: I filed bug 589194 [15:42] Launchpad bug 589194 in evince (Ubuntu) "Mavericks Evince doesn't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589194 [15:45] Apparently a packaging error: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=pdfdocument.evince-backend&mode=&suite=lucid&arch=any lucid apparently contains backends.. [15:45] the webthing is broken for maverick [16:45] hello, anyone know where can I find a cmdline silc client used to be in older version than lucid? [17:05] yo yo yo [17:05] maverik'd up and running flawlessly [17:06] ActionParsnip: You're late :þ [17:06] * arand is hypocritically using it just in a KVM though... [17:07] arand: when was the alpha released? [17:08] arand: accoding to the release schedule its today ;) [17:08] idk, but I'm just finishing the install of the second system in a vm here. [17:08] running both 64 and 32 in separate vm's [17:09] it's great though. I've yet to have any sort of stability issue. [17:09] Well, A1... [17:10] The toolchain is up way before... [17:14] shishire: Heh, well, try starting gwibber ;) [17:19] arand, I don't have stability issues with gwibber, it just doesn't start [17:19] something about unable to find listening port [17:21] shishire: soemthing with desktop-couch, I think, but you mean proper crashing then? No only components (metacity for a while) here and there, for me, gnomefreak had problems with X the other day though... [17:21] strangely enough, it appears to work fine when run as sudo [17:21] yeah [17:22] shishire: gwibber?? [17:22] yeah [17:24] shishire: That's news I think, do make a note on Bug #588478 please :) [17:24] Launchpad bug 588478 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) "RuntimeError: Can not find port of couchdb. " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588478 [17:24] will do [17:26] shishire: Yup, I'm seeing the same, strangely gksu doesn't work... [17:26] now that is weird === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Thanks to you all for testing Lucid and making it a great release | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | Alpha 1 Released! See http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha1 [17:30] ok, bug updated [17:33] shishire: Placed a comment there with regards to gksu as well [17:33] yeah [17:33] I'm looking into the gksu now [17:33] first thing I saw was that it's looking for a file in /root [17:34] So presumably something to do with privileges of applications accessing desktopcouch... Or so... [17:39] oh... that's got to be why... gksudo and sudo work differently. gksudo actually runs it as root, while sudo fakes root, keeping your env and such [17:40] It would be nice if "sudo" would detect when you're running an X application and warn you. =P [17:40] Maybe we'd finally get people to stop recommending "sudo " [17:45] arand, what do you get when you "gksudo -k gwibber" ? [17:46] Why would you do that? [17:46] because otherwise gksudo changes the env to root [17:47] What does -k do? [17:47] preserves environment [17:47] shishire: http://pastebin.com/ic0fuVdL [17:47] Srtill fail [17:47] yup [17:47] something's going on with dbus/couchdb/gwibber [17:48] Indeed... at least the priviledge finding is a hint. [17:48] yeah [18:01] I'm gonna see if changing the polkit-1 authorizations for binding to a network port allows gwibber to be run as user [19:14] why do i get »failed to fetch archive.ubuntu.com/….deb 404 not found [ip: 91.189.88.40 80]«? [19:14] but pinging that ip works === ripps_ is now known as ripps === pgraner is now known as pgraner-afk === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:11] knittl: tried updating the package cache? [20:12] yofel: yes, my command is sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [20:12] but it worked now. maybe issues with my ISP [20:13] or maybe the server messed up, well, as long as it works... [20:14] yup, nevermind [20:27] hm, again -.- [20:28] knittl: archive update in progress? Test other server? [20:28] guud evening [20:28] or wait another 10 minutes … [20:30] hey BUGabundo [20:30] alpha 1 is out, woohoo [20:32] yeah, and someone broke rt2860sta - no wifi on my netbook :( [20:32] oh, that sucks [20:32] I read! [20:32] I'll try an older mainline kernel later [20:34] and the brightness control is somewhat odd... It has 15 steps and it goes like: 15 ... 4 3 1 2 [20:35] lol [20:36] I blame nvidia, as it works fine in a tty [20:36] use nouveau [20:36] hm.... [20:36] well, why not [20:36] * yofel goes removing nvidia... [20:39] LOL [20:39] you are easy to persuade [20:39] didn't even had to use sudo make me a sandwich [20:40] XD [20:41] well, I wanted to try it anyway so it'll just happen a bit earlier [20:41] hum [20:41] not sure maverick or ppa are fine now [20:41] Sarvatt said yesterday that upload was on the way [20:41] and all broken [20:41] scourgeforge down? [20:42] ah, well, I'll find out in a minute [20:42] hmm, dependency problems and 5 broken packages :( [20:42] yofel, you'll have to restart [20:42] I know, brb [20:43] Preparing to replace mplayer 2:1.0~rc3+svn20091207-0ubuntu1~lucid~nvidiavdpauppa3 (using .../mplayer_2%3a1.0~rc3++final-0ubuntu2_i386.deb) ... [20:43] Unpacking replacement mplayer ... [20:43] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mplayer_2%3a1.0~rc3++final-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/mplayer', which is also in package mplayer-nogui 2:1.0~rc3+svn20091207-0ubuntu1~lucid~nvidiavdpauppa3 [20:43] dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [20:44] knittl, there's at least one open bug about that [20:44] bjsnider: ah ok [20:45] grml, removing /usr/bin/mplayer does not work [20:46] remove mplayer and mplayer-nogui [20:46] It was in the alpha1 release notes as well. [20:46] Pici: haven't seen it there [20:46] oh ok, but it was about ubuntu studio [20:47] bjsnider: how can i remove them when apt complains about broken dependencies? dpkg -r? [20:48] it might want to pull some other things out, but that's ok, just keep track of it and put them back in afterwards [20:48] no, it only removed mplayer [20:48] its broken [20:48] actually, all codecs are [20:48] breaking players with it [20:49] i think i'm going to try mplayer-git in the vdpau ppa from now on as it is very different from the svn version [20:49] you shouldn't have forced the upgrage [20:49] BUGabundo: i did aptitude safe-upgrade [20:49] it's "safe" ;) [20:49] and it broken mplayer? [20:49] its fine here [20:49] jep [20:50] gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is still kept back [20:50] $ apt-cache policy mplayer | pastebinit [20:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/444229/ [20:50] Installed: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20090426-1ubuntu16+medibuntu1 [20:50] i don't really need mplayer anyway [20:51] I want my players to work again :( [20:51] no movies for me in days [20:52] poor BUGabundo [20:53] back [20:53] took me a minute to remember that I forgot to delete my xorg.conf ^^ [20:54] so far so good [20:54] BUGabundo: dragon player works here (it's the only one that seems to work) [20:55] yofel: file a bug :) jokey should do that for you [20:55] BUGabundo: I didn't use jockey :P [20:55] you FAIL then [20:55] you know we should use it [20:56] cause its supposed to take care of stuff for us [20:56] well, first jockey failed as it didn't show any driver available when I wanted to install them, even after I refreshed the package cache [20:56] else I would have used it [20:56] It shows them now though [20:57] ok, brightness stepping is correct now, I'll try later if I can enable vt-d again [21:00] argh, the only thing I hate about KDE is that I just can't find a way to turn the bluetooth card off.. [21:00] This bug was fixed in the package ffmpeg-extra -4:0.6~svn20100505-1ubuntu4 [21:00] humm [21:00] not here :\ [21:00] what the hecl [21:01] * BUGabundo checks [21:02] No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "XVID". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. [21:02] bah [21:04] yep, mplayer gives me some libavformat.so.52 error, vlc errors out too, and kaffeine simply does nothing [21:04] works here … [21:04] wow [21:04] ppl starting gwibber with SUDO [21:04] * BUGabundo smacks arand [21:06] BUGabundo: It works, I have qcow snapshots of the machine, I couldn't care less if it messes up gwibber, since I never use it :D [21:06] qcow? [21:06] BUGabundo: qemu copy on write volume format v2 [21:07] BUGabundo: for kvm, id est [21:07] BUGabundo: "qemu-img -a goodsnap ./maverick.qcow2" and I'm done. [21:08] ehe [21:12] But maybe seemingly-advocating the insanity on a bug report might not have been the best idea, by the way, I got bored and made this: http://imagebin.org/99731 now just someone have to code the bit where it checks if you are launching a gui app with sudo... [21:12] haha [21:13] :D [21:13] knittl: what kind of black magic did you do? [21:13] BUGabundo: nothing [21:13] one could probably do some dirty hax to check if the binary is linked against x11 libraries, or against a library that links against x11 [21:13] but gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is held back [21:13] LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL arand [21:14] gstreamer0.10-plugins-good: Installed: 0.10.23-1ubuntu1 [21:14] you ? [21:14] how do i get that output? [21:15] aptitude show says 0.10.21-1ubuntu2 [21:15] apt-cache policy gstreamer0.10-plugins-good [21:15] apt-cache is YOUR friend [21:15] like apachectl -t is mine :) [21:15] a life saver [21:15] Installed: 0.10.21-1ubuntu2 [21:16] erkk [21:16] same as mine [21:16] so that's not it [21:16] no, your's is .23 [21:16] * yours [21:16] BUGabundo: do you have -bad installed? [21:17] BUGabundo: Surely apache2ctl ? [21:17] gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad: Installed: 0.10.18-2ubuntu1 [21:17] as I have a -good <-> -bad conflict here [21:18] yofel: yeah, me too [21:18] -good is held back, and wants to remove -bad with full-upgrade [21:19] exactly [21:20] jpds: correct :) autocomplete to the rescue [21:20] hum [21:20] \o/ [21:20] I don't recall forcing an upgrade [21:21] * gnomefreak doesnt suggest it either ;) [21:22] guess I could downgrade it [21:22] not easily [21:23] yes it is [21:23] I just use one of the gstreamer ppas [21:23] or lucid :) [21:25] I can't have a nice alt+tab animation in kwin with nouveau :( [21:26] and the minimise animation is SLOW [21:44] jpds: also an handy trick for web admins: chromium-browser --temp-profile Start with a new and temporary profile [21:44] or the old "chromiumdatadir="$(mktemp -d)";chromiumdiskcache="$(mktemp -d)";chromium-browser --user-data-dir=$chromiumdatadir --disk-cache-dir=$chromiumdiskcache" [22:34] i have a small problem...i don't have sound...and with "aplay -l" it says that i don't have a sound card... [22:36] and with, "alsamixergui", i have this error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory [22:42] Hi [22:49] o_portista17: is it muted ? [22:59] what's lucid netbook remix WM? [23:04] BUGabundo: mutter, clutter, stutter? [23:06] erk [23:06] no idea [23:06] user says he lost the top bar [23:07] is it possible to use update-manager -d to use maverick? [23:08]