[00:00] <phillw> ahh, you are trying to decrypt passwords, well, good luck. as mine are kinda like d%f4s5G6&mlm to begin with, it may be more difficult. An easy way to tighten against such attacks is changing something like "IWantToSeeAMovie" into "!W@ntT0See@M0v13", which should keep john the ripper busy ;-)
[00:19] <geirha> I let john the ripper run a couple of months on my system. Never found my password. :)
[01:13] <switchgirl> anyone want to woop me playing OpenArena?
[01:40] <maritza> My microphone does not work
[01:43] <maritza> I'm in ubuntu 9.10 I try to use my microphone in skype, but the oher person hear me but they cannot hear me
[01:44] <maritza> I try putting it in line in but it didn't work
[01:48] <maritza> Could somebody help me my microphone doesn't work do I have to download something to make it work
[01:53] <maritza> I'm in ubuntu 9.10 and cannot use my microphone
[01:53] <maritza> For example when I'm in Skype I can hear the other person talking to me but the other person cannot hear me
[01:57] <moonrock> Can anyone recommend a site, book, etc for learning Linux? I am quite computer literate (build my own, etc), but not real familiar with *nix. I like Ubuntu because the interface lets me get going easy, but I'd like to understand some of what's going on behind the scenes.
[01:58] <ZachK_> moonrock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <ZachK_> moonrock: wait...sorry it's https://help.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <ZachK_> it's a help site but it provides a lot of info on terminal commands, Gedit, python things like that
[01:59] <moonrock> ZachK_: Thanks. I'll poke around and see what I can learn there.
[02:00] <maritza> Can anyone help me find out why the sound in ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work
[02:02] <ZachK_> moonrock: no prob
[02:02] <ZachK_> maritza: speakers?
[02:08] <kermiac> moonrock: http://ubuntu-manual.org/ is also good for learning about Ubuntu
[02:08] <jimqode> maritza, are you on a laptop?
[02:09] <kermiac> np moonrock :)
[02:09] <jimqode> intel hd sound cards on some laptops (my dell has one) has a weird problem with skype
[02:09] <jimqode> it works if you plug in an external headphone
[02:19] <switchgirl> haya i want to up load a picture via a nautlus script any ideas where i can get a script from?
[02:20] <jimqode> switchgirl, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ is a good source
[02:21] <switchgirl> jimqode, hmm cant see anything about twitpic
[02:22] <jimqode> switchgirl, i didn't see anything about twitpic in your question either :) let me look around for a bit
[02:23] <jimqode> switchgirl, this seems to be  doing what you want: http://download.famouswhy.com/send_image_to_twitpic/
[02:23] <jimqode> switchgirl, although i never tried it
[02:38] <ZachK_> switchgirl: long time no see
[02:38]  * ZachK_ is going away
[02:38] <switchgirl> ja
[02:38] <switchgirl> :)
[02:38] <switchgirl> thanks jimqode
[02:38] <switchgirl> night
[02:52] <jimqode> I am trying to sync two videos running on two computers with some bash scripting. mplayer sometimes has a subsecond freeze when you seek to a distant location. Will a rt kernel fix that?
[02:53] <Chesamo> jimqode: That sounds like a uh... a network latency issue.
[02:55] <jimqode> Chesamo, even if only  i'm  playing a big file on a non-networked computer, if i seek back about 30 minutes it happens. so i doubt it is a network issue. i thought maybe it can be an IO issue
[02:56] <Chesamo> jimqode: Well, having a very, very slight delay could be for a variety of reasons. A realtime kernel is one possibility, yes. Another is that your system can't handle the exact calls mplayer uses very well.
[02:58] <jimqode> Chesamo, it seems to happen randomly in about %20 of times. I'm thinking of building a barebones system with rt kernel and mplayer running on bare X. Any other suggestions if it doesn't work?
[02:59] <Chesamo> jimqode: If that doesn't work, then I'm not sure what will. I mean, if it's a system issue then building to bare X whould solve it even if the realtime kernel doesn't.
[03:01] <jimqode> Chesamo, thank  you
[03:01] <Chesamo> Anytime, jimqode. You know where to find me.
[03:24] <moonrock> I am having problems getting compiz windows animation to work (fade, burn, etc). The desktop animations all work fine (desktop cube, scale, etc). I have an nvidia 8800GTS video card w/ the 'current' drivers installed. Does anyone have an idea of why this isn't working?
[03:25] <Chesamo> moonrock, you using the uh... compiz manager setting whatever-it's-called?
[03:30] <moonrock> yes
[03:31] <moonrock> compizconfig settings manager
[03:31] <Chesamo> Hm... Sadly I am not at my Ubuntu machine at the moment. Chill here for a while and someone'll come by and help you. Alternately, the forums are always a good place to go if you need help, moonrock
[03:32] <iceflatline> make sure to turn on the eye candy features - under destop options i think
[03:33] <jimqode> moonrock, could you define the problem more throughly?
[03:33] <kermiac> moonrock: in ccsm have you got both "Animations" & "Animations Add-On" ticked?
[03:34] <moonrock> 	kermiac - yes both are on
[03:35] <moonrock> jimquode - I have the extras on under appearance/visual effects. It seems to change when I mess with which effects are enabled w/ compiz, though (turning off wobbly windows seems to knock it back a notch)
[03:36] <moonrock> jimquode - I am just trying to enable animation on window open, close, etc. It's not working. Strangley, other animations do (desktop cube, etc).
[03:36] <collinp> I'll be in in just a second.
[03:38] <kermiac> moonrock: in the "Animations" option, have you adjusted the "Duration" or "Window Match" fields?
[03:38] <moonrock> no
[03:39] <moonrock> ah. I see how this works, now. I thought it default applied to all windows.
[03:41] <kermiac> moonrock: hmm... so it looks similar to http://imgbin.org/images/1762.png?
[03:41] <kermiac> moonrock: ah, yes - that's what I was getting to :)
[03:42] <moonrock> Yeah. I got it now. I thought I just needed to check an animation type on to have it work, and the duration/match were just if I wanted to customize. Thanks for the help.
[03:43] <kermiac> np moonrock, that's why we're here ;)
[04:24] <maritza> sorry that I didn't answer but
[04:25] <maritza> I wasn't in my laptop
[04:25] <Chesamo> ditto
[05:20] <torres09> hey guys just installed lucid gnome session fails in about 10s after logging ...now on failsafe gnomw..what to do..
[05:24] <torres09> hey guys just installed lucid gnome session fails in about 10s after logging ...now on failsafe gnomw..what to do..any ideas guys
[05:24] <Chesamo> Yes, torres09. We heard you. Can you give some more details, perhaps?
[05:24] <Chesamo> Maybe pastebin the result of dmesg -tail http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[05:25] <torres09> ok
[05:27] <torres09> Chesamo, is it dmesg -tail??
[05:27] <Chesamo> The command is dmesg -tail ... I think >_>
[05:27] <torres09> man dmesg
[05:28] <Chesamo> or um
[05:28] <Chesamo> sorry
[05:28] <Chesamo> dmesg |tail
[05:28] <torres09> Chesamo, thankd will do tht
[05:30] <Chesamo> wat
[05:31] <torres09> heres the link http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/443794/
[05:33] <Chesamo> Well, it's a good thing you did actually paste the whole dmesg.
[05:35] <torres09> Chesamo, so what do you suggest
[05:36] <Chesamo> torres09: X isn't my speciality, but hmmmm... let me think a minute
[05:37] <Chesamo> torres09: It's an Intel video chipset?
[05:38] <torres09> Chesamo, yes..so no proprietry drivers i guess? actually this is my friend's comp i had been happliy using ubuntu for sometime now without problmes in X...
[05:38] <Chesamo> torres09: Is it a laptop?
[05:39] <torres09> Chesamo, no a desktop some 3-4 years old maybe..
[05:39] <Chesamo> torres09: Ah, okay. I'd assumed by the chipset... but since it's an older machine that explains it,
[05:40] <torres09> Chesamo,  so what should i do..
[05:40] <Chesamo> torres09 Do you get an error message when GNOME fails? Or does it just dump you out to Terminal. Or just lock up?
[05:41] <torres09> Chesamo, the whole thing freezes...like when it hangs in windows ..no keyboard response ..mouse response..
[05:44] <Chesamo> torres09... so we don't know for sure it's GNOME, but since you're in failsafe that's a good bet... Hm. Let's see if reconfiguring X will do it. Run the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and reboot.
[05:46] <torres09> Chesamo, what should the output of terminal be on that
[05:46] <Chesamo> torres09: I honestly don't remember, and I'm not on Ubuntu to really find out. Sorry :-(
[05:47] <torres09> Chesamo, ok...will reboot and see...
[05:48] <Chesamo> torres09: I mean, that command can't *hurt*. It just resets X back to factory defaults.
[05:48] <torres09> Chesamo, Ok
[05:55] <jasper> is anyone familiar with HDMI /Nvidia and Ubuntu?
[05:56] <ZachK_> jasper: i'm not too familiar but i'll give it a go
[05:56] <jasper> ok well, he has a 9300 GE Nvidia card, and just installed ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[05:57] <jasper> When he's Installing off of the live disk, he has Image from the computer to the TV from the HDMI cable
[05:57] <jasper> when installing ubuntu from the disk**
[05:57] <jasper> But when ubuntu is installed and running off the HDD it doesnt register the moniter past the boot point
[05:58] <torres09> Chesamo, back on failsafe gnome now your command didnt work
[05:58] <Chesamo> bugger.
[05:58] <ZachK_> jasper: hmm
[05:58] <ZachK_> jasper: pc specs?
[05:59] <ZachK_> jasper: meaning laptop desktop manufacterer
[05:59] <torres09> Chesamo,  so anyway to fixup the X session
[06:00] <jasper> Desktop HP, M8530f---AMD Phenom x49550 Quad Core Processor--5120Mb ram--750Gb HDD Nvidia geforce 9300ge.
[06:01] <ZachK_> jasper: ok so Live CD will display on the monitor but a full install will not..I got that right?
[06:01] <jasper> Correct
[06:01] <ZachK_> ok give me a sec...
[06:01]  * ZachK_ pulls up a page
[06:01] <Chesamo> Hrm
[06:01] <ZachK_> welcome isaac_
[06:02] <isaac_> hi
[06:02] <isaac_> or 你好
[06:02] <kaushal> hi
[06:02] <Chesamo> Sorry, torres09, I'm not really the one to ask about that. Chill here a while and someone'll come on to help you. Alterately, the forums are always a viable option.
[06:02] <kaushal> Chesamo: hi
[06:02] <kaushal> Good Morning
[06:02] <isaac_> hi
[06:02] <Chesamo> Hello kaushal
[06:02] <ZachK_> hello kaushal
[06:02] <ZachK_> jasper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[06:03] <ZachK_> jasper: check that out while i look some more
[06:03] <kaushal> ZachK_: hi
[06:03] <torres09> Chesamo,  thanks anyway..
[06:03] <jasper> oh hey
[06:03] <jasper> real fast. . .
[06:03] <kaushal> Chesamo: I searched for <https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text="[drm%3Adrm_mode_getfb]+*ERROR*+invalid+framebuffer+id>
[06:03] <jasper> So im not sure why but i think ubuntu just broke lawls
[06:03] <jasper> lemme save that and reboot
[06:03] <kaushal> which is the specific bug number I am hit with
[06:04] <Chesamo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/523027
[06:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 523027 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "DRM Framebuffer crash; invalid framebuffer id; Thinkpads with Intel X4500HD (affects: 13) (heat: 103)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[06:04] <jasper> im gonna get him in here in just a minute so he can talk to you while i sort my problems out.
[06:04] <kaushal> for my Display controller
[06:04] <ZachK_> jasper: ok
[06:05] <kaushal> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[06:05] <jasper> lol, sorry, its just i cant open any web browsers or anything for some reason.
[06:05] <jasper> says it cant find . .anythign
[06:05] <kaushal> Chesamo: sure
[06:05] <isaac_> Does anyone use a python book written for ubuntu users? I'm interested in one, but I'm a beginner.
[06:05] <ZachK_> isaac_: interested in what specifically
[06:05] <isaac_> book
[06:06] <Chesamo> ZachK_, isaac_:I assume he means a book to learn python.
[06:06] <isaac_> yes!
[06:06] <isaac_> :)
[06:06] <kaushal> Chesamo: is there a good tutorial to learn Ubuntu Desktop and Server ?
[06:06] <Chesamo> isaac_, Python is a relatively platform-independent language... pick up any Linux-based Python book and you should be good to go
[06:07] <isaac_> oh ok then
[06:07] <isaac_> thaks
[06:07] <hobgoblin> isaac_: you can look at this online - http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python
[06:07] <ZachK_> isaac_: http://www.python.org/
[06:07] <Chesamo> kaushal: Tutorial? I don't know. But here's a good start: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[06:07] <torres09> guys has anyone had problems with gnome session due to intel chipset drivers..
[06:07] <isaac_> hey thanks == ZachK_
[06:08] <ZachK_> isaac_: no prob :D
[06:09] <Chesamo> torres09: you might find this of interest. kashual had a similar problem. (See the LaunchPad link above, I don't want to trigger ubot again).
[06:09] <jasper> is there anyway to "Refresh" or "Reload my desktop?
[06:11] <torres09> kaushal, can u post the link of your launchpad bug relating intel chipset..
[06:15] <torres09> kaushal, can u post the link of your launchpad bug relating intel chipset.. have pblm with intel chipset i guess
[06:15] <kaushal> sure
[06:15] <kaushal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/523027
[06:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 523027 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "DRM Framebuffer crash; invalid framebuffer id; Thinkpads with Intel X4500HD (affects: 13) (heat: 82)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[06:17] <torres09> kaushal,  so how did you solve it
[06:17] <kaushal> I have not done anything
[06:18] <kaushal> torres09: Chesamo suggested me to subscribe to the bug and update my issue there
[06:18] <torres09> kaushal, thanks so what pblme do you have
[06:19] <kaushal> torres09: please see my comments #12
[06:31]  * kaushal back after reboot
[07:22] <Nuetron> Hello, I am a total newbie and have upgraded my acer netbook to 9.10 but after reboot I noticed that it still says 9.04 and I've lost sound and the touchpad, does anyone have a step by step guide on how to fix these problems?
[07:23] <Nuetron> Or somewhere I can go? Thanks
[07:23] <collinp> Hmm
[07:24] <collinp> That sounds like a possible incomplete upgrade.
[07:25] <Nuetron> It completed the upgrade and if I recall it said it was successful.
[07:25] <collinp> hmm
[07:25] <collinp> ZachK_: Ping.
[07:26] <collinp> duanedesign: Ping.
[07:28] <collinp> Akos: Ping. :P
[07:28] <Akos> collinp: Pong. :P
[07:28] <collinp> Akos: Could you help Nuetron with their problem?
[07:28] <collinp> I'm about to doze off sitting here.
[07:28] <Akos> i'm having my breakfast :\
[07:29] <Nuetron> when i was hunting around for an answer I got various places saying that there was a "grub" update and something to do with "menu.lst" but the language they used was beyond me and I couldnt work out what they did to fix it.
[07:29] <collinp> Hrm. I knew you was awake, but I didn't know what time it was where you live.
[07:29] <Akos> 8:30 AM
[07:29] <Akos> be right back (:
[07:29] <collinp> kk
[07:30] <Nuetron> theres no rush I'm at work and my laptop is at home, thanks.
[07:31] <ddecator> Nuetron: not likely a grub issue since you can login. i'd suggest checking to make sure there aren't further updates by using the update manager or running 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' just in case something was missed
[07:31] <ddecator> Nuetron: also might help to go to System > Administration > Software Sources and make sure there aren't any PPAs pointing to jaunty instead of karmic (if you use any)
[07:31] <Nuetron> Yes I checked the update manager and clicked the check box just incase but there was nothing new.
[07:32] <Nuetron> Whats a PPA?
[07:32] <ddecator> Personal Package Archive, it allows users to install software not included in the official repos and still receive updates
[07:32] <ddecator> where does it say that you are using 9.04?
[07:35] <Nuetron> Thanks for the PPA info, 9.04 is after turning it on and the black screen with white lettering where it says 9.04 and 9.04 recovery mode and two other options and at the bottom it says something to the effect of choose one of the above or the highlighted one will automatically login?
[07:36] <hobgoblin> the boot menu?
[07:36] <ddecator> ah, that's grub
[07:37] <hobgoblin> I'd pastebin your grub.cfg  - do cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com put a name and hit paste - give the new  url here
[07:38] <ddecator> except the laptop is at home, haha
[07:38] <ddecator> Nuetron: when you can use the laptop, that'd be a good way to help us help you :)
[07:39] <hobgoblin> aaah - I was not aware of that ...
[07:39] <hobgoblin> I'd also check lsb_release -a
[07:42] <Nuetron> Ok thanks ddecator and hobgoblin, I'll try again when I have my laptop with me, I'll have a look at the PPA's too. Thanks.
[07:45] <kermiac> Nuetron: That def. sounds like grub.cfg not being updated properly. I remember hitting that bug a while ago. See http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-910.html
[07:48] <Nuetron> kermiac, thanks for the link, I'll check out the info given when I get home. Thanks.
[07:48] <kermiac> np Nuetron :)
[09:01] <ZachK_> hello team
[10:48] <ZachK_> hello all
[10:48]  * ZachK_ is here if anybody needs help
[11:34] <ZachK_> heya smeag0l
[11:44] <ZachK_> hello phillw
[11:44] <phillw> hi ZachK_ please ignore my popping in and out, I'm just updating ubuntu with the proposed stuff for 10.04.1 :-)
[11:45] <ZachK_> ah cool
[11:45]  * ZachK_ is gonna dual boot soon
[11:45] <phillw> later today I'm putting the Mangy Moose alpha1 on, testing time already ;-)
[11:47] <ZachK_> cool
[15:29] <bobo123> should I have the option uhelper=udisks when I mount a paritition in /etc/fstab ?
[15:30] <bobo123> there is no info on uhelper in man mount, but in man umount it says "The uhelper (unprivileged umount helper) is possible to used when non-root  user  wants  to  umount  a mountpoint which is not defined in the /etc/fstab file (e.g devices mounted by HAL)" but I don't understand what that means
[15:32] <bobo123> if I just write "mount" at the command line the  uhelper=udisks  is there for the fat32 disks, but should I write it when I write a line in /etc/fstab allso?
[15:35] <paultag> bobo123, humm?
[15:36] <bobo123> humm.....
[15:36] <paultag> bobo123, is uhelper is for unpiv unmounting. If it's in the fstab it's required for boot and run
[15:36] <paultag> bobo123, don't put it in the fsab if you will unmount it ( or ever run without it )
[15:37] <bobo123> ok. I skip the uhelper=udisks then. (and I wouldn't want to unmount that partition anyway)
[15:37] <paultag> :)
[17:07] <jasper> Does anyone know about downloading and installing World of Warcraft on 10.04 LTS?
[17:07] <paultag> jasper, yeah, one guy did it a while back
[17:07] <paultag> jasper, apparently it works flawlessly
[17:08] <jasper> yeah i cant find crap about it haha.
[17:08] <paultag> haha
[17:08] <paultag> jasper, install it via WINE
[17:08] <jasper> I have like 5 80's but since i went to ubuntu i have not played
[17:08] <jasper> I was trying but wine is new to me
[17:08] <jasper> it said its not a .exe but it is haha.
[17:08] <paultag> heh
[17:08] <paultag> jasper, put in the CD and run the autoplayer with wine
[17:08] <Chesamo> in Terminal, do "wine start <name of executable>
[17:08] <Chesamo> "
[17:11] <jasper> holy hell its installing
[17:11] <paultag> jasper, :)
[17:12] <jasper> see im just worried about it installing in the 50g area and not the 400g area
[17:13] <jasper> i have no idea where wine puts the C://
[17:13] <pedro3005> on your /home
[17:13] <paultag> jasper, ~/.wine/drive_c/
[17:14] <jasper> but is that located in the system files or on your hard drive area
[17:14] <bobo123> I suppose it would be possible to install wow elsewhere than in the fake-c: too
[17:14] <bobo123> (you do know that world of warcraft is a drug btw?)
[17:14] <paultag> jasper, C:\ in in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[17:14] <jasper> yeah i have 5 level 80's haha
[17:14] <paultag> jasper, so you have: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[17:15] <jasper> yeah but the ~/ isnt that my install area?
[17:15] <paultag> jasper, ~ is /home/jasper/
[17:15] <Chesamo> ......
[17:15] <paultag> jasper, if your username is jasper
[17:15] <jasper> ah ok so it installs in the area i want it to
[17:15] <Chesamo> jasper: what do you mean by "system files" and "hard drive" area?
[17:16] <jasper> I partitioned 50gs for the actual ubuntu and its files
[17:16] <paultag> jasper, not really. It installs to /home/jasper/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/
[17:16] <jasper> and 400 for my hard drive
[17:16] <jasper> yeah and /home/jasper is where i want it :D
[17:16] <Chesamo> jasper: reword that. It's all your hard drive.
[17:16] <jasper> As in
[17:16] <jasper> hold on
[17:16] <Chesamo> jasper: you mean your /home partition.
[17:16] <paultag> +1 Chesamo
[17:16] <Chesamo> jasper: you partitioned 50gb for /, then 400 for /home
[17:17] <jasper> correct
[17:17] <jasper> gimme a break im new to ubuntu T.T
[17:17] <Chesamo> jasper: There ya go ;-P Don't worry, we were all there once
[17:17] <jasper> lol
[17:17] <paultag> jasper, it's all cool
[17:17] <jasper> im just hoping i can install all this and actually login. its been months
[17:18] <pedro3005> I used to play WoW here, it works
[17:31] <bobo123> is it possible to set ctrl-Esc as keyboard shortcut for the program menu (like in windows) ?
[17:33] <Francis> hello
[17:33] <Guest98637> can someone please help me with my web browser
[17:34] <Francis1> it always "Not responding" then im gonna have to restart my computer so I can open it again
[17:34] <Francis1> :(
[17:34] <Chesamo> Francis1: Which browser?
[17:34] <Francis1> Mozilla Firefox
[17:34] <Francis1> hello again chesamo :)
[17:35] <Chesamo> Hello, Francis1
[17:35] <Francis1> this stopped happening when this guy helped me to block flash?
[17:35] <Francis1> coz he said that flash and java aren't compatible with ea other?
[17:35] <Chesamo> Francis1: Uhhhh... whoever told you that doesn't understand what Flash and Java are :P
[17:35] <Francis1> but I guess it's not working anymore
[17:36] <Francis1> well, i guess i misunderstood
[17:36] <Francis1> :P
[17:36] <Chesamo> Francis1: Have you tried deleting ~/.mozilla? It'll delete your settings and reset Firefox back to factory defaults.
[17:36] <Francis1> no, I haven't
[17:36] <Chesamo> Francis1: That's always my first suggestion.
[17:36] <Francis1> should I do that?
[17:36] <Francis1> how to do that tho
[17:36] <Francis1> lol
[17:37] <Chesamo> Francis1: Open Terminal and enter "rm -r .mozilla/"
[17:37] <Francis1> alright hold on
[17:38] <Francis1> it says: cannot remove `.mozilla': No such file or directory
[17:38] <Francis1> =-O
[17:38] <Chesamo> Pastebin the output of "ls -a" please
[17:39] <Chesamo> Because I thought that's what it was :/
[17:40] <bobo123> yes firefox settings should be in .mozilla/firefox/something.default/
[17:41] <bobo123> ctrl-Esc seems not to be a possible shortcut key even though it accepts it in the keyboard shortcuts dialogbox :-(
[18:29] <torres09> hey guys just installed lucid gnome session fails everytime I log in pasted the log file here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/443794/ ...someone suggested the problem migth be with the intel chipset driver any ideas
[19:24] <torres09> guys anybody using intel 8x chipsets and ubuntu 10 here? cannot get the gnome sessin running
[19:40] <stevek> can anyone plz explain wut is the difference between 2.6.32-22-generic and 2.6.33.4-1 kernel
[19:40] <Chesamo> stevek: The changelist?
[19:41] <stevek> if some problem relate to hardware is resolved in 2.6.32-22 , isnt it also resolved in 2.6.33.4??
[19:41] <Chesamo> stevek: Not necessarily, you can sometimes get what are known as "regressions".
[19:41] <stevek> i had to turn acpi=off in ubuntu 9.10 but with the latest lucd kernel , i can boot withought acp=off
[19:42] <Chesamo> stevek: It's where some code was held back or altered in some way that caused a bug to flare up again
[19:42] <phillw> is there a way to alter the uname of an installtion?
[19:43] <Chesamo> phillw: I'm not quite sure what you mean... uname is just a program that prints the system information
[19:43] <phillw> it is the sys info I need to change, I made a typo with the system name
[19:43] <Chesamo> phillw: You mean the hostname?
[19:43] <phillw> yes
[19:44] <phillw> phillw@piglet-meekat:~  (spot the spelling mistake) ;-)
[19:44] <Chesamo> phillw: do you prefer text editing in Terminal or gedit?
[19:45] <Chesamo> phillw and by "terminal" I mean nano or vi
[19:45] <phillw> gksudo gedit is the one i tend to use, but am okay with nano
[19:46] <Chesamo> phillw: gksudo gedit /etc/hostname :: make the change in this file
[19:46] <Chesamo> phillw: then run sudo /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start
[19:47] <phillw> sudo: /etc/init.d/hostname.sh: command not found
[19:48] <Chesamo> phillw: Really? Odd. Debian operates this way... let me see something
[19:48] <phillw> i've found it
[19:50] <phillw> sudo hostname piglet-meerkat
[19:50] <Chesamo> phillw: Oh, sorry. Edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[19:50] <Chesamo> phillw: That's just a temporary change, afaik
[19:50] <Chesamo> phillw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774029
[19:51] <phillw> both files changes, thanks.
[19:51] <phillw> /s/changes/changed
[19:51] <Chesamo> phillw: No problem :P
[19:52] <phillw> grr @ dyslexic fingers :-D
[19:52] <phillw> btw, meerkat alpha is looking good :-)
[19:53] <Guest74674> Chesamo: you still there mate?
[19:53] <Chesamo> Ohai Francis1
[19:54] <Francis1> Chesamo: Im sorry about earlier coz my internet went off
[19:54] <Francis1> ok this is my problem..
[19:54] <Francis1> how come that everytime I open youtube, songs don't have sounds
[19:54] <Francis1> and the loading will stop at 2-3 seconds
[19:54] <Francis1> :X
[19:54] <Chesamo> Francis1: Is there sound elsewhere in your system?
[19:55] <Francis1> what do you mean
[19:55] <Francis1> i think it's because of flash :s
[19:56] <Chesamo> Francis1: Do you have working sound in other places, not just Flash
[19:56] <phillw> Francis1: this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9139767&postcount=4  (lovinglinux is rather good with ffox support)
[19:56] <Francis1> ok let me try
[19:57] <Francis1> Chesamo: I have no clue lol
[19:57] <Francis1> phillw: I can't see an ALSA here :o
[19:57] <Chesamo> Francis1: Well don't jump to blame Flash, then. Find out if it's a systemwide problem.
[19:58] <Francis1> Chesamo: but when i blocked flash, my sounds were working
[19:58] <Francis1> :x
[19:58] <Francis1> but i think my flash at the moment is unblocked again
[19:59] <Francis1> i dont know wht the hell is wrong w/ my system..
[19:59] <Francis1> there's always been a problem w/ this
[20:00]  * Chesamo coughs. She has not Voice to trigger the bot, but would like to remind Francis1 to watch his language please.
[20:00] <Francis1> I'm sorry
[20:00] <Francis1> i was just frustrated :(
[20:00] <Chesamo> Francis1 let me think a moment
[20:00] <Francis1> ok sir
[20:00] <phillw> Francis1: you may have conflicting flash plug-ins, it's not at all uncommon. head over to http://firefox-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/05/flash-optimization.html and ensure you do not have more than one plugin loaded
[20:01] <Chesamo> phillw +1
[20:01] <Chesamo> Francis1 Firefox usage isn't my forte, since I don't use it :X
[20:01]  * phillw has been there, had the headache :-D
[20:02] <Francis1> Im really confused
[20:02] <Francis1> >.<
[20:03] <Francis1> Chesamo: Even in epiphany browser (if you know that browser), youtube or sounds isn't working as well
[20:03] <phillw> Francis1: follow the instructions on the link I posted
[20:03] <phillw> then, you may well have more than one type of flash installed - that will cause all sorts of horrors on your system
[20:04] <Francis1> ok
[20:04] <Francis1> i installed flashblock (again)
[20:04] <phillw> that posting will ensure you only have one of them running, so do not worry about it reporting back 'not found' when you are deleting the suspects. the aim is to end up with just the one installed :-)
[20:05] <Francis1> now i have sounds again i think
[20:05] <Francis1> hold on
[20:05] <Francis1> :)
[20:06] <Francis1> now ihave sounds again that I blocked flash
[20:06] <Francis1> phillw: Thanks alot
[20:10] <phillw> i have a new installation for meerkat for testing, I'm just going through that thread now - it's one of the first things I do on a new installation. It just saves *so* many headaches :-)
[20:15] <Francis1> =]
[20:15] <Francis1> ciao
[21:42] <sugnA> hi
[21:42] <sugnA> fairly simple question (I hope)
[21:42] <sugnA> is there a way to work out my ip on the local network?
[21:42] <sugnA> thanks in advance
[21:43] <Appl6> sugnA: ifconfig
[21:45] <sugnA> thanks
[21:45] <sugnA> couple of quick questions again
[21:45] <sugnA> what does it mean by the broadcast address
[21:45] <sugnA> and the mask?
[21:50] <sugnA> oops, i could have looked those ones up
[21:50] <sugnA> thanks a lot
[23:49] <ZachK_> hello dtwrites
[23:52] <dtwrites> Hey Zachk
[23:56] <ZachK_> dtwrites: and what brings you here?
[23:58] <dtwrites> I had to "un-upgrade" my computer from 10.4 to 9.10 and lost my back-up so I drop in from time to time with "beginner questions."
[23:59] <ZachK_> ah well welcome
[23:59] <pedro3005> downgrade
[23:59] <ZachK_> you should join the team...
[23:59] <dtwrites> For instance, know how to find my back-up drive on a USB port?
[23:59] <pedro3005> it's not in Places?